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why do you and others like vaccines so much?
not dying of preventable diseases is actually one of my favorite hobbies
it's funny how after 2 years, ot4s still didn't get their ot4 content
cheers, i guess
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I hate to join in on such controversies(altho i have been following the news since the start) because it is only nothing but drama and i really don’t wish to contribute to all the negativity because tumblr is my safe space and i want it to have nothing but +ve vibes. I have kept mum ever since the whole issue broke out because i did not want to add on to all the negativity that is going around but i get triggered when i see posts dragging ri to filth with a lot of absurd information and as a fan of big bang since 2007 i feel compelled to document my thoughts because trying to stay silent has been incredibly difficult especially since i’ve seen some blogs who have been around for some time all speaking up against ri. I have made a post previously (x) venting my frustrations but I’ve never really stated exactly why so here are personal thoughts:
#1 Ri & Burning Sun Lemme just start with some facts. Seungri DOES NOT entirely own Burning Sun.
Burning Sun Share Percentage:
- Cheonwon Industry/Le Meridien (the hotel BS was located) 42%
- Madam Lin 20%
- Lee Moonho (BS CEO) 10%
- Lee Sunghyun (BS CEO, Cheonwon director) 8% (this dude is NOT ri)
- Yuri Holdings 20% (SR owns only 40% of Yuri, so technically SR only owns 8% of BS)
As from the above information, Seungri’s shares come from Yuri Holdings in which he owns 40% of so as stated above he only owns 8% of Burning Sun. Does he have a say in Burning Sun? Of course. Is his say powerful enough to override all the other shareholders should he decide to stand up and object all the dirty operations of burning sun? Most probably not.
Here is one whole thread you can read for more information on Ri and Burning Sun
If you ask me, my personal opinion is that Seungri has almost no say in how Burning Sun run their day to day operations and is only part of the shareholder because of his celebrity status. Also, let’s not forget that amidst all his “businessmen life” Seungri is also a kpop idol and he has to prepare for his solo album/concert and other activities YG has scheduled for him and getting involved in day-to-day operations of the club is very unlikely. Whether Ri knew about the type of operations BS had before he decided to join as a shareholder is unclear. This is where you make the decision yourself. #2 Hidden Camera Chats Seungri wasn’t charged for rape.
One of the media reports admitted that they intentionally edited one of the chatroom screenshots so all in all the authenticity of all the hidden camera chats are not confirmed.
You can read more information regarding the Molka Chats here.
Now here’s where we all take our own personal stands. People are dropping ri because they deem him guilty as a bystander- knowing about it but choosing to not do anything.
Here’s my personal stand on ri: We don’t know exactly how close ri are with the other celebrities involved exactly. They may be just surface acquaintances who get together for certain things(in this case the chats) but as a fan of Big Bang since 2007, I don’t think ri is rotten from the core.
In fact he has tried to stop them and voiced out his disagreement before. Ultimately he can’t take a knife and point it at their throats.
Then the judgement comes on ri’s personal choice of friends. Why is he even choosing to be friends with them in the first place? Who knows? Maybe there’re other benefits like them having connections to people who might benefit him in the future? Who really knows. For one I can say I don’t think ri considers them as his “inner circle”. But as to why he is keeping them around, probably only ri himself knows.
So you make your own choice. There are many ways we can argue morals. But perspective also comes into place, and as easy as it is for us to take a stand as a bystander, when you are the party involved directly, it can sometimes be hard to outright shut down someone you are close to but not really that close to. ykwim?
#3 What Seungri is really charged for
Prostitution mediation (Christmas party 2015 ONLY. B'day party in Palawan is not included)
Buying sexual service in Dec 2015
Embezzlement (264M won (brand license fee) but including payment for Yoo’s Nemo Partners became 530M)
Violation of Food & Sanitation Act (registering Monkey Museum club/bar as restaurant for lower tax)
more info on ri n his charges here
I dont think ri engaging in prostitution services are surprising. Do note that the above mentioned are all consensual. The women knew about it and it was a deal. There was no rape involved. The rest of the charges are his personal choices. If he is found guilty for all these charges ultimately, I think he should pay for his wrongdoings but I don’t see why he doesn’t deserve a second chance should he sincerely repent.
Also if you can check @officialyanghyunsuk‘s post/blog for more info
Yeah, all in all I guess that’s about it. Typing this post took an hour and it drained all my energy. Like I mentioned I really dislike any negativity and I’m sorry to all the people who come to my blog to have a happy moment of getaway and is subjected to reading this. I guess I just really needed to get this entire issue off my chest once and for all because some accusations of ri that are going around are really so ridiculous and it breaks my heart.
All I can say is that ri has worked so hard to get to where he is today and just because of this one incident everyone’s kicking him to the gallows and my heart just can’t allow that to happen although I know it’s pointless to try and fight anyone online but I guess this is the best I can do for him. I will still continue to support ri because I feel that this is the time he needs us the most. This is probably the last time I’m ever going to talk about this issue here(unless more news comes out) because it is too energy draining. If you read up till here I just wanna say thanks for taking this time. x
Yes! Many ot5 are not supporting him blindly. We have sat down and read many articles and have seen inconsistencies through several. The Molka chat itself is a heavy topic and even then what came out of it was quite the opposite. I’ve seen ppl saying stuff about snuff films when that was a misinformed thread taken out of context - the actual information was from a book written and published much earlier than Burning Sun was even an idea on a piece of paper.
Everyone is free to believe what they want. However dragging ot5 to filth for wanting to know the FULL story is truly not it. Yes your feelings are hurt but so are ours as we fight for the truth. And on top of that Kang changed her story three times on a certain chat - if she is changing them this fast then it is very clear she never fact checked properly. The first thing I got taught in my journalism classes was the importance of fact checking. It’s absurd to see so many articles that don’t do that.
The prostitution itself is all over the place too. Several reports came out saying David admitted he did it but Seungri had no idea, and then insert Channel A saying Seungri admitted to buying, yet nobody but ot5 asked, “How do you get such information from a closed hearing?” There are laws there that state punishment will happen if you leak true statements from closed hearings. Yet no punishment was taken - so how credible is Channel A? Their track record is absolutely terrible and a google search is the start of finding out why. His lawyer himself has had his statements made up by media and deleted. They have not spoken a word to media at all other than the beginning.
The Judge rejecting the warrant says a lot too. Media even made articles on his background to try and drag him. Whether you support Seungri or not is up to you - however do not take away the right of wanting to know the truth from those who have stayed. Look at how this all started and look where we are now.
The negativity is draining and I’m sick of being hated on for wanting to know the full story. We are 6/7 months in and everything is so different from how it started. We have people who have studied law, journalism and so forth who are staying because they too believe the story is different than what media has fed us.
Anyways, thank you for making this post. It is hard to state thoughts without getting dragged to filth. And to anyone who has left - it is your decision and your morals. But do understand many are staying due to their own reasons too. It’s so much more than being a “fan girl.” It’s a real life situation with real life consequences.
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