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[abbaisy]

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im marrow, im 20

i post and reblog abbey x daisy

i tag my posts as "txt" for text and "img" for images/art and "rb" for reblogs

i dont always tag silly non-art posts

my favorite characters are abbey, daisy, stacy, and sam

ive been reading since unspoken rule

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[bittersweetcandybowl]

a long time ago, during one of yalls kickstarters, there was a lil meter at the top of the website that showed the kickstarter progress with daisy trying to get to the mall. it was very cute, i was wondering if there was a way to see it again, or if yall still has the assets :)

Veronica: Oh yeah those were fun little things! I miss having meters like that.. but that was before kickstarter and now kickstarter is our own meter!

I think maybe we have the assets for it still, but setting it up would be another matter entirely. Sorryyyyyy! ;__;

[abbaisy]

here anon

[itsaboutcats]

I came across Oliver's BCB art meme circa 2010, and I just about fell over laughing when I saw this:

Because oh my god. This was posted to the candybooru way back before "Mischief Night" started. And we've got quite the spoilers here:

Just Beautiful - 8/8/12

Ten Seconds to Midnight - 1/2/13

Breaking Up - 6/24/13

Class of 2008 - 6/5/15 (I think)

"At Loose Ends" - 4/2/12 (I think)

I'm admittedly not fully confident in the Abbey one as the image seems to be less of a direct analog than the others.

Anyways, the art meme provides an interesting peek into some pivotal moments in the comic and was published 1.5-5 years before the events in question. It's really cool to see how closely some of these early sketches aligned with the final panels.

[bittersweetcandybowl]

Veronica: I recall with that Abbey scene, it was meant to involve him feeling catharsis about finally getting closure.. but when I got to writing that sequence it just didn’t feel like it fit. I feel like Abbey could only feel.. bittersweet about it, lol.

This page is the closest to the vision I had, though he was originally meant to be talking to Daisy.

.. but I liked this sequence with Daisy more and felt it should end here

[itsaboutcats]

Paulo and Sue, and Sexism

Paulo is something of a lady's man, a flirt who hits on girls freely and attempts to charm them. He flirts with basically every girl that moves in middle school.

But he's never makes a pass at Sue, even though they were on pretty amicable terms all the way through freshman year and the beginning of sophomore year.

When pressed on his opinion of her as a romantic candidate, Paulo describes her as "kinda cute", but it seems really half-hearted, like he knows there's objectively nothing wrong with her appearance but he just isn't into her. Her personality's part of it, but that didn't stopped him from pursuing Katie, who he described as "selfish and bratty". Sue just isn't his type. Which is fine! There's nothing wrong with not being attracted to Sue, and she probably wouldn't appreciate his romantic advances.

But Paulo clearly treats Sue differently than her female peers. He's rude to her, casually disrespects her, and puts her down completely unprovoked in a way he just doesn't with the girls he likes, starting back long before his relationship with her truly became contentious:

So Paulo is rude to Sue and doesn't respect her. He's also a jerk to Abbey and Mike early on. But it can't be ignored that Paulo does not have any female peers he both respects and isn't attracted to. We can't extricate his treatment of Sue from his sexism:

Paulo says this to get a rise out of Mike, but it's very much at Sue's expense. He's reducing her to a sex object, with the implication that the only reason Mike would be inclined to do the play with her is for sexual reasons; Sue as a person or an artist has no merit. Paulo personally doesn't find her attractive, but he's still is reducing her to a sexual entity because he fundamentally doesn't respect women:

Paulo explicitly frames himself as valuing women's bodies and not their personalities, characterizing women as conquests and objects to be won by men. This is deeply gross and sexist. Even if we've seen him care about women in genuine ways, this is how he talks about them. He's broadcasting a worldview that values women based on how sexually desirable he finds them first and will only maybe consider them as people second. And it's not like these examples are all ancient history; two of these are from within the past year and reinforce that he still believes those earlier, nastier, explicitly stated positions.

And 4/5 of these examples happen in front of Sue. She's aware that this is how he thinks about women. And Paulo also has specifically attacked her body, the only metric he claims to value in women:

Sue is failing to live up to her ideals here; she thinks fatphobia is bad and is trying to discourage mocking people for being overweight, but she is still a teenage girl who is insecure about her own body. Paulo takes the opportunity to insult Sue's body in a scenario that will render her a hypocrite for being insulted by his insult. He's doubling down on the notion that it's okay to make fun of and not respect girls he doesn't think are attractive.

Paulo only has been shown to respect women he's attracted to, and he laughs at the idea of being attracted to Sue. That's part of why she gets so furious in response to his laughter.

Of course all of this is is going to make Sue think he's really sexist! Sue is overtly unimpressed by Paulo's objectification of women and is someone who thinks about gender politics.

And if you're Sue and Paulo has communicated that he only is willing to treat women well if he's attracted to them, the implication winds up being that he's never going to respect you, no matter what you do or say. But Sue so deeply wants to be respected. She can't debate her way into being respected with someone who's deeply sexist. Sue's not going to be vulnerable and ask for respect when Paulo's already given her an answer about how he sees her and women as a whole.

I think Sue commits so heavily to the position of "Paulo's and idiot and therefore undeserving of respect" in part because of this. If Paulo's never going to respect her, then she's never going to have to respect Paulo right back. She doesn't want to see qualities she respects in Paulo when he's positioned himself to never respect her.

The lack of respect obviously has exacerbated Sue's insecurities, and there's more that goes into their dynamic than this, but the sexist elements are palpable. Paulo may have grown a lot, and his treatment of women has improved significantly, but he still doesn't have any female peers he both respects and isn't attracted to and has started making up sexual scenarios to degrade, humiliate, or provoke women- including Sue.

Sue's ego taking a hit in a competition isn't going to fix her issues with Paulo; it's just going to make her feel worse about how Paulo doesn't respect her. Paulo needs to extend respect to Sue to actually break this paradigm. I believe he's capable of it; he just has to prove it.

[abbaisy]

thinking about stacys very brief longer hair that appears in one chapter and a couple merch items from that time period........its so cute

[abbaisy]

so cute so cute...........

[iggy-666]

happy 20th anniversary to my favorite webcomic ever 🤍🩶🧡💛

[abbaisy]

that me

[abbaisy]

i love these daisies........so cute

[abbaisy]

important update: marriage

[abbaisy]

dating now

[abbaisy]

they are here

[abbaisy]

remembering during the drawstream for the "cast gets headpats" minicomic, taeshi said abbey is probably self conscious of his ears. so thats why he responds kind of shyly

but theyre also something daisy really likes and finds cute about him!!!! i think about that a lot because its so sweet

[abbaisy]

omg im incorporating this into my art at some point 🥹🥹🥹🥹cute

[abbaisy]

yay art

[abbaisy]

theyre so cute in these outfits 🥹🥹🥹🥹

[abbaisy]

so that omnibus 2 bonus chapter huh