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This blog is a catchall for therian/otherkin/fictionkin discussion, along with other things that may or may not pertain to my otherkinity such as reality shifting & systems.
Hey everyone, I'm officially over at Dreamwidth! I won't be back here for probably a long time, but I love all of you guys, and feel free to message me there or on discord. <3
I have a question for other Alterhumans/nonhumans. Do you consider yourself a person? I saw a post saying they think of animals as people and It made me curious.
Yes. And I encourage for everyone to do so.
Person is way more than just humans. Personhood is a sense of self, individuality and self-determination, and more. Personhood is who you are as a sapient being.
I wouldn't think as non-sapient animals as people, since "people" gives them an expectation of being held to the same moral standards as sapient morals, which they cannot comprehend. But just because they aren't people it doesn't mean they are less than us, we are simply in a different level from them due to our level of intelligence. Just like an orca is at a different level from a fish. Or a dog from a bird.
We have a responsibility, that's our difference. As a holothere, I am completely nonhuman, but I was granted sapience.
uh, yeah, no.
i can claim responsibility for my actions while rejecting my personhood.
i am not a human person, calling me one is extreemly disrespectful.
i am a being which understands its responsibility to be kind, caring, and loving.
animals are not stupid, neither am i.
the human race is not morally superior, and has never been.
as far as i see it, we are on equal playing feild.
stipping my so called human privlages away from me does not make me evil, if you think it does, change your thinking.
I didn't say animals were stupid, I didn't mean to imply human race is morally superior. I cannot understand the morals of a wolf, I am not a non-sapient animal, neither was I raised as a wolf. I have no idea where the hell you got the idea that I think humans are superior, when I explicitly stated us nonhumans and nonsapient animals are just as valuable, just as much deserving of respect.
Sapience doesn't mean to be human. It merely means you have the same capabilities in term of your mind.
You are not a human person. You are a nonhuman person.
I said personhood is not for humans only. It isn't a human thing inherently. I and many like me are living proof of such. It's a concept humans discovered and for lack of better word and other being that are capable of the same way they operate, we use them as an example of this type of being.
I am not human. Neither is my body. But I am a person, because personhood is about a sense of self, self-determination and individuality, not about being human.
If you are speaking to me, misunderstanding my words, twisting my words, and claiming some sort of morality, you are not free of your sapience.
can you be otherkin/therian for fun or does it have to be like a big spiritual thing /gen
So, yes and no, mostly in the sense that it depends what you mean by that.
The meanings of otherkin and therian are that you identify as nonhuman (otherkin)/an animal (therian). Theoretically, sure, you can choose to form a nonhuman identity for fun, and while some people will get on your ass about calling consciously chosen nonhumanity otherkinity/therianthropy instead of otherlinking (a term specifically for consciously created nonhuman or fictional identity), I personally think we need to kill that habit and stop trying to enforce an artificial boundary there. (500 years of community drama and debate have been redacted for your convenience.) So if what you mean is that, then yeah, sure.
But if what you mean by "for fun" is that it isn't and wouldn't be an actual identity for you at all, that it would be basically a faceclaim or roleplay that you can pick up and drop whenever, that it wouldn't be genuinely who and what you are - then no, that's not otherkinity or therianthropy. That's faceclaiming, or roleplay, or whatever other words may apply. The key part is that you are your kin/theriotype on an integral level - "I am dragonkin" is perfectly synonymous with "I am a dragon."
That doesn't mean you can't have fun with being nonhuman; it doesn't have to be a super-serious thing all the time. Of course it doesn't - what part of identity does, really? It's the same as gender; it being a genuine identity and a genuine part of who and what you are doesn't mean you can't dork around and have fun with it. (And it being serious doesn't mean it has to be spiritual either, for the record.) But ultimately the line is drawn here: whether it's primarily something that's fun for you or not, if you seriously sat down with yourself and said "I am nonhuman, I am [kin/theriotype]," would it feel true, or would it feel like a joke or a lie? If the latter, I'd personally encourage you to reconsider using a different word for the thing you're doing.
Hopefully that helps clarify? Happy to discuss further if you like. :3
hey thanks for taking the time to write out a whole response i really appreciate that.
i suppose for clarification i should say that i definitely don't feel like a human, but i don't know if i should make it a big deal? i guess? i also wouldn't know what my theriotype (if thats the right word) would be in the slightest. like im definitely not a human but am i actually anything else?
I've posted in the angelkin tag before but i think believeing i was an angel was more of temporary psychosis than anything else since i dont really feel like that anymore, and i cant rationalize why i even felt like that.
also how do things like otherkin work? how do you believe, for example, that you are a dragon? do you have to believe that dragons really exist/existed irl or is it more ephemeral than that?
what i mean by "for fun" i guess is to choose a theriotype (if thats the term) kinda at random without specifically feeling attached to that species? more of a top-down approach than a bottom-up approach. just picking something to be, entirely in the service of just not being human.
I’d definitely call that otherkinity (or therianthropy, if you end up going with an animalistic ‘type), in that case - and I think you might enjoy this recent panel from the 2025 Centaurus Festival on filling in gaps in your memories/noemata/experiences; it was aimed at gaps a bit smaller than that, but no reason you couldn’t apply the same philosophy. I think it might be worth looking into the term otherlinking for the purpose of finding resources on shaping a nonhuman identity like that, but if you want to just keep calling it otherkinity I ain’t gonna stop you. (Your experiences are a really interesting example of how those words can overlap, actually.)
(The word aspecies may also be worth a glance for you - there are people who just identify as not having a species at all; you don’t have to be Something Else to be nonhuman, it’s just not a super common experience, so you don’t see it talked about much. For that matter, the voidpunk community may be interesting to you as well!)
For things like draconity, no, you don’t have to believe your kintype has ever been physically real on this earth - or anywhere else, for that matter - to be a dragon. I personally believe it stems from a past life as a dragon in another world where dragons are physically real, but that’s not universal, and even if I someday decide I was wrong about that, I won’t just stop being a dragon. There are a thousand ways to explain why someone is otherkin - spiritual, psychological, and many things that are neither or both - but they’re ultimately just explanations. I’m a dragon because my experiences line up with dragon - phantom shifts of draconic wings and tail and sometimes other things, instincts to hoard and to make draconic noises and gestures and to seek high places, a bones-deep homesickness for the sky and longing for flight that feels distinctly like missing something I’ve never actually had, a deep and instinctive familiarity with and love of dragons, etc, etc. Individually, many of these things might just be normal “weird human” things - but taken together as a whole, they paint a very draconic picture, and in the end, calling myself a dragon and being recognized as one by others just feels deeply right. It’s a feeling not dissimilar to gender euphoria, if you’re familiar with that. I personally like to say my soul resonated so hard with the shape of the dragon that it “stuck” through the transition between lives, but you could just as easily simply say that being a dragon feels deeply, instinctively right on an integral level.
That being said, this is very much the experience of someone who is very firmly Something Specific, and for that matter is still human as well as dragon (and thus rarely has a drive to get away from humanity, only toward draconity). It won’t match up perfectly with your experiences and that’s okay. I could also talk about my linktype a bit, and how I’m trying to actively put myself in the mindset of a Na’vi to create that species identity, but I’m still new enough to that that I’m a little fuzzy on it - but I’ve essentially been consciously trying to think of myself as Na’vi, visualize and try to consciously create phantom shifts until they start happening naturally (phantom shifts aren’t a requirement by any means, but they’re a big part of my daily draconic experiences, so I’m using that as a guideline for my personal ‘linking), etc etc. It’s a bit more ephemeral, but again, I’ve only been a Na’vi for a handful of months - I’ve been a dragon my whole life.
…hopefully that answers your question in a helpful way, and I haven’t just rabbit-trailed off into ramblerant oblivion? ^^;
i dont understand otherkin /gen
someone knowledgable?
I also dont know too much about it but I would be interested to learn more about it if there is anyone who is comfortable talking about it /gen /nf
Hey! I've got some organizational tags on my blog that may be useful to both of you -
Otherkin 101: basic information on otherkinity and other forms of alterhumanity (it really should be alterhuman 101, but it’s an outdated tag)
Questioning: advice on questioning alterhuman identities, which often includes detailed “but what does it actually feel like/how do you know you’re [x]” writings
Community writings: experience essays written by alterhumans, talking about their own experiences and what it’s like to live with their identities
Journaling: all of my own writings about my alterhuman experiences, including all the day-to-day journaling posts that don’t necessarily make it into the community writings tag
(You may notice I use the word alterhuman here a lot - alterhuman is a much broader word than otherkin; otherkin means identifying as nonhuman, while alterhuman means any identity that is alternative to humanity or an alternative form of humanity compared to societal “normal human” - otherkin, plural systems, otherhearted folks, archetropy, people with hearthomes, etc etc. They’re not synonyms, though you’ll often see people misdefine alterhumanity as only being about nonhumanity these days.)
Happy to answer further questions from either of you if y'all want, but these should be good starting places for you!
Anyone know of any good otherkin servers? I’m looking for ones that are 18+ or 21+ and, if possible, ones with folks who were around in otherkin forums circa 2008.
Hmm...evidently the way "otherkin" is used now is dramatically different from how it was used in 2008.
I'm curious now, how was it used back then?
(Oh I love disambiguation! I will tell you!)
Back then, the term “Otherkin” described a specific circumstance, rather than an identity.
I know this sounds a bit squirrely considering it's always been characterized as an identity, so allow me to give a bit of background about the composition of Otherkinity as I learned to understand it:
There’s a faculty we have which I call “the kinesthetic sense.” We feel this sense very strongly until about the age of 3, after which the majority of us lose it (usually completely around the age of 7, it seems). The process of getting it back is a whole ball of wax, but the key takeaway here is that losing it causes us forget everything this sense has ever detected and what it’s like to have it. As a result, trying to discuss the impressions of this sense to those who don’t have it online, is like trying to talk about color theory to those who’ve only seen the world in grayscale.
Anyway, what this sense does is perceive the internally-felt landscape of shapes, colors, movements, and tones that define the “shape” or “energy” of an individual consciousness or phenomenon. Vividly detecting our own energy with this sense recalls the memory of our True Self—that is, what we know (not speculate, but Know) about ourselves.
This is a profoundly distinct experience that feels unlike any other feeling or emotion you'll ever have in your entire life. You will know it when you experience it, and you will feel like a nincompoop thinking you knew before.
It’s not as though everyone who has this sense-faculty online is Otherkin—it’s just that this sense is the modality through which this circumstance is discovered. It’s called an “Awakening” because the realization coincides with the kinesthetic sense “waking up” or coming back online again. During this process, some people discover (or rather, remember) that they’re something other than human, and that they’re just spending time incarnated as one for whatever reason.
The problem lies in how to describe this to a broader audience in a way that doesn’t sound incomprehensible. That’s where the identity bit comes into play: It’s easier for people to believe someone identifies as a dragon than it is for them to believe they are one. Framing it this way also leaves room for the benefit of the doubt: At the end of the day, there’s no way to know whether this phenomenon is spiritual or psychological in nature, so describing it as personal gnosis avoids attributing it to something unfalsifiable.
…And of course, putting it this way also prevents (or, rather, prevented) Otherkin from getting caught up in a narrative that they were in any way an exception to the human condition. Regardless of what they understand themselves to be, they're being human now.
Nowadays, it seems like “being Otherkin/Alterhuman” is defined the same way as “being transgender” is, in that it’s characterized by experiencing some kind of dysphoria around being human. The communities also seem to serve the same function that trans communities do, in that they’re places for people to explore their identities and connect with each other within that context.
However, this wasn’t the primary function that the old-school Otherkin communities I was part of served. Their primary function was to be—shall we say—a place for people to discuss color theory. And that’s what I’m looking for now.
Hi, I was active in the otherkin community during and before that time period, and I'm a community historian who has put decades of work into making sure that it isn't misrepresented, misremembered, or lost. Here's one of the books I wrote about it, which is cited in academic writings on the topic, such as Proctor’s anthropology dissertation. I’ve dedicated my life to contributing as much as I can to the otherkin community, but I’m not a leader in the community: it has no leaders, we’re all equal here.
I’m opening my response with my experience and credibility to establish why I'm concerned about your claims above and how you’ve presented them as though you're a community elder, even though you say you're not otherkin, and you have shown you haven’t explored the community enough to speak with the sort of authority that you express in your posts about it. For example, KinHost.org is one of the larger and older otherkin and plural websites still active, having started in 1999, run by a DID system with many otherkin members, who spoke at Plural Positivity World Conference 2024. It’s okay to not have known about that, but it’s something else for you to assert that this large part of the community never existed until recently, without the curiosity to first explore and see if you had missed something important.
For my research, I had to read every article defining otherkin from the time period you mentioned and earlier. Even when the word otherkin was coined in the year 1990 in the Elfinkind Digest, some members of that private mailing list described it as an identity. That has been one of the ways that people consistently talk about it over the decades, and in its adequate Dictionary.com definition.
What articles or sources do you have from 2008 or prior which say that "the term 'Otherkin' described a specific circumstance, rather than an identity"? That isn’t a claim that I recall seeing in any sources from that time period. If you can show me one via the Wayback Machine archive, I’d be interested in adding it to an interactive bibliography that I help run, the Alterhuman Archive.
Please be aware that shunning the words "identity" or "identify" is a red flag of transphobia. Transphobic rhetoric has politicized those words in recent years. In conventional English, "I am," "my identity is," and "I identify as" mean the same thing: identity means the condition of being something. It's the verb "to be."
You have given a very novel definition of kinesthetic sense here, which isn't something I recognize from otherkin essays. In medicine, the kinesthetic sense is part of your sense of balance and being able to tell how your body is moving and positioned, which is not lost in a typical and healthy childhood. What New Age authors use that word the way that you described? Or when you say "I call" it that, does that mean this redefinition is your own creation?
It's also worth pointing out that there has never really been a single unified otherkin community. Various otherkin communities sprang up independently of each other and each had its own culture and philosophy. The Elf Queen's Daughters, Alt.Horror.Werewolves, and Alfandra (to name the biggest three) had little discussion overlap and exchange of ideas.
Moving from the 90s into the 2000s, this only became more apparent, as more and more independent forums appeared. A distinct community with its own culture could be 20 individuals or 2000 individuals (though, yes, at this point many communities would have been aware of their sister communities).
All this is to say that "Back then, the term “Otherkin” described a specific circumstance, rather than an identity," without the addendum of "in my community" is misleading and inaccurate.
Anyone know of any good otherkin servers? I’m looking for ones that are 18+ or 21+ and, if possible, ones with folks who were around in otherkin forums circa 2008.
Click to join Haven’t been happy with any of the ones I’ve found so far, so. This server is primarily meant for older/adult otherkin with my
The invite code in this post is still valid. Definitely skews older than 21. Can't vouch for how many members were in the community prior to 2008, but at least uhh.... 5 of us that I know personally? lol
I don't understand why Naia Okami is allowed to be the public face of the therian community. Setting aside all the things she did to hurt our community (telling everyone not to join documentaries so she would be cast, destroying kinmunity, trying to destroy othercon, generally being an incredibly mean, vindictive, and self-important person), she also dated a pro-bestiality advocate and active child predator, and doubled down on supporting that person when allegations came out.
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For people that can't see the tweet. The audio is the video in the tweet.
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Everythibg is going to shit tornado wise just so hall know LMAO
Woof. I just unfollowed half of the blogs i had subscribed to, so im down to fifty. It still feels like a ton but its mostly my mutuals LMAO
Alright my dreamwidth is semi set up. Archiving is always such a massive pain for me but its fine. This will seriously help me be more deliberate with my posts n shit instead of just. Stream of consciousness blogging 24/7. The good thing is i havent done a HUGE amount of memory blogging on my accts, thank GOD. Otherwise, if it were like my old ass 2016 blogs id be dying
I will be leaving tumblr come april for dreamwidth. These accounts will not be deleted, just inactive. I will link my dreamwidth and my neocities once they are properly set up. You are free to come visit me there or say hello! You are also welcome to ask for my discord if you would still like to keep in closer contact with me.
I have a question, for systems whove never switched before/have someone frontstuck, how do you deal with that? Like how do you get them unfrontstuck? Our host has been frontstuck for two years and we dont know what to do and we’re desperate at this point
here's some resources for switching:
https://plural.systems/posts/switching/
https://www.feathersong.org/plural-howto/feathers-guide-to-fronting-and-switching/
https://gist.github.com/Xe/b97203769acb3dfa761f#malfaels-guide-to-switching
https://write.as/within/switching
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/1cigb6/selfawarebots_switching_guide/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/2f7ysm/guide_so_you_wanna_switch_do_you_really_might_be/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/5gaqye/a_quick_switching_practice_selftest_miniguide/
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/plural/comments/gk4a0z/learning_to_switch_voluntarily/
a lot of these are for tulpas, but should still work for any system
in order to not succumb to sex negative conservatism you have to accept that people will get off to things that are upsetting to you. and you cannot assume anything about what they have or have not experienced, what they do or do not believe, and how they act based solely on what gets them off. even if it's extremely confusing and disturbing to you. there are people who have only ever had heterosexual vanilla sex in missionary with the lights off, who actively contribute to more real world harm than your average fetish artist. kink is not a reliable source of information on someone's moral standing. it just feels good to think that way.
This is something I'm not proud of and I really regret, but I want to share it because I think it might help some others out there.
When I had just recently realized that I was a paraphile, I found some bad communities that were pro-contact. I didn't participate, but I did lurk (a lot). I felt like they were the only communities that I could ever have a chance of being a part of, because I felt that being a paraphile doomed me to being a social outcast.
I considered myself pro-contact at that time, and I agreed with a lot of the things that the people in those communities did. Fortunately, I left that mindset before I could do any serious harm.
All of that happened because I, like a lot of people, believed that all paraphiles were abusers and doomed to offend, and I gave in to that thought, with my reasoning being that 'if everyone is going to see me as bad no matter what I do, I might as well just be bad.' It's pathetic and I'm not happy that it happened, but it's how I felt, and I don't doubt that there's other people who feel that way right now.
Not everyone will see you as a horrible person, and you don't need to give in to how people see you. You can be strong and show them that you're not someone who's doomed to offend, you're someone who chooses to do good and defy their assumptions of you. It feels so much better to work on being better than to take the easy route and let yourself give in. You can always change, it's never too late.
If I can also chime in, I just want to add that when a community becomes so vilified it is considered "evil", finding anyone in that community can become hard. Lumping EVERYONE together and vilifying them, as a lot of people do to paraphiles, is incredibly dangerous. It's like sending a kid that wants to do scouting into the army instead. Even if the topics can be similar, like being outdoors and working in a group together, there's a massive difference between packing away your campfire smores and packing away a gun.
Having a vocal anti-contact paraphile community is ESSENTIAL to reducing the amount of harm in the world. Just because you're into something "bad" or "weird" doesn't mean you're slated to become the next Dateline killer. Instead of forcing shamed, scared children into dangerous communities (because, newsflash antis, a lot of people discover their "bad" thoughts when they're under 18), is quite literally the worst thing you could possibly do.
There must be a vocal, anti-contact paraphile community creating spaces to embrace our thoughts: legally, ethically, and respectfully. Also, having non-exploitative paraphilic content, is important too. Don't send horny, vilified kids to literal criminals or to the corners of the internet where terrorists are just to relate with someone about the thoughts in their heads.
I was that scared, horny, confused kid once - thinking I was some sinner for liking the thought of animals using me. If I knew people like Pearapeachfuzz/Peachfuzzpeara back then, I would have been exposed to way less harm and come to terms with myself way sooner. I want to be that force, even if it is horny sometimes, driving acceptance in the world. Who cares if some people don't like it? I'd rather have some haters and support the people who I can talk to and help than whatever the scary, scary alternative is.
For all those people like young me and Peachfuzz out there:
Anti-c paraphiles matter a lot.
You matter a lot.
You matter.
Speaking of Dreamwidth, it has some pretty terrible journal styles and it can be a pain to find the nicer ones. I did go through virtually all of them awhile ago and picked the ones I personally like best, though!
I mentioned these in a different post, but they were buried below the cut and I thought I'd give them their own post (apropos of nothing >_>):
My journal's style, Dark Blue by ninetydegrees—
Neutral Good by timeasmymeasure for Practicality—