La Niña Mestiza

Mexican. Lesbian not LGBT. Transactivism is a bad 'first world/white people problems' meme. Leave Lesbians alone 2k22. Males (MtF, AMABs, trans women) keep sucking your dicks and go somewhere else. 

[wahbegan]

The argument, however niche (it’s very niche) appearing for the first time in human history that people can and should be attracted to one another regardless of biological sex is a direct result of kids forming friendships, relationships, and entire communities and social circles with people they’ve never met online, resulting in a whole group of kids who think of people as disembodied concepts and selfies and personal posts. In this essay, I will-

[bodenor]

OP please keep writing

[wahbegan]

Okay, uhh…uhh…hmmm, outline, outline, outline…

The rise of internet activism/”slacktivism” 

The demographic of tumblr being largely the socially outcast and/or maladjusted and younger people/teenagers

the effect this has on their irl sexual activity or lack thereof, and confusing, fluid sexual desires

The normalization via various hook-up, dating, camming, etc. sites of becoming attracted to people via the internet

INHERENT DIFFERENCES IN FINDING SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE ONLINE AND ACTUALLY MEETING THEM

Sex in theory vs. sexual reality

How many young people don’t understand that how someone presents online is often not an accurate portrayal, physically or emotionally, of who they are

“Trans women are women/Trans men are men”: a brief history of how attempts to ease dysphoria have turned over time into making it deliberately difficult to separate trans people from the gender they identify as

The unfortunate implications this has on consent

Tying it all together: Confused young people, who are often isolated from their peers and trying on genders and sexualities like new styles as they grapple with their identity and puberty, are finding themselves attracted to carefully created and maintained online personas. These kids then, with the best of intentions, read about the struggle for trans acceptance and, failing to understand the multi-faceted nuances of real physical sex with someone, create rhetoric based around the validation of someone’s gender identity through sexual contact without understanding the gravity of what they’re suggesting

[acutelesbean]

[acutelesbean]

honestly the whole identity movement sounds like nothing but excuses to create tension between people not to actually create solutions. the whole identity movement is an alt righ movement disguised as liberal 

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[wahbegan]

The argument, however niche (it’s very niche) appearing for the first time in human history that people can and should be attracted to one another regardless of biological sex is a direct result of kids forming friendships, relationships, and entire communities and social circles with people they’ve never met online, resulting in a whole group of kids who think of people as disembodied concepts and selfies and personal posts. In this essay, I will-

[bodenor]

OP please keep writing

[wahbegan]

Okay, uhh…uhh…hmmm, outline, outline, outline…

The rise of internet activism/”slacktivism” 

The demographic of tumblr being largely the socially outcast and/or maladjusted and younger people/teenagers

the effect this has on their irl sexual activity or lack thereof, and confusing, fluid sexual desires

The normalization via various hook-up, dating, camming, etc. sites of becoming attracted to people via the internet

INHERENT DIFFERENCES IN FINDING SOMEONE ATTRACTIVE ONLINE AND ACTUALLY MEETING THEM

Sex in theory vs. sexual reality

How many young people don’t understand that how someone presents online is often not an accurate portrayal, physically or emotionally, of who they are

“Trans women are women/Trans men are men”: a brief history of how attempts to ease dysphoria have turned over time into making it deliberately difficult to separate trans people from the gender they identify as

The unfortunate implications this has on consent

Tying it all together: Confused young people, who are often isolated from their peers and trying on genders and sexualities like new styles as they grapple with their identity and puberty, are finding themselves attracted to carefully created and maintained online personas. These kids then, with the best of intentions, read about the struggle for trans acceptance and, failing to understand the multi-faceted nuances of real physical sex with someone, create rhetoric based around the validation of someone’s gender identity through sexual contact without understanding the gravity of what they’re suggesting

[8bitlora]

You’re missing a step: - Transactivists who definitely do understand the gravity of what they’re suggesting jump on the wagon

[pervert420]

also, teens/young adults not finding a distinction between finding someone likeable platonically (or ‘aesthetically’) and liking someone sexually/romantically.

[ophelias-revenge]

Yall are on a roll here

[st-mchn]

This is fascinating and excellently reasoned stuff. And now I’m intrigued about the possibility of like.. crowdsourcing the writing of an essay? bc everyone here is so fuckin smart coming out with good quality observations lightning fast I wanna see what all these replies would look like as one cohesive piece of writing

[gcdk]

Can I add porn? Young people’s formative sexual experiences are manual hyperstimulation to hardcore porn, sometimes itself very niche.

Literally orgasming on cue to very specific stimulus either after hours of edging or a few short minutes of viewing and wanking.

Neither physically equates to having sex with another person, there is zero concept of pleasing the other person, especially for boys. Girls are taught to withstand pain and discomfort and to look aesthetically pleasing (however a girl masturbating to violent porn isn’t feeling physical pain). There’s a physical disconnect - this is visual input, manual output, orgasm. Boom.

Now add in the dimension of cartoon porn or furry porn. It’s even further removed from real life.

The experience is visual > masturbation > orgasm and when the visual input can be anything from a dog suit to tentacle porn the concept of having an actual sexual orientation that means you are attracted to and can fall in love with people of the same sex or opposite sex seems a million miles away. Actual sex, when it happens, can be used to live out visual fantasies thought up by a pornographer, or to tick things off a list.

Other people being disembodied concepts remains a problem outside of sex, as niche interests and 24/7 internet access mean never having to have a boring conversation with someone who isn’t into what you’re into. Empathy drops when you never encounter anyone different to you.

When empathy drops and young people compartmentalise themselves, making their entire raison d'etre about some fandom or some game, they are themselves isolated and vulnerable. Predators who know which buttons to push can easily take advantage of isolated, lonely, touch starved young people who can’t interact with others and feel that nobody understands them. Also add in that most young people will have viewed porn since childhood, meaning that their boundaries are not firmly set and they might already be traumatised by what they’ve seen.

Who lurks online? Well, all of us, but in terms of predator we know the paedophile lives on the internet. We know that there is a link between autogynephiles and IT jobs. We know men who spend a lot of time online spend a lot of that time on porn.

Who builds the communities and social circles online? Who creates the opportunity for traumatised young people to interact with predators, who ensures the culture online is that of total sexual acceptance of everything? Who encourages children and young people to post nudes? Who hacks or releases homemade sex tapes to the world?

Who grooms children online and then meets them in real life?

Basically, who benefits from young people being this fucked up?

[themindbunker]

And not just porn, but also increasingly specific fanfics that allow the reader a chance to voyeuristically and vicariously “”“experience”“” sexual situations in a way that feels safe (in that it’s “just” words on a screen)- except then readers become accustomed to certain dynamics and become frustrated when real life doesn’t live up (the fujoshi phenomenon).

Moreover, online role playing really does fuck with a person (especially a young person!)’s idea of what sex is supposed to be like, including (but not limited to) things like timing, attraction, and boundaries. It’s one thing to type *explicit sex act,* and another entirely to perform. This virtual rehearsal may lead inexperienced participants (and some experienced participants, too!) to expect themselves to be more comfortable with certain acts than they actually are, and the dissonance of finding that you’re not actually into [insert online kink/fetish/sex act here] irl is deeply jarring- participants may force themselves to proceed under the faulty logic that if they like it online, there must be something actually desirable about the actual act.

Please tag/dm me if crowdsource essay is a thing!! I wanna read it :)

[vintage-bentley]

Having a gender non conforming (GNC) character who is a masculine woman or feminine man, will always be far more valuable and important than having a GNC character that is “nonbinary”. It shows viewers that there are many ways to be a woman or man, not that stepping outside of traditional gender roles renders you not actually a woman or man at all. It fights against gender roles, instead of just creating new ones.

You will never see me assuming that a GNC woman isn’t a woman, or that a GNC man isn’t a man, because that assumption is sexist and regressive, as it implies that there is only a certain degree that a woman can be GNC before she’s no longer a woman, and that there is only a certain degree that a man can be GNC before he’s no longer a man. It’s a strict enforcing of gender roles, and that doesn’t change just because you slap they/them pronouns on it.

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[queerism1969]

[homemasc-deactivated20220915]

And he still wouldn't be transphobic even if it did worry him because sexuality is innate and based on biology, not identity.

[crazyalien87]

[sunn-bunny]

most of the effects of HRT are in fact reversible during the first year you troglodyte. you claim to be pro science pro biology but know nothing about what these life saving medicines do.

From a ProTrans Site

Transmen:

Some of the effects of hormone therapy are reversible, if you stop taking them. The degree to which they can be reversed depends on how long you have been taking testosterone. Clitoral growth, facial hair growth, voice changes and male-pattern baldness are not reversible.

(Not shown but on the site: it can cause cancerous conditions in you uterus, vaginal atrophy, high blood pressure and heart problems)

Moids:

Many of the effects of hormone therapy are reversible, if you stop taking them. The degree to which they can be reversed depends on how long you have been taking them. Some breast growth, and possibly reduced or absent fertility are not reversible.

(I didn't care enough about moids to look more)

Now tell me is it mostly reversible or do you only consider males?

[radicalitch]

here’s my perspective:

liberal feminism is individualist. it affirms anything a woman does out of choice regardless of the impact of said choice. for example, if a woman chooses to appear in hardcore pornography, great! she chose it! liberal feminism neglects to look at the impact of such actions—young boys and men see this, fetishize it, expect women to enact it in real life. young women and girls see it, think that maybe it’s worth a try because that other woman enjoys it, think there’s something wrong with them for not enjoying it, and possibly get hurt.

radical feminism is not individualist. it is collectivist. in the case of hardcore pornography used above, radical feminism doesn’t care that one individual woman said she liked being in porn. it doesn’t matter because of the great majority of women and girls that are trafficked, raped, abused, and murdered for men’s sexual gratification. it doesn’t matter because of all of the harm the industry does to women and girls at large. the choice of one doesn’t matter when it adds to the collective harm of women as a marginalized class.

radical feminism recognizes women as a sex-based marginalized class. as radical feminists, we have to examine what harms women as a class, not as individuals. liberal feminism—pervasive mostly in the western, developed world—focuses on individual harm, individual autonomy, while failing to realize that a great number of women around the globe do not even have the ability to be autonomous, let alone determine what they do or do not want to do with their lives.

if a majority of women involved in the porn industry are being harmed by it, does it matter that a minority say they enjoy it? if a majority of women are harmed by beauty standards and the beauty industry, does it matter that some women like wearing makeup and shaving their body hair? if a majority of women seek safety in female-only spaces, does it matter that some women don’t care for them? why are a small number of women—mostly white, upper-middle class, western, straight, femininity supporting women—praised for being and claim to be feminists when all they do is reinforce patriarchal values and neglect a majority of their sisters around the world?

more than that, why do liberal feminists not care to do any real analysis of the structures that harm women if a few women claim to enjoy it? why are they mainly listening to the “sex work is work!” crowd and not the countless numbers of women who were traumatized by the industry? why, as a culture, are we prioritizing patriarchal and capitalist values and proclaiming them as feminist? why do liberal feminists not think beyond their relatively small western bubble? why are the reasons for willingly entering the porn industry, per se, (i.e. childhood sexual abuse) not considered? why are the repercussions not considered?

one of my main beliefs is that no woman has a choice until all women have a choice. i don’t care if a relatively small number of white western women (the majority that i see supporting liberal feminism, and also trans rights activists) ‘enjoy’ commodifying themselves because the majority of women don’t have the choice to be commodified. i don’t care if a woman likes wearing makeup because the makeup industry harms women. i don’t care if you choose to reinforce the patriarchy because your privilege protects you from a great deal of its harm because this choice of yours gives men more reason to believe that women enjoy enforced femininity, objectification, abuse, rape, so on and so forth. your choice is meaningless because none of us live in a vacuum.

unless all women are liberated, no woman is liberated. we should prioritize our work around our sisters of all colors, from all parts of the globe whose sex prevents them from having many of the choices we do in the west. we should use our choice to have a voice to uplift the voices of women without such privilege.

[welcome-to-the-holonet]

Happy ace day y’all 💜🖤🤍

[acutelesbean]

flat out non-sensical

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

Links:

https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/middle-east/2014/10/19/-Bad-hijab-link-to-acid-attacks-on-Iranian-women

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4002891

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1660041

https://en.radiofarda.com/amp/three-women-sentenced-to-55-years-for-defying-compulsory-hijab-in-iran/30088712.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3kIJd-_yiY

“hIjAb iS a cHoIcE!!!1!”

Sure, and look at the options.

EDIT: As this has gotten some attention, I just want to add some important links:

Yasmine Mohammed’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx

Her Free Hearts Free Minds foundation: https://freeheartsfreeminds.com

Free Hearts Free Minds Patreon: https://patreon.com/FreeHeartsFreeMinds

#FreeFromHijab: https://twitter.com/hashtag/FreeFromHijab

[d3nt4l-d4m4g3]

Jesus they're actually teaching Contrapoints' shit in colleges now??

At least my philosophy professor (of phenomenology) is. I think he genuinely believes this postmodern bullshit, unlike some teachers who are just trying avoid this decade's McCarthyism. Once he said that it's ableist to assume that humans are bipedal because "some people are in wheelchairs".

Bless his heart (derogatory)

[maleswillbemale]

Man, the closest to a ‘golden age’ of being a homosexual must have been the late 2000′s, early 2010′s…I remember being a young teen going through the realization that I was gay and going online to spaces where it was actually okay in their eyes to be a homosexual.

So many YouTubers who were based around serious and light-hearted discussions about being lesbians really helped me, as well as seeing gay men express themselves since that helped me learn more about the LGB community. I felt like things were looking up for us and that even though being gay was different and could sometimes be scary, there would always be this community to back each other up. It was going to be okay to be a gender non-conforming lesbian, because the older women I saw on my laptop screen were trying to make it so.

And then in about 2015-2016, something shifted right before my eyes. It’s not like the trans community didn’t exist before - I knew them well enough, and was 100% supportive of them, but they had grown much louder. I think the most damning thing for me personally was watching all the lesbian idols I had come to know on places like YouTube started coming out as trans men or nonbinary. I couldn’t help but feel a bit disappointed each time, even though I had been taught by now that this feeling of disappointment was “transphobia”. These were my role models, my only connection to gender non-conforming females since I lived in a small conservative town in the armpit of Florida.

I tried to be supportive all the same, even though it seemed like every day those channels I watched or blogs I read started to disappear or change themselves to being about exclusively trans topics. It was like these people thought that the legalization of gay marriage in America was the end-all to oppression or issues for homosexuals, and so they had to move on to the next thing. I felt frustrated, but also pressured to joining the bandwagon, accepting that trans people were the oppressed now, and “cis” gay people had power over them even if it didn’t make much sense to me.

I wish I could go back to those times. Most libfems and tras really think that because gays can marry now and sometimes commercials on TV will show a gay couple, they don’t need to care about us anymore. But I’m still here. There’s plenty of people still here. This is a very America-centered post as well, since I’m sure the experience of anyone outside of it may be different, but my personal experience really opened my eyes to the trans community and their ‘allies’. Greedy consuming erasers.

[susansontag]

when people talk of female socialisation they’re not saying there is one universal female experience that all women have that is exactly the same… they’re saying that in every society women are socialised into a role that is intended to ensure our subjugation and keep us subservient to men. and all women share in this experience, despite its infinite variations cross-culturally: we are intended to be second-class citizens and that’s easier to maintain if we are socialised as such.

[graceofgosh]

these are literally just. mental illnesses not sexualities im not even joking u need therapy and not a little flag and a funny greek word to call yourself

[zagreus]

remember "q slur" discourse?

[zagreus]

17 year olds deep in high school conformist herd mentality saying "i don't want to be represented by a word that means weird" like come on don't you see that it's cool to be weird? epic to be strange? sexy as hell to be fucked up and perhaps even a little bizarre? feel how affirming it can be to claim that for yourself, to embrace what makes you peculiar in other people's eyes and say "yeah, so? i am what i am and you will accept it"

[bff0f7]

y'all have absolutely no empathy for the generations of gay people up to still to this day who were and are out here getting harassed and the shit beat out of them and straight up murdered for being queer huh, like next time instead of calling me a conformist for not wanting to be called something my dad used to beat my ass with or was bullied in school with and not just for being "lol quirky weird" just say you're sheltered. it isn't queer as in weird it's queer as in you're subhuman and you deserve to be treated as such you fucking moron, not all of us get the luxury or being "weird" freely.

reclamation is only as impactful as the word has impacted you and given the way you seem to believe everyone who is called a slur is only receiving that because they're "peculiar" and not because they're seen as subhuman for their gender or sexuality, something tells me you're reclaiming a word you think is funny and silly and not reclaiming your right to exist as a human being free from harassment

[sheepsbian]

i have known 17 year olds in the last few years still getting called "fucking q***r" by peers on the bus and in school and were lucky if that wasn't followed up with physical harassment. absolutely goddamn callous to pretend they're just uneducated dweebs who don't want to be ~weird~. "remember q slur discourse" there's only discourse because you jackasses have no sense of basic respect or compassion for people other than yourselves.

[meangirlnurse]

what really gets me about this is that….the people who really really want to call me a queer against my will? they have to lie to support their beliefs.

OP very intentionally misrepresents the reason people don’t want to be called a violent slur and claims we ~just don’t want people to think we’re weird~ when they are clearly familiar enough with the conversation to know that people typically don’t want to be called queer because they’re traumatized.

it’s the same as people claiming that “not wanting to be called queer” is a vast secret TERF conspiracy.

because if they say the truth out loud, they sound really, really fucking bad.

so they lie. and they do it on purpose.

if you find you have to lie to make yourselves not sound horrible, maybe it’s time to reevaluate your perspective.