note to self:
Se-dom: Pa Ru
Ne-dom: Ca
Te-dom: Me
Fe-dom: No
Ni-dom: He Sa Pa Ad
Si-dom: Mo
Ti-dom: He
Fi-dom: ?

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note to self:
Se-dom: Pa Ru
Ne-dom: Ca
Te-dom: Me
Fe-dom: No
Ni-dom: He Sa Pa Ad
Si-dom: Mo
Ti-dom: He
Fi-dom: ?
I have realized that I always talk a lot, and that I then talk factually about the world, and point things out in my actions and in the surroundings to the people I’m with, and I’ve come to realize it can be characterized as such:
I look at the world and myself (Se) and conceptualize it by putting it into words (Ni) because I want (Fi) us all (tribe) to function smoothly together in the external world (Te). In this, the stacking is also relevant, because I am sensitive and blind to my own wishes (Fi) and see them as universal truths (Te/Ni interpretation of Fi), and I am playful in how I interact with and what I spot in the world (tert Se) and a bit more serious but still not too invested in how I conceptualize the world (aux Ni). In general I use the Ni-Se dynamic more freely and accurately and can be quite humorous in those aspects, while the Te-Fi dynamic is a lot more strained, because of Fi being inferior; I take the smoothness of interaction with the world, as a group, quite serious and am easily angered about things relating to it, and am very sensitive about emotional display and am self conscious and embarrassed by my emotional needs.
My mental color-representations of the functions.
You mentioned once about knowing people among all the types. Among those individuals, what did each type give or teach you in terms of your self-development?
These are based on the individuals involved and not to be generalized. Also, what you take away from others depends on your type and what you need to learn as an individual.
ISTJ: how to be toughISFJ: how to be a faithful friend INTJ: how to handle feedbackINFJ: how to mentor peopleISFP: how to be politically activeINFP: how to be more playfulISTP: how to let go of the past INTP: how to find useful infoESTP: how to take a chanceESFP: how to live life with passion ENTP: how to laugh moreENFP: how to avoid jealousy/envyESTJ: how to suck it up and get it doneENTJ: how to be lazy and efficientESFJ: how to be more affectionateENFJ: how to be more generous
NTs: *finally opening up to someone*:
friend: *excited* OMG YOU HAVE FEELINGS!!
NTs:
friend: ..well,you do have other emotions
NTs:
friend: *frustrated* At LEAST accept you HAVE feelin-
NTs:
No shade, I and E are both loved
MBTI Deviant Roles
1. The De-Individualizers (SJ)
ESTJ: The Fascist
ISTJ: The Hall Monitor
ESFJ: The Earth S-mother-er
ISFJ: The Mob Enforcer
2. The Selfish Thrill Seekers (SP)
ESTP: The Con Artist
ISTP: The Contract Killer
ESFP: The Narcissist
ISFP: The Tortured Artist
3. The High-Functioning Sociopaths (NT)
ENTJ: The Dominatrix
INTJ: The Supervillian
ENTP: The Mad Scientist
INTP: The 40-Year-Old Virgin
4. The Self-Righteous Do-Gooders (NF)
ENFJ: The Cult Leader
INFJ: The Svengali
ENFP: The Bomb Thrower
INFP: The Martyr
I'm an ENTJ. I have a really hard time making friends, even though I don't have a hard time connecting with people. At social gatherings I have no trouble talking to new people, and people seem to enjoy talking to me, or at least they don't seem bothered or burdened. But I never make any contact that lasts for longer than the event. I think I might be lacking when it comes to being personal when I talk to people, I probably come off as guarded. Occasionally I get more personal, especially (1/2)
[con’t: when not sober, but that doesn’t seem to have any effect on the relationship, it seems I just can’t make people interested in my company in the long term. I’m more relaxed and get a more genuine connection with strangers I have sex with than with recurring people at social gatherings. I think I’m very much stuck in the EJ problem of public/private persona. How do I break this pattern? I really want to make friends, to hang out with and do fun activities with, but I don’t seem to know how to.]
There are several possible reasons why entjs have difficulty developing deeper relationships: 1) Oversimplistic Te: They approach relationships too instrumentally or functionally, sort of like a business transaction, so if a person is not defined as “useful”, the relationship is likely to be seen as “useless” which decreases the motivation to maintain it. The remedy would be to realize that there’s much more to relationships than what services can be rendered/exchanged. Te is not only about functionality, efficiency, or results, it is also about developing a sense of responsibility. When you feel personally responsible for contributing to the well-being of other people, you’ll be motivated to go the extra mile in relationships and thus make greater strides because you’re not just in it for yourself. Unhealthy Te is even worse, of course, because such individuals perceive socializing in terms of power differentials and they treat relationships as zero-sum games of survival of the strongest or who can dominate whom.
2) Overindulging Ni: It is common for NJs to have a problem with wanting “meaningful” relationship but they never define what “meaningful” is and thus spend their time either not knowing what they’re looking for and/or carrying around very narrow and unrealistic beliefs about what is considered “meaningful”. The remedy to this is to clarify what exactly it is you’re seeking that would make relationships more satisfying for you, at least satisfying enough for you to want to invest time and energy into them. Reflect on your standards for defining what a “good”, “close”, “intimate” relationship is and whether your criteria are realistic, reasonable, and fair. When you have clear criteria to guide your judgment, you can set a proper goal and achieve it.
3) Unhealthy Se: NJs tend to have a poor or dysfunctional relationship to the body and this can affect relationships because physical intimacy is an important aspect of many relationships. They might have difficulty reconciling the disconnect between physical and emotional intimacy. They might conflate physical intimacy with emotional intimacy because physical intimacy is something that they perceive as a “vulnerability”. The remedy to this is to develop a better relationship to your physicality so that it is not a barrier and/or used as a crutch into emotional intimacy. In other words, if you can only achieve “genuineness” via sex, then you’re using sex as a crutch instead of solving the actual problem of emotional unavailability.
4) Underdeveloped Fi: This is where most problems tend to stem from because the F functions are the ones that are ideally suited to handling relationships, so an unhealthy F function is always a barrier. You can be a very morally principled person, as many entjs I’ve met admirably are, but if you are incapable of emotional investment, then there is no “glue” to bond you with others. Unhealthy or dysfunctional relationship to feeling life is a big problem for anyone of any type. When you’re not in touch with your feelings, your sense of values, and your emotional vulnerabilities, you can’t develop relationships very well because you won’t have enough cognitive empathy motivating your actions, you won’t have a sufficiently sensitive attitude towards others’ experiences, and you won’t be willing to show who you really are to others (e.g. due to the irrational fear of being exploited, losing a position of power, and/or being judged as weak).
If you suffer from the public/private divide, then you have to reflect on why that divide exists, and what benefits it brings you, but also what it COSTS you. If you understand that the divide is not always a good thing and not always necessary and is often a barrier, then you should feel motivated to dismantle it and stop relying on it. Reflect on how you can be more authentic when you relate to others, how you can show more of yourself to others, how you can show your care more visibly to others. You can’t “make” someone like/love you, but you can show them that you care about them through your words and actions, then they’ll feel more cared for and hopefully be more willing to reciprocate in kind. Deep relationships are built on giving trust and compassion, sharing authentically with each other, and the willingness to be a witness for each other’s lives - do you put out this investment of emotional commitment and do others feel your investment enough to commit to you in return? Deep relationships take time and energy to nurture, they don’t “just happen” under normal circumstances, you have to take the initiative to spend time with people and show an interest in what goes on with them. Many entjs don’t want to put out that time and energy because they care about other things more (e.g. many are workaholics), so do you have your priorities in order, is it possible for you to make the time for all the important things, or would you rather live your life in extremes? These are decisions you should make consciously with much reflection.
5) Regardless of type, ego development is also an important consideration because, if you’re too egocentric to genuinely care about someone other than yourself (i.e. you cannot see each individual as a fully separate entity that is deserving of care/consideration for their own sake, apart from you), you’ll find it hard to develop relationships because you don’t see others as being anything except tools for your use/gratification. No one likes to be treated merely as an object, so ask yourself whether you often end up seeing and treating people that way, and reflect on how you can make people feel more special (which will encourage them to enjoy your company).
I'm an INFJ a who really struggle at expressing myself verbally. sometimes I can become too aware of my talking it really feel frustrating because I grew up not having friends which is why I think I'm lack social skills. or do all INFJ find it difficult to express themselves to a certain degree
Refer to the Type Development guide for how to develop functions.I’m going to address all the functions since anyone can have communication issues. Possible function-related communication problems:
When Si is underdeveloped, you might have difficulty seeing situations outside the context of your past experiences. You are likely to compare/contrast things in such a way that has little relevance/significance to others during conversation, perhaps unable to appreciate their contributions because you are too busy thinking back on your own experiences or figuring out what to think/feel about something new to you. This can lead to the other person feeling bored or unable to connect when they cannot relive/experience alongside you whatever it is you are mentally comparing.
When Ni is underdeveloped, your mind is messy and you only have a very vague idea of what you want to express, which means you might have difficulty grasping/explaining the essential points of the conversation or often get left behind as conversations move along without you. You are likely to stop and start, pause or question when you don’t understand, twist and turn during conversation, or wrongly assume that others already understand your point. This can lead to confusion or impatience in the other person because they cannot easily follow your convoluted thought process.
When Ti is underdeveloped, you might have difficulty independently organizing and systematizing your ideas into a coherent logical framework, unable to express your ideas with clarity, unable to summarize your thoughts well, unable to correctly calculate the full effect of the things you say. You might not catch the logical contradictions in your statements nor understand how self-centered or amoral your judgments sound to others. This can lead to statements/behavior that put the other person off in some way because you have not considered their perspective nor helped them to understand your reasoning.
When Fi is underdeveloped, you tend to personalize everything through your own feelings even when something is not related to you, perhaps unable to talk about things you don’t have any feelings about or unable to show any interest in things you can’t relate to. You might not realize that what you are talking about is of little interest to others even though you feel very strongly about it, unable to translate your interest into something the other person can relate to. This can lead to the other person feeling neglected or unseen, as though you’re just talking to yourself.Â
When Se is underdeveloped, you might have difficulty tapping into the flow of energy in the conversation, unable to react quickly and improvise well. You are likely to be rather oblivious and then fail to respond to changes in demeanor/behavior in the other person, likely to be too focused on what you want to say next instead of being present and listening carefully. This can lead to stilted, disconnected, or awkward communication when you keep talking past each other.
When Ne is underdeveloped, you might ramble or spout ideas/questions without actually adding anything new or valuable to the conversation. You might find it difficult to successfully riff off others, perhaps more likely to impede rather than facilitate the flow of conversational energy, unable to explain to others why your ideas might build upon what has already been said. This can lead to the other person feeling puzzled or disrupted as they struggle to see anything useful or significant in your seemingly random contributions.
When Te is underdeveloped, you might be too absolute or presumptuous because you believe your opinions are fully justified and objective, perhaps unconsciously driven to correct/criticize people whenever you feel insecure or unsure. You might find it difficult to understand when/why people might react poorly to your statements, unable to connect with others on an authentic and personal level because you are too busy judging them. This can lead to the other person feeling misjudged, unappreciated, or wanting to distance themselves.
When Fe is underdeveloped, you might have trouble getting an accurate read on other people’s emotions, perhaps even as you keep behaving as though you can. You are likely too self-conscious or unconsciously fear rejection/conflict, only caring about how others make you feel instead of responding appropriately to how they feel. This can lead to the other person feeling misunderstood or intruded upon because you just reflexively/defensively react to them as opposed to formulating a measured and empathetic response.
When meeting a person for the first time, what does each function look for to decide if they like the person?
Keep in mind that people do not only use one function.
Si: similar or familiar interests/traits/qualities/experiencesNi: willingness to question/examine the meaning of things/lifeTi: willingness to explore and analyze personal interests Fi: feeling unconditionally accepted, validated, understoodSe: passion for sharing (new) activities or aesthetic experiencesNe: willingness to pursue new ideas/possibilities/improvementTe: similar goals, aspirations, ambitions, or perspective on lifeFe: willingness to share and deepen intimate connection
Note to Self
Little reminders for when you are overindulging a function:
Se: you don’t have to react to everything that happens Ne: not everything you imagine is worth the attention Te: not everything you see as a “problem” is a problem Fe: not everything someone does has something to do with you Si: what you think you know is not all there is to know Ni: believing something is true does not make it true Ti: if it only makes sense to you then you’ve got a problem Fi: what you feel does not always tell you what is real
me, an extrovert, to my introvert friend: hey what’s the label on this bottle of vodka say i don’t know how to read xD my introvert friend: will you shut up! i’m trying to astral project into the library
~in which mod fulia returns to her trashy mbti roots~
INxJ: Wow things are going good. Everything is fine and I’m having a great time. Ni: =) INxJ: oh no Ni: =) INxJ: just let me have this Ni: let’s think about how this moment will eventually end. While we’re at it, let’s find reasons why this moment isn’t good enough INxJ: why must you do this
elaborate on subjective logic? like vs objective logic Te. if logic can be subjective doesn't everyone have subjective logic?
This is something I talk about here, but I’ll elaborate since that was written a while ago and now I have further thoughts on the matter. o3o
All that “subjective” means is that it relies on the subject. So, putting that into the context of cognitive functions: Te relies on external information. Ti relies on internal information.
One way I like to distinguish the two is by contrasting the definitions of material logic (Te) vs formal logic (Ti).
Material logic is concerned with the content of argumentation. It deals with the truth of the terms and the propositions in an argument.
Formal logic is interested in the form or structure of reasoning. The truth of an argument is of only secondary consideration in this branch of logic. Formal logic is concerned with the method of deriving one truth from another.
In other words: Material logic/Te is focused on logical truth. It sees the “big picture” outside of the problem and sees how it relates to the problem. Formal logic/Ti is focused on logical validity. It sees the problem itself and sees how the individual parts relate to each other. Te is broad and thus more accurate, while Ti is narrow and thus more in-depth.
Even so, the best way to understand functions is through the dynamics of cognitive axes. It’s easiest to understand the subjective nature of Ti through its relation to Fe. Ti determines what it believes to be true based on its evaluation of the situation, with the intent to isolate what “makes sense” from what “doesn’t make sense.” But because of Ti’s narrow, penetrating nature, we now have a big gaping blind spot where the external variables of reality exist. Something needs to come in and tether Ti to earth… to something measurable and outside itself. External information has to be considered in order to cover for that external blind spot that was created with pure Ti. And so Fe exists. Fe looks outside itself to understand what it should value. It takes Ti’s analysis of static elements and determines whether or not it holds up against external values. (Keep in mind that this is from the perspective of a TP. FJs usually rely on Fe before Ti, so their process will be slightly difference. But the push-and-pull dynamic remains the same.)
Meanwhile, Te just… doesn’t have that same problem that Ti has. Te is already covered in terms of external information, since that’s what it focuses on when making judgments. Te references external reality in order to find truth, therefore giving it an immediate accurate sense of the external variables that make up a situation. This focus on external logic creates a blind spot where internal analysis of value should exist. Fi is needed to fill that gap. When Te makes a judgment about the undeniable truth of something, Fi looks inside the subject in order to determine if that truth resonates with what it personally values. It balances pure Te’s focus on external logical elements with an analysis of the situation from the perspective of its own criteria of good vs bad.
if logic can be subjective doesn’t everyone have subjective logic?
If we consider that the T functions evaluate what is true vs what is false, then no, not if we’re talking solely in the terms of MBTI. Te-users don’t routinely go through a thorough analysis of the static variables of a situation in order to decide the truth (I talk about this in the post I linked above). The combination of Fi-Te (in FPs) is probably the most likely to outwardly appear as subjective logic, but that’s really not what’s happening in their cognitive processes. They’re evaluating the situation based on personal values backed by collective truths. It’s not an evaluation of the situation based on personal truths.
The MBTI Types over things I’ve overheard at school
INTP:  But if aliens aren’t real tHEN IM NOT REAL
ISTP: Hey since you probably were planning on eating this cookie I’ll eat it for you your welcome
ENTP: Yeah sorry I didn’t do my homework my sim needed a new trashcan shaped house
ENFP: Someone should make a pickle flavored lollipop
ISFP: *starts to violently sob in the middle of class because they finished their book*
INFP: Hey can you listens to my meows and decide which one sounds the most cat-like
INTJ: But I don’t need detention my punishment is listening to you fools talk all day
ESTJ: No no no I can definitely do PE and math at the same time there is no reason to have two classes for it lisTEN TO ME I CAN DO IT trUSt mE
ESFJ: *gets in an argument with the other ESFJ over who can dance and clean at the same time the best*
ENTJ: I’m gonna make a 4 dimensional sword! Wait I mean only 3 dimensional. I can’t control time. Yet.
INFJ: Why can’t I do my book report on Harry Potter for the 3rd year in a row???
ENFJ: Can everyone pls chill I’m trying to think of a way to get everyone in the world to hug
ISTJ: I already did the homework for the next 3 weeks can I have a cookie now
ISFJ: *to ESFJ* I expected more from you. *to ENTP* I would say I expected more form you but I really didn’t.
ESTP: Hey don’t blame me, that roof was just waiting to be jumped off of.
ESFP: WAIT THERE WAS A PARTY AND I DIDN’T GET INVITED I’M GONNA FIGHT ALL OF YOU
have I reblogged this before? it’s funny
MBTI Traits Based Off Of People I Know
ENTJ: - you scare me - today you were cutting beets to make juice and I saw the red knife and immediately assumed you killed someone - you only view yourself as The Best™ or Scum of The Earth™
INTJ: - why do we suck at dating - for people who are usually amazing at reading people, we have terrible taste in significant others
ENTP: - stop. arguing. with. me. - if I needed a lawyer I would call you - you’re really interesting and good at conversation - one time an ENTP passionately hated me and two days ago she invited me out to dinner lmao
INTP: - I’m worried about you - you have a diary full of illegible scribbles - *points to stain on said diary* “I don’t know if this is soy sauce or blood” - you make me feel mentally stable
ENFP: - everyone likes you - why can’t you just…..commit to someone - I NEED MORE OF YOU IN MY LIFE WHERE ARE YOU ??
INFP: - precious people - good taste in books - you guys are so trustworthy and I have nothing bad to say about you
ENFJ: - YOU GUYS HAVE SUCH SPARKLING PERSONALITIES WTF - good at party planning - please…….let other people have opinions
INFJ: - you guys know exactly how much to reveal about yourselves and I admire that - I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: you are incredibly kinky
ESTJ: - would survive an apocalypse - I’d trust you with my life tbh - you like people to think you’re super conservative but I just found out about your wild side??? what??? - you have great hair and it’s really under-appreciated
ISTJ: - you know what you’re doing - people always interrupt you - keep doing your own thing ok you’re fine
ESFJ: - actual definition of the Mom Friend™ - I love your clothes???? and makeup?? - hey friend…….you don’t always have to be the one breaking up the fights ok? shh….chill
ISFJ: - you confuse me - are you like……okay? - thanks for giving me food you a homie
ESFP: - CALM. DOWN. - deep breath - please stop interrupting me mid sentence - who hurt your feelings? I’ll kick their ass - you’re amazing at decorating - your emotions overwhelm me - you have the best intentions - warm hearted !!!
ISFP: - Emotionally Vulnerable - very very creative - um I’m kind of hesitant to get close to you because of your emotional intensity - at least you guys channel your emotions into art??
ESTP: - actually has a life - usually found around other ESTPs - people always give credit to ENFJs for being group-orientated but honestly ESTPs don’t get enough recognition for always finding something fun for everyone to do
ISTP: - Cool Guy - you’re attractive and you know it stop - you’re also awkward and you know it, but everyone takes your awkward silences as being mysterious - *bong rip* “yeah I don’t mess with hard drugs. I mean, I snorted cocaine once but it wasn’t that much so I don’t count it”