(( Semi-hiatus from rping until further notice. )) Dr. Robert Bruce Banner ; Nuclear Physicist ; Biochemist ; Science Bro ; Ticking Time-Bomb "I'm not leaving because suddenly you get a little twitchy." (( Marvel RP Blog. This particular Banner is a mixture of both comic canon (Earth-616) as well Movie!verse, though leaning more on Movie!Verse just because I know not everyone is familiar with the comics. Multiverse and OC friendly. FC: Mark Ruffalo. I track the tag #Bannersciencebro ))
“Whedon fought against it because he wanted to show that men and women can be great friends without having sex.”
this is a pretty great reason and if anyone else had given it, tumblr would be singing with praise. whedon could have done this with natasha and bruce, but the clint/nat friendship had already been established through their history so i get it.
also, “Whedon and the studio had the idea to pair up Banner and the Black Widow”
so it wasn’t just his brainchild. i understand not liking bits of aou (namely nat/bruce) but for god’s sake, give this guy a break. all you do is demonise him for things out of context. he’s not perfect, i know, but jesus lay off
I’m glad someone recognised the importance of Natasha and Clint literally being willing to die for each other and not because they’re fucking but because of their powerful bond I get that brucenat wasn’t a good option but Nat/Clint friendship is strong and real
Also there's the fact that the MCU is more closely modeled after the Ultimates run of the Avengers rather than 616. A lot of people do not know that Clint is in fact married to Laura and has children with her in this universe. Even fewer people are aware that Natasha kills said wife and children in the comics.
Whoopsie.
Literally there is this glaring fact that in the MCU, Banner cannot have sex.
And then we have Natasha who has used sex as a weapon and is treated as this deadly sex object! OBJECT A TOOL A MURDER MACHINE due to her training/brainwashing in the red room.
There would be no pressure from Banner in this universe for them to head to the bedroom for sex unless he wanted to do the horizontal monster mash instead. Literally no pressure on either side with this relationship to turn sexual. Wouldn't that be something of a relief, possibly, to both sides? I mean in the Incredible Hulk movie (with Norton) as soon as Betty got into a quiet motel room she was ready to jump Banner's gamma bones. Then there was this humiliating disappointment in the fact that Bruce couldn't get excited; "Not even a little?"
There's a good reason why Bruce likely didn't go back to Betty in the MCU. He already knew he could never give Betty the true love she deserves or the family they could have planned together or any of the fun stuff that makes said family possible.
But then here's Natasha who was willing to run away with him and create their own life without the baggage of their pasts or mistakes of their present.
But then she pushed him into a crater because the mission was more important than some silly semblance of love. Her dream was to be an Avenger. That's who she now.
Annnd Bruce/Hulk is likely back to square one, back to being what he's forced to be good at; a pariah.
Tl;dr It's a rather interesting and feasible relationship if you really stop to look beyond what's cliched and expected of two characters that have had to rebuild their lives from the fifth level of hell up more than once.
PSA: i am very slow with replies & i tend to be selective with the ones i do. i may or may not have the muse for it. please don’t think i am ignoring you or dropped the thread because i probably have it saved in my drafts. thanks for understanding. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
LOOSELY modeled after the ULTIMATES universe (1610), not 616.
That is why Bruce Banner (although not on purpose in the MCU but that’s a whole other discussion) was recreating the super soldier serum and didn’t turn into the Hulk via Gamma Bomb.
Betty Ross is more of an ex-girlfriend to Banner. They always have had a rocky relationship no matter what universe they’re in together.
SHIELD discovers Captain America, frozen. (And you can’t make me believe that FURY didn’t collect a sample of his blood when he was passed out, before calling fanboy Coulson to the scene)
Nick Fury is Samuel L. Jackson, ‘nuff said there.
Laura Barton is Clint Barton’s wife. They do have three kids together, although in the MCU they do not share the same names/ages.
Here are a few more things to also remember about this 1610 universe:
Natasha was married to TONY STARK for a short amount of time. She turned out to be a traitor.
She was also responsible for revealing the identity of the Hulk, screwing over Thor and having a hand in killing Clint’s family.
Later, Clint kills Natasha. Vengeance is served.
Also, Cap kicks the shit out of Bruce Banner when he’s at his lowest point, then Bruce gets locked away for a while. Also Betty belittles the hell out of him after the point. Who needs emotional support, anyways? Never Bruce Banner. Nope.
Hank Pym beats the hell out of his wife Janet and Cap has to kick his ass, too. But I’m totally fine with that. Even though Janet was sort of heavily flirting with Cap and there was a bit of a mess going on there too? Whatever.
Why am I telling you all this?
Because not everything in the comics should happen in the movies. Because not everything in the comics should happen in the movies.
Sometimes, change is for THE BETTER. Be thankful for what we’ve got, it could have been a lot. And I mean, a LOT worse.
I have so much to say about the whole Natasha/Bruce ship that is going on, and that I support and will defend it to the death since no one has two neurons to rub together anymore to create an intelligent thought about it. But I’ll have to save that long-winded essay for some other day.
"PROTECT BRUCE BANNER 2k15!! HE IS A MISUNDERSTOOD BUNDLE OF EXPOSED NERVES AND DESERVES ALL OF THE LOVE! HE IS TOO PRECIOUS FOR THIS WORLD!!"
After the latest Age of Ultron Trailer:
"THIS IS BULLSHIT BRUCE AND NATASHA CAN'T BE TOGETHER BECAUSE IT ISN'T COMIC CANON AND [insert cliched complaints here]!"
I mean, don't get me wrong. I'd give my left kidney to see Betty Ross in one of these movies, even just a name drop. It is bullshit that she has been wiped from the motion picture slate.
But, hey! Here's a few chewy tidbits to mull over:
In the comics, Bruce sleeps around (GASP!). Hulk sleeps around a-whole-frickfracking-lot (LOUDER GASP!). Betty sleeps around and marries other guys! HOW CRAZY IS IT THAT THESE CHARACTERS AREN'T ALWAYS ANCHORED TO EACH OTHER AND CAN HAVE RELATIONSHIPS AND LIVES BEYOND THE PRINTED PAGES!?! LIKE WHOA
HOW AMAZING IS IT THAT MARVEL TURNED DEAR BUTLER JARVIS INTO A FUCKING KICK-ASS SASSY-FRASSY A.I.
AFRICAN AMERICAN NICK FURY ANYONE?!
MISS ASS-KICKER 'FUCK THE PATRIARCHY' PEGGY CARTER SOLO SERIES?!
REMEMBER WHEN EVERYONE GOT PISSED BECAUSE MARK RUFFALO REPLACED EDWARD NORTON?!
I'm not saying that this relationship is going to be as groundbreaking as Ruffalo's performance as Banner, but;
If any of you have learned anything from the past decade of these superhero movies, let it be that:
Comic canon does not always traverse into Movie Universe. Marvel knows what they're doing. Joss knows what he's doing. Maybe it's all just a hallucination/Mind-fuck thanks to Scarlet Witch. Just to give these two characters even MORE REASONS NEVER TO TRUST THEIR OWN MINDS OR EMOTIONS. It's not like Bruce needs any more reasons to hate himself and wish for a quick death every day and not this slow struggle for dominance over a body he's essentially just renting time in. it's not like Natasha needs her Red-Room days to come back into full swing because of some INHUMAN's(not mutant here!) knack at mind-control and phht she doesn't need any sort of real connection with another lost soul in this crazy fucked up universe because she's just a killing machine.
But what about the 'after-party' scene? They seem pretty comfortable around each other there. (Well, sorta-- Bruce looks like he's just there to keep everyone from bitching at him for being the asocial of the group since Clint probably had dibs on that title first. But that's a whole other can of worms.) And then the short scene between Hulk and Widow? There's something more to this than what meets the eye.
But, nah. They don't deserve each other, am I right? The Russian assassin is just trying to seduce him so she can jab him in the neck with a syringe and finally kill him, rid the world of one more Monster.
C'mon, guys. Focus. Both Natasha and Bruce probably enjoy playing head games with the other. Bruce likely helps her get over some fears of him while she reminds him that there isn't always an ulterior motive to everyone's interactions with him.
Cripes, man. Just let them be HUMAN for one fucking scene. Is that honestly too much to ask? Even if it is looking more and more like a dream sequence. Don't take that away from them(Bruce), too...
...
Who am I kidding.
Everything is going to blow up in Banner's face no matter what. We all know that. He's never allowed to be happy. Ever.
…but it’s still evolving. I think he does feel more comfortable with himself and his relationship to Hulk, but that confidence definitely gets shaken during the movie. He’s sort of left behind in waiting as the secret weapon, the nuclear bomb. I feel like we haven’t even scratched the surface with Hulk, as far as his character goes. The technology just hasn’t completely been available, and I think we’ve sort of been ignorant about the approach, like, what can we do with the Hulk? Yeah, he’s great and it’s exciting when he freaks out and smashes, but there’s a whole character there from the comics, who can talk and has a personality. Is it always just rage? I think there’s a battle of identity going on between him and Banner, about establishing dominance, and what troubles Hulk in a very primal way is Banner, because he’s the only thing that has any control over him. That sets up an interesting dynamic that hasn’t been explored yet.
Mark Ruffalo on the exploration of Hulk’s character in Avengers: Age of Ultron. (via the-mcu-report)
Betty snatched up a napkin, forgetting about the sixth or so shot sitting in front of her in favor of scribbling down some notes and doodling out diagrams, lest Sober Betty forgot how much of a genius Drunk Betty was. “It’s not impossible…” She was muttering to herself now, the cogs in her mind working against the haze of alcohol. “If we introduce my blood and a small dose of gamma radiation to a cluster of frog eggs…Frogs do exhibit an ability to learn, that wouldn’t be too far out of the realm of possibility. Whaddya say, Bruce. Live fast, die never, terrorize the world with amphibians. Who would dare challenge us?”
"Aww, Bruce, I think your bikini figure is much nicer than Tony’s any day. He’s got the hips, but he’s got nothing on your ass.” She winked, grinning. It was always, always amusing to needle Bruce like this. “Maybe the step after this is thermo-nuclear squirrels?”
“With the right amount of exposure to the gamma, I could easily increase their intelligence so teaching them to play fetch will be a lot easier. And since frogs can live without their lungs, your corrosive blood could be stored there like two packs of white phosphorus ready to be ignited. At least for those to be used akin to kamikaze pilots…” Bruce gave an amused huff as he reached for the shot glass Betty had neglected during her pens assault on an unsuspecting napkin. Knocking it back, the physicist managed to stifle a cough and instead turned it into a hoarse chuckle at his ex-wife’s wicked scheme. It really was a good thing neither one of them had turned completely evil during their, at times, questionable careers. Even when they both had the best of interests to the world at heart, something always seemed to turn their good deeds on their head.
“I believe we terrorize the world enough without an army of amphibious henchmen at our disposal. Besides, it’s more fun doing everything with your own two hands, right?”
As if on cue he lifted a hand towards the bartender with two fingers pointed up, ordering another shot for Betty and a beer for himself, but her…compliments, made him nearly fall off his barstool. He wasn’t quite blushing, but there was some color starting to stain his cheeks. Easily hidden behind a hand as it scrubbed away the amused smile hanging on his lips.
“ – -I suppose you would know best.”
Bruce cleared his throat and picked up the opened beer bottle as soon as the barkeep set it down in front of him.
“And Ferrets. Thermo-nuclear ferrets and squirrels. The thieves of the animal kingdom. Perfect for the real James Bond styled heists.”
Who knew taking an evening off with Betty would have spiraled into this mess of hypothetical irradiated animal mobsters?
"A Goliath frog, then. That should make for an interesting boom, if that’s what you’re aiming for.”
Bruce actually allowed himself to chuckle that time.
"I sincerely hope PETA isn’t eavesdropping in on this conversation, or we’re going to look like two very horrible, animal hating terrorists. But, ah…no. Unless you want those heels returned to you equipped with repulsor thrusters…-I’d prefer never to see him in anything you wear. I have enough nightmares to sift through.”
"Maybe I can work on infusing my blood with the frog’s blood, so when it does go boom, things start to sizzle…” She mulled. Why she wasn’t in the weapons industry was a mystery, the woman certainly had some interesting ideas.
"Oh, please. We’re not very horrible. Just moderately horrible. If they don’t like it, I’ll sic my frogs on them.” She said it with so much drunken earnestness it was hard to tell if she was joking.
"—-I don’t know, I think he’d look pretty good in my bikini. He’s got the hips for it."
"Right, because poison dart frogs aren't toxic enough in nature. And that way you can melt bank safes as well blind the enemies that didn't die in the initial shock wave. I knew I married you for a good reason." He leaned back in his chair with a smirk and shook his head incredulously. "We're right on our way to becoming an irradiated Bonnie and Clyde couple. All we need to do is teach some of the frogs to play fetch." It was an entertaining notion, turning to the dark side with such a creative method of warfare at their disposal that didn't directly involve their gamma powered persona's. Betty's mind was a wonderful, and slightly frightening thing.
"Tony frequently works in the labs in nothing but his underoo's. He does not have -- y'know what; I will never be drunk enough to start debating my rival's bikini figure. Let's go back to discussing the weaponizing of frogs. That's far the more sane subject."
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