re ur tags, it's so disingenuous to ignore race when reading z's rejection of (white) indie rock. can't know what's in z's mind but it's valid to be petty & resentful after repressing for so long, whitewashed & silenced as part of 1D along w the good
yeeeee anon u get me! not that i agree w everything he’s said n done since leaving the band but i also didn’t agree w everything he said n did when he was in it so…? i dont understand other people, but my appreciation for him as a fan isnt contingent on those things necessarily (though obviously it depends on what the thing is).
when i wrote those tags i was thinking abt specific things he’d said: 1. the part of the fader interview where he talked about not thinking 1D’s music was “cool” & 2. the part of the billboard interview where he talks about what features he likes in a girl. tbqh i didn’t understand the backlash against the first one at all… if i were trying to impress a girl i wouldnt play 1d for her either, & i dare anyone to tell me that’s cos i secretly have a ton of internalised misogyny or w/e. i luv 1d and proudly wear my identity as a 1d fan irl but like there’s a time n place lol. + zayn has never seemed as invested in the band’s specific constructed identity as the rest of them–i always think about that part from the movie where he says s/th about how if someone gives him shit for being in a band he’d say “and i had a sick time, mate, so keep laughing” instead of a more “acceptable” answer which would be “there’s nothing wrong with being in a boy band” or “boy bands are cool” or whatever. he never loved the idea of the band, i think? he loved the idea of the five of them and he loved them and for a while he loved the attention, the money, the sex, and to a certain extent the music. and then the music faded and the attention was too much and the sex came back around to bite him (as he well deserved) and the money stopped being worth it. after that not even love can sustain you.
it also reminds me of what @fromward said in this post: Indie and alt-rock I think sometimes get taken as universal genres, but they’re not. They’re unmarked because the whiter things are, usually, the more unmarked they are. the connotation/implication of “unmarked” has resonated w me deeply since ofc it has all these associations of “purity” & “whiteness” in a racial sense and in a sense of, well, lack of “markings” (UGH I REREAD THIS SENTENCE AND IT MADE NO SENSE, what i mean is that “whiteness” can mean white like a blank page or an ‘unmarked’ space and it can also mean the racial/social construction of whiteness and the meaning of whiteness as a racial construction has a lot to do with the meaning of whiteness as something “unmarked”). it’s interesting cos zayn himself has expressed in various ways a desire to be unmarked or at least to only be marked on his own terms: he declined to discuss his religion in both the interviews and they’ve had to get quotes from random culture writers (not that i dont respect fariha roisin but honestly, she is not a 1d fan and she doesn’t understand his cultural positioning at ALL). it’s a marked change from early interviews, where he’s quite open about these things and shares and explains all the time. i said once that i admired his openness about it bcos it’s really difficult and wearing to constantly be in that position of cultural translator, even if the questions are well meaning & inoffensive, and i said maybe his being mixed had to do w how well he navigated it. now i wonder if he’s chosen to navigate it by never bringing it up?
it’s funny that you say petty or resentful, cos i actually agree w you that if he had been petty or resentful in public it’d be ok (though not terribly professional) to express that, but i don’t even think he’s been particularly petty or resentful? he’s been v transparent about his motives for leaving: he wasn’t making music that was cool or that reflected where he was from. people are reading that as aggressive or an attack which is…racialised (i overuse that word but oh my god it is). i think it’s also worth talking about what’s “professional” or “unprofessional” since i’ve seen that critique several times too. imo the person who has been the most unprofessional in talking about this whole thing has been…..harry. he hasn’t given a straight answer once and has made a joke of the entire thing. you can headcanon that response however you like but it’s lowkey disrespectful to act like that. even louis managed to be more normal about it. & yet zayn, in his transparency, is the “rude” or “unprofessional” one? gtfo. even when zayn expressed frustration, it was always with the management or the music, never with anyone in the band personally, & he made it clear his departure was for business, not personal, reasons.
to me it goes back to the idea that i expressed in the tags, that to be given basic humanity poc need to be Good, i.e. better than whites. that is we need to prove ourselves worthy (through words or actions) before whites will grant us the ~honour of being treated like people (though not equal people LOL). harry is allowed pettiness, louis is allowed resentment and anger, zayn is allowed…nothing apparently. it’s funny to me that a lot of louis stans (and granted i don’t follow most of em anymore cos i hate their opinions) often talked about loving louis and saying that he was trash in the same breath. no one has ever said that about zayn. to be loved he was loved because he had specific traits that were Good: gentle, kind, loving, tender, vulnerable, etc. no one ever said “i love zayn, my trash prince” (unless they were talking about him in tandem with louis (or sometimes harry)/talking about his friendship w louis, in which case association w whiteness made him acceptable). but i do luv zayn as my trash prince! i have long accepted that brown dudes are the objective Worst but they are my dudes and i love them beyond anything.
ANYWAY! I could talk for 50000 years about this but I seriously need to go to bed. but thank u for letting me have this little opportunity to ramble on, i appreciate it :)