fandom anti-conspiracism

interested in anti-conspiracism in general and larrie bullshit in particular. you may know me as shit-larries-say

[anticonspiracist]

some starter shit

if you're going to ask "why do you care???" please watch this first because all your questions are answered there:

[anticonspiracist]

i think the thing that bothers me most abt the larry conspiracy is that there ALWAYS has to be some big bad behind the scenes controlling them and hurting them and forcing them to do things they don't want to like this is an ao3 fanfic or something. has it ever occurred to larries that even if harry and louis are actually gay, maybe they are choosing to stay in the closet???????? i never understood why larries think that willingly closeting yourself is a bad thing

well these conspiracy theorists have a flattened view of queerness, and would view purposely closeting oneself as dishonest and shameful. therefore, since they believe harry and louis ARE gay and ARE NOT out, someone ELSE must be closeting them, since they are Good Gays who would be out ... if they could be.

[anticonspiracist]

holy crap, you still exist on here, tbh I thought this blog was kinda gone after you stopped posting on Twitter ages ago 😭 I’m so happy imma do a scroll down on here 🙌🏻

sorry i've been so absent!!!!

[anticonspiracist]

I don’t know how active you are anymore but the conspiracy theorism in this fandom has gotten so terrible since Liam’s death. You really opened my eyes to how harmful this shit was from the start and I want to thank you for that. This situation is all around horrible. Of course no need to post this ask.

anon, come back and give me a specific example!!

[anticonspiracist]

Hi it's been a while since I saw any posts from you and I don't know of you interested in this anymore plus the subject is taylor but anyway

I was watching the reaction from gaylors over the proposal and it's quite interesting how these groups aren't really different,it's the same thing I mean it's baby gate all over again.

The tin hats going trough all the stages of grief mixed with the cope and reassuring language about how they are still winning even when it looks like they are losing plus it's all planned and they predicted everything even tho they are predicting backwards and the coming out it's just around the corner just trust the plan and keep believing

It's almost Q anon but even Q anon some of Q anon at least jumped ship from the movement after Trump dismissed the epstein case

Anyway hope you doing great, your podcast is still one of my favorite backgrounds sounds for when I'm drawing

Take care

V

in my office there are 2 huge taylor fans and all i could think when they were freaking out over the news was "oh i know exactly what those gaylors are saying." then i didn't even need to go look to confirm my assumptions because QAA (formerly QAnon Anonymous) did a premium episode on Gaylors post-proposal. And buddy, they observed the same shit you did. it really does drive home the fact that these conspiracy theories are all the same -- how the CTs react to disconfirming evidence is just by-the-book at this point!

[anticonspiracist]

i'm still here!!!

i'm working on a related project (i will def post here about it when it's ready to share!!) and if you're still seeing these posts, i want to hear from you.

have you noticed any new patterns with the conspiracy theorists in our fandom? (if so, what? who?)

have you ventured to another fandom and found more conspiracy theorists? which fandoms?

are there any of the Usual Suspects who've gone to hiding or had a public breakup with fandom that i missed? (i haven't been checking in on the Usual Suspects nearly as regularly as I did in the past.)

who's still around blogging like it's 2012??

[anticonspiracist]

You may not check this blog anymore (I know it’s been a long time since your last post). The whole Louis and Harry living together in early 1d days thing came up recently. I know for awhile that there was a thing about “Harry wasn’t 18 yet, so he had to live with an adult” thing going around. Which, not sure how true that type of thing is or how credible. But I am curious if you’ve ever heard that that js credible? (I’m in no way a Larry and trying to take this and run with it, just curious about that particular thing)

pretty sure even in the UK a 16yo couldn't let an apartment by themselves.

[anticonspiracist]

do you still put out podcast episodes?

... maybe?

i'm currently in the process of trying to leave the country, so there's not as much energy for delving deep into the larry stylinson conspiracy theory and its adherents, but i won't say we would never release another episode.

[anticonspiracist]

hiii can you please direct me to any anti-larry blogs you know of? thank you!

as you can probably tell, i'm a bit checked out of this particular conspiracy theory. i don't know of any anti-larrie blogs. what more is there to say? @thelarrative-blog, which stopped posting years ago, @lrambling, and @back-to-louis have all said everything that needs to be said about that conspiracy theory. no matter what things larries are saying today, it's all been said before.

[anticonspiracist]

anon, I'm not going to venture into that subject.

[anticonspiracist]

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[anticonspiracist]

i recorded an episode with @papiermachecat this weekend. i'll get it edited this week and up as soon as possible!

[anticonspiracist]

do you by any chance have that post you talked about by doll lady that was gaining traction when she was a gossip blogger in 2012? it would be interesting to see where she started, in comparison to where she ended up

After a few days of posting about Liam and his rumored breakup, Amy (then posting as Gossip Candy) posted about Harry and got 20 whole notes (link to archived day, since she has deleted her blog posts). The last post from that day is an ask thanking her for "writing that article" about Harry:

You can see here that she isn't saying she's a conspiracy theorist, just a 1D fan, though she DOES allude to fans she will later call "hets" there at the end.

She posts at least a dozen times a day through early October, not matching the note count she got with that first Harry post (even though she posts about 1D's management banning questions, and a woman linked to Harry by the Sun winning a libel lawsuit).

October 6th had a run of 1D posts, but not a lot of notes.

In November, she brings larry into an "article" about Harry addressing "rumors," which earns her a fawning ask. She's also reblogging from larrie blogs.

On November 14th, she's posting about Harry's sparrow tattoos:

At this time, as I scroll the archived days, her "articles" are outweighed by larry reblogs, though she does get nearly 200 notes on an "article" about Harry being spotted in two places at once. Who cares, right? But this paragraph indicates why so many notes:

And then later that day ...

And on November 17th, she's publishing ask after ask praising her for her larry articles and being a new supporter.

worked out so well for her!!

[anticonspiracist]

1 I want to start by saying that I'm no way a Larrie and english is not my first language so I'm not sure if I will get across what I mean. Apologizes if it doesnt make sense. Do you think that when H and L were young and was being rather "affectionate" towarrds eachother, that it wasnt always just "teenage boys being teenage boys" but also that they had a vauge idea that people shipped them so it was like an in joke between them and the fans (no queerbaiting) and them throwing shippers a bone

2 every now and then (like Harry saying Louis was his first crush) and then they realised, holy fck some of these people genuinley belive this shit, and then (om top of growing older and just changing in general) it just wasnt "fun" to do that anymore. So Larries ruined it for causal shippers to.

Sorry it's taken me awhile to get to this!

In short, yes. I think it's pretty clear that Harry and Louis were engaging in fanservice in the early days of the band, particularly when they were on the television show. They needed support from fans to advance one week to the next, so they did what seemed to be getting them the most engagement.

It ceased being a fun thing in September 2012 when Louis lashed out at people for believing in the conspiracy theory because it was hurting his loved ones. Those who kept engaging in larrie beliefs after that point were the true conspiracy theorists.

That month was when doll lady (lesbianslovelouis/lesbianslovelarry/28nachos/amysparkles) came into fandom. She was trying to be a gossip blogger and her post about Harry got a LOT of interaction on this platform. She saw that the attention was in stirring up conspiracy theorists, so that's what she did. for more than a decade. wild.

[ignoremepleaseibeg]

hi sorry i was just wondering what the picture of harry with love bites you guys were talking about was, and also the one of him papped sleeping or something? sorry im a bit out of the loop (banned myself from tumblr to get course work done eww)

well i’m not going to post the picture of him sleeping… but you can pretty much find it anywhere so like it’s not hard to find.

as for the love bites…

When they arrived in France (day after their movie date):

And then 2 days later when he was coming back from Glasgow (clearly these bite marks were a few days old):

So yeah, Louis likes to bite apparently. Bite hard.

Forgive my lack of Photoshop skills, but I did a thing.  Those bite marks are obv from his good old laddy dude bro pal, Louis.  

His bottom rightish tooth that is set back and up, and the two surrounding it, line right up perfectly with those scabby bruise things.  

…….

….

I am a dentist and those bite mark is so fucking fit with his dude bro pal’s teeth. OMG

^ hahahahah I’m just a creepy nerd, now we got a real dentist up in here.  SCIENCE!

[litania87]

As a dentist and a larry shipper this is porn to me!

Dentist number 2!!

I’m seeing quite a few people in the notes of course saying we’re off the rails and that they don’t believe a dentist could be in the fandom and what not.  I am here to tell you that there ARE educated adults in this fandom and every other.  

Ah yes, I remember seeing a post acting excited that there are actual college students in their fandom. And I was all like, well….. I’m more likely to run with the educated adults myself (of whom a high proportion seem to be lawyers). I remember an anon insisting to Marta that she was NOT a lawyer—she was 1) a lawyer (educated adult), and 2) she supported Louis’ and Harry’s relationship: two apparently irreconcilable ideas to this particular anon, ergo she was not a lawyer. A lot of kids seem to have a misconception about their own fandom and who’s in it.

I’ve shown these pictures to a forensic odontologist that spoke to the forensics department at my school, and he said these teeth match spot on.

[anticonspiracist]

forensic odontology is largely bullshit, and definitely is in this case (soft tissue of a live subject).

[anticonspiracist]

The Man Who Gossiped Too Much

For years, John Nelson anonymously posted blind items skewering the Hollywood elite on the blog Crazy Days and Nights. Then his identity was

go on, read about the guy that big larries said actually knew anything about harry and louis 🙃🙃🙃

[anticonspiracist]

New conspiracy theorists are being born with this whole Kate Middleton drama. Its interesting to witness a conspiracy come to life recognizing all the boxes it checks and realizing that it’s in fact all conspiracies. A couple years ago I would have fallen for this bs but I know better now and that’s partly thanks to your content.

I hhave a hard time agreeing that those engaging with the Kate Middleton issue are NEW conspiracy theorists. Some, likely, but most of them likely already believe in another conspiracy theory (JFK assassination, US govt covering up knowledge of aliens, Princess Di CTs...).

I am, however, glad to hear that our work here has inoculated you! That's my goal. 😎