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not to use this blog solely for discoursing and then leaving every few weeks but. its literally hilarious to see people who used to lose their shit over you being “aphobic” grow up, start thinking critically and become exclusionists too like .... cool good for u !! ur a little late tho ! we’ve been over this ! multiple times where have u been !
jk rowling just sits around her multi million dollar home and thinks “how can i make my series more racist” and just goes out and does it. she’s so brave
There’s something I don’t get.
Everyone’s cheering about Davey and Les being Jewish and stuff. And that’s awesome!
But..
They’re also shipping David with newsies (ex: javid, dot, ravey, dutchie etc.). Accoring to the Torah, homosexuality is wrong in the Jewish community.
My point is it’s not ok to take something about someone and ignore the baggage that comes with it just to help yourself and/or your ship.
(I’m not coming at anyone rn. Please don’t take this in a bad way and come @ me. Just trying to understand things.)
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-inamostauspiciousmanner
1) this was the worst ted talk I’ve ever seen
2) why can’t someone be gay and jewish exactly? Sure u mentioned that the Torah says homosexuality is wrong, but so does the Bible. Do u think Christians can’t be gay either, or is do u only think this for other religions besides ur own? Quite frankly, this whole post comes off as hugely antisemitic and homophobic. I know u said in the replies that u don’t feel like it is, but guess what? Just bc u don’t feel like something u said is harmful doesn’t make it ok. Thinking that making a post about how it’s bad to write jewish characters as gay IS antisemitic and homophobic, regardless of whether or not u feel like it was. Think before u post next time, mayhaps?
Learned my parents had perished in a terrible fire at Claire’s
(Perished means killed)
So were you at Claire’s when you heard the news, or did they die at Claire’s?
You sure do talk about Newsies a lot for someone who doesn't care anymore
Omfg oomf snapped.... wig! go off legend!
There’s something I don’t get.
Everyone’s cheering about Davey and Les being Jewish and stuff. And that’s awesome!
But..
They’re also shipping David with newsies (ex: javid, dot, ravey, dutchie etc.). Accoring to the Torah, homosexuality is wrong in the Jewish community.
My point is it’s not ok to take something about someone and ignore the baggage that comes with it just to help yourself and/or your ship.
(I’m not coming at anyone rn. Please don’t take this in a bad way and come @ me. Just trying to understand things.)
Thx for coming to my Ted Talk
-inamostauspiciousmanner
Wow, this is a pretty offensive post!
First, if you’re still ‘trying to understand things’ you really shouldn’t make a post like this, and phrase it as facts. People who are happy that Davey is Jewish are allowed to ship him with other newsies, but the implication of this post seems beyond shipping. Gay people existed in the 1890s, and so did gay Jews. If Davey were gay that wouldn’t make him not Jewish anymore, and his religion doesn’t automatically make him straight. I’m gay and a practicing Jew. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Pointing out specifically his being Jewish (and he is jewish, canonically) as an obstacle for shipping is kind of shitty too. The same reasoning would stand if he were Christian or Catholic (which it’s highly likely that most of the other newsies are); all Abrahamic religions are traditionally against homosexuality.
Religious and non-religious newsies would be persecuted for being gay in Canon-Era, not just David. It was the 19th century. But, assuming you’re talking about Modern!AUs, you can still make David gay. Gay Jewish men have been accepted by Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism, and though there’s still a lot of debate, Orthodox Judaism generally doesn’t care much about your sexuality.
Basically, people don’t have to write David as an atheist to ship him with boys. I don’t know how to tell you that gay people can still practice their religion. Saying it’s not okay to ship him, alone, with other newsies because, what, he’d be stigmatized? Because Jewish people can’t be gay? Your post comes across as very ignorant and talks down to Jewish Newsies fans, especially gay Jewish fans. Please think before posting next time.
To add some more on that because apparently my point wasn’t clear enough last time I reblogged and what thedelanceybruddas said reminds me:
You don’t choose your sexuality. Being Jewish doesn’t make Davey inherently straight. You’re being antisemitic AND homophobic, but that was obvious already.
You just don’t want him to be gay, huh ?
this also ignores the internal conflict that comes from being lgbt & religious which can be a beautiful plot point. it took me three years to come to terms with the fact that i am very very bi and still very very catholic. they’re not mutually exclusive. i can’t come out to my friends or my family because of the rules of the church. i am so scared that i will come out to someone that i shouldn’t. you can hc davey as straight if you want - but not because you also hc him as jewish. do not raise those who use religion as an excuse to be homophobic.
newsies revival, but everyone is played by poc.
So now that the shiro guy from voltron is confirmed gay how long til they kill him off
mush is a poc character and newsies live white washed him for absolutely no reason
@inamostauspiciousmanner why are people so selective about historical accuracy lmao? and only bring it up to make the argument that Ummm No POC would have existed in the 1800s so there’s no point even trying to have more diverse casting in the year 2018!!! if you genuinely cared about historical accuracy you’d talk about the historical demographics of newsies at the time that indicate there were a lot of female newsies + that a large percentage of them would have been jewish given the racial make-up of new york but surprise nobody talks about that ! i wonder why ! it’s always “protect our innocent white baby uwu how DARE u have a black character” lol and there IS a lack of characters that are poc hello? there’s like 30 generic identical white men and like… a literal handful of poc in any production so idk which productions you’ve been hearing about but i’d love to see them :)
god you know what? why do i even bother arguing it’s clear that none of this is going to get through to you people bc you’re dead set on protecting nick masson who is a shitty actor and a shitty person and also a GROWN MAN who doesn’t give a fuck if some random teenagers on the internet complain about his casting. https://francissulivan.tumblr.com/post/171155648602/francissulivan-tbh-i-care-more-about-newsies-as read this if you’re interested in hearing more about the argument of “historical accuracy” but i doubt you care enough
black people didn’t exist in the 1800s i guess
yeah obviously ? they were invented after the release of lin manuel miranda’s popular musical hamilton. PLEASE educate yourself!
i haven’t been on here in so long i forgot how much i genuinely despised the newsies fandom lmaoo
mush is a poc character and newsies live white washed him for absolutely no reason
@inamostauspiciousmanner why are people so selective about historical accuracy lmao? and only bring it up to make the argument that Ummm No POC would have existed in the 1800s so there’s no point even trying to have more diverse casting in the year 2018!!! if you genuinely cared about historical accuracy you’d talk about the historical demographics of newsies at the time that indicate there were a lot of female newsies + that a large percentage of them would have been jewish given the racial make-up of new york but surprise nobody talks about that ! i wonder why ! it’s always “protect our innocent white baby uwu how DARE u have a black character” lol and there IS a lack of characters that are poc hello? there’s like 30 generic identical white men and like... a literal handful of poc in any production so idk which productions you’ve been hearing about but i’d love to see them :)
god you know what? why do i even bother arguing it’s clear that none of this is going to get through to you people bc you’re dead set on protecting nick masson who is a shitty actor and a shitty person and also a GROWN MAN who doesn’t give a fuck if some random teenagers on the internet complain about his casting. https://francissulivan.tumblr.com/post/171155648602/francissulivan-tbh-i-care-more-about-newsies-as read this if you’re interested in hearing more about the argument of “historical accuracy” but i doubt you care enough
mush is a poc character and newsies live white washed him for absolutely no reason
kwick janelle monae doodle
-tla
honestly just stick with using “women” when trying to declare women as your target audience, theres no effective or sensible or sensitive way to capture the nebulousness of nonbinary womanhood and if a nonbinary person recognizes that your statement is relevant to them then im sure theyve already evaluated their relationship with womanhood as contentious but not absent
keiynan lonsdale → key earring
me: im okay
me: *thinks of how david “davey” jacobs first came to the newsies so closed-off and skeptical and how, throughout the time he knew the other newsies, began to grow as a person and become closer to the others to the point he started picking up their speech patterns and body language and celebrates the strike victory with them when before he met them he probably wouldn’t have cared and how he truly becomes best friends with jack despite not necessarily liking him at first because working with someone and seeing their faults and their insecurities can truly bring two people together*
me: *tears in my eyes* yeah, im okay
One, two, three, four — you’re the one that I adore! Five, six, seven, eight — don’t run from me cause this is fate!
