A handy guide to fascism
I realize a lot of people who send me messages don't fully understand what fascism is. So, for the future - This is fascism:
This is not fascism:
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A handy guide to fascism
I realize a lot of people who send me messages don't fully understand what fascism is. So, for the future - This is fascism:
This is not fascism:
The maddest thing is that Tescos was founded by a JEW
(Sir Jack Cohen)
The group seemingly did not exist before this week and, unusually, does not have its own Telegram or social media channels. Usually, such gr
A new group calling itself Ashab Al Yamim has claimed responsibility for three attacks on Jewish institutions in Europe this week.
The first attack was the bombing of a synagogue in Liege, Belgium, on Monday. This was followed by an attack in Greece on Wednesday and an arson attack on a synagogue in Rotterdam, Netherlands, on Friday.
The reason you cant tell nazis and progressives apart in the last anon is that they didnt specify any political affiliation at all...
No.... the reason you can't tell Nazis and progressives apart is because they talk alike and act alike. You cannot tell from the story of the last anon whether the school is filled with super-progressives or White Supremacists. If, for example, they would have said that people in their school use "Black people" as a way of saying "stupid", you would have no problem categorizing those people. But when it comes to Jews - the level of antisemitism from both right (White Supremacists) and left (progressives) is so high, it's impossible to tell them apart.
You would think progressives would be bothered by the fact that they quote actual Nazis without noticing. But apparently, they're not bothered at all.
Hi is it okay if I tell you about some anti semitism I have witnessed a lot recently? In not Jewish but I consider myself an ally to the Jewish community.
A ton of people at my school have normalized replacing the word “stupid” with “Jewish” and it absolutely infuriates me.
Jewish hate makes people stupid.
When you can't tell Nazis and progressives apart, example #2879833
you: “i hate the israeli government”
well, guess whAT me fucking too (and most likely more than you), but at least it didn’t make me a raging antisemite and/or lose braincells to social media by the minute, so i guess i win.
Do you really hear that from people? Because antizionists don't hate any specific Israeli government. They hate the very existence of the State of Israel. That's why they call it IsraHELL And say things like "Am Israel DIE" Unless they mean: I hate the existence of an Israeli government. Otherwise, they're actually saying that there can be some other Israeli government that they'll accept
oh, i definitely have and many times. sometimes out of context like in the OP, but sometimes within a conversation - to excuse their antisemitism.
btw they all answer the same to what i wrote there lol - something about them being elected. which is generally true, but also not really if you’d truly understand how the voting system works in israel (spoiler: it’s nothing like the US).
So next time, focus on what they're saying implicitly. If they just have a problem with the Israeli government, then the people can vote for a different government and they won't have a problem with Israel, right? So what kind of Jewish government do they want in Eretz Israel? (and why do they blame all Gazans for what Hamas did? Just because people thronged the streets and ran to murder Jews doesn't mean EVERYBODY's to blame. But that's using too much logic for people who are just looking for good justification to wipe out the Jews)
Back before "free Palestine" meant "wipe all Jews from Eretz Israel", it simply meant to save the Jews. In those days, "Palestine" was just the non-Jewish way of saying "Eretz Israel". But then the Jews did establish a state, the Arabs refused to establish their own state alongside and tried to murder the Jews, and "Palestine" changed its meaning to "a Jewish-free land". The thing antizionists all over the world still hope for. Because it's not about enabling an ethnic group to have its own state. There are so many peoples in the region who need that. Nobody cares about them. Nobody cares about the Palestinians either. They could have had their own state countless times in the past century. But then, we wouldn't be able to wipe out the Jews, would we? Antizionism is about committing another genocide against the Jews. Antizionism is about denying Jews their history, culture and religion.
Menahem Zioni (Ziyyuni) ben Meir of Speyer (c. 1340 - c. 1410) was a German kabbalist of the middle of the 14th century. (wiki) He explains in his books that he called himself Zioni because he studied in Har Zion (ie, Jerusalem). His two books are also called Zioni - "Zioni" and "Zfunei Zioni" (the secrets of Zioni) - both are books on kabbalah.
When you call yourself "antizionist" and say Jews are colonialists in Eretz Israel - that includes people like Rabbi Menachem Zioni.
Innocent Civilians
Remember the people who cheered the Massacre of October 7th? Remember the people who call it "Liberation" and wish it upon all Jews? Remember the people who want to "globalize the intifada"? This is what they mean. Dror Or - managed the milk dairy in Kibbutz Beeri. Murdered on October 7th, 2023 and his body was abducted to Gaza. His body was returned more than two years later.
Yonat Or - Dror's wife. Furniture designer. Murdered on October 7th, 2023
Noam and Alma Or - children of Dror and Yonat. Abducted to Gaza on October 7th, 2023 and returned almost two months later
you: “i hate the israeli government”
well, guess whAT me fucking too (and most likely more than you), but at least it didn’t make me a raging antisemite and/or lose braincells to social media by the minute, so i guess i win.
Do you really hear that from people? Because antizionists don't hate any specific Israeli government. They hate the very existence of the State of Israel. That's why they call it IsraHELL And say things like "Am Israel DIE" Unless they mean: I hate the existence of an Israeli government. Otherwise, they're actually saying that there can be some other Israeli government that they'll accept
Do you think maybe because Israelis have standing ovations for rapists and settlers marching to have homes where children’s bodies are buried under rubble and its common practice for Israelis to spit at and blockage Christians—when they’re not blocking aid for starving children—and have a trend of predators fleeing to the country to avoid accountability for being rapists and pedophiles and Israelis constantly go “Am Israel Chai” in response to Israeli war crimes and governments thinks you should be deported for protesting against it that people hate Israel’s existence and therefore call it Israhell and go “Am Israel Die”
You do realize you sound like a Nazi, right? But thank you for proving my case. It's not about this Israeli government or a specific thing Israelis did. Antizionists hate Jews. Plain and simple. They hate their existence. They hate the Jewish homeland. They hate the fact that Jews have made it into paradise, despite having enemies who want to kill them.
Antizionists think that if people want to murder Jews, then the Jews must have done something to deserve it and that they should be wiped out. (Oh, yeah, and I forgot to say... just because you sound like almost every other Christian in history doesn't mean that this has anything to do with Christian antisemitism. Because "educate yourself" and "check your privilege" and "deal with your racism" are progressive ideals that don't apply when it comes to Jews)
Natsoc Florida, Oct 8, 2023
you: “i hate the israeli government”
well, guess whAT me fucking too (and most likely more than you), but at least it didn’t make me a raging antisemite and/or lose braincells to social media by the minute, so i guess i win.
Do you really hear that from people? Because antizionists don't hate any specific Israeli government. They hate the very existence of the State of Israel. That's why they call it IsraHELL And say things like "Am Israel DIE" Unless they mean: I hate the existence of an Israeli government. Otherwise, they're actually saying that there can be some other Israeli government that they'll accept
roald dahl, a moron and antisemite: and then matilda's powers went away cause she didn't need them anymore
danny devito, a beloved icon: and matilda kept her powers cause she was a cool as fuck little autistic jewish girl
The apology, which appeared as a note on the official Roald Dahl website, comes 30 years after the author's death.
Apparently this is ok because he was also an 'antizionist' It's ok, commenter, he hates Jews and Israel! You can still like him!
(All this to be said he's a pretty great author, and I feel better about enjoying his books now that he's not personally getting royalties for them)
user ‘pondering the gulloitine’ hating jews and justifying it so fork found in kitchen
if i've said this a thousand times, i'll say it a thousand more:
"you can criticize Israel without being antisemetic" does not mean "you can't be antisemetic if you're criticizing Israel"
"you can criticize Israel without being antisemitic" does not mean "you can criticize Israel's existence without being antisemitic"
and it does not mean "you can deny Jewish history, culture and religion in Eretz Israel without being antisemitic" Just as antizionists do not "oppose Zionism" - they do not "criticize Israel"
People love pretending Arab anti-Zionism is some ancient, organic, authentic movement.
It’s not.
It’s a Frankenstein ideology built from Soviet lies, Arab dictators’ excuses, and Islamist slogans.
And It collapses the moment you actually examine it.
The Soviet Union needed a Middle Eastern villain after Israel leaned West.
So Moscow manufactured a narrative and sold it to the world:
Zionism = racism
Israel = colonial white settlers
Jews returning to their homeland = “imperialism”
Palestinians = anti-imperialist revolutionaries
None of this was honest.
It was Cold War propaganda weaponized to gain influence in the Arab world.
And the slogans you hear today?
Still the exact same Soviet talking points.
Arab regimes loved the Soviet framing because it did one thing perfectly:
It erased their responsibility.
Corruption?
Not the leaders’ fault. It's Zionism.
Economic collapse?
Not decades of incompetence. It's imperialism.
Lack of innovation, education, freedom, justice, or progress?
Of course not.
It's always the same magical enemy.
“Israel is the reason your leaders keep failing.”
It’s the biggest political scam in the region’s history, repeated for 70+ years.
Here’s where it becomes truly ridiculous.
Communism is atheist.
Arab ideology is religious.
Communism hates nationalism.
Arab ideology is obsessed with nationalism.
Communism demands class revolution.
Arab regimes protected elites and dictators.
These worldviews should be enemies.
Instead, they all chant the same slogan:
“Down with Zionism.”
That tells you everything.
The ideology isn’t honest. It’s useful.
Useful for regimes that need a distraction.
Useful for militants who need recruits.
Useful for activists who need a villain for their worldview.
From the USSR came ready-made intellectual garbage:
“Zionism is racism.”
“Israel is apartheid.”
“Israel is a colonial settler project.”
“Palestinians are liberation fighters.”
Arab leaders copy–pasted these slogans because they were loud, emotional, and required zero self-critique.
They replaced genuine introspection with a propaganda script.
If communists, Islamists, Arab dictators, monarchs, Western radicals, campus Marxists, tribal elites, and corrupt militias all magically agree on the same anti-Zionist narrative…
that alone should make every rational person suspicious.
These people agree on NOTHING except this one convenient lie.
Why?
Because blaming Israel is the easiest way to avoid admitting the truth:
The region’s wounds are mostly self-inflicted, not Zionist-made.
Anti-Zionism became the perfect political anesthesia:
It numbs the pain while killing the patient.
While it's true that the USSR did a lot to mainstream antizionism and Jew hatred - Arab antizionism did not originate there. It's ancient in the sense that oppressive colonialists never want the indigenous peoples to rise up. It's ancient in the sense that the daughter-religions of Judaism have a serious theological problem with Judaism. In the 16th century, when Dona Gracia wanted to rebuild Teverya (Tiberias) for Jewish refugees, the local Arabs destroyed the city walls that were put up and the project had to be abandoned. Why? Because they had a legend that if the city of Tiberias would be rebuilt, the Jews (ie, the original owners of the land) will come back.
And they were right.
p.s.: of course, anybody who believes that Jews have no connection to the land and that Zionism is a completely new ideology that is not related to Judaism - cannot at the same time believe that Arab antizionism is ancient.
The insistence among indigenous rights activists and land back proponents in obscuring, ignoring, and outright denying Jewish indigeneity to the Levant is nothing less than antisemitism. There is no way around this.
"Indigenous peoples have the right to sovereignty over their ancestral lands. Not those damn Jews though."
I feel like we’re missing a huge issue here, ya know? Like killing innocent civilians…
You're right! In addition to denying Jews their indigenous right to Eretz Israel, antizionists also support murdering Jews - men, women and children. Because Jews are never "innocent civilians". When you rape, torture, kidnap and murder Jews - it's all considered "liberation". Thank you for pointing it out.
Natsoc Florida, Oct 8, 2023
Dozens of neo-Nazis marched through the German city of Dortmund on Monday, calling for Palestinian support to eradicate Israel. The demonstration, which came on the heels of an anti-fascist protest in the western German city, involved approximately seventy neo-Nazi activists marching through the streets, holding flags of the Third Reich flag and chanting, "Palestine help us, Israel still exists" and "Israel no more." (Ynet, Oct 2019)
Belgian politician Fouad Ahidar at anti-Israel protest among othe slogans shouted: Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the Gas. This is a very common slogan in anti-Israel protests (Joods Actueel, Nov 2012)
Without looking this up: How many people think this is Nazi?
This is obviously a Nazi symbol
Yes
No
I don't know
On the one hand - 91% think it's a nazi symbol, which is great. On the other - 9% think it isn't And on the third hand - how come that nobody thinks it's serious when I post it? or the many other pictures I've got of antizionists making the Nazi salute, antizionists praising Hitler or antizionists calling to murder Jews wholesale? How come, when antizionists make the Nazi salute, it's suddenly political? or funny? or "you can't make such an accusation based on 1 2 100 1000 pictures"? Or "die Jews die"? Because that really proves this has nothing to do with Nazism.
The reason that Nazi antisemitism was bad is not because they are often considered to have been on the right of the political spectrum or because of the specific symbols they wore. It was bad because they marched in the streets threatening and harassing Jews and inciting violence against them and calling for the destruction of the Jewish people and then once they got into power they did exactly what they said they would and carried out a genocide of the Jewish people.
There’s a consistent tendency to somehow treat antisemitism that is perceived to be on the left or that is not associated with Neo Nazi or Nazi symbols as somehow less important or less serious. But the problem with the Nazis is the things they said and did not what kind of armbands they wore. Nazi symbols are only considered evil today because of their association with Nazi crimes not because those images would otherwise be inherently bad.
Right now you he greatest proportion of antisemitic violence is coming from the left and it should absolutely be taken just as seriously. Regardless of whether someone throws a Hitler salute, rallies that involve chants for the genocide of Jews and incite attacks on Jewish institutions and Jewish people should be called what they are: hate rallies. And any movement that does not disavow this behavior or encourages it should be what it is: a genocidal hate movement. No one who supports this kind of thing should have any kind of legitimacy or place in any sort of position of power. And the violence that they are trying to carry out needs to be treated with the seriousness it deserves. And it doesn’t matter where on the political spectrum members of the movement fall or what particular symbols they use.
If someone is calling for the genocide of Jews or otherwise inciting or committing acts of violence against Jews, you should treat their violent intent just a seriously whether or not there are skinheads wearing a swastika armbands. If someone can get away with calling for violence against Jews, and indeed committing acts of violence against Jews, as long as they don’t wear a particular symbol or don’t use a particular term, then you encourage antisemites to just change a few particulars about the aesthetic or terminology of their movement in order to be able to carry out acts of Jew hatred with impunity.
If you as a society, tell Nazis that they can call for the deaths of Jews and attack synagogues and discriminate against, threaten, attack and even kill Jewish people as long as they don’t wear swastikas or as long say that they are just being “anti-Zionist” or as long as they call it a “protests” then that’s what smart Nazis will do. And if you let them get away with it, you are part of the problem.
I'm not sure I understand. People make the Nazi salute, not because they're lacking salutes and it's just a symbol that means nothing. It comes together with attacks on Jews, calls to murder Jews, reading Mein Kampf and saying they will finish Hitler's job. And still: nobody thinks there's anything Nazi about it. We don't need to worry about them "just changing their aesthetic", because it's so common and acceptable today that they don't have to. "that’s what smart Nazis will do"
That is what smart Nazis are doing. That's exactly what antizionists are. They can't stop making Nazi salutes - because the entire antizionist ideology is so pro-Nazi. Not every antisemite is Nazi. But every Nazi is an antisemite. Technically, it would have been possible for antizionists to just be antisemites without adoring everything Nazi. But that's not the situation.
And we're still debating whether antizionism is antisemitism.
Ah sorry let me clarify. I was agreeing with you. Obviously in modern times there is absolutely something wrong with the Nazi salute and with other Nazi symbols. The reason for that though is that I these symbols are associated with the vile crimes of the Nazis. I feel that often in the West among non-Jewish people the symbolism of the Nazis is criticized more than the reason that those symbols are now considered bad. Many of these so-called protests are nothing but exercises in hatred of Jews. In this instance, an actual Nazi salute was given, which makes it crystal clear what the intent was. and then even in cases like this somehow it portrayed by many as not as bad because it’s an “anti-Zionist salute opposed to just a Nazi salute” which is nonsense. It’s the same thing. Antizionism is antisemitism. This is a neo-Nazi movement. It’s not pro Palestine; it’s pro Hamas (which is inherently anti Palestine since Hamas is currently brutally murdering Palestinian people in the streets of Gaza). And Hamas is tied to the Muslim brotherhood which had ties to the Nazis
My point was just that even in instances where no swastika is shown or no Nazi salute is given, when people are chanting about destroying Israel or calling for the genocide of all Jews in the world it still is as bad as if Nazi symbols or gestures are on display because it’s still calling for the same things that the Nazis were calling for. And as long as people continue to treat antisemitism that is seen as leftist as somehow less serious, they create a pathway for normalization of antisemitism and endangerment of Jewish people
I agree. Antizionists call for the murder of Jews. They used to hate Nazis too, but it's hard to hate somebody you totally agree with.
This is just as bad as the Nazi salute. It's even worse in many ways, because people can say it's "just a pro-Palestine sign". (but it's not like if she would be making the Nazi salute she would be shunned and thrown out of the protest. All Jew haters are welcome in antizionist protests )
Same here:
Same here:
The last one is from the National Socialist Party of Florida. The other two fit right into that same ideology.
JERUSALEM (VINnews) — On Tuesday, Satmar Grand Rebbe Aron Teitelbaum continued his visit in Israel with a series of stops at Satmar institut
This is the difference between anti-Zionists and antizionists. Anti-Zionists have an issue with the Zionist attitude of a Jewish state in Eretz Israel, but they do not deny the Jewish connection to the land. They do not deny it is the most important land in Jewish history, religion and tradition. That's why a visit such as this is not an ideological problem. In fact, there's a big Satmar community in Israel. I have Satmar family in Israel - we agree on a lot of things, including what Israel should do to defend us from the people who want to kill us. There are also secular anti-Zionists, but they are very few. It's hard to come up with secular reasons to be against Zionism when you also believe in things like indigenous rights. The idea that "Jewish history is based in Eretz Israel but right now the land is being controlled by its Arab conquerors, and we shouldn't return the land to its original inhabitants by force" maybe was accepted by some on the Left in the 1950s, but it isn't today. Antizionists have a problem with Jews. They deny Jewish history, culture and religion. They have a problem with the Zionist Jews of the 19th century, they have a problem with the big aliyahs of the pre-Zionist Jews of the 18th century. They have a problem with the big Sephardic aliya of the 15th-16th centuries. You get the point. They are antisemites. They call for the murder of millions of Jews.
They tell us they can't possibly be antisemites, because they're "progressives", and therefore they can talk like Nazis and act like Nazis and never have to worry about anybody calling them out on it. They openly support people who adore Hitler and want to finish the job he started. They make life hell for Jews outside of Eretz Israel. And still... Jews have a problem understanding whether they can call them "antisemites". Because they're progressive, after all.
It doesn't really matter that they support people who actively oppose everything they believe in - minority rights, human rights, women's rights, gay rights, saving the environment etc. They're "progressive" and therefore they can't hate Jews. QED.
Without looking this up: How many people think this is Nazi?
This is obviously a Nazi symbol
Yes
No
I don't know
On the one hand - 91% think it's a nazi symbol, which is great. On the other - 9% think it isn't And on the third hand - how come that nobody thinks it's serious when I post it? or the many other pictures I've got of antizionists making the Nazi salute, antizionists praising Hitler or antizionists calling to murder Jews wholesale? How come, when antizionists make the Nazi salute, it's suddenly political? or funny? or "you can't make such an accusation based on 1 2 100 1000 pictures"? Or "die Jews die"? Because that really proves this has nothing to do with Nazism.
The reason that Nazi antisemitism was bad is not because they are often considered to have been on the right of the political spectrum or because of the specific symbols they wore. It was bad because they marched in the streets threatening and harassing Jews and inciting violence against them and calling for the destruction of the Jewish people and then once they got into power they did exactly what they said they would and carried out a genocide of the Jewish people.
There’s a consistent tendency to somehow treat antisemitism that is perceived to be on the left or that is not associated with Neo Nazi or Nazi symbols as somehow less important or less serious. But the problem with the Nazis is the things they said and did not what kind of armbands they wore. Nazi symbols are only considered evil today because of their association with Nazi crimes not because those images would otherwise be inherently bad.
Right now you he greatest proportion of antisemitic violence is coming from the left and it should absolutely be taken just as seriously. Regardless of whether someone throws a Hitler salute, rallies that involve chants for the genocide of Jews and incite attacks on Jewish institutions and Jewish people should be called what they are: hate rallies. And any movement that does not disavow this behavior or encourages it should be what it is: a genocidal hate movement. No one who supports this kind of thing should have any kind of legitimacy or place in any sort of position of power. And the violence that they are trying to carry out needs to be treated with the seriousness it deserves. And it doesn’t matter where on the political spectrum members of the movement fall or what particular symbols they use.
If someone is calling for the genocide of Jews or otherwise inciting or committing acts of violence against Jews, you should treat their violent intent just a seriously whether or not there are skinheads wearing a swastika armbands. If someone can get away with calling for violence against Jews, and indeed committing acts of violence against Jews, as long as they don’t wear a particular symbol or don’t use a particular term, then you encourage antisemites to just change a few particulars about the aesthetic or terminology of their movement in order to be able to carry out acts of Jew hatred with impunity.
If you as a society, tell Nazis that they can call for the deaths of Jews and attack synagogues and discriminate against, threaten, attack and even kill Jewish people as long as they don’t wear swastikas or as long say that they are just being “anti-Zionist” or as long as they call it a “protests” then that’s what smart Nazis will do. And if you let them get away with it, you are part of the problem.
I'm not sure I understand. People make the Nazi salute, not because they're lacking salutes and it's just a symbol that means nothing. It comes together with attacks on Jews, calls to murder Jews, reading Mein Kampf and saying they will finish Hitler's job. And still: nobody thinks there's anything Nazi about it. We don't need to worry about them "just changing their aesthetic", because it's so common and acceptable today that they don't have to. "that’s what smart Nazis will do"
That is what smart Nazis are doing. That's exactly what antizionists are. They can't stop making Nazi salutes - because the entire antizionist ideology is so pro-Nazi. Not every antisemite is Nazi. But every Nazi is an antisemite. Technically, it would have been possible for antizionists to just be antisemites without adoring everything Nazi. But that's not the situation.
And we're still debating whether antizionism is antisemitism.