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Well I finished my stolitz fic with all three âĽď¸
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i've seen it pointed out here and there, but the closest thing adult stolas wears to his teen outfit is the outfit from 'ozzie's'.
and between this, and the reveal that the light streak in his hair was always there but hidden by magicâŚ
and his sad confession in 'apology tour'âŚ
i think it has become increasingly clear that in 'ozzie's', stolas wanted to play out a fantasy. but not a fantasy out of a romantic movie or a telenovela, but his own personal fantasy, of showing someone who he really is, and being accepted for it. he wasn't thrusting some romantic role on blitzo, he was just trying to be his most authentic self, and hoped blitzo would want him.
and it went spectacularly wrong.
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Omg its been so damn long since we saw our precious gay owl. I miss him so much đđŤ
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I am so serious when I ask who the fuck allowed him to drive
Bear in mind this is the first time we've seen Blitzø wear a seatbelt đ
Stolas bowing to Blitz
And he did it in front of every deadly sin.
I love the Paimon couldn't beat this out of him.
Honestly, I kinda love that Stolas being a snarky boy made Blitz really smile.
Bad day for both of them but Blitz can't help smiling at Stolas.
frilly gothy new wave nose piercing teen stolas is the only thing I'm gonna think about for the next 5-7 business months sorry
Just from the trailer alone, S3 Stolitz is giving...
Stolas: "wow I'm just in the way I'm just a burden. I should disappear from these people's lives"
Blitz: "so I was thinking black roses for the altar so the blood will still be in theme in if I suddenly need to kill someone"
Blitz bringing back plants from missions so that Stolas can have his little garden is likely canon now omfg THIS CARING BF///////////////
Deeply funny that, in the teen flashback of Stolas looking The Most edgy and emo with his swoopy bangs and beak piercing, he's hanging out with Vassago. Like ofc Vassago looked at this guy:
And fifteen years later witnessed all this:
And surely must just believe Stolas is utterly dramatic and lacks any amount of chill???
The two times we know Vassago has seen him, he's pulling an evil little grin and bouncing around with his dark magic đ. This is emo theatre kid to a - literally - terminal degree.
Stolitz Vs Toxicity
Since watching helluva boss, I've seen a lot of debate/deconstruction around stolitz. The relationship starts off as transactional with a major power imbalance, leading some people to label Stolas as an abuser. This idea is predicated on the idea that he's forcing Blitzø into sex and using his status to pressure him.
This take is... Woefully misinformed, in my opinion. Not only does it ignore the text of the show, but it also dilutes terms like rape & assault when applied incorrectly like this. That is not to say that Stolitz have a healthy relationship! But that looking at it in such extreme terms exclusively misses a lot of the show's intentional nuance.
The Full Moon Deal
A lot of anti-Stolas sentiment comes from the full moon deal, which he puts in place during ep1 (Murder Family). Canonically, we know that he and Blitzø have already had sex on at least two occasions before this (in Mission Zero and The Circus flashback) but this is where the terms of their sexual relationship are clearly defined. They're quite simple:
1. Blitzø gets to use the grimoire
2. Stolas and Blitzø have sex every month
This is a clear example of unfair pressure which is absolutely an unhealthy, toxic dynamic. It sets up the situation that Blitzø's business is reliant on him having sex with Stolas. Thus, he cannot reasonably consent to the sex because he might be concerned about adverse consequences.
Except... This surface level reading ignores a lot of what we actually see on screen.
Firstly, Blitzø is not afraid to reject Stolas. He does so multiple times in season 1:
As early as ep2, Blitzø tells Stolas that he's not interested in sleeping with him and that he should find someone else. In ep7, he refuses him again, telling him he's "not in the mood".
Resultingly - despite the potential for a coercive sexual dynamic - Blitzø doesn't appear to consider himself in any danger when he does reject Stolas. The relationship IS unhealthy but it is not one where Blitzø doesn't have the agency to consent/withdraw consent.
Furthermore, by S2 the deal is essentially done away with. After that ep7 moment where Blitzø gives Stolas insight into how he's feeling, Stolas realises that he's been treating Blitzø badly. The moment he overcomes his own ignorance, his approach to their relationships entirely shifts. From that point forward, he offers Blitzø an excuse for every full moon and resolves their power dynamic by giving him the crystal. Stolas pretty much removes any of the control he had over Blitzø; that is not the behaviour of intentionally abusive person.
Mission Zero
As the new pilot, Mission Zero gives clarity on the early dynamic with the benefit of hindsight. It presents the toxicity of their relationship but - much like S1 itself - maintains that neither Stolas nor Blitzø are unapologetically cruel in their treatment of one another.
To start, this is really the only time we see Blitzø be genuinely afraid of Stolas. At this point, they have only had sex once and Blitzø does not have a read on Stolas' personality. Despite that, he once again has no issue rejecting his initial sexual advances:
As you can see, he was frightened enough of Stolas as a physical threat to already be packing his things, but once Stolas "flirts" with him, Blitzø hangs up without hesitation. There's no deal to tie them together and, if anything, Stolas is presently a victim to Blitzø since Blitzø has stolen his grimoire. Aside from excessive vulgarity, Stolas doesn't do anything wrong in this moment.
However, he does continue to push and portals to the office. After some back and forth, he wears Blitzø down -
For me, this is a good example of realistically poor form from Stolas. His behaviour (even without the deal) pressures Blitzø after he's already made his disinterest obvious. Blitzø relenting and saying "you know what fine, you win" is not enthusiastic consent.
(That said, Blitzø does like to present as nonchalant, but Stolas doesn't know him well enough to know that yet so this point still stands).
The deal isn't the sole factor in their unhealthy relationship. It's them ignoring one another's boundaries; which Stolas is not exclusively to blame for.
Blitzø
It's rather easy to see that Stolas is more powerful than Blitzø (physically, financially, even racially) and to presume Blitzø could not force him into anything. After all, Stolas is comically obsessed and very eager every time he's on screen. However, Blitzø is also at fault for the toxic way their relationship began:
In The Circus flashback, we see their initial reunion. While Stolas flirts first, Blitzø is the one who makes it physical. As soon as Blitzø reciprocates (and describes his career as a professional killer), Stolas rescinds his consent and becomes visibly uncomfortable. We know that there are ways an imp could hurt a Goetia and Stolas, a victim of domestic abuse, cannot be faulted for feeling intimidated here.
All the while, Blitzø is trying to steal from him! He's explicitly using sexual attention to distract and manipulate Stolas. This is their first sexual encounter and Stolas' (presumably) first time having sex in several years. In a childish world where we must point out blame, it would fall squarely upon Blitzø.
However, it is clear that Blitzø didn't plan to actually have sex with Stolas (though that does not change the harassment) and Stolas does end up liking how the night goes. The way Blitzø acted is still unfair, though.
This further complicates their full moon deal. Yes, Stolas uses the grimoire to bargain for sex, but Blitzø steals the grimoire first. The alternative solution would be Stolas just taking the grimoire back and possibly turning Blitzø in for the robbery. Though Stolas sets out the exact terms of their deal, it's Blitzø during Mission Zero who originally suggests he should get to keep the grimoire for "ploughing [Stolas] on company time". This line sets up the idea of trading sexual favours.
Blitzø is also rather sexually aggressive after they "break-up", evident in the opening of Apology Tour:
During this conversation, Stolas has already expressed his discomfort and said he does not want to "do sex" with Blitzø. Blitzø then continues to pressure him, grab him, and describe "fucking" him.
This is not particularly surprising. Blitzø is overly sexual in many instances and sexually harasses M&M throughout the show, only reflecting during Ghostfuckers. In ep1 - when he's angry with Moxxie for messing up their job - he threatens to "fuck [him] and his wife" if Moxxie steps out of line again.
None of this is to say that Blitzø is villainous either. Just that both sides must taken in account if such an accusation is to be levelled at Stolas.
The Other Instances
Besides all of this, Helluva Boss does show other unhealthy, explicitly non-consensual instances between Stolas and Blitzø with other characters.
Most plainly, we have Stella:
Since they're in a forced marriage where a child is expected, neither Stolas nor Stella can actually consent. Knowing Stolas is a gay man only makes this clearer. What pushes Stella from a fellow victim to a simultaneous perpetrator is her ridicule of Stolas. She berates him in public and laughs at this traumatising encounter. She is also constantly verbally abusive and physically abusive, throwing things at him and hitting him. While she might not be independently powerful enough to cause lasting damage, the assassin that she orchestrates does hospitalise Stolas.
Blitzø's example is not as overt but it's still relevant to discuss:
During s2ep3, Blitzø chooses to have sex with Chaz. We hear their intercourse, in which Blitzø tells Chaz to "slow down" and Chaz calls him a "bitch" for, essentially, not being able to handle him sexually. While Blitzø initially consented, his needs aren't taken into account during the act and it's clearly a painful night.
Chaz then drugs and traps Blitzø afterwards.
The way Stolas and Blitzø respond in these situations are not how they respond to one another. They're much more comfortable with each other and have far more development as 'Stolitz'. Their relationship might not be healthy, however it should be treated with nuance.
Conclusion
It's reductive to label Stolitz as solely toxic and especially harmful to plaster either character with ill-fitting labels like "rapist" and "abuser" when the show's writing demonstrates far more depth. Neither of them are comparable to characters like Valentino in Hazbin Hotel.
Even so, their imbalanced dynamic should not be overlooked. Both Stolas and Blitzø engage in behaviour that cause significant stress & pain to a person they care about. This has not been resolved as of the end of season 2. Rather, the events of Mastermind forced them into close proximity and their relationship and "break-up" have not been discussed since.
Without addressing these elements, they're very likely to fall into the same patterns in s3. With Stolas homeless and powerless, the power dynamic has flipped. If he and Blitzø restart their sexual relationship without communicating, it might be difficult for Stolas to make his own needs heard when another break-up might lead to him being kicked out and fired from I.M.P. Similarly, Blitzø might still feel the pressure from their previous deal and have difficulty separating his new relationship with Stolas from their old transactional one.
Overall... They need to talk.
Stolas art
So so interesting that Stolas had Octavia when he was 18/19 and it's never explicitly stated but it absolutely informs their entire relationship.
Like. He was barely older than Octavia is now!! She's (reasonably) an immature kid since she's 17 but Stolas was only a year older when he became a father. A year doesn't magically transform a person from a literal child to a whole adult. It's hard to hold Stolas' parenting to a particularly high standard when that's the start he had.
But let's deconstruct: Stolas has no idea how to parent. We never see his mum and his father is laughably emotionally neglectful & practically absent. Stolas goes from a teenager with zero friends or positive role models to a teenager with an abusive wife and an infant. And also still zero friends/role models. Yet, from what we see, it's clear Stolas follows some tenants of parenting in those early days:
He's very present! Likely to an overbearing degree. His father was never around so Stolas develops a co dependent relationship with Octavia. Stella isn't interested in caring for her (seen in the ep2 flashback & portraits) so Stolas does most of the parenting.
That said... He doesn't act like a parent in a lot of ways. He's protective & comforting & kind, absolutely, but Stolas doesn't have the emotional maturity to instill into Octavia. He's pretty much flying blind in that aspect, leading to her developing a lot of the same complexes he has despite (on the surface) a less lonely childhood. We see that very plainly in Sinsmas (excellently explained in 3BSkyen's video!!)
Anyway - this early stage of Octavia's life is pretty easy for Stolas in comparison to the rest. When she's a little kid, he essentially just has to be the fun, kind parent. Yes, he wakes up at night to comfort her, but he also probably has a fleet of nannies to support most of the time. He can take her to Loo Loo Land (and not notice that she's scared of RoboFizz) and promise to see Azathoth's tears with her (in a distant future that he can't keep track of), while discipline and child-rearing take a major backseat.
A lot of it is actually... Performative. Not that he doesn't genuinely care, but he expresses the care in performative ways (likely taken from his limited reference point - fiction - and his own, singular childhood trip to the circus).
But then we see his age also play a big factor. Even from the beginning, Stolas struggles to treat Octavia appropriately. He is her dad but he is also a teenager with almost nothing to compare himself to. He sings a lullaby about dying! To his tiny owl daughter!!
And when she gets older, this only becomes more difficult. Stolas was forced to grow up so prematurely that his teenage years likely weren't any true extension of childhood like Octavia's are. When she's five, Stolas recognises how to interact with her and maintain closeness because he was also five at one point. When she's 17 and (thankfully) not burdened with imminent marriage & parenthood, Stolas gets caught between two extremes:
1. Infantilisation (attributing interests to her from a decade ago, not trusting her with basic details of his life, "language!" when she swears, carrying her during ep2)
2. Treating her overly casually, like friend (describing his sex life in front of her in extreme detail, "people want our money and our bodies", calling Stella a bitch in front of her)
And obviously, this sucks for Octavia! She's at once not taken seriously and placed in an uncomfortable position beyond what she can handle. She's old enough to handle knowing that Stolas takes anti-depressants & that he and Stella haven't ever been in love - information she's denied - but not in a position where her dad should ever be talking about his affair partner's "big dick" in front of her.
But Stolas can't navigate this. He understands the latter is inappropriate but slips multiple times because he finds it difficult to conceptualise this version of Octavia. When pushed, he recognises that she's "too old" for certain things, but in the same breath he can't bring himself to speak openly with her nor treat her like a nearly-matured individual.
And they're so codependent that it's pretty impossible to form healthy boundaries. In Sinsmas, Octavia is right to say that Stolas shouldn't have "stayed miserable just for" her, but equally she resents that he tried to reach out to another person other than her for happiness. Of course, he did it in a very flawed way, but there's still elements of hypocrisy to what Octavia says. In the same vein, Stolas Hypocrite Goetia spends 17 years giving Octavia a "normal life" only to blow it up in the most disastrous fashion possible without a word of honest explanation.
Because they're both acting immature!!!
Octavia is literally a teenager and Stolas is basically in a state of arrested development. It comes through in his parenting but (more obviously) in his grand, soap opera worthy gestures to Blitzø at every narrative turn. He can't understand Octavia as a teenager because was never really treated like one, and so he defaults to treating her like a child or speaking to her like an adult. The same way a lot of teen parents can present more like older siblings.
And I can only imagine this is exacerbated by the Goetia life span being infinite. Imagine having a one thousand year life span and having a kid at 18!! For their species, that's a laughably short amount of lived experience.
It's interesting to compare Stolas & Octavia to Blitzø & Loona. Technically, their age gap is even smaller (about 14 years) but Blitzø took Loona in when he was in his thirties. There's none of that weird infant stage to get muddled in, and it's also more appropriate for Blitzø to be vulgar around her since Loona is more mature. He still infantilises her though - but that's more a product of Blitzø's own fifteen complexes.
All of this to say. Wow. Stolas & Octavia's relationship can't heal until Stolas does some personal growth (because his best intentions simply aren't enough anymore). However, Octavia needs to build up some empathy for her dad. They're so similar and Stolas has put Octavia in a much more secure, safe position than he had at her age. Not a perfect position, mind you, but he is also a mentally ill victim of domestic abuse... So let's all invest in some sympathy actually. If someone would just let Octavia in on that information, it would clarify a lot of their issues to her.
Here's hoping for S3.
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