I don’t hate Tony but so many anti-Steve people use civil war as their reasoning to hate him. With that logic that means they agree with the accords right? The suppressive accords that aim to take the rights of mutants/enhanced individuals away... Unless that’s what they think is right 👀 It’s just so weird the way they hate on Steve for going against the accords like he should have. The accords are total shit and horrible. Sorry for the rant!!
You’re fine, ranting against anti Steve people is always welcomed and encouraged in these parts.
Look, Steve was not opposed to the idea of some form of accountability. He was opposed to the form it took. He was worried, fucking rightfully, since it’d only been 2 years since the Nazis running the government thing hit, that they might end up answering to the wrong people. That innocent people who weren’t Avengers, who couldn’t fight back like Avengers, would have their rights, their lives stripped away by the wrong people.
And the pro Accords, pro-Tony people never want to talk about how devious Tony was there. AoU? Goes behind the team’s back and creates the murder bot. Then, what, a year later, if that? He blindsides them with the Accords. And yes, he does blindside them, because it was what, a month between Lagos and Ross showing up? That was a huge ass document. They spent time on that. Not nearly as much time as they should have, for a policy that affects potentially millions of people, but anyway. Tony knew Ross was showing up that day with this. Steve and the others did not.
There’s a gif set of that scene, that moment where Ross is briefing them about this and Steve looks at Tony, and someone had captioned it, ‘Steve looking to Tony for guidance’ or something very, very close to that.
Everybody’s got their own read, but also, no. Steve was not looking at Tony for guidance. He was looking at Tony like, really man? Again? Again, you go behind our backs and hit us with this?
If he’s so sure what he’s doing is right, why didn’t he tell the team about it weeks ago? If he’s so assured in his moral high ground, why let them hear it from Ross, and then try and guilt trip them over the death of a boy that he himself caused?
Tony blames the team. We dropped a building on him. Charles Spencer’s mother does not blame the Avengers.
“He’s dead Stark. And I blame you.”
Zemo blames the whole team. Charles Spencer’s mom blames Tony. Yet Tony uses Charles as a guilt trip, emotional manipulation against the others.
If the Accords are so good and right, why did Tony hide them? Could it be because he didn’t want the others to have proper time to have an actual discussion about it, as opposed to them being backed into a corner, sign right now, or else?
People who truly believe in the rightness of their cause don’t hide it from others, especially supposed friends and teammates.
Not that it matters, since the Accords ended up mattering fuck all narratively in the long term, but there is rightness in accountability. Laws should reflect the times and circumstances we live in so yeah, there should have been something on the books that related to enhanced people.
The bill they put forth? That giant bill that they put together in a few weeks, in a panic reaction after an admittedly horrible incident? That was not it. That’s why Steve said he didn’t think it was impossible, but there would have to be safeguards. Steve wasn’t saying fuck all of you, I’m Cap, I will never follow any laws . He was saying that this particular law, in this form, was unconstitutional and unjust, and he was right.
