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Curious how there was only one prophecy about our prophecy girl, buffy summers. Turns out the real prophecy girl was Angel all along.

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[annavere]

Excellent list! On consideration, a few more possible parallels: Angelus & Nogitsune (A soulless sadist who exists to cause torment while wearing the face of a loved one.) Principal Snyder & Mr. Harris (Obstructive school bureaucrat who knows more than he should.) The Mayor & Gerard Argent (Evil patriarch who molds an impressionable young woman into a weapon.) Maybe Oz & Cora Hale (Deadpan potential love interest to the smart best friend.)

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Buffy Summers x Lindsey McDonald always bouncing around in my head like a DVD logo screensaver

Not because the ship really has any potential, but because it'd really piss Angel off and that's funny to me

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[everythingfox]

No survival skills

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This is ours to fix. It's our family.

[coraniaid]

I was just being silly with this post, but I do actually think Harmony has some interesting parallels with Buffy (and not just because, well, everyone of any importance on the show who isn't Buffy has parallels with Buffy) and that, post-Chosen (or post Not Fade Away in Harmony's case) they might realize they have a lot in common.

Both of them have complicated relationships with Cordelia Chase; indeed in Welcome to the Hellmouth Cordelia is basically auditioning Buffy for a role as Harmony. You can argue that Harmony is who Buffy might have been (if she wasn't a Slayer) and if she'd not decided to stick up for Willow at the cost of her own social life. In fact their relationships with Cordelia are somehow mirror images: in the first couple of seasons of Buffy Cordelia is technically friends with Harmony (but actually treats her pretty badly if you listen to the things she says to her) while being very aggressively dismissive of Buffy (but later dialogue implies she actually admires Buffy and thinks she made her friends "marginally cooler" by hanging out with them). Then in the later high school seasons, Cordelia and Buffy get on a lot better, while Harmony is now the popular girl looking down on both of them. But after high school, their positions reverse again -- Cordelia and Buffy don't stay in touch (and the few times they mention each other they're not particularly positive), but Harmony and Cordelia do get back together and seem to be better friends than they ever were before.

Both Harmony and Buffy die while still in high school, fighting against vampires and demons who are trying to destroy the town (Buffy dies in Prophecy Girl and Harmony dies two years later in Graduation Day).

The season after Harmony dies, she Comes Back Wrong (i.e. as a vampire) and starts sleeping with Spike. The season after Buffy dies (for the second time, in The Gift) she Comes Back Wrong [or, well, she doesn't, but she thinks she did and lots of people on here agree with her] and ... also starts sleeping with Spike. The show makes this parallel explicit twice: first, in Season 4's The Harsh Light Of Day (when Harmony realizing their relationship meant much less to him than it did to her is deliberately set up to mirror Buffy's post-Parker depression), and then in Season 6's Gone when Xander unwittingly compares Buffy to "a simpleton like Harmony" when he tells Spike nobody else would find him attractive.

After Buffy is forced to fight and (metaphorically) kill Angel,her soulless ex-boyfriend who has now left her and teamed up with Drusilla, she runs away to live in LA. After Harmony finally confronts Spike, her soulless ex-boyfriend who has left her and teamed up with Drusilla, (and attempts to kill him) she too runs away to LA.

In Buffy's last season in the Buffyverse, Buffy gets a new job she probably isn't best qualified for but is nonetheless proud to have from somebody (Robin Wood) who is new to running a large organization (Sunnydale Hig School) and who knows she is a Slayer. At the end of the season she betrays him (chooses to prioritize his mother's killer over him) and he fires her. In Angel's last season, Harmony gets a new job she probably isn't best qualified for but is nonetheless proud to have from somebody (Angel) who is new to running a large organization (the LA Branch of Wolfram & Hart) and who knows she is a soulless vampire. At the end of the season she betrays him (leaking information about his plans to the Senior Partners) and he fires her.

While the show's writers seem to never have heard the word 'bisexual' in their lives, Buffy and Harmony are both pretty easy to headcanon as bi (Buffy jokes about dating Faith in Season 3 and spends a large part of the second half of that season incredulous that her boyfriend isn't attracted to Faith and listing all the reasons he should be; as of Season 5 Harmony has apparently repeatedly told Spike that she'd be willing to have a threesome with Charlize Theron and in Disharmony Cordelia is very quick to assume she's attracted to her).

The last we see of Harmony she's running away from the Wolfram & Hart offices with a signed letter of recommendation from Angel. Maybe she gets out of LA before the city gets drawn into hell? Maybe she realizes that -- without access to Wolfram & Hart's resources -- beautiful, sunny California may not be the best place for a vampire, especially with all these new Slayers running around.

Maybe she reasons that, if the Slayers only knew she was sticking to otter blood these days, they'd give her a pass on the whole supernatural undead monster thing. Maybe she tracks down Buffy to Scotland (or wherever she's hiding out post Chosen) in order to make her case in person, and while she's there she asks her if she needs a hand keeping on top of all the admin work running the Slayer Organization must entail? Maybe she's the first person to bring Buffy concrete news of what happened to Angel and Spike; maybe they stay up late talking about how much they both miss Cordelia and Buffy realizes that, even though she and Harmony were never anything like friends, there's a part of her that misses her just because they used to see each other every day. Maybe she admits she blames herself for the fact Harmony died fighting the Mayor's army all those years ago: that Harmony was once -- years before the Potentials -- a girl who Buffy couldn't save, a girl who died because of her. Maybe she reads Angel's recommendation later again and decides to give this new Harmony who came back wrong a chance too.

And, well, then ... who knows? Maybe Hank isn't the only member of the Summers family who ends up sleeping with his secretary.

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Tessa facing down Grayson across a case of swords. The symbolism kills me. Look at that grace. Her determination. Her strength.

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"I'd destroy the world to protect you" but it's a parent/child relationship

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Tossing my hat in the Teen Wolf meta ring, because I've been thinking about this all day. I've read various theories about why Peter Hale offered Stiles the bite and then accepted a refusal, when he didn't offer a choice to either Scott or Lydia. Most of these seem to involve Peter respecting Stiles more than the others, or being aware that Stiles would be a very unpleasant adversary as an unwilling bite-ee.

My theory: He offers Stiles the bite, because Stiles might actually accept it. He doesn't make the same offer to Scott or Lydia, because neither of them would say yes. Peter is a very patient man (usually). His modus operandi is sitting around, collecting information, avoiding conflicts, then swooping in at the perfect moment (usually late in the season) to mop up. He's a manipulator by preference, but if he can't manipulate, he'll use force. He needs Scott, and Lydia, and there's no point asking if they want the bite, since they're not going to give the answer he wants to hear.

Obviously, given the short window of opportunity, he can't just walk up to Scott in the forest at night and say "Hey kid, wanna become a werewolf? You can have claws and fangs, it'll be great. No asthma! Think it over. You've got ten minutes." That's not gonna work, so why bother? If Sheriff had found Scott, leaving Stiles alone in the woods, Peter wouldn't have asked him for permission, either. Lest we forget, Melissa McCall was also on his bite-happy list, and the premise applies to her as well: Nothing would have induced that sensible woman to say yes.

Meanwhile, he definitely stalked Lydia, and was in the room with her at both Macy's and the winter formal, where the conversations he had opportunity to overhear would tell him Lydia had her life on track exactly as she wanted it. She was not going to jump at the chance to become a supernatural creature of any sort (especially not to bail his sorry ass out in event of his demise). It wouldn't help with her school popularity or her winning of the Fields Medal, therefore… "Pass."

Stiles, however, is tempted (at least according to Peter). "Do you know what I heard just then? Your heart beating slightly faster over the words 'I don't want.' You may believe that you're telling me the truth, but you are lying to yourself." Hence Peter can shrug and walk away, because Stiles wants it, and that means Stiles can eventually be put in a position where he'll say yes.

We see the exact same behavior play out again a season later, with Lydia. The man who didn't care about violating her physical and mental autonomy is suddenly willing to play nice, asking permission to kiss her and backing off when she refuses. Why? Because while she would never have agreed to have her latent banshee powers triggered, she is attracted to him. She places boundaries and he accepts them, because it's only a matter of time before she capitulates. Sure enough, he creates a scenario that works for her in the very next episode. When she finds out who young!Peter is, she rejects any further make out sessions, and (although he remains the handsy stuff of nightmares) he does not force that particular issue. Given the "only have eyes for you" vibe every time they are ever in a room together afterward, he is presumably content to wait her out.

This, after all, is the man who says of teenagers: "One minute, it's 'I hate you, don't talk to me.' The next, it's frantic groping in any dark corner they could manage to find." This statement is the closest he ever comes to commenting on his own actions after spending a month in Lydia's mind. Teenagers, according to his self-serving universe, refuse things they secretly want, things Peter knows they want because he can hear their heartbeats. And if Stiles and Lydia say no, but mean yes, he's already won. He'll collect later.

So, tl;dr: Peter Hale, provided nothing urgently requires him to override the issue, does care about consent and is willing to abide by it - but only if the answer is eventually going to be yes.

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After seeing @thisdiscontentedwinter  ‘Talia’s a bad leader’ theory something stuck out to me that I remembered from rewatching Season 3 yesterday. After Peter tells Stiles and Cora about Derek’s past in the episode Visionary Stiles asks Peter if Derek remembers it was Ennis who it Paige. Peter replies, “if he does he keeps it to himself.”  

Which strikes me as an odd response for two reasons.

1.) Why wouldn’t Derek remember? That’s a pretty traumatic event. Derek’s life up until that point had been one series of traumatic events after another, but he would remember the person who killed his first love, it’s not like Ennis is easily misremembered either, he is a giant alpha now who was a giant alpha back then. There can’t be that many giant alphas running around.

2.) Peter states outright that it was Derek’s idea to call Ennis, but we clearly see Peter suggesting it. However, during the flashbacks Peter runs away from Ennis and hides behind a corner, clearly frightened. If Peter was the one to call Ennis to the school why would he hide from him? 

Derek hears Paige crying out, runs down the hallway, and when Ennis sees him Ennis gets defensive and prepares to fight Derek. Derek lunges at him and though he’s subdued Ennis walks away without saying anything. If Derek called Ennis, why would Ennis be so hostile towards him and why would Derek be angry that he bit Paige?

It doesn’t make sense for either of them to be the one who called Ennis. If it was Peter he shouldn’t have run, if it was Derek he shouldn’t have been angry. Maybe he was angry that Ennis hurt Paige but that would make sense, he was trying to bite her. It makes much more sense if Talia was the one to arrange it.

After Derek kills Paige we see Talia show up at the Nemeton. She tells him, “Derek. You did something, something terrible. I know.” Derek tells her his eyes are different and she responds; “different but still beautiful. Just like the rest of you.”

How did she find out? The Peter we know isn’t about to go running to his sister when something doesn’t go his way, and its doubtful Ennis would have told her. A lot of this episode doesn’t make sense, but it does if Talia was the one who manipulated the situation. She also doesn’t appear that upset that her child essentially got someone killed.

We are told throughout that we are dealing with unreliable narrators (Gerard and Peter.) Cora responds to this by saying, “so we heard Peter’s perspective,” and Stiles says he doesn’t think they’re getting the full story. I think the perspective we’re actually seeing is Talia’s alteration.  

When dealing with two conflicting stories the best way to approach it is by looking at what stays the same and in both Gerard and Peter’s versions Talia is there, quietly pulling strings in the background. It was even her Emissary who arranged the meeting between Deucalion and Gerard in the first place.

The fighting between Ennis and Gerard was sparked because Ennis’s beta killed a hunter, the hunters killed the beta, and so Ennis wanted vengeance. It’s possible that Talia thought a new packmate might assuage some of Ennis’s aggression and maybe he would have been placated with a new packmate to replace the one he lost.

It’s also possible that Talia knew what Derek was thinking and that he wanted Paige to be a werewolf so they could be together. If Ennis bites Paige then Derek gets his girl, the fighting with the hunters might stop, and the packs and the hunters can go back to their uneasy stalemates. Turning Paige might have seemed like the solution to the coming war.

We also know Talia manipulates memories, she took Peter’s memory of Malia from him and Peter not only remembers this happening but he knows she possesses the ability to do so with her claws. Maybe the only reason she’s viewed as such a great leader is that she takes away the evidence she wasn’t? Maybe she also took away Derek’s memory of Ennis and that’s why the two never seem to fully recognize each other. Even during their fight, when the two are up close and personal, they act like two regular combatants, not like they have a history. It’s possible Talia has a history of getting rid of things she doesn’t like, because why would she take just the memory of Malia and leave Peter with the memory of herself taking it? Maybe she didn’t, but Peter remembered her doing it to Derek or someone else and knew she must have done the same to him when he realized there were gaps in his memory, and maybe that’s why Peter says “<i>if</i> he remembers.”

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Not to go on an ENTIRELY different segue here BUT ALSO Heather!!

Peter's possessiveness of Derek has one more layer to it, I think, Talia!!

We know through legend and others around them that Derek is both physically and spiritually like her.

Ducalian and Kali comment on his physical attributes (Literally his FACE) about how he looks a lot like Talia, and also Satomi talks about how he reminded her of Talia!!

Like _chews glass_

Let's not even get started with the level of guilt Derek must have around comments like this though. His mother, the fantastic leader murdered BECAUSE of him, but Peter!!

Kid bro Peter who would have sulked all his life about being a Beta, (and probably killed one of the Alpha pack to get the Spark and then carved up the Hale territory), but like with others he wouldn't have wanted Talia dead, because SHE was also his.

okay so i was about to go to bed and address all my asks later but this one.....

listen do you know how the fact we never got anything substantial about talia and peter's relationship keeps me awake at night? do you?

there's implications and allusions but what i wouldn't give for peter to have actually spoken about talia. i actually talked about the impressions i have about the talia and peter relationship in my laura meta but as always i have more.

peter was in the house when the fire happened. peter survived but was trapped in his own mind for six years where he descended into madness.

peter was in the house. all that was left of talia were her claws. peter had to listen to her die.

talia was his sister. talia was his alpha. losing a pack member is like losing a limb.

he loved her. he respected her. he resented her.

she let him mentor her son. she took the memories of his daughter.

he thought she was too soft and made them into sheep instead of wolves but he never challenged her for power that we know of.

he killed her eldest daughter. he won't kill her son.

derek looks like talia. he acts like talia. peter cannot kill him.

he helped get her claws back because he wanted the memories she took but the claws were all that was left of her. there was no body to bury. hunters kept her claws as a perverted trophy denying the hales what was left of their alpha. denying peter what was left of his sister.

i think talia knew full well peter was lurking during the summit. he ran to her when he found derek and paige to tell her what happened.

she was his sister.

talia probably understood peter better and deeper than anyone else ever had or will. he hated it, resented it and misses it.

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B A N S H E E / L Y D I A M A R T I N 🌑

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Also, she deserves her snaps for enduring all of it without plot armour. And doing it in heels lol.