ghost zy

haunting you from the shadows

[sammis-svsss-brainrot]

I'm on my first reread of SVSSS (aka my second time reading the books) and I cannot BELIEVE how genre aware Shen Qingqiu is while also managing to be the most oblivious

Like he understands tropes PERFECTLY, he can predict the outcome of almost any situation, however, because he vastly misunderstands the role he's playing (despite LITERALLY saying he's being wife plotted all the fucking time, it just doesn't get through) it just... Fucks everything up, it's so silly oh my god

I love this man so much he's such an enigma

[zykamiliah-temporal]

the thing that makes the romance plot such a delicious storytelling is that they're both, simultaneously, each other's love interest AND villain. at least up to the core detonation scene, and a little further as the misunderstandings persists, until sqq starts to really understand binghe and begins to accept him, which is a character arc that lasts well into maigu ridge. for a long time they both believe the other no longer loves them, because their actions are unforgivable in their own eyes, and they both think they have to make up for it. there's grief and self-loathing from both sides, anger when they think the other had lied to them or played with their feelings. they both believe the version of the story and the person that lives inside their heads: binghe thinks he's unlovable and that no one wants to stay by his side, thinks that sqq will always put others before him, and that sqq despises his demonic nature. and sqq believes binghe is the original pidw protagonist. this big misunderstanding is only solved at the very end, at which point they stop being each other's villain.

[most-tragic-character-tournament]

MOST TRAGIC TOURNAMENT: ROUND 5 SHEN JIU//ORIGINAL SHEN QINGQIU (THE SCUM VILLAIN’S SELF-SAVING SYSTEM) VS VERGIL (DEVIL MAY CRY)

Shen Jiu//Original Shen Qingqiu

Vergil

Voting ended onDec 1, 2023

PROPAGANDA UNDER THE CUT: [SPOILERS AND POSSIBLE TRIGGERS AHEAD]

SHEN JIU//ORIGINAL SHEN QINGQIU:

VERGIL:

[zykamiliah-temporal]

vote for shen jiu!!!!

[lovefrombegonia]

SVSSS headcanon: Yue Qingyuan can't sleep in complete darkness. He needs a small light to be able to fall asleep otherwise he gets night terrors.

[snailchimera]

Hi, I saw your question about the svsss translation in the tags and just wanted to say that one easy way you could check if the version you have is the official English translation would be to go listen to the first chapter of the fanmade audiobook and see if it's the same because that's based on the published version (the reading is by raitala and I pretty much always want to rec it if there's an opportunity sorry^^')

I remember that the first translation I came across nearly made me give up and svsss is now one of my favourite fandoms so I hope it's only a case of the translation you found being a bad version, but then again English isn't my first language so I may have a slightly higher tolerance for any stiltedness remaining in the official version. Best of luck in any case!

Thanks! See, the point I'm sticking on is that the translation I found was through Libby, so it should be official, because Libby is a system for checking ebooks out through your library. But Libby is also a part of Overdrive, a privately owned company that therefore isn't held to the same standards as a public library itself, and it was only a sample rather than a book actually made available through my library, so... I dunno, maybe I should doublecheck. Also I like your snail icon.

[zykamiliah-temporal]

How many chapters are in the book?

i have access to the three translation that have existed of svsss so i can help

[torchstelechos]

You must understand, if I start analyzing SVSSS again I will be entering my Shen Yuan/Peerless Cucumber kinnie era by factor of loving Luo Binghe too much

[zykamiliah-temporal]

and that's a bad thing????

[zykamiliah-temporal]

it drives me crazy that sqh's incredulity at the fact that bingmei can dedicate himself and be happy just doing mundane things like making noodles kind of parallels bingge's derision at the notion that his alternate self doesn't even have one wife. it also parallels sqq's own thoughts on the matter-- the fact that for some time it was shocking to him luo binghe was happier living a mostly domestic life than conquering the world.

it's about the toxic masculinity and shifting away from it. it's about realizing that the path of pride, doesn't lead to happiness

pursuing such path caused shen jiu's tragedy

pursuing such path made bingge miserable, even if he was late to know it

[zykamiliah-temporal]

SHANG QINGHUA: “And not only do I dare leave, I dare do other things, would you believe it? This peak lord will, right here, right now, beat you back for every time you beat him before!”

ORIGINAL LUO BINGHE: “Today, the humiliation this disciple once suffered will be returned one hundredfold. For injuring my hands and feet, I’ll tear off your limbs and grind them to dust.”

[zykamiliah-temporal]

Shen Qingqiu had the thinnest face! If you tore down his pretenses right in front of him, he would remember you for a lifetime. Shang Qinghua was already regretting the quip. But if a person like Shen Qingqiu—who had perfected the art of poserhood—was holding his book upside down, he really had to be incensed. That sounded about right. He had gone to all that trouble to do a good thing, but the result hadn’t met his expectations. But if that was the problem, then he should just go and explain himself to Liu Qingge—just admit he was trying to help him out! But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t do it. If you won’t do it, just let me help you explain, thought Shang Qinghua. But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t compromise his own pride. Maybe he was too embarrassed. People really shouldn’t twist themselves into knots—that’s just self-torture.

i love it when authors are 100% correct about their characters. look at him laying out the core of sj's tragedy for everyone to read

[zykamiliah-temporal]

Shen Qingqiu, as a person, was ambitious and aggressive, proud and arrogant. This wasn’t the first time he’d tried to force instant success. Maybe he had gone off to cultivate in secret again and had ended up falling into a qi deviation.

write that down

[zykamiliah-temporal]

Shang Qinghua couldn’t resist reminding him, “Shen-shixiong you… How many times did you lose?” Shen Qingqiu thought it over. “Hm? Mm, you’re asking about this morning? It was only seven or eight times.” Then how are you this calm?! Shouldn’t you be gnashing your teeth in fury, tears staining your face like raindrops on flower petals (ahem)—a cuckoo crying blood as you whip around to go back into seclusion for three months, swearing to duel again? Don’t you know you’re being OOC? Can’t you show a bit more dedication to your role?!

sj is so funny guys

[zykamiliah-temporal]

Shen Qingqiu had the thinnest face! If you tore down his pretenses right in front of him, he would remember you for a lifetime. Shang Qinghua was already regretting the quip. But if a person like Shen Qingqiu—who had perfected the art of poserhood—was holding his book upside down, he really had to be incensed. That sounded about right. He had gone to all that trouble to do a good thing, but the result hadn’t met his expectations. But if that was the problem, then he should just go and explain himself to Liu Qingge—just admit he was trying to help him out! But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t do it. If you won’t do it, just let me help you explain, thought Shang Qinghua. But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t compromise his own pride. Maybe he was too embarrassed. People really shouldn’t twist themselves into knots—that’s just self-torture.

i love it when authors are 100% correct about their characters. look at him laying out the core of sj's tragedy for everyone to read

[zykamiliah-temporal]

Shen Qingqiu, as a person, was ambitious and aggressive, proud and arrogant. This wasn’t the first time he’d tried to force instant success. Maybe he had gone off to cultivate in secret again and had ended up falling into a qi deviation.

write that down

[zykamiliah-temporal]

“If, in the future, you see someone fall into a qi deviation, don’t panic, and don’t rush up rashly thinking you can save them. You must stay calm and call for help; don’t try to do it yourself. If you don’t, you’ll definitely be more of a hindrance than anything, and you’ll make a big mess, and you’ll abandon yourself to despair from there on. You’ll never be free of it for the rest of your life—even jumping into the Yellow River won’t wash you clean!”

the biggest irony of SJ's life is that, after swearing he'd kill LQG one day, after playing dirty to get back at him, after hating him for so long, he'd come to regret LQG's death to the point it'd eat him alive

and the fact that he won't even attempt to defend himself at the trial-- man.

[zykamiliah-temporal]

Shen Qingqiu had the thinnest face! If you tore down his pretenses right in front of him, he would remember you for a lifetime. Shang Qinghua was already regretting the quip. But if a person like Shen Qingqiu—who had perfected the art of poserhood—was holding his book upside down, he really had to be incensed. That sounded about right. He had gone to all that trouble to do a good thing, but the result hadn’t met his expectations. But if that was the problem, then he should just go and explain himself to Liu Qingge—just admit he was trying to help him out! But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t do it. If you won’t do it, just let me help you explain, thought Shang Qinghua. But Shen Qingqiu wouldn’t compromise his own pride. Maybe he was too embarrassed. People really shouldn’t twist themselves into knots—that’s just self-torture.

i love it when authors are 100% correct about their characters. look at him laying out the core of sj's tragedy for everyone to read

[zykamiliah-temporal]

@fireandgrimstone asked a question: Somehow I never knew ur icon was Sasuke and now I feel like I really should have XD

in my bio there's a pin to the art post :DDDDDD i saw it one day and fell in love with the art. tamelee's style is just sooooo cool. before the sasuke art my pfp was that ninja guy sonic from one punch man

i can't recall if you've watched naruto?

[zykamiliah-temporal]

@fireandgrimstone "sasuke and his timeless romance with naruto" i love the way you say it lololol

[zykamiliah-temporal]

@fireandgrimstone asked a question: Somehow I never knew ur icon was Sasuke and now I feel like I really should have XD

in my bio there's a pin to the art post :DDDDDD i saw it one day and fell in love with the art. tamelee's style is just sooooo cool. before the sasuke art my pfp was that ninja guy sonic from one punch man

i can't recall if you've watched naruto?

[zykamiliah-temporal]

look at this. unfuckingbelievable

[zykamiliah-temporal]

@fireandgrimstone asked a question: Somehow I never knew ur icon was Sasuke and now I feel like I really should have XD

in my bio there's a pin to the art post :DDDDDD i saw it one day and fell in love with the art. tamelee's style is just sooooo cool. before the sasuke art my pfp was that ninja guy sonic from one punch man

i can't recall if you've watched naruto?

[zykamiliah-temporal]

You really thought I was some dumbass Mother Teresa who wouldn’t know to hit back when attacked?! You really thought carrying one person would weaken me to the point that I’d be incapable of slapping your cheek right back?! ch16: melting ice

you know sy haters haven't read the novel when they call sy "mother teresa", while sqq explicitly tells us readers that he's not mother teresa lol he's not a saint.

"sy is actually a bad person-" ah yes and sy!sqq will probably agree with you bc that's what he thinks of himself. he's unreliable like that lol

he'll hit you back if you hit him. he'll pay you back two-fold if you hit binghe or any of the people he cares about. apparently this makes him a bad person lol

[tamelee]

Hiiii 🥰 If yin HAD to choose some couples for the Next Gen which one would you choose? Personally I think Shikatema was a okay, but I don’t have any ideas for the others

Hi!~💕 Oh uhm-

No one really, I'd be happy to eradicate it all.

Obviously Naruto and Sasuke should've figured their shit out. Both internally and externally and then say; take it or leave it' to the entire village and system. You either going to get two gay-men leading the village and a new system because their bond was the entire answer against war or nothing at all and then just... die ig while Naruto sleeps his years away and Sasuke is stuck in a damn tree 🤷🏻‍♀️ 

Otherwise.... (aka, 'Boruto' meetings be like;) Shitpost (don't take me seriously);

Naruto and Gaara although it probably won't last long. Naruto'd probably settle for some black-haired girl and make her cut her hair so it reminds him of Sasuke if he squints really hard and doesn't think about it and covers his ears, oh wait-

Charasuke and Dark Naruto, fem version. Menma and Zetsu. Since non of it is Canon anyway, Sasuke and his pet lizard from the filler story. They seemed to have an 'okay' connection, yeah? Well, ShikaTema is fine, it's understandable and predicted. I don't even know who Kiba, Shino, Lee or Choji are with lmao. I can look it up, but... I really don't even remember :') I think one of them is with the Kumo girl, right? Sai and Kumo girl would've been better though. They can argue about loyalty and stuff. Wouldn't she kinda think it was hot how he stopped her fist from plunging into Naruto's 'refusing to talk about Sasuke's face?' That's the extend of their development, but it's 'Boruto', the bar is low here. Or.. if we ignore the homophobia for a second, Sai and Gaara. I mean whatever. Size matters obviously to Sai and Gaara had huge bde before his questionable haircut (no I don't think him becoming Kazekage made him weak) and I also don't think Gaara's lack of expressive emotion currently would be too overwhelming for someone that doesn't understand them much. Not a lot of energy in that relationship though but Gaara is very beautiful to draw let's be honest but the lack of eyebrow does make it challenging. Or Sai and Deidara. A bit difficult because one isn't there, but still, just throwing it out there. Or even Kankuro would be good. Gosh, Sai has so many options... and then he ended up with someone he thought was ugly ;-; (Ino is very beautiful though so he's wrong, but still.) Idk, I think Kiba should've married a cat-girl or the blonde one from Kumo. Lee should be with someone that appreciates effort especially now that his effort is proven absolutely worthless -.- and is seen as a loser again which destroyed the poor guy. Well, I wouldn't have minded Tenten, but... GaaLee 👌👀? Aren't they both single fathers? Or? Idk. Maybe Sai Gaara and Lee together, why not. Throw the Shi guy from Kumo in there also, he kinda looks like blonde Sai. Even Naruto thought he was handsome as he used him for inspiration for his sexy reversed harem Jutsu.  Actually, Tenten and Kotetsu would've been a good surprise. It makes no sense Canon-wise and I don't think it even works age-wise, but I approve otherwise and they're both weaponized. I rhyme and reason. Ino and Suigetsu. Okay, hear me out. He can water all her plants. That's all, that's it. Sakura and Kankuro? I mean, by 'Boruto's low standards, they could've made it work and they'd even have history. And fine, even Sasori could've been interesting a little. Or that girl from the Sound from the beginning. Or the guy. Or Kimimaro. Or Kabuto. We're not too difficult here, pick one, but I guess some are dead though. Everyone but Sasuke ffs. Obviously Neji should've lived. Well I'm okay with Tenten or even Lee, but it doesn't make too much sense to me. Actually, let's ship him with Haku for no other reason than them looking good together. Or Neji and Juugo, maybe Juugo'd be able to set the bird free iykwim. I'd say Hinata and her beloved 'Oro-chan'. (Yes she called him that in some novel.) Both creepy as hell. Except one of them is somewhat likable and it ain't Hinata. But age-wise that doesn't work. Or, maybe someone can make her a Mecha Naruto, that's a bit more appropriate. Not much, but still. I'm sure she has the money and I don't think she really minds because she knows Naruto as much as she'd know a robot version of him. I see no difference there. OR, Kankuro's puppet. That way she can always walk next to the one she 'loves' as it follows her anyway with some basic puppet training and have the sentimental wood around for comfort when she reminisces about the time she thought Naruto wasn't gay. No need to be shy either as it doesn't say much. Then Naruto can visit tree-Sasuke in peace without a creepy face glancing up at him from behind it only to be ignored anyway. 

Or maybe a lousy Daimyo because we can't have any less than a Hero or royalty for the princess, of course. CHOJI ACTUALLY should've married the daughter from the ramen stand. Idk her age though.. Or the owner of the BBQ restaurant? If he didn't already. Or, it would've been good if there was a younger version of Tsunade, I think they'd get along. Akamaru and one of Kakashi's dogs- sorry, Ninken. I think Pakkun is too old maybe. Idk what he's into. Maybe Punpun? Am I missing anyone? Oh lmao, Shino ;-; He would've been good with Fu, Jinchuriki of the 7-tails, the flying bug thing. Guess that's not possible either, but we can't have them single and focussing on the world either so... we gotta create imaginary filler babies somehow. Karin with that other guy who emphasized with her during her confession-thing. I mean, what other reason do you need. That's true love right there.  Kakashi and Shizune? Kakashi and Iruka? Kakashi and Gai? Kakashi and Genma? Kakashi and Obit- oh no. Kakashi and secret-ANBU waifu? Kakashi and actress of the movie adaptation of his ero-novel? Kakashi living his best aro life?

I mean, we could always create a card game if you will and match whatever comes up first. There'd be no difference really.

[zykamiliah-temporal]

apart from naruto and sasuke getting together, i'd be the happiest if the other couples had been saisaku, kibahina, InoCho. shikatema is fine but they didn't get much development so it ended up being quite stale

[raitala]

Vol.3 of SVSSS is go! Chapter 14 now uploaded on my Youtube channel and GDrive.

Hopefully all the DRAMA through this final volume will keep me recording chapters regularly, but encouragement is always welcome <3