I've already said that I like all the characters, but I also said that I don't like only Evil Jax.
Sorry, I just don't trust him :_,)
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I've already said that I like all the characters, but I also said that I don't like only Evil Jax.
Sorry, I just don't trust him :_,)
I had a dream where Jax and the other abstracted people "came to life" and Pomni wanted to hug him. But Jax told Pomni, "I don't want to change." I didn't quite understand the exact meaning of his words or why he said it, but it made me sad. Perhaps Jax meant by his words that he wasn't happy about his "return." It was a rather melancholy dream..
Imagine Leeroy (Jax) in real life putting on VR glasses again and entering a digital circus. And there will be a completely new version of Jax. And he will be nicer to everyone. Because he was able to overcome a difficult mental state, found a job, and made new friends. What will his/her name be? Still Jax? Jax 2.0? The cooler Jax? Jux? Jinx? Daisy? Lilly? Greznedge??
In all seriousness, how will everyone at the circus react to Jax’s “return”? I think it’ll be pretty tragic, considering it’s a completely different brain scan—he/she won’t know them, and he’ll have to get to know everyone all over again.
I don’t like this feeling, and I think I’m "a little" burnt out.
A lot of people constantly criticize Jax—and while I understand that it’s deserved (and I do it myself, too)—I feel that those who see him as an irredeemable monster are mistaken. However, when people rightly criticize him for his actions toward others, I agree with them. In my country, many people used to be huge fans of Jax. But after the finale, quite a few started to hate him, which is sad—even though I understand why. I know Jax is a complex character who evokes mixed feelings, yet it still makes me sad to see the intense reaction I have toward him now that the finale has passed. I criticize him for what he did, but I get sad when someone else does the same. It’s a strange feeling.
+Someday I’ll leave the fandom, and it will be hard to say goodbye to my favorite characters.
Man, yeah I get this. Fun fact: I was originally gonna make a Long ready player one like Novel with my Au and whatnot that references the original.
But I decided I just keep that in the background and left open, because that’s more convinant and fits the story and the way it was written better.
All because I wanted to give Jax and the other characters some linen act and have a moment to apperciate them and breathe. That and I didn’t want to actually make a full on novel LOLL. Nor even Gooseworx would do that. And I like sticking one day to a big novel with my original characters hehe.
So yeah.
I get the feeling and understand :( I still love Jax and probably always will. I mean, I liked him from the beginning and kinda knew where his story was going but yuh
I don't mind people criticizing Jax for his actions so much. It's understandable and alot better than unfairly blaming the others for it like I've seen. But the idea that those things mean he shouldn't get his side of the story told, that the others should have just let him die alone, or that they should have tortured him instead of treating him like a person does bug the heck out of me. Especially since these same people tend to use the opposite arguments about Caine who arguably did far worse even if it was more understandable and justified.
THIS
YEAH
Also I agree with you two!
I don’t like this feeling, and I think I’m "a little" burnt out.
A lot of people constantly criticize Jax—and while I understand that it’s deserved (and I do it myself, too)—I feel that those who see him as an irredeemable monster are mistaken. However, when people rightly criticize him for his actions toward others, I agree with them. In my country, many people used to be huge fans of Jax. But after the finale, quite a few started to hate him, which is sad—even though I understand why. I know Jax is a complex character who evokes mixed feelings, yet it still makes me sad to see the intense reaction I have toward him now that the finale has passed. I criticize him for what he did, but I get sad when someone else does the same. It’s a strange feeling.
+Someday I’ll leave the fandom, and it will be hard to say goodbye to my favorite characters.
One of the things I don’t like about fandom (in this case, the Tadc fandom) is how people compare which characters have the most tragic backstories and which of them suffered the most. They ALL suffered (in this case, people were talking about Ragatha and Jax). Both have defense mechanisms to cope, and they are opposites.
It's sad that some people misunderstand both of these characters (as strange as it may sound). For example, many saw a discussion where people hated Ragatha for yelling at "poor" Jax (who deserved it). After that, more people came to Ragatha's defense (which I'm glad about). However, to be honest, I also feel sorry for Jax. Yes, he's a jerk, but I don't like when some people trivialize his trauma. It's sad because he's actually redeemable. Deep inside Jax actually was deeply sorry and even wanted to apologize to Gangle. He actually could have been a good friend if he'd dropped his asshole facade. I mean, seriously. There were moments when Ribbit and Kaufmo seemed comfortable around Jax, which proves that without his terrible coping mechanism, he can be a good conversationalist. For example, in the moment where Jax bonded with Pomni in episode 6.
So…
In the end I will say.
I just.. don't like it when people trivialize characters' trauma. Personally, I find it hard to compare things like that. Especially on this show, where literally every character suffered.
one of the most significant themes of the show is that people are more than their mistakes, and that is important because people who have been hurt very badly often make very serious mistakes because of the way pain has twisted their worldview into a knot. the thing that makes a mistake a mistake is that you didn't intend it. once it's been made, the most important thing is deciding what you do next; how you make up for it, and how you keep it from happening again. arguably, Ragatha dropping the "you're trying to corrupt her" thing on Jax while he was making his first positive connection in ages is one of the things that causes the most on-screen harm in the entire show. she says it at the worst possible time, and what he hears is "you kill everyone that gets close to you and you'll do it to Pomni too", and that makes him think about Ribbit which makes him agree with Ragatha which makes him push Pomni away which sends him into a steep spiral he never recovers from. it's something Ragatha would have been able to tell was the most hurtful thing she could possibly say if she thought about it a little bit, but her own trauma made her terrified of allowing herself to feel negative emotions, which meant that when they inevitably built up anyway she had no experience with dealing with them and lashed out hard when her threshold was crossed. and, with all that said, it would be ludicrous to say that Jax abstracting was Ragatha's fault. it was a mistake she made that hurt someone, and it piled on to a bunch of other hurt that was there, one straw too many on a camel's back. accidentally badly hurting Jax in that way does not make her a monster, or a bad person. and very crucial to the whole narrative is that she is able to bring herself to believe that about herself, and so she survives. Jax, who made a serious mistake that hurt Ribbit in a way that was a huge contributor to their abstraction, was not able to believe that. he decided his mistake was all he would ever be, that he would inevitably make that mistake again, and took steps to ensure he never could. can't hurt someone that cares about you if everyone hates you instead. all of the harm he did in the show was based on that belief, and he never got past it, and it killed him. point being; the most important thing when harm is being done is not deciding who is to blame, it is stopping the harm from being done. Jax would not have been hurting anyone if he was not so intently hurting himself, and it was something he could have healed from, and the very real ways in which he was awful does not make it less of a tragedy that he didn't.
Great analysis of the characters and the plot overall! I have nothing more to say.
One of the things I don’t like about fandom (in this case, the Tadc fandom) is how people compare which characters have the most tragic backstories and which of them suffered the most. They ALL suffered (in this case, people were talking about Ragatha and Jax). Both have defense mechanisms to cope, and they are opposites.
It's sad that some people misunderstand both of these characters (as strange as it may sound). For example, many saw a discussion where people hated Ragatha for yelling at "poor" Jax (who deserved it). After that, more people came to Ragatha's defense (which I'm glad about). However, to be honest, I also feel sorry for Jax. Yes, he's a jerk, but I don't like when some people trivialize his trauma. It's sad because he's actually redeemable. Deep inside Jax actually was deeply sorry and even wanted to apologize to Gangle. He actually could have been a good friend if he'd dropped his asshole facade. I mean, seriously. There were moments when Ribbit and Kaufmo seemed comfortable around Jax, which proves that without his terrible coping mechanism, he can be a good conversationalist. For example, in the moment where Jax bonded with Pomni in episode 6.
So…
In the end I will say.
I just.. don't like it when people trivialize characters' trauma. Personally, I find it hard to compare things like that. Especially on this show, where literally every character suffered.
Marinette, look..I know we don’t get along, but I think you should tell Adrien the truth.
Sorry, but I had to do it lol
I'm not the only one who also experienced this feeling? Right?
This theory really makes sense actually!
I just want to say that I love all the characters on this wonderful show. I can't hate them. They're all interesting in their own way. NONE of them are villains. They have their flaws, and that's great. They're not perfect, and that's perfect. I love how they all became one big family in the end, including Caine and Jax.
I love how Pomni and the others still visit the abstracted people. I love how she is empathetic and, along with the others, tried to help Jax despite what he did. I love how Zooble, despite their dislike for Jax, understood his problems and tried to help him too. Even Gangle, who suffered from Jax's antics herself, understood him too. She's 26, after all. She's pretty smart, but very insecure and has self-esteem issues. I love how Ragatha tries to help everyone else. Her kindness is part of her coping mechanism, which makes her interesting. I love how Kinger is a father figure to everyone else. He's a very interesting character with a tragic backstory and is one of Caine's creators. He's one of the most beloved characters, which is no surprise.
Caine and Jax are complex characters. And I'll say it right away: I like them both! Caine is a “little AI” who wants to make everyone happy and be loved, but he always failed. Which is not surprising. He had a poor understanding of people's emotions and sometimes tried to win their love in the wrong way, which only made things worse. Yes, he's really like a "big" child who wants attention and love!
And Jax... I've written about him so much that I'm already tired. I just can't hate him! Even despite what he did before! I got too attached to him, and his backstory and the situation with his mother broke my heart. I'm glad that Jax, as Leeroy, was able to redeem himself and make friends. But I want to believe the already popular theory that "Jax"(as a character) will "come back." That is, he supposedly "recovers." Which is unlikely, but I want to believe it ❤️🩹
Is Jax a morally gray character?
Yes
No
Personally, I think Jax is morally gray. He may not have been a good person and did a lot of bad things, but there were moments when he was with the others and even helped them at times. For example, in episodes 7 and 8. This is one of the reasons why I can't call Jax terrible. Rather, I would simply call him bad or "not a good person."
Hot Take: Just because Jax is a bad person doesn't mean he can't be morally gray. People can change. For both good and bad.
I know many may disagree with me, but it irritates me when many justify Caine's actions by saying he's "not human." Just because he's "not human" doesn't justify what he did to others. I like Caine as a character, but I don't like it when he's justified in almost everything. Just like Jax (though to be honest, I've seen more people writing about how some people is justifying him than those who actually do it)
As I thought, it's tough being a Jax fan on YouTube after the finale officially aired. Everywhere I go, there's Jax hate (especially now). Especially on Reddit. The criticism directed at Jax himself is certainly deserved, don't get me wrong. But too often, it's hate, not justified criticism. And it's so annoying. But I just want less negativity, where people can just discuss the plot and characters normally, without hatred. Without constant hatred for each other. I hate to say it, but "this fandom is a prison." And it's really hard to find a "safe zone" right now. Yeah, I know it sounds weird.
I won't lie, hearing that Jax goes to Zooble's bar in the real world, did make me tear up a bit
Well, this aged like milk..
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I realized something. Some people assume Jax never got a redemption arc and is essentially irredeemable. But I don't think so. Quite the opposite. I think his abstraction in the digital circus symbolizes the "death" of his other self, who was in a difficult life situation, whose mind and actions worsened with each passing day. In short, his digital copy is a clear example of how much a person can change for the worse without psychological help during trauma. His(Leroy) digital copy (Jax) is like a bad, more "corrupted" version of himself, one he doesn't even know about, but if he did, he'd want to forget and start a new life.
As a result, it seems he's split into two parts of himself: "Jax" and "Leroy." One gave up and went down the wrong path, while the other didn't give up and took the right path, changing his life for the better by giving himself a chance.
Oooo interesting interpretation! I like it!
Thanks!
At first I didn't quite understand the finale, but later the it grew on me and then I came up with this interpretation!