weird things phannies say

dan and phil & phandom related discussion

[calvinahobbes]

(direct link to yt comment pls go like if you agree. text version below the cut:)

Lovingly, I don’t think you understand how ao3 and fanfiction are different from a lot of other fandom engagement. The people who post their fics on ao3 do so for an audience of PEERS, not you guys.

The users on ao3 were very, very likely Not hoping to have their usernames read out or receiving shoutouts For Writing Fic. I appreciate that you appreciate all your fans whatever the heck we get up to, but this engagement with fic also shows the limit of your understanding of the wider phandom. We have many instances of fic writers being harassed and even doxxed by other fans who come from different traditions and who think fic is immoral or bad in some other way. Even if you only express appreciation of fic, I am still apprehensive of how the majority of patreon subscribers will treat fic writers, especially the ones you draw attention to.

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that someone whose bio includes "floorplan connoisseur" says shit like this.

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

To those who have messaged me or anyone who follows this blog: yep, I'm still very much keeping up with Dan and Phil! Even have a pham patreon subscription to prove it lol. As for tumblr: I check in quite often, even if I seem to disappear every now and then :) Can't guarantee anything, but I promise I'll post if I feel like I have something to share.

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

kinda has me thinking about that age gap now that theyve said theyve been together for 16 years

hmm i don't have a strong opinion on their age gap. they were 18 and 22 when they met, sounds pretty normal to me

[danielhowell]

IS PHAN REAL? one of the biggest conspiracies in the history of the internet - we’re gonna talk about it https://youtu.be/Cxe_YMJ4nUs

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

❤️

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

I hope you feel like such a clown after everything that’s happened recently. You’re a joke, have always been a joke, and only now are you forced to come to terms with those facts.

What I've posted on this blog over the years, I don't regret saying any of it.

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

Do you have any opinions on their latest fanfiction video?

Good for them for getting that sponsorship money I guess

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

It seems like you don't even like them why do you have a page about them then lol

I do like them, that's why I've had this blog for over 6 years... What I didn't particularly like was Dan's most recent solo projects, or rather his attitude towards his audience. I'm happy the gaming channel is back, I really enjoy DP's joint content.

[fer3112]

I like it when the general public is like 'we don't know anything about dnp they are very private :)" meanwhile phannies keep begging Mr. No fucks left and Mr. Rpf is fine to stop talking about their sex life on youtube dot com

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

Ngl as someone who wrote Dan and Phil fanfics….and has sjnce deleted them. I cringe at the fics I used to write, like damn I regret writing those fics. Mostly because, looking back if I were Dan or Phil, I would be heavily disturbed by the stories I wrote. They werent too bad, but looking back I’m so glad they (hopefully) never found or read them.

Anon, I think it shows great self-reflection and growth that you're able to look back on all that

It's a pity that so many people in this fandom absolutely refuse to even acknowledge the negative implications of RPF

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

What Phil says: "This is what I think: fanfiction - as long as you're not being too creepy with it, because there's a line, everyone knows what those lines are, don't cross the line - I think it's a great way for people to express their creativity and also read more. Because it's hard to get people to read nowadays. And if you're reading a fanfic, that is increasing your attention span a lot more than a tiktok. So I… I don't think it's a bad thing. I think obviously the lines are blurred a bit when you're writing about real people, and each individual might feel different levels of comfort about the fact that they're being shipped with a fictional character or another YouTuber. I think that's more of a strange gray area. But for me, if you're not being too weird, I'm alright with it."

What fanfic writers hear: be as creepy as you want - cross all the lines - RPF is an amazing thing - be weird - I love it

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

How much time do you think dan and phil have left before most of their fans find a new hobby and they become irrevelant?

i guess it depends on your definition of 'irrelevant'? the peak of d&p's career was around 2016. a lot has changed since then, but they're still here, and people are still following them. i'm sure they'll be able to maintain a (perhaps smaller, but still) solid audience in the future as well, if they want to.

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

Ok so do you THINK PHAN IS REAL OR DO YOU THINK PHAN IS NOT REAL? thank you goodbye

dear anon, no offense (full offense) but i genuinely canNOT believe we're having tHiS discourse in the year of our lord 2024

dan himself said in his coming out video that he and phil used to be romantically involved; cue 5 years later, they're still living together. DO I THINK PHAN IS REAL OR NOT??? take a wild guess lmfao

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

Are you there

occasionally

[dramaphan]

unpopular opinion but i honestly think dan's show is kinda an interesting idea..... like if it were to be made and wasn't specifically about dan but a character that had the whole lawyer/sexuality crisis thing sorta like him with some sort of revelation or twist at the end then yeah i could imagine people tuning in bc ppl tune into the most slice of life of shows. however, if it was like advertised as a story based on dan howell's life and like some biopic almost then that just sounds overly pretentious and who tf would wanna watch lmao

Exactly like it's not a bad idea but the only people who are gonna watch it are the 6 phannies who still keep up with his every move. If he wants people to watch it, he's gotta tweak it to not be about himself specifically. Go the "inspired by" route with it, not the storytelling route

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

I agree that Dan's idea for a series was interesting, but unfortunately it was way too self-indulgent and not very original. Just an example: Look Both Ways was released on Netflix last year, and there are plenty other examples of parallel/alternate reality type stories, it's not exactly groundbreaking stuff.

What baffles me though is that if he'd reeally wanted to tell that story, he could've done it by turning it into a novel or a play (or both). Could've published it as a new book and/or could've performed it as a one-man show and I'm sure people would've been interested in buying the script too. And who knows, maybe later a series might have become possible (thinking of how Fleabag was made)

But no, as soon as it turned out his original idea wasn't going to happen, Dan just... Gave up the whole thing...? And decided to write a google-flavoured mental health advice book instead? And put together whatever doomscrolling stand-up(?) comedy(?) he's doing right now? What. Just. What. The fact that he didn't try to adapt his original story to a different form makes me think that A) he didn't even have a lot of material to begin with, just vague ideas (in which case, nothing of value was lost) or that B) he didn't really want to *tell a story*, he basically just wanted to star in a TV show and become an ~acteur~ (in which case, good riddance)

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

as someone who doesn't actively follow dodie (i've listened to a few of her songs in 2018 but that's it) it was a pleasant surprise to see her in dan's new video, it would've been really nice to hear what she's up to... except dan barely let her speak like what the fuck

Right? It was disappointing ngl

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

have you seen this article wate com/news/you-cant-give-up-daniel-howell-speaks-on-mental-health/

This was one of the better articles I've read about Dan and his tour promo (shame it's geo-blocked). It's funny though how Dan's described as a "powerhouse for mental health advocacy" and then he goes, "I think the more vulnerable you’re being on stage, the funnier what you’re talking about is. - The fact that this is the philosophy behind his comedy explains a lot. And I can finally articulate why I feel uncomfortable with his current style of content: it's true that by opening up about some your issues as a celebrity, you can be a positive role model for your fans, but as a comedian, it's NOT vulnerability that makes you funny in my opinion. Plenty of comedians keep private about their vulnerable issues and are still able to entertain and make people laugh. Like, why is ~keeping things inside until you explode~ vs. literally broadcastig your mental breakdown to the whole world the only two options? You should be able to be funny without tapping into your trauma all the time. If you need to be vulnerable to be funny, that means you're not a very good comedian, sorry.

[weirdthingsphanniessay]

thoughts on his *ahem* voting pic?

I... uhh it made me uncomfortable ngl

Like. We get it, you've been working out. I bet he's been just waiting for an excuse to post it