RedKnight

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I was at an art and chat event and I decided to make due on something I said to @can-of-slorgs a long time ago. Sadly im not sure, they use Tumblr much anymore...

I drew their Neopet Minette, ignore some of the wonky proportions lol, but I quite liked it. It's actually not the first time I tried drawing Minette, but I wasnt really happy with it at all.

I wish I wasnt as busy right now, I want to dedicate all my time to Neopets lol.

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Geekify writing a 3k word response to all this. How exciting. Unfortunately I am not in the mood to read all of this, bjt I can practically feel the drama emanating off of this. If someone could so kindly explain to me what they're saying id loveeee that. From the bit I did read it sounds alot like Geekify blaming Neopets for not talking with them enough.

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Okay I lied, I read it anyways... wow thats alot.

So from what I gleaned, Geekify alleges that the Neopets team have been kinda hell to work with and that they have been working so hard to make this product. Guys trust that we love Neopets and have definitely behind the scenes had alot of work done for all that stuff you guys said sucked or wasnt part of what we showed in the, Draft of a Draft.

We weren't gonna say anything, but.... Neopets sucks and theyre horrible to work with and have constantly been a wall hampering our progress. This is totally the wrong decision for Neopets to drop us, but I guess theyre legally allowed to...

Okay summary done. Honestly this is so messy, Geekify is definitely trying to make themselves look good in response, but Im not too in disbelief of the idea of Neopets being hard to work with. Ugh this is all so much. Re-reading this sounds like a good idea to fully understand the situation and I recommend anyone else interested to look at the Neopets TTRPG kickstarter page. Maybe Jellyneo will also just write out the response on their website too. Ugh, this all sucks.

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Geekify writing a 3k word response to all this. How exciting. Unfortunately I am not in the mood to read all of this, bjt I can practically feel the drama emanating off of this. If someone could so kindly explain to me what they're saying id loveeee that. From the bit I did read it sounds alot like Geekify blaming Neopets for not talking with them enough.

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Some scenes you never forget.

Dedicating this piece to @starbiology

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So guess who won his first round of Food Club even though he's been playing Neopets for years~

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So was noone going to mention that one of the spells in the Neopets TTRPG is "Wall of Teeth" where "The user creates a hairy wall of fleshy tendrils with razor-sharp fangs".

Honestly some of the stuff in this ruleset is like... so beyond the scope of appropiate for Neopets that I actually kinda wish they'd somehow stay in it.

[sawkinator]

>'hairy wall of fleshy tendrils with razor-sharp fangs'

>'beyond the scope appropriate for Neopets

um

idk man

are you sure about that

[yowassupitsred]

Im gonna respond to this and then im gonna just generally talk about the TTRPG because I have some thoughts about this whole debate.

So first of all, Pleaseee noooo, I promise I dont think Neopets is like a babies toy simulator with no menacing or scary parts. Do not put that on my name 😭 I know Neopets can get decently brutal, gory, and violent.

Gore and Body Horror adjacent stuff is kinda uncommon in Neopets, and when it is present its honestly kinda goofy. Like you cant seriously compare the toothy toilet item to the description of "fleshy tendrils with razor-sharp fangs".

You do however bring up a good point that Neopets does honestly dip its toes into this stuff sometimes. The thing is, that it's never presented as normal or like just a natural way of Neopian life. Stuff like the gore and body horror is typically reserved for like Mutants, or the Haunted Woods and they're very specifcally most of the time described as being gross or scary. The Tale of Woe is supposed to be a scary story, the Haunted Woods is supposed to be a scary place.

Neopia in its entirety is not the Haunted Woods, its a part of Neopia and it has its role in making Neopia a more fleshed out and deep world surprisingly enough.

Thats the problem with the TTRPG, it doesnt have these pieces its instead one big piece thats horribly multicolored. Haunted Woods can be such an interesting place because it allows Neopets to do Horror in a way that wont feel out of place if they did it literally anywhere else. Imagine if the Tale of Woe type of shenanigans happened in Faerieland, it wouldnt fit at all. The TTRPG doesnt do this sort of organizing which is pivotal to having Neopia feel interesting and not crazy and weird.

For the TTRPG, the wall of teeth is just normal its like one of the like 10 "Life" powers anyone can do. If they took care to actually have this feel like Neopets they would have this be specified for like people that come from the Haunted Woods or for some sort of like Witch Class. Except uh oh, the hometowns literally do nothing, and theres no Classes or anything similar to speak of that would let this game have this sort of separation and orderliness that makes it all flow together.

Im gonna stop there because I have work I need to do and I could go on and on about the failings of this product.

[yowassupitsred]

So was noone going to mention that one of the spells in the Neopets TTRPG is "Wall of Teeth" where "The user creates a hairy wall of fleshy tendrils with razor-sharp fangs".

Honestly some of the stuff in this ruleset is like... so beyond the scope of appropiate for Neopets that I actually kinda wish they'd somehow stay in it.

[yowassupitsred]

So tell me if im cooking or not, but im thinking about my DanganAllNight AU again. I like to think that Sayaka would use her idol background to train some of her classmates a step further than basic dances and singing. I think she'd go intensive with the training considering they're put in a life or death situation here, but yhea I'd imagine her making an idol bootcamp.

And who's enrolled in Idol Bootcamp? I think Sayaka would handpick the classmates she thinks would do the best at the job in the sense that they would take easiest to rigorous training, also I think its funny. The candidates I think she would pick out? Asahina, Mukuro/Junko, Sakura, and Kiyotaka.

They wouldn't be like actual idols, Sayaka would just need them to do the dancing and singing so Aoi would be perfect, in her eyes, pretty and already does regular training. If Sayaka only knew Mukuro as Junko (havent thought about it to hard) then Id also imagine she'd have a similar thought process to picking Aoi, pretty face, pretty body, and a fashion model should be used to having to take orders and stuff.

The fun ones I think would be Sakura and Kiyotaka. I think she'd pick Sakura probably off of Asahina's suggestion and then Sayaka would think about and totally dig it. I mean Sakura might not be built the way an average Idol looks, but she has strict training and takes care of her fitness extremely well, so it would be a natural shift to adopt Sayaka's extra-indepth idol dancing daily practice sessions. Kiyotaka probably keeps himself exercising regularly as well, but more importantly he's very effort focused, he puts 110% effort into everything so Sayaka would naturally see that and decide that if she tried to train him into an idol, he would put in a staggering amount of effort into doing a good job.

Aside from that, I just think its entertaining to think of them as an idol group. Mukuro having to mask even more and take her impersonation of Junko to new limits, her military training kicking in when she's put into super idol training. Sakura being this like giant idol girl who honestly kinda loves the whole thing, but may feel self conscious about it. Asahina fits in pretty well, and honestly shes saved by the fact it would be mostly singing and dancing and none of the public appearance stuff because she wouldnt be able to hide her real emotions at all. Kiyotaka being the one boy of the group and also being extremely awkward as a person, but extremely dedicated to doing stellar at this task he's been given. Probably the stiffest of them all in the beginning.

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Danganronpa AU where Junko decides to tease Sayaka in the killing game by giving the class the impossible task of creating a music video in like 5 days and have it be well received in the outside world. Sayaka out of nowhere decides she can't let her classmates down even though most of them don't know the first thing about dancing or singing, or even an idea of how to edit and put together a music video. As the resident Pop Star she like comes up with a simple enough choreography for, everyone, and assigns specific jobs outside of dancing to different people, like editing and graphic design to Chihiro and Hifumi. Then like makes sure the shots all look great and has them put it together and turns it in, to a honestly shocked Junko who predicted this going horribly for them.

The Post-Tragedy world actually eats this up and the music video is done so well it inspires hope in many people and using the system that Junko set in place to let people report the despair of what she thought was going to be trainwreck of a video, the audience shows the hope they feel. Junko knows that the world is still unhealthy and will quickly like go back to unrest and despair if the class slips up or makes things stale, so she decides to see how far this'll go. Replaces the Killing Game with like a challenge to the class to keep making music videos and if the audience ever votes that they feel more despair than hope they all die. Cue Sayaka becoming the protagonist as she continually works to make sure every music video shines and shows off every student's dancing and singing capabilities to the best possible degree.

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[yowassupitsred]

Err. Am sorry about going pretty silent again. Ah've found myself really busy, promise ah haven't forgotten about any of ma Fandoms. Ah'm just... tired. Also ah've totally started creative writing and ah've been doing alot more o' that than ah've been drawing recently. If ah publish ah fanfic ah'll post about it here too.

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Its still Mondo's Birthday somewhere!!! Ahahahhaah

Just a doodle I did to celebrate the special occasion.

Mondo you will always be loved <3

Little chibi friends there because I could've imagine them giving gifts that Mondo would really like. I imagine Leon and Sayaka working together to get signed albums from bands that Mondo likes.

Chihiro would be the one that him the plush dog and flowers.

Hifumi and Sho, would both have gotten Mondo boys love manga that Mondo acts freaked put about, but trust he's reading that under his covers red faced. Hifumi actually made the bl that he gifted and said it was inspired by Mondo and Taka's relationship.

Taka, gift not pictures here because Taka's gift was to take Mondo out on a date. Yes, Taka did save up for months to be able to afford to go someplace nice with him. Mondo let's him do this for him, but then they go out and Mondo buys him equally expensive stuff.

[yowassupitsred]

This drawing junk sucks....

In all seriousness, im still working on this thing. Digital isn't my forte, I really need to get more used to this jank though. Anyways here's a WIP of the drawing im working on, these two gays are the sole reason im back into this series...

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Okay guys, that Dangan drawing I said I was working on is still in the works, so heres a snack instead.

I got suddenly very busy (actually) and havent had the opportunity to draw on the bigger piece. To placate Im instead offering you guys this Kiyotaka doodle I did with mouse. Awhile back, I started doodling kiyo n stuff while I was bored and away from my tablet so here's one of em. Funny story I was supposed to uh post this earlier, but I just... never did. So now I am! Enjoy!

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Im drawing stuff ah promise!! I just take too long drawing, ah really outta learn to draw faster....

Also dont get mad, but ahm lowkey starting to hyperfixate on a different fandom... ah've not been interacting with Neopets as much, but by the stars ah've been getting way back into my middle school danganronpa obsession...

Anyways If I havent posted anything in 2 days time, someone send me an angry message telling me to get on my grind. Honestly sometimes I simply just dont post stuff even if im finished with it...

[neo-punks]

TDFheads, want your opinions.

So the map from the game I think was using a more vague model of Neopia before Brightvale was added to the world map. TDF came out in 2005 and the Neopia map was updated in 2006.

In the game, Sophie lives in the Werelupe Woods, despite her title literally being Swamp Witch, so you would expect her to be closer to Bogshot.

In Tale of Woe, Sophie is pretty explicitly placed in a swamp somewhere in Haunted Woods.

Now, assuming that the TDF map is SOMEWHAT accurate though maybe not exact, do we think it is possible that Werelupe Woods/Bogshot are actually part of Haunted Woods territory even though the map is explicitly labeled "Kingdoms of Brightvale and Meridell"?

In the official canon map, Brightvale is close-ish to Haunted Woods, so it could be that Werelupe Woods and Bogshot are somewhere between Brightvale and Haunted Woods?

All of this is to ask: do we think that Sophie could possibly exist anywhere near Bogshot swamp?

I remember seeing a post recently where it was being discussed that she was immune to the Darkest Faerie's influence because she was in Werelupe Woods. Because she is somewhat of a neutral character, do we think it's possible that she relocated to Werelupe Woods temporarily because she somehow caught wind of the Werelupe King's deal with TDF and wanted to take advantage of it, but would normally be found somewhere out in the swamp?

We know from Neopedia that she definitely lives in a swamp *in Haunted Woods*, so if we consider Bogshot to be part of Brightvale and not Haunted Woods, then I don't think it would be possible for this to be canon. But as far as I can tell, Bogshot is already not really canon, and the in-game map is DEFINITELY not canon when compared to the live map. The official game lore says Bogshot is "north of Brightvale" but it also implies that Brightvale is east of Meridell and that appears to not be officially true, so we could maybe conclude that the residents just misdrew their maps based on a limited amount of information and misjudged the cardinal directions? 🤔 (or just consider it retconned since it's pretty inaccurate)

But yeah, feel free to weigh in. I really like Bogshot, I think it's a quaint little swamp town, and I like the idea of Sophie's home being somewhere in the Bogshot Swamp even if not in the village of Bogshot itself (I think she would be too much of a loner to live that close to other people)

Edit: To be clear, I can choose to believe this and headcanon it all I want of course, but if suddenly Bogshot were turned into a real location and were placed near Haunted Woods and Sophie's lore were updated to claim that she lived near Bogshot in the Haunted Woods, would that be TOO retconny based on what we know about Bogshot's lore from the game that it is closer to Brightvale?

[starbiology]

I just assumed Shadowglen Woods, Werelupe Woods, and Bogshot were meant to be part of The Haunted Woods but looking at them next to each other it doesnt really line up with the site map.

Honestly I have a preference for the TDF game map as more of the 'lore/npc canon' simply because it looks nicer and is more thoughtfully built out (because it needed to be more functional). and the site map as a representation of right inbetween the petsite and loremap versions of neopets

[neo-punks]

Yeah that is definitely kind of how I see those places too? Like, thematically they just FEEL like Haunted Woods, but given that Illusen's Glade is above Shadowglen it would actually make zero sense at all for that to be the case 🥲

(Unless the 3 lands are somehow more intertwined than the official globe map makes them appear to be, I mean what even is all the green space in between places, right?)

But I definitely agree that I love the TDF map for how detailed it is, it makes me want to adhere to it despite what the Neopia globe map would have me believe! I just like how it gives a realistic 3D depiction of an EXTREMELY 2D location!

[starbiology]

Oh you know what, its also possible the tdf version of the map is before Meridell, Brightvale, and Darigan citadel got yanked out of time. Roberta (and I think also Tor) were part of the original timelines that got brought into the future. As I dont think Neopia Central exists in TDF and so it should place Illusen's glade/ Lightwood forest where Neopia Central would be.

It would be amazing to see a full map of it in the TDF style! maybe one day

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Um, I may be wrong and just making stuff up. Though I'm pretty sure that Shadowglen woods is actually like a part of Illusens Glade, or at the very least it's like in Merridell territory. I'm pretty sure it says that in one of the Shadowglen lore books.

Also about Sophie, haha, you know how some people have summer houses? Maybe Sophie simply had a vacation home in Werelup Woods, which would be like part of Brightvale Territory and The Darkest Faerie started her invasion in the middle of that vacation Lol.

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I'm glotchimg out, I'm going crazy. I was gonna post some doodles I did, but my laptop crashed and half my drawing got deleted. Crying actual acid. World isn't on my side for posting art.