PercyIsAwesome

I have absolutely no idea what I'm going at any given moment

[nerdpoe]

There's an up-and-coming Tech Giant, called Fenton Works, and Batman is determined to prove that the company is a front for a villain.

Danny, after his parents turned from Ghost hunting to being the first official Ghost Anthropologists, decided to repurpose some of their weapons.

And, well, there was a contest being run by Wayne Enterprises; whoever can design a robot that will help the environment got prize money and a grant.

Danny, in all his mechanical engineering prowess, was bored. So he designed a thing. Repurposed the Fenton Guns into a cute robotic tortoise that would clean the beach.

It spiraled from there, and now Fenton Works is the leading name in green technology that's cleaning up the Earth bit by bit. Sea Dragon robots that clean oil and trash from the ocean; beach tortoises that clean the sand and beach and deposit their hoard of trash into designated receptacles that Danny uses as material to make more robots; Cryptid "stalker" robots with long legs that delicately patrol forests to perform "fuel management" and clear out the underbrush to help manage wildfires; moving gargoyle robots that sit on top of skyscrapers to help clean the air with huge sail-like wings, etc.

Basically, Danny pulls a Doctor Elisabet Sobeck, but with less world ending and more actually helping. (Not that the world ending was Elisabet's fault, of course, but different franchise)

And due to the number of times aliens try to attack and rogues send their own robots to attack people, naturally Danny installed self-defense protocols, along with one single golden rule written into the very OS of every single robot; Save Humans Whatever the Cost.

Problem is, Batman has never seen robots like this not be used for evil purposes, and he knows that their power source (a closely guarded Fenton Works secret) is some sort of liquid that glows green.

He really only knows of one liquid that glows green.

So he's determined to find everything he can about Fenton Works, because there's no way that Daniel Fenton isn't actually a villain in the making.

Danny's just thrilled for the chance to work with Wayne Enterprises.

[evilminji]

Oh this? This is BEAUTIFUL. Especially since there is no way in hell Aquaman is gonna let him touch a hair on this boy's head. You think Atlantis DIDNT threaten to sink every last one of those Sea Dragons? They aren't fools. Those were Threat Shaped.

Fenton had to come in front of a TEAM of Atlantis finest, who of course, agreed to sign NDAs, to explain WHO they worked IN DETAIL to their satisfaction. The boy was glad too. Those Dragons have fuckin Atlantian GAURDS now to prevent external tampering.

He even made Atlantian "Air" purifiers in the shape of jellyfish to clean up the waters near Atlantis. Insure the young, elderly, and infirmed had clean water to breathe. After all the shit humans have pulled towards Atlantis? Absolutely NOT. Danny Fenton both CLEARLY a few fish short of a school AND a the most precious baby boy in all of Atlantis. Let him make his helper animals.

They're pretty sure he has some sort of compulsive NEED to help.

And also? Save Humans Whatever The Cost? Imagine that. No REALLY imagine it. Being out at sea or camping way out in the middle of NO WHERE when some invasion hits. The sky splitting open.

Death starting to rain from above.

You have no where to hide.

Can only look up in horror. Scream and hold your kids, who you just wanted to make memories with, as you watch DEATH get closer and closer. You're crying. Alone. Will anyone even find your family's bodies?

Then SUDDENLY?

The sea or tea line SPLITS. Like a titan rising from the deep. You've seen them, meandering on the horizon. On the news. Those Fenton Work Green Works projects. Pretty and harmless, just poking along as they slowly save the world. Made to look non-threatening.

It doesn't look non-threatening now. It glows a poisonous green. Some giant SEA DRAGON or SPIDER like THING. Firing a concentrated beam of SOMETHING that cuts straight though the aliens about to tear your family apart. Flinging them back and away. And suddenly?

You are in the shadow of that colossal beast. As it fires, again and again. As the world BOOMS and shakes, full of fury and smoke. You feel so small. But... but the Green Works beast is... protecting you? Every attack that should have hit your family, it takes.

It's once pristine body, slowly gathering cracks, then holes, then missing chunks.

Somewhere in the world, superheroes force the enemy leaders back. The sky starts to clear. The Green Works beast backs away, teetering, barely holding. An automated message plays, "We are sorry for the scare. We here at Fenton Works prioritize lives over property. If anyone is injured, please, seek medical aid immediately. There is an emergency beacon and kit in this robot. Deploying."

A box pops out to either land with a thump or splash, sitting or float just in from of you, as the Green Works beast just... falls.

And it's like watching some giant and brave animal DIE in front of you. Maybe it's because of how it's shaped. Maybe the fact that it save you. But you can barely see past the tears as you struggle to open the emergency kit. Turn on that beacon, so help can find you.

And the only reason you're ALIVE is because of some cleaning robot you never gave thought too. And now it feels like it's dead because of you.

I imagine such stories make the news. The grieving faces of kids who's school bus was protected by a gargoyle. Of fishermen protected by Sea Dragons. Hikers who are only alive because of those walkers.

I imagine NONE of that reassures Batman. It is, in fact, the most terrifying sort of charm campaign he could imagine. Humanity LOVES these robots. Believes them benevolent. Bruce? He needs to be SURE.

[blueflipflops]

God when that happens you'd better bet that humans are going pack bond the hell outta those beasts. Heartfelt stories shared across the world. People getting tattoos of their fave Green Works beast. People visiting the beach petting the robot turtles. Sailors tales of the sea guardians that protect them. People putting silly little hats and gloves for the gargoyles so that they won't "get cold" at night. These robots are very friend shaped, Batman! We love them!

[evilminji]

Oh that EXACTLY what's gonna happen. And it's not like Fenton works doesn't have beacon trackers in their tech? That's really expensive tech! That Weirdos keep trying to steal or mess with! Of COURSE he has trackers in them. A way to tell when one is rendered off line.

Invasions are a nightmare to clean up from. You send out rescues teams, have to find your robots, most of which are TRASHED because, well... people were in danger. Even the mouse-bots are down. They are literally just build for infrastructure inspection and minor maintenance. But a Universal Command is a Universal Command.

Imagine that CHAOS. People crying and holding bits and boxes of "their hero!" Outside of Fenton works offices. Crowds simmering on the edge of RIOTS because everyone is upset and desperate to see the robot that saved their LIFE fixed up.

Some of them drove hundreds of miles. There are urban robots, forestry robots, beach turtles, literally every gargoyle that was IN the city. Because Every. Single. Robot. Turned on the Invading forces.

They just... stopped. Turned around. And opened fire. A city wide "Not Today, fucker." But it COST them. Being the first response? Made them the first TARGETS too. Before the Heros, before law enforcement, first responders, anyone. The invaders clearly assumed they were a planetary defense system. Acted accordingly.

So now about over 9 out of every 10 Fenton works Robots are down.

Their technicians are scrambling at full speed to repair and release. It... would be a PERFECT time, for Brucie Wayne to offer his help. Arthur is glaring DEATH into the side of his skull. His eye promising terrible, terrible retribution if Bruce messes with Fenton works while they are down, but...

He has to know.

Has to be CERTAIN.

Besides, if they ARE benevolent? Wayne Tech HAS the work force and history of charity outreach. They can help. Would you prefer LUTHOR?

(That's not the only Tech name in the game and you KNOW it, Batman.)

[mayfay]

Ooo, I Love this idea

This would 100% be a collaboration between Danny, Sam, and Tucker. Danny handles general design and mechanics, Sam figures out purpose and has a heavy influence in some designs, and Tucker does the programming side of things (could also have Jazz giving suggestions to make them more appealing to the public cause they? Also got that robot trauma. Batman has it cranked up to 11 but the general public is in a similar boat). Of course as things spiral this’ll change.

A small turtle that cleans up the beach? Simple, easy, no problem even without much experience. Sea Dragons that filter pollution, avoid disrupting sea life, navigate around terrain and animals, don’t struggle with sea water damage, have decent damage output, are resistant to tampering, and are adaptable to unexpected circumstances? Now we’re in the big leagues and things have gotten complex. Tucker needs support to handle raw coding, Sam needs people willing to spitball good ideas to maximize efficiency, Danny needs so many subordinates, and they need a way to effectively and cheaply get required resources and manufacture on a large scale without risking someone putting in a flaw they can take advantage of. This can be supplemented by hiring on staff and upping security checks before releasing new bots but there’s still some core problems. Gotta make money, get resources, and security can fail. How can they get around this? Ghosts. Soooo many ghosts.

Almost every ghost has an obsession, some of which are harder to fill than others. Protection? Everyone wants to fight so just find a territory and defend it, pretty easy. Space? If you’re in the infinite realms you’re screwed. Gotta find work arounds by designing custom territory or escaping through a portal or summoning and hanging out in a living realm that probably lacks ectoplasm. And what about blob/animal ghosts? They don’t have much of an obsession from what I understand, but they also don’t have a ton to *do*. Want to get ready for winter? Screw you, the infinite realms don’t have a central sun, go look for a territory with a weather cycle or a natural portal. Tons of stuff that like that, just, ghosts struggling to fulfill their natural obsession or desires. Enter one ghostly boi/ghost king. Danny can send out a message across the realms, ghosts can get a chance for a semi-monitored vacation to a living realm AND get a mechanical suit that somewhat resembles their preferred form. All they gotta do is not hurt people or the machines programming will override their control and report back. For animals, blobs, unfulfilled ghosts, and those looking for parol? Put me in that mech boy, I gotta see the world! And in case of invasion? They even get to fight! They haven’t gotten a good fight since their last break! Of course some ghosts like Technus might cause problems but that’s where the ectoplasm infused defenses come in and once things get moving all mechs try to have at least 2 others within supporting distance in case one goes rogue.

That doesn’t solve all the problems of course, gotta deal with manufacturing/repair and resource gathering unless they want to be reliant on local infrastructure, which is finicky in the face of alien invasions or large scale fights. So what to do? Gather and make it yourself. Of course you still want to outsource when possible, good for company image, local community’s, and taxes. But when funds are low or infrastructure is strained? After an invasion hits and your main factories are still rebuilding? A backup is Incredibly important. So where will they get these mysterious resources and factories at little to no cost? Well, they have portals, mechs, and space resistant ghosts, so the solution is pretty obvious. Find a few far out systems no one cares about that are filled with desired resources and start digging. Get some factories that run semi-autonomously and some ghosts in charge of design so each mech is at least somewhat fit for their particular ghosts and you’ll be good to go. The only problem, some ghosts want compensation and they’ll need large amounts of ecto to run their machines. How to go about this? Well, there’s a very convenient source of very powerful ecto and tons of it in one sector that’s already been mostly destroyed. Kryptonium. Set up a permanent portal in Krypton’s general area and harvest the place for kryptonium ghosts can eat like candy and the mechs can use as batteries to hold their ecto.

Cut to Batman figuring out tons of these mechs come from no known origin, are holding some form of sentient creature that flees when released (looking for a portal to report back) that reports claim are mindless evil beings (research needed but it’s not a good sign), hold krytptonium and some glowing green liquid way to similar to Lazarus water, reports from the lantern corps of human-like design factories found in a far off region of space mining down a planet, and the whole world becoming smitten with these cleaners/weapons. My god, they’re clearly an alien race setting the Earth up for assimilation. Clean the place up, butter up the populace, and then ask to settle down. If Earth refuses they already have tons of powerful weapons littered across the planet and the ability to crack the world for resources if it’s Truely a lost cause.

Danny’s gonna be having a great time

[chapelseed]

You know what's missing from this?

Bat-bots

Built to clear out denser pathogens and gas the gargoyles can't as well as purge spyware with sonic precision.

At least three are at every major landmark in Gorham.

[bet-on-me-13]

Even better, giant Swarms of Bat-Fentrons who fly out whenever there is a Chemical or Gas Attack and latch onto people's faces to act as Gas Masks.

They prioritize Elderly and Children, but theres always enough to get the rest of the adults as well.

Imagine if Covid happened in this AU?

Fenton Greenworks is all of a suddem inundated with requests for millions of Bat-Fentrons for people to use as Masks at work, and Pets when they are home.

In a single year Bat-Fentrons become one of the worlds most widespread type of Pets. After the Pandemic most people keep them because they pack bonded the hell out of them.

Practically every Gothamite in the City has their own pet Bat-Fentron. Kids get them for their Birthdays and brag about them to their friends at school.

[fandomnatic]

If people are leaving Wattpad because of the censorship, then coming to AO3 only to beg for censorship what's the point? It’s called Archive of Our Own for a reason, it is ours. For us and by us.

Because apparently it needs to be spelled out, I’m writing out some of the unwritten rules of AO3:

Don't like, don't read - you can have your own opinions but if you don't like it just scroll past, it's that easy. Let it be.

Read. The. Tags. - the tags are warnings of what the story will include. That is your guide. If there is something you're not comfortable with in the tags then scroll past. The AO3 tagging system is genius and lets you filter out the things you don’t like, so you don’t even have to see the stories you might not be comfortable with if you don’t want to. Use the tags.

Do not spread the stories outside of fandom spaces - fanfiction is for the fans. Especially when it’s RPF it is not to be referenced or brought up to the people who it is about. They are all very aware that it is made but that doesn’t mean they want to read it or know about it. I don’t care what you say, it is unavoidable and as long as it is not widespread and stays in its own space it is not harmful. It is up to the fans to respect that. (That being said if the people who the RPF fics are about search them up or reference fics themselves that’s a bit different and the rules change a bit.)

Respect the authors - the authors spend their own time writing stories, many of which are genuinely incredibly written and well thought out, for absolutely nothing in return. You get to read pieces of work for free by authors who are doing it for free. Do not go to the comments and complain or say they should have done something else or report because they wrote something you’re not comfortable with. And respect the authors wishes when they say not to share their work anywhere else.

Basically just respect fandom spaces, keep them separate from reality, and mind your own business. It’s so easy.

It’s a very under-appreciated thing to have an archive where people can put their work out for the world to see and make art that can be appreciated and easily accessed by other people on a wide scale, and it needs to be protected.

[moonfly7]

What if Plagg and Tikki never had dedicated holders before?

Like, what if there was a world where all the other Motherbox miraculous have been handed out and used before, but not the ladybug or black cat?

(TLDR: Eldritch god Tikki and Plagg love their strange squishy humans, and will crush anyone and anything that makes them cry.)

All of the other Kwami have experienced gaining, having, and losing human partners, but not Tikki and Plagg, as they have always been deemed too powerful and too dangerous to give to others, and they were rarely, if ever, used by the Guardians themselves, and if they were, it was never long enough to build any kind of connection. To the point that, if they ever give a kwagatama to anyone, they would be unable to contact anyone with it as they have never truly had past holders.

In a world like this, I like to imagine that either Master Fu was pushed to the edge of desperation by Hawkmoth and didn't see any other combination of Miraculous that could stop him while protecting Paris, OR, Plagg and Tikki came to that conclusion, and went out and chose wielders without permission.

Either way though, I think the results would end up the same.

Plagg and Tikki have never had a Human of their own before. They've only ever been able to here their sibling Kwami gush or whine about their holders. They had no idea what to expect, especially not from untrained children. But in the end, they learn the others were right: there is NOTHING quite like having your own human.

Plagg starts out trying to be aloof and disinterested. They are gods, after all, deigning to work with humans so as to not rip apart the fragile material world with their might. It would be silly to be anything less but flippant and relaxed like a deity before a worshiper.

So quickly does that fall apart once he's actually with Adrien. His human, no, his kitten, is the kindest creature he has ever met. And though he is very sheltered, he also far from naive, with a whip sharp mind and a protective streak a mile wide. But when it comes to himself, Plaggs chosen cannot lift a finger in self defense. He tucks his head and lets blows both metaphorical and literal rain down on him. This too smiley, too innocent, goody-two-shoes is the opposite of the unstoppable force of nature that Plagg represents.

So why is it that this small human child is the first being besides Tikki he has ever felt loyalty too? Why does his heart ache when the boy cries, and his anger surge when he sees how little Adrien's father cares for him? What has this human done to him?

Plagg doesn't know. Possibly can't know, even. But he knows he does. He knows this little blonde kit is his, and rules of the guardians be damned, he will do whatever it takes and whatever he wants to protect this little scrap of human and keep him happy.

Tikki, for her part, had gone into this new experience excited to meet her human. To finally interact closely with one of the most complicated lifeforms of this world she and Plagg had created together when they were still one being.

She had all these ideas for how she would shape the young champion. That she would create a paragon of virtue, a perfect shining hero. An example for all others for the proper way to act, to be. Not just as a miraculous holder, but as a human and sentient being. She went in fully expecting to follow every rule the Guardians had laid out, and to act as a wise and kind, but also impersonal and detached, mentor.

That plan survived barely two weeks with Marinette Dupain Cheng.

The poor thing was a kind, brave, and creative soul, who Tikki nearly crushed under the weight of her lofty expectations. The girl ran herself ragged trying to be what Tikki, and the order, wanted her to be. And it nearly broke her.

Tikki learned for the first time exactly how fragile human children can be, and how much pressure her human already put on herself. As the god of creation carefully helped the young designer recover and rebuild, she witnessed how few support systems she had, how little confidence she possessed, and how lonely and isolated she felt.

Tikki abandoned her lofty dreams of being a widened guide and teacher, her future plans of a perfect hero, for the simple task of being the lonely girls friend and the goal of trying to make her smile despite the stress she was under.

So soon did her zest for the rules crumble when she finally began to care about Marinette in a way she never had for anyone but her destructive other half. How could she insist that Marinette only use her powers to fight evil when swinging through the air on a dark Paris night gave her such joy? How could she insist that her duties as a Holder came first, when the poor girl hadn't seen her few friends in ages?

How could Tikki insist that Marinette must remain virtuous and righteous when that filthy false fox tried to ruin the few happy things her precious human had left?

I'm just....mystified and fascinated by the idea of a Tikki and Plagg that are more directly godlike and Eldritch as they've been mainly cut off from close contact and relationships with humans before, but who are also unable to stop themselves from becoming utterly enamored of their first, and possibly only, holders.

The other Kwami have had millennia to learn to let go, to let human things happen, and to stay out of their holders everyday conflicts. But Tikki and Plagg were likely alone in the miracle box so often before Fu's mistakes. And even though they've had their fellow Kwami for a human lifetime or two, they've still never truly experienced a partnership or friendship this close. I think the idea that they'd become over protective and borderline irrational about their chosen safety is a very likely outcome from all of this.

Also, I'm just a sucker for eldritch beings of immense power legitimately and honestly caring about tiny squishy humans, and very much near constantly overreacting about it.

Also, if fu tried to take their miraculous back in this worlds Feast, they might honestly just try to kill him. Damage to Paris from their actions be damned. They are not leaving their kids.

I also wanna explore like, Plagg urging Adrien to explore his more destructive desires(mostly healthily), and Tikki cultivating Marinette's creative and artistic talent. Just, them pushing their chosen holders to more deeply connect with their domains.

[bet-on-me-13]

Idea for how Tikki and Plagg decide to choose their own Holders: Master Fu tried to send out other Heroes first, and they all failed.

Like, if The Guardians were so strict about never using the Black Cat and Ladybug unless absolutely necessary, then it follows that Fu would not immediately go for the Nuclear Option at the first sign of danger.

Maybe Fu chose 2 other Miraculous to hand out at first, like the Fox and Bee or something, and handed them off to new Holders? And what if they failed immediately? Maybe Hawkmoth stole them, maybe Fu recovered them, either way, the first set of Heroes who tried to go against Hawkmoth were defeated instantly.

This would change a lot about the early reactions to Hawkmoth. He would be even more feared by the average citizens of Paris because he had already beaten the Heroes who tried to stop him, and if he took their Miraculous then he would be even stronger than before. He would have a lot of Negative Emotions to choose from.

It would also heap a whole lot more pressure on Marinette and Adrien, as they have to reassure the citizens that they won't fail like the others did.

Also, if this is the first time Tikki and Plagg have had ACTUAL Holders, then its entirely possible that even the Order of the Guardians had no idea what was possible with their powers. Sure they may know the basics of fixing damage or destroying objects, but they never explored farther than that.

The only limits to the power of a Miraculous are their imagination, and with this particular set there is no preconceived notions to limit them.

[moonfly7]

Ok yeah, I actually love all of this? Kinda gonna go in reverse order here:

First off, absolutely yes, there is no reason for ANYONE to know what Tikki and Plagg can fully do with a dedicated holder, even Tikki and Plagg don't actually know. Which means that we could potentially see a variety of new and interesting powers pop up as they get their footing.

I absolutely adore the idea of Tikki, trying to be wise and mystical, just absolutely making shit up about how to wield her energy because she legitimately has no fucking clue how it works for humans beyond the very basics of a lucky charm.

"Close your eyes, yes, thats it. Now just....feel the creative energies flowing through you. Imagine not what you need, but what your problem is. Imagine the entirety of the issue and push for a solution. Push until you feel the power draw away and something manifest before you!"

"Tikki! I think it's working! I feel it!"

Tikki internally: "Oh thank goodness, I had no idea if that would work"

And she flat up never realizes that this method gives her holder shockingly more control over and understanding of the lucky charms she's summoning.

Plagg 100% does not try at all to hide that he doesn't know. He'll answer every question with "I dunno" and "Figure it out, your a smart Kitten" and it takes Adrien weeks to realize that Plagg isn't being an asshole(this time), he just legitimately has no clue at all.

"Do I have to touch them to use Cataclysm? Why can't I just...project a blast of the energy at stuff?"

"Shoot kid, I dunno! Fuck it, give it a go."

Answer: Yes he can, but it is in fact, really important that he does not miss. So when dire, he'll do it, but it's more a snipers technique, not a run and gun.

As for previous heroes trying and failing, I actually think thats a brilliant idea. It would hammer home how desperate things are, and explain why they're doing something that the Order and the kwamis have always deemed to dangerous. Especially since he's literally after the Ladybug and Black Cat. The only reason to expose them to danger, especially when they normally keep them safely locked up, is if they have no other options.

It would also add to why Paris is so supportive, obsessive, and protective of their two heroes. Because they've literally watched others try and fail to protect the city. But these two teenagers do it nearly daily at times. This is why Paris seems to have a much higher tolerance for some of the crazier moments of collateral damage and other issues the heroes have, because one, the cure fixes everything, and two, they have seen exactly how bad things can be. They have seen how scary Hawkmoth is. At this point, they are just happy anyone can hold him off at all.

It would also definitely put more pressure on our young duo, which might even explain why we see evolutions in their abilities faster. They need them to keep up with this villain that has quickly become the boogeyman of Paris.

[bet-on-me-13]

Even more ideas based on the First set(s) of Heroes who tried to defeat Hawkmoth.

Because I don't think Master Fu would resort to using the Ladybug and Black Cat immediately after his first attempt failed. Maybe not even his 2nd attempt. Or the 3rd.

I think he would rather go through every single other Miraculous in the Miracle Box before even considering using the Ladybug and Black Cat.

Because The Guardians have been keeping the Original 2 Miraculous under Lock and Key for Thousands of years for a Reason. Its frankly a miracle they didn't just seal the Jewels away in a hiidden sanctuary like they did with the Prodigious.

Would this version of Master Fu ever think it was worth the risk to release the most ancient and powerful Magic in all of existence for anything less than the imminent end of the world? I don't think so.

So Tikki and Plagg would have to take matters into their own hands.

Master Fu is panicking because not only are the most powerful magical relics in the world now in the hands of total strangers, but this is exactly what Hawkmoth wanted from the beginning. He wanted to draw out those specific Miraculous, and now he has a shot at getting them.

But at the same time they are effective. More than effective, they're winning. Will he choose to let them keep fighting Hawkmoth and potentially beat him, or will he try to reclaim the Miraculous to stop Hawkmoth from claiming them?

Also, what would have happened to the Miraculous he sent out already? Did Hawkmoth steal them, or did Master Fu save them? Or are some of them scattered across the City, waiting to be picked up by anyone lucky enough?

Actually, would Hawkmoth even know about the Wish if the Ladybug and Black Cat have never had dedicated Holders?

The Guardians must have used it at least once to have it written down in the Grimoire, so what Wish did they make on it? Would it be relevant at all? Would it be the reason the Ladybug and Black Cat have never been used before?

[moonfly7]

What if Plagg and Tikki never had dedicated holders before?

Like, what if there was a world where all the other Motherbox miraculous have been handed out and used before, but not the ladybug or black cat?

(TLDR: Eldritch god Tikki and Plagg love their strange squishy humans, and will crush anyone and anything that makes them cry.)

All of the other Kwami have experienced gaining, having, and losing human partners, but not Tikki and Plagg, as they have always been deemed too powerful and too dangerous to give to others, and they were rarely, if ever, used by the Guardians themselves, and if they were, it was never long enough to build any kind of connection. To the point that, if they ever give a kwagatama to anyone, they would be unable to contact anyone with it as they have never truly had past holders.

In a world like this, I like to imagine that either Master Fu was pushed to the edge of desperation by Hawkmoth and didn't see any other combination of Miraculous that could stop him while protecting Paris, OR, Plagg and Tikki came to that conclusion, and went out and chose wielders without permission.

Either way though, I think the results would end up the same.

Plagg and Tikki have never had a Human of their own before. They've only ever been able to here their sibling Kwami gush or whine about their holders. They had no idea what to expect, especially not from untrained children. But in the end, they learn the others were right: there is NOTHING quite like having your own human.

Plagg starts out trying to be aloof and disinterested. They are gods, after all, deigning to work with humans so as to not rip apart the fragile material world with their might. It would be silly to be anything less but flippant and relaxed like a deity before a worshiper.

So quickly does that fall apart once he's actually with Adrien. His human, no, his kitten, is the kindest creature he has ever met. And though he is very sheltered, he also far from naive, with a whip sharp mind and a protective streak a mile wide. But when it comes to himself, Plaggs chosen cannot lift a finger in self defense. He tucks his head and lets blows both metaphorical and literal rain down on him. This too smiley, too innocent, goody-two-shoes is the opposite of the unstoppable force of nature that Plagg represents.

So why is it that this small human child is the first being besides Tikki he has ever felt loyalty too? Why does his heart ache when the boy cries, and his anger surge when he sees how little Adrien's father cares for him? What has this human done to him?

Plagg doesn't know. Possibly can't know, even. But he knows he does. He knows this little blonde kit is his, and rules of the guardians be damned, he will do whatever it takes and whatever he wants to protect this little scrap of human and keep him happy.

Tikki, for her part, had gone into this new experience excited to meet her human. To finally interact closely with one of the most complicated lifeforms of this world she and Plagg had created together when they were still one being.

She had all these ideas for how she would shape the young champion. That she would create a paragon of virtue, a perfect shining hero. An example for all others for the proper way to act, to be. Not just as a miraculous holder, but as a human and sentient being. She went in fully expecting to follow every rule the Guardians had laid out, and to act as a wise and kind, but also impersonal and detached, mentor.

That plan survived barely two weeks with Marinette Dupain Cheng.

The poor thing was a kind, brave, and creative soul, who Tikki nearly crushed under the weight of her lofty expectations. The girl ran herself ragged trying to be what Tikki, and the order, wanted her to be. And it nearly broke her.

Tikki learned for the first time exactly how fragile human children can be, and how much pressure her human already put on herself. As the god of creation carefully helped the young designer recover and rebuild, she witnessed how few support systems she had, how little confidence she possessed, and how lonely and isolated she felt.

Tikki abandoned her lofty dreams of being a widened guide and teacher, her future plans of a perfect hero, for the simple task of being the lonely girls friend and the goal of trying to make her smile despite the stress she was under.

So soon did her zest for the rules crumble when she finally began to care about Marinette in a way she never had for anyone but her destructive other half. How could she insist that Marinette only use her powers to fight evil when swinging through the air on a dark Paris night gave her such joy? How could she insist that her duties as a Holder came first, when the poor girl hadn't seen her few friends in ages?

How could Tikki insist that Marinette must remain virtuous and righteous when that filthy false fox tried to ruin the few happy things her precious human had left?

I'm just....mystified and fascinated by the idea of a Tikki and Plagg that are more directly godlike and Eldritch as they've been mainly cut off from close contact and relationships with humans before, but who are also unable to stop themselves from becoming utterly enamored of their first, and possibly only, holders.

The other Kwami have had millennia to learn to let go, to let human things happen, and to stay out of their holders everyday conflicts. But Tikki and Plagg were likely alone in the miracle box so often before Fu's mistakes. And even though they've had their fellow Kwami for a human lifetime or two, they've still never truly experienced a partnership or friendship this close. I think the idea that they'd become over protective and borderline irrational about their chosen safety is a very likely outcome from all of this.

Also, I'm just a sucker for eldritch beings of immense power legitimately and honestly caring about tiny squishy humans, and very much near constantly overreacting about it.

Also, if fu tried to take their miraculous back in this worlds Feast, they might honestly just try to kill him. Damage to Paris from their actions be damned. They are not leaving their kids.

I also wanna explore like, Plagg urging Adrien to explore his more destructive desires(mostly healthily), and Tikki cultivating Marinette's creative and artistic talent. Just, them pushing their chosen holders to more deeply connect with their domains.

[bet-on-me-13]

Idea for how Tikki and Plagg decide to choose their own Holders: Master Fu tried to send out other Heroes first, and they all failed.

Like, if The Guardians were so strict about never using the Black Cat and Ladybug unless absolutely necessary, then it follows that Fu would not immediately go for the Nuclear Option at the first sign of danger.

Maybe Fu chose 2 other Miraculous to hand out at first, like the Fox and Bee or something, and handed them off to new Holders? And what if they failed immediately? Maybe Hawkmoth stole them, maybe Fu recovered them, either way, the first set of Heroes who tried to go against Hawkmoth were defeated instantly.

This would change a lot about the early reactions to Hawkmoth. He would be even more feared by the average citizens of Paris because he had already beaten the Heroes who tried to stop him, and if he took their Miraculous then he would be even stronger than before. He would have a lot of Negative Emotions to choose from.

It would also heap a whole lot more pressure on Marinette and Adrien, as they have to reassure the citizens that they won't fail like the others did.

Also, if this is the first time Tikki and Plagg have had ACTUAL Holders, then its entirely possible that even the Order of the Guardians had no idea what was possible with their powers. Sure they may know the basics of fixing damage or destroying objects, but they never explored farther than that.

The only limits to the power of a Miraculous are their imagination, and with this particular set there is no preconceived notions to limit them.

[moonfly7]

Paris's Favorite Stray

You know, I've seen a lot of AU ideas where Adrien runs away from Gabriel and is more or less homeless on the streets of paris, and while those are an interesting perspective to explore and an excellent story to tell, they always seem to focus on how miserable and starving and out of his depth Adrien is. Like, running away is always described so bad that it really feels like he might have been better off living with his abusive father.

And I get why, an average kid in the real world would definitely not be having a good time. But Adrein Agreste isn't a regular kid, he's got superpowers. Sure, he needs to be in the suit for those, but the suit only has a time limit when he uses Cataclysm, as far as I'm aware he is completley fine to just run around as Cat Noir as much as he wants otherwise.

In my head, it makes sense that Adrien, being locked up and cooped up his whole life, upon being given this insane power, immediatly realizes he can use it to escape his dad. not temporarily, but forever. With Plaggs help, he can weave through the manors security. He can break out without even being seen. He can escape not just to go to school, but escape completely and totally. Afterall, what can a fashion designer do to stop a superhero?

And despite a lot of fanfiction that makes it so that they don't get nutrients when eating in their transformed state, there really isn't anything in cannon about that. And the citizens of Paris definitely wouldn't mind feeding their hero. In fact, if anything, I like to imagine that Paris rather fondly refers to the hero that seems to be nearly constantly on patrol as "Paris's Favorite Stray" or just "Our Stray Cat".

So thats food covered, and as for shelter, well, despite it not really being legal, there are loads of people who practically, and sometimes actually, live in the catacoms under paris. All he needs is to scout out sleeping spots beforehand in supermode, and I doubt he'd have much trouble.

The last thing though, is that realistically, no one can live alone. Being isolated would wear down on him fast. Especially because I imagine the main reason he ran away to begin with is because his dad wouldn't let him go to school, so again being isolated wouldn't be any better.

But the thing is, Adrien would only have run away because he knew that with Plagg, his dad can't stop him. So...realistically...who can stop him from going to school? He's already enrolled. At least until his dad reports him missing, and who knows how long that will take, he can enjoy the regular life he wants.

Cue what I consider the bread and butter of this AU idea: Adrien detransforms to go to school and makes all the usual friends and things, only he is WAY more free and happy, and at the end of every school day he gets out of the school building faster than anyone thought possible, in case his dad sends someone to stake out the school.

How does Adrien keep going to school if he's a runaway and reported missing? Simple: The Gabriel brand cannot afford the scandal, or the child protections investigation, that would come from reporting Adrien missing. And Adrien KNOWS that. So so long as he shows up for any photoshoot he knows his father isn't trying to use to ambush him, or escapes every time he's ambushed, then he's fine. And with the Cat Miraculous as a secret weapon, there isn't a lot Gabe can do. He can't even risk using Akumas to hunt his son down, lest others realize Adrien is gone.

Adriens friends at school know that Adriens homelife is weird. They were able to throw him a party, but not allowed to do it at his house, and Adrien insists no one ever talk to his dad. And he can be a little squirly on occassion, but no one guesses that he's essentially homeless for a long time. In the end, I can't decide if it should be Nino who Adrien basically shows his place in the catacombs too, or if Marinette realizes it via her "friendly stalking" of him.

Cat Noir though, is an even funnier part of this story, because there is NO beating the allegations that he's homeless. He is literally Paris's favorite stray. Chat is essentially constantly on patrol, so Paris gets to know their cat in a way that they just don't see ladybug. They still see Ladybug as the heroes leader and as Paris's savior and all that, they hold her in a LOT of awe. But with Chat, it's more casual. They see Chat everyday. He stops more muggers of old ladies than the cops and rescues more stuck pets than animal control or the fire department combined. It's not uncommon for especially busy parents to call out to Chat as he jumps between rooftops to ask him to pop in and watch their kids for a moment while they run an errand. Or for Chat to help a worker or deliveryman with a particulalrly heavy load if he happens to spot them struggling.

Ladybug is still the hero who purifies the akumas and makes everything perfect again, she's still Paris's savior. But Chat Noir is the cities lovable lifeblood, he fights akumas beside his lady, sure, but he also fights them by seemingly ALWAYS being available for a citizen to vent to, or to step in to stop a child being bullied and imaprt some lessons onto the children doing the bullying that they'll carry their whole lives.

Ladybug, of course, worries about her kitty. She's terrified she'll wake up one day and have a new Cat Noir just because her boy died of the cold shivering under a bridge, or wasted away without food. Boxes of pastries and other foods are often foisted upon him. And she never complains when Chat accepts food from resteraunts and vendors, because all she can think is that this is probably the first meal he's had all day.

Adrien, for his part, finds that the people of Paris, total strangers, make a better family than his father and that empty house. Andre the icecream man always insists he stop by for a scoop whenever he passes, and gives him love advice like a doting uncle or grandpa, sometimes about Ladybug, sometimes about what to do when/if he ever moves on.

The old ladies at the fabric shop on his morning patrol before school always pile him high with new scarves and hats and mitten whenever the weather turns cold, with stern faces and insistence that he better come take a catnap in the store if it gets too cold out there, leaving a window on the fifth story unlocked just for him, though he tries to never use it.

There is a cafe near the end of midnight patrols that always keeps a bag of baked goods and a massive cup of coffee waiting for him, and he always gives the manager the biggest hug he can in thanks. She always tousels his hair and frets, she's got boys his age she says, and she worries for his sleep during the school year with all his patrolling.

The italian place near his favorite hidden entrance to the catacombs always keeps a dish of some delicious meal or other warming for him, and the staff is always excited to see him, on their breaks, as he consumes plate after plate of pasta dishes, they ask him about his day and tease him about the details he feels he's allowed to share about school. They all silently catalogue every mention or lack thereof about his home life, and swear many a blood oath against the clearly abusive shitstain this poor hero seems to have fled from, though they know nothing that could help them narrow down who the bastard actually is.

Just.... an Adrien whose home is the city of Paris, who finds joy in helping others, and who gets back as much as he gives. Kinda like a reverse cryptid almost. Strange yes, mysterious even. But unknown or not understood? No, no they know the boy just fine, and they wouldn't trade him for the world.

[bet-on-me-13]

I want to know how Adrien avoids Gabriel's using his Amok to command him to go home, but maybe he doesn't have it? Maybe Adrien, in one extra "F U" to his dad, stole his Mother's Ring to keep a piece of her with him at all times.

Maybe he stole both, maybe he only stole one and that half of his Amok is enough to let him ignore the commands of the other half? Idk, I just want Gabriel to be fuming at the situation and have no convenient way to fix it.

[bigfatbreak]

Speak of the Devil

part twenty-seven previous / next

[one-paper-bag]

reblog if you’re asexual, support asexual people or really really want a crossbow for literally no reason.

[savanir]

Finding Andy (Curry)

Danny zips around the massive dark aquarium with a net carefully snatching up all sorts of colourful marine life before going up and gently depositing them in smaller tanks that Sam prepared.

"You do realise this is extremely illegal, right?"

"Taking these poor endangered fish from their homes is extremely illegal. We're righting a wrong here Danny, and you still owe me one"

Danny sighs and goes back down but keeps talking.

"I just don't want to be accused of stealing again"

"Tucker got us covered, we'll be fine. You just keep fishing Danny, I think we're almost done. "

Danny carefully goes through the dark depths of the aquarium again and it's then that he sees a much bigger shape dart away from him.

Sam said this entire thing was filled with poached endangered marine wildlife so everything in it needs to be retrieved. Aka, Danny goes in pursuit.

It takes some doing but eventually Danny gets a hold of it and it's worryingly little girl shaped.

He holds the little girl in front of him and just kinda looks for a second at this squirmy child that can apparently breathe underwater.

"Sam! Sam, holy Fffffffuudge"

"What!? What??"

"There is a baby in the aquarium!" He holds up the squealing little red head who has apparently decided what's happening now is funny actually.

"A baby!?"

"In the aquarium!" He points down at the water.

"Why is there a baby in the aquarium!!?"

"How am I supposed to know?! Maybe these weirdos accidentally fished up one of Aquaman's people?"

"Oh my god, we need to bring her back!"

"How the ff-frick-" the little girl giggles and goes, "Fik!" Making Danny wince,  "-are we supposed to do that, I don't know where Atlantis is at Sam"

"Call the justice league?"

"Didn't they disband again not too long ago?"

"... shit, you're right"

Danny rushes to cover the little girls ears while hissing, "language" and Sam slaps a hand over her mouth.

"Sorry..."

Danny floats in a circle above the water bouncing the child who seems fascinated with his glowing white hair, "Okay, okay, here's an idea. Jazz has her drivers license. We'll do an impromptu road trip to the east coast"

"... yeah, sounds good, let's go"

Sam holds the little girl as Danny stacks up all the tanks filled with fish and they quickly leave the premises.

"Can I just say I love you hair little miss, Naturally dark red? if only I was that lucky."

The now empty tank is surrounded by a gaggle of awkwardly shifting henchmen.

"So who is gonna tell the boss we lost the princess?"

[savanir]

So far the road trip has been incredibly educational.

The gang has learned what a one year old eats, and how to change diapers.

They've also learned that there are a bunch of crazies out there that want  to steal a baby atlantean.

By now Jazz has fought a guy who called himself Black Manta in the new and improved Fenton exoskeleton. That battle involved a lot of lazers going in various directions.

"I thought Aquaman was an idiot to entrust her protection to a group of teenagers. But I'm starting to see his logic. You lot prepare yourselves, next time it won't be so easy"

And he'd been gone before they could correct his assumptions.

Then there was the swamp witch that Sam Out magicked with her own plant abilities.

"Curse you children, that royal blood will be mine!"

"Is she talking about me?"

"I really doubt it Tuck..."

Now they've finally reached the east coast and some big crustacean looking guy got sand guardianed by Tucker. Aka he's stuck up to his neck in the sand of the beach.

"You're only delaying the inevitable! Ocean master will have the child!"

The group just looks at him rather annoyed. 

Great, that means some other asshole is going to show up any moment now.

The up side to it all is that the little girl seems to love all the action. It would have really sucked if they had to soothe a crying child every time a fight happened.

[thatrandomsarahchick]

Meanwhile, Arthur and Mera track their daughter to the aquarium she was being held captive at.

Unfortunately, the Amity Park group are way too good at hiding their tracks, so the trail soon goes cold again.

[savanir]

So now that they have reached the east coast the next step would be to…

…

“Anyone any ideas about how we’re gonna find a legendary underwater city to bring the little girl back to her parents?” Sam asks while checking over the fish tanks in the back of their vehicle.

“This would have been so much easier if we could contact Aquaman directly somehow… do they have wifi underwater?” Tucker frowns at his PDA, “do they need social media down there?”

“Careful Tuck, I’ve read that Aquaman gets agitated at those kinds of questions,” Danny carefully lets the little girl play with the sand, making sure not to take his eyes off her after Jazz harshly told him to make sure to not let her eat any of it.

“Babies will put anything in their mouths Danny, be careful!”

Jazz reappears after locking the vehicle down, that thing isn’t going anywhere, not with the anti-ghost defenses active. they are also quite good against car robbers.

“So no brilliant ideas on how to get her back to her parents just yet?”

“It’s really annoying how we keep coming across or getting tracked down by weirdo’s and we still have no idea how to reach her parents…”

Jazz holds her hands out to Danny who hands the girl over to his sister.

“Okay, in that case-”Starts Sam, “we’ll just load all these fish onto the Manson family yacht that’s docked a little over there, and we focus on getting the fish home first.”

“Maybe a helpful atlantean will come to see what we’re doing and we can ask for directions.”

The group agrees to this plan of action and gets to work.

Meanwhile Arthur has a confrontation of his own with Black Manta who is clearly not at his full strength.

his helmet is rather… busted.

“So those brats have notified you of my attack.”

"...Brats?"

“The group of meta teens that you recruited to be your daughter’s personal little protection squad.”

Arthur opens his mouth to say something along the lines of “what the hell are you talking about” before thinking the better of it.

“I’ll admit that their combat ability caught me off guard, but that trick will only work once Aquaman.”

Arthur thinks for a bit before settling on a ‘neutral’ viciously growled, “Leave my daughter alone”

Later he shares this new precious bit of info with Mera, “good news, our little girl is being protected by a group of well meaning kids who apparently can hold off Manta at least long enough to escape,” he remembers the fucked up helmet, “and deal some decent damage in the process.”

“And the bad news,” Mera asks while pacing.

“I have absolutely no idea where they went. And Manta knows about several young heroes through Tempest and Aqualad… so these teens are most likely complete unknowns.”

Mera hisses in frustration, “I want my little seastar back.”

“We’ll find her.” 

Both parents are very grateful for the fact that they now know that their little Andrina is alive and safer than previously thought, they can take a little bit of comfort in that.

[writer-of-fandoms-4321]

"Buba!" the girl's little nickname for him was cute, but mostly a call for immediate attention.

Danny made another ice ball. It was the only thing that was currently stopping the child from crying. She was ill, with something, likely a human thing too, but they didn't know what it was, and Frostbite hadn't been able to get them quick results, they had tried letting ehr slash around, keeping her diet well roudned.

but she was sick, and there was no getting around that.

so hey started shift, Jazz's singing lasted abotu an hour before she got fussy again, Sam and Tucker had, combined, lasted all fo twenty minutes.

Danny was still gong strong at three hours.

"Can't we just call the Justice League?" he muttered, watching their charge suck on the mini globe of ice.

________________________________________________ "My king, my queen!" "Aqualad, why did you call us?" "I believe we may have information on the whereabouts of the princess." that caught their attention.

"Where?" Mera hissed.

"Well, there is satalite footage of Black Manta fighting some-sort of exo-suit in this area of the east coast." he stood in fornt of a screen manned by Red-Robin, who was reveiwing footage while looking utterly exhausted,Authur didn't undersatnd how Bruce could work his childrne this hard, or place expectation on them that made them work this hard, but he wasn't one to judge. Aqualad continued" we managed to find a part of the footage where the vehicle is in veiw. Red's been tracking it-" "Somewhere on North Carolina's coast."

"...they are somewhere in North Carolina."

"thank you Red Robin." "no prob."

Perhaps Authur owed that boy some coffee beans again. Maybe from Columbia....

[orbitalpython]

Danny was struggling how was this child so... feisty. He was honestly getting tired from the overuse of his powers, so far he had kept her preoccupied for 6 hours before she fell asleep. He's tried calling Dani but she was 'busy in Korea.' When he asked which Korea she only said 'there's more than one?-' before her line went dead. And now he's tired. He didn't even want to call Vlad. Dan was off doing 'something'.

"Are we there yet?" Danny said already regretting speaking. He was still healing from the recent fight against the Ocean man guy combined with his extended use of his powers and he was drained.

"We should go south!" Sam protested cradling the now sleeping atlantian in her arms. "Are you serious Gotham is just a few states away!" Tucker said on his new mobile phone after his PDA died on him again.

This was going on for three hours now after the Mason yacht was blown up. Jazz wasn't much help and the child's sickness was getting worse. Heck they didn't have the money to bring her to the hospital and what would they say? 'Hey we found Aquamans child and the child is sick and we don't know what to do?' Yeah not the best option.

"Ok!" Danny said breaking the tension and most likely a rib. "Ok we are all currently in... very deep horse dung right now but we can't fight like this. Yes there are people after us. Yes we aren't at Atlantis. Yes we aren't that good at taking care of kids but we can't just allow all of that to cloud our reasoning."

Sam and Tucker calming down just looked defeated. Out of all of them Danny somehow suffered the most damage from the most recent fight. And Danny as of most days like these was right. The air once filled anger seemed almost depressing.

Sighing Danny turns to Tucker. "What's the lastest news story?" Tucker closes the map and opens up the news app. "Let's see uh lot's of stories... Uh oh. oh crap-" "Language." Danny hissed. "Sorry, but the news about the Justice League disbandment pretty old news appearently also apparently temporary... And looks like our digital foot print wasn't very discreet." "What do you mean 'temporary'? "

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Arthur was at his wits end how was four teens and a baby that hard to locate? He knew that surface searching wasn't like under water searching, his people had no real jurisdiction on land. But the Justice League had all hands on deck for this thing. And they were still spread thin as it is.

"I went to the last place the 5 were seen." Aqualad said coming in exhausted. "The local residents testimonies should help with finding her. " "Put... put it on screen."

The data did not lie the 5 were heading towards Atlantis just they were constantly getting stopped by villains who were trying to get his daughter.

"The data suggests they're heading south." Red Robin says sipping on his latest cappuccino. "No, they are going north." Aquaman says flatly. "He's right the latest finding suggests-" Aqualad says pulling a photo on screen. "They tried just GOING to Atlantis. But there's a destroyed boat in their way." "Not the right time for jokes dude."

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"Dude what flight goes to Atlantis?" Danny asks "Malaysia flight 370 if I remember correctly. " Tucker said before Danny smacked him upside the head. "I saw the meme Tuc not funny people died."

"Alright, let's head to Metropolis that's Superman's territory he might be able to help. In order to do that we need to head north. I'll drive." Danny said taking the Drivers seat. "Danny do you even know how to drive?" Sam responded. "I had to learn to drive the FGHFRV this isn't much different."

[savanir]

"Danny said he knew how to drive..." Tucker moans as he uses his power over sand to get the mud off of him while helping Sam with subduing the people currently attacking them. "In his defense, the gigantic water hand out of the lake caught us all off guard..."

Jazz in her ecto suit is surrounded by the ones she's taken out, currently holding up the one in charge, "you better start taking or I'll keep swinging."

She's giving him her best 'I'm disappointed in you' face.

The guy himself however is looking like he's about to throw up any moment now. Probably from all the swinging around she's already done to him.

"I'm simply following orders..."

"That's not good enough." She holds him up a little higher and the guy starts scrabbling at her armor clad arm.

"They say- they said, the one who controls the princess controls the king and the one who controls the king... Its- listen, listen just- please put me down."

Parts of the lake are frozen and even though that makes for a strange sight overall the lake itself now seems deceptively peaceful. That's until about five other men get thrown out of the water and land painfully onto land after which a rather angry looking Danny wades through the water and gradually walks onto the shore. With of course a happily giggling little girl in on his arm.

Tucker turns to him and asks, "What took you so long?"

"She's great at hide and seek, and there was a lot of kicked up muck down there helping her out."

Sam grins, she remembers what a hassle it was to get her out of the aquarium in the first place, "She looks better." Sam notes.

"It might be that Aqualady over here just needs to be in water more..." Danny sheepishly runs a hand through his hair.

"That would explain why we initially found her in the aquarium." Their relaxed musing is interrupted by a shout.

"What are you doing! you traitor! Are you betraying your own kind and actually giving in to this land dweller's demands!?"

"I would like my insides to remain inside!"

The other rogue Atlantean gets up enough to throw some kind of crystal at Jazz. The others react instantly and jump to push her out of the way while she's still holding the other guy. In a flash of light all of them vanish.

"You stupid idiot, now the princess is gone too!"

"Well at least I-"

A sudden rustling is followed by a green bloodhound running out of the bushes, he sniffs the air before saying, "Oh c'mon, You have got to be kidding me..."

Next thing the rogue Atlanteans know several other titans emerge out of the bush, some more elegantly than others. Raven closes her eyes in concentration, "I sense traces of teleportation magic."

"Yeah they were here literally a second ago, the scent I was following just vanished." Gar keeps snuffling around over the ground until he's at the exact spot team Phantom just stood.

"Where are they," growls Tempest while Nightwing has a hand on his chest. Meanwhile Donna and Starfire lift the busted car out of the lake.

"I bet our lord is absolutely losing it by now isn't he," is the only sneering reply he gets though. Dick has to use a lot more force to keep Garth back and he looks over at Donna who is already running their way.

Roy mutters to Gar, "does he want to have his teeth kicked in orrr...?"

Gar shifts into a bear, shrugs, and makes a 'idunno' noise. He'll gladly help Garth with the kicking though.

"I can trace the magic, Tempest." Raven's hands start glowing. And Garth finally let's himself get pushed back by his teammates muttering a soft apology to them that's tinged with frustration.

Dick takes him aside, "Garth I don't want to do this, but if you can't keep your head cool-"

"No, I'm fine, just," he pinches the bridge of his nose, "they were so close, that's all, I'm..." a long exhale.

"Raven is tracing them, we'll know soon. Take a moment, we'll handle these idiots."

Sam glares at the rogue Atlantean (who is sweating bullets while sitting on the ground.) And bounces little Andrina in her arms.

Jazz is a little off to the side calling her parents "Hey mom, dad, uhm.. just wondering, how much pressure can the Fenton ecto-exo-skeleton handle? ... yeah- like water pressure... uhuh, oh okay, hm? Oh, no, just curious you know, no reason. Hmhm... Danny is with his friends right now so he can't come to the phone, sorry. I'll tell him to call you guys back later, yeah. Okay. Love you too bye."

She hangs up and walks to Danny who is busy freezing a layer of impenetrable ice outside of his ecto shield bubble. Right now the bubble is the only thing keeping them from drowning and getting crushed under an ungodly amount of water.

"Mom told me that their trip got extended, so I guess that's something we won't have to worry about for a while longer. You doing okay Danny?"

"Yeah, don't worry, I'm just thinking about how I'm gonna get you guys out of here safely..."

"Well, I'll be fine in the suit apparently, it's made so I can bust ghosts even down in the marina trench." She says mimicking their dad's enthusiasm.

"What."

"Let's not think about it too hard."

Danny pauses anyway and then says, "...Seas' haunted"

Jazz does a fake gasp, "The Flying Dutchman."

"I'll get you Davy Jones!"

Tucker is busy fiddling with his phone in the meantime, "Okay so I'm done trying to triangulate exactly where we are on my phone and... we are very, very deep."

"Yeah no kidding, I could have told you that... but where deep." Sam sets the little girl down who finds the nearest sandy puddle to splash in.

"That's harder to say..." Tucker's phone simply can't get a good signal from any satellite for that kind of stuff what with them being this deep, and he wouldn't be surprised if more magical stuff is messing things up as well. The little girl holds a handful of watery sea sand near Tucker and the water just quickly glides out of it leaving desert dry sand in her hands instead, she giggles.

"Maybe our new friend can shed some light?"

Their 'new friend' would much rather just stay ignored.

His eyes glide over the four teens, fully aware what they are capable of now.

Sea plants are already curling around Sam's ankles unprompted, a good chunk of Jazz's suit is still keeping her protected and he's seen how smoothly and quickly the rest of it can latch back on to her again. Water seems to recoil from Tucker as more and more bone dry sand surrounds him and the impromptu ice dome is handling incredible amounts of water pressure without so much as a groan or a creak.

Yeah he knows he's out of his league here, the princess is incredibly well protected, as expected from their king really. He should have known better, they all should've.

"We're somewhere between the city Tritonis and Xebel."

Suddenly Andy gets fussy and for a moment the guy thinks he's fucked up until Jazz picks the little girl up and takes a little pot of mashed fruit for babies out of her bag.

"So that's not really as helpful as you might think it is, appreciate the clear answers though, Go on," Sam urges. In the background Tucker goes, "so there are like a bunch of cities down here then?" to which Danny responds with a, "Not now Tuck."

"Uh, this was meant as a pick up point, get the princess and-" "No you misunderstand, what I meant-" "Sam I think he's been living his entire life underwater, he might not know the names we use for parts of the oceans." "…hrm, maybe a map would help, Tucker can you pull up a map on your phone?"

Before they can put that plan into action however the icy walls around them rumbles as something latches onto the it, a something that looks like a big mechanical manta ray. It starts drilling into the ice wall with what appears to be some kind of laser powered apparatus.

Now Danny probably could just reinforce his ice and just not let them through… However~

He grins, "guys, I think our new ride just arrived." The others of team Phantom also get a dangerous look in their eyes and the Atlantean guy knows enough to shuffle backwards until he's pressed on the other side of the dome in hopes of avoided most of what is about to come.

[hdgnj]

#the wacky journey continues #now reaching new depths! #Team Phantom is gonna take the Atlantean ship. ditch that one guy and keep going #Tucker is gonna drive this time ;p #meanwhile Garth is understandably upset #it's a good thing he has his friends with him

I know it's a massive cliche. But how likely is it that Black Manta's sub would have Aquaman's number saved. For gloating and threatening reasons.

Tuck is fucking about with the buttons after they kicked the bastard out of his own ship. Clicks this one button and suddenly he has an angry Aquaman on the screen. Who stops and stares in confusion. Danny and Sam shove Tucker to one side so they can show off the baby.

Mera and Arthur just slumpmfor a moment. Their baby is ok. They now know exactly what to track to find her and these heroic teens. They can take their baby home soon. Hopefully without any other ambushes happening between the meet up.

Sam lights up, random thug they captured said where they were! Somewhere the royals will know!

[moonfly7]

......

..................Can anyone explain to me why I suddenly have the desire to write a MLB throuple AU that centers around Chloe Bourgeois being a manipulative little fuck with no concept of how to express her emotions and feelings, and an extreme possessiveness problem?

Because I am really, really enthused with the idea for some reason and cannot get that out of my head.

[moonfly7]

Ok, you know what? Fuck it, we ball:

Adrien was Chloe's. Chloe had known that nearly as long as she'd known Adrien. Before she even had a concept of romance, or dating, or marriage, Chloe understood that she wanted this strange, mildly inhuman ray of giggling sunshine in her life until the day it ended.

When they'd just been pudgy little four year olds, she had taken his tiny hand in hers on one of their then-frequent playdates, and, with a look far too serious and imperious for a child so young, told him very simply:

"You're my friend now. Mine. Stuff that's mine, I don't lose. I keep all mine. I keep you, Ok?"

And of course, being a four year old himself, Adrien happily agreed with a big toothy smile.

But Chloe never forgot that moment. She might not really remember the details of it of course, but she very distinctly remembers the day she decided Adrien Agreste would always be with her, no matter what.

Chloe Bourgeois takes very, very good care of what is hers. She might be a spoilt brat who gets everything she demands, but if she has it, she takes care of it. All of her possessions are always pristine, and Chloe despises getting anything she owns dirty in the slightest, not wanting anything to damage her things.

And Chloe Bourgeois is thrice as protective of the people that belong to her as she is her trinkets and possessions.

As showcased by the absolute public decimation of the first fan to ever break past a barrier and actually touch Adrien at a fashion show. Her dirtiest secrets were found and leaked within the night, and suddenly even the pettiest and most minor places of business in Paris wouldn't even look at her resume. Her sentences for assault and trespassing were set at the highest possible bar for the charges, and despite being just sixteen, a creative exception was found to try the girl as an adult. Not to mention that she was also made the face of a very public and successful campaign from a charity that was dedicated to raising awareness about sexual assault on men.

Those that even questioned what happened to that girl all assumed it was Gabriel Agreste that had organized the systematic destruction of her life and future. They were wrong, of course. Gabriel considered banning her from all future events and a public statement sufficient enough to deter repeats of this behavior.

Chloe Bourgeois however, did not. Because Adrien was hers, and she refused to give anything but her best in destroying anyone that hurt what belonged to her.

Chloe isn't crazy. Really, she isn't. She's watched Adrien's anime enough times to know what a yandere is, and she's positive that doesn't describe her. Sure, she's protective of her Adrikins. But she's not gonna murder anyone who talks to him, or kill his entire family just for being close to him(she'd certainly never hurt auntie Emilie for any reason, but she might kill uncle Gabriel if he doesn't get his shit figured out and stop hurting her Adrien, but that's because he's an abusive dick, not anything else)

Chloe is just a very powerful young woman with extreme influence, and basically zero limits on her privileges while in the city of Paris. Who wouldn't use those connections to protect the people they cared about most? Or to humiliate and torment people they didn't like. Yeah, sure, it isn't nice, but Chloe is the first to admit that she's a bully, the Queen Bitch of her school(and possibly all of Paris), but that just makes her an asshole rich person, not a psycho monster. Chloe can live with that quite happily, after all her mom is a psycho rich person who ruins everyone she dislikes, and her life is great.

Besides, it isn't like Adrien is the only person she protects like this. Sabrina is just as safe as her Adrikins, after all. Sure, she certainly doesn't love Sabrina like she does Adrien, but deep somewhere in her heart, she very much appreciates her only real female friend. Sure she never says it. And sure, she's a bitch to Sabrina too sometimes. But she never forgets 'Brinas birthday, and she never misses on what will make her loyal lackey beam with the biggest smile and wrap her in a bone crushing hug she pretends to barely tolerate.

And Sabrina knows it, too. This is just how Chloe is. She's not soft or explicit in her affections with anyone except Adrien. And really, after everything her best friends ray of sunshine has been through, and is still going through, she can't exactly blame her.

So yes. Adrien Agreste is Chloe's. Her first friend. Her first love. The man she's going to marry. The only person who's ever made Chloe feel like she's enough, like she matters without all the protections and acts and manipulations(even if she would never admit it). The only person that has ever seemed to help heal the gaping hole left in her heart the day a little Chloe realized her mother would never love her-

*cough* ahem.

Anyways.

But yes, Adrien was hers.

That's why she bullied uncle Gabe, as only she could, into letting Adrien finally attend school with them. That's why she set everything up to be absolutely perfect, perfect seats, perfect classmates(accept one...), perfect teacher, perfect day- everything was absolutely stunning and fabulous!

And then Hawkmoth appeared. And everything changed.

Because with Hawkmoth, came her.

The Scarlet Queen of Paris, enemy of evil, vanquisher of nightmares, and savior of pretty blonde heiress's who get thrown off of the Eiffel tower:

Ladybug. Paris's first, and best, superhero.

(And the only one, as far as she was concerned. The mangy cat could fucking shove off.)

And this, was a problem. A massive problem. An Utterly Ridiculous problem.

Because Chloe had done something she didn't think was possible. She'd found possibly the only person in all of Paris who was out of her league, completely and totally better than her and entirely unobatainable.

AND THEN SHE'D GONE AND FALLEN IN LOVE WITH HER!!!

And so she'd moped, but contented herself with being Ladybugs biggest fan and supporter instead. She still had Adrien, at least. Even if he had more friends now, and spent more time near Marinette than Chloe approved of.

But then she'd found the bee miraculous, and it had felt like maybe, finally, everything was lining up for Chloe Bourgeois. She'd be a famous hero now, too, on par with, or at least within spitting distance of, Ladybug.

The Bee miraculous, and it's adorable Kwami occupant, Pollen, we're going to be her ticket to the life she always deserved. Ladybug would love her, and her relationship with Adrien would go back to what it had once been before progressing into romance( and her mother would finally notice her and remember her name-).

And then, just in a snap, ladybug took it back, told Chloe she'd put everyone in danger because of her ego, and took away Chloe's chance at showing everyone how amazing she really was.

Chloe hated ladybug so much, but also loved her, and hated her even more the way only someone who loves you can.

And yet she held out hope. False hope. Hope she knew would eventually be crushed. Hope that, in another world, would crumble right in time for Hawkmoth to swoop in and take advantage of her.

But this is not that world.

Here, Chloe does not take the knowledge that she can never again be Queen Bee gracefully at the end of the Miraculer incident. She instead loses her temper on Ladybug and storms off to wonder the streets of Paris, fuming. Adding to the fire of her anger is that she fought off an Akuma for ladybug, and yet she couldn't even get a "good job" before her miraculous was taken from her for good.

Unaware that Chloe has already fought off an Akuma today, and isn't likely to be a prime target for hawkmoth, Marinette follows Chloe in secret as Ladybug, to make sure she doesn't get akumatized with how angry she is.

After a bit though, Ladybug loses sight of Chloe, and decides she'd be better off looking for her as Marinette so as not to arouse suspicion or stand out.

Following this logic, Ladybug ducks into an alley to transform, and unbeknownst to her, the bright red flash attracts the attention of Chloe, who wasn't as far away as Ladybug had thought.

Chloe sneaks into the alley, curiosity aroused by the flash, and, hidden behind a dumpster, she observed Marinette conversing with a red and black spotted Kwami she keeps calling "Tikki".

Now, Chloe may not have seen Ladybug enter the alley, but she isn't actually an idiot, despite what her classmates think. She, unlike most people, knows what a Kwami is. And Pollen had actually mentioned the name of Ladybugs Kwami a time or two. She knows who and what Tikki is. So if Marinette is standing there, feeding this little floating creature a macaron the same way Chloe once fed Pollen spoonfuls of honey, after the same kind of flash Chloe remembers from her own transformations and de-transformations....

Well, it can only mean one thing.

Ladybug is Marinette. Clumsy, stupid, nerdy little Marinette. Chloe's easiest target, her most ridiculous(and virtually only) rival for Adrien's affections.

Marinette is Ladybug. Gorgeous, brave, perfect ladybug, whose only flaw is trying to protect Chloe and her family from her own mistakes....

Caught between screaming in rage and bursting into tears, Chloe lets Marinette leave the alley unaccosted. She needs time to think. To plan. To know what she even wants now.

It takes time. Hell, it takes nearly a week and a half, but through her death spiral of conflicting opinions and ideas, Chloe comes out the other side with a surprising conclusion:

She isn't certain yet how she feels about all of the stuff this brings up for her, in fact she's almost positive these feelings will always be messy and complicated, but she has landed on thre things she is completely certain of.

Firstly, she is positive she still loves Ladybug, despite all her messy, complex feelings over Marinette Dupain Cheng, all the anger, derision, and contempt(and the jealousy she refuses to acknowledge), her intense near obsessive love for Ladybug outweighs her old grudges and feelings for Marinette, mostly anyways.

The second truth she akcnowledges is that Ladybug was always an unnatainable goal for her, even when she pined after her and stared dreamily at her photos, even when she was Queen Bee and fought right beside her, some part of her always knew it would never be. Because for someone like that, how could Chloe Bourgeois ever be enough? Hell, how could anyone be enough for Paris's perfect savior?

The third and final thing she realized, though, is the most important. Ladybug is unnatainable, Ladybug is perfect, ladybug is so much better in every way than Chloe Bourgeois that there is no reason for her to even tolerate the blonde girls mere presence, and the fact she had even done so at all was a blessing.

But Marinette Dupain Cheng?

Marinette "Bakergirl" Dupain Cheng?

Maritrash herself? The clutsiest, clumsiest, whackiest little weirdo nerd in Chloes entire school? The chief Peasant herself?

Chloe Bourgeois knows in her deepest heart that she's better than Marinette, at least at most things(it was damned unfair that someone so ugh, ordinary, was such a good designer. Bleh.). Marinette is far from perfect, she has none of Ladybugs grace, none of her confidence, and none of her nearly divine presence.

Dupain Cheng is cute where Ladybug is beautiful, giggly where Ladybug is stoic, scared and vulnerable with poisoned self confidence where Ladybug is boundless courage.

The point is, Marinette Dupain Cheng is human and normal where Ladybug is anything but.

But most importantly for Chloe?

Marinette is attainable.

Ladybug?

No, no she's certain she'd never be enough for Ladybug.

But for plain old Marinette? Chloe could be worth Marinette, could get Marinette with no make up, a second hand dress, and with zero cups of coffee.

And if she has Marinette....well wouldn't you know it, Ladybug comes with, free of charge!

And on top of Mari being, well, Mari, Chloe has another advantage in her little quest. She knows who Ladybug is. She has leverage, power, control over Paris's greatest hero. So long as she's careful, and uses that leverage at just the right time, in just the right way, she can have everything she's wanted and more.

Adrien. Ladybug. Pollen and her miraculous.

(Maybe even her mothers love? No, no beggars can't be choosers....)

it could all ber hers. But she has to be careful, she has to be smart, she has to plan until everything she does is 100% fool proof.

So, in furtherance of her new plan, the first thing Chloe does is go to therapy.

Not because she wants to, but because she needs it. She needs to get in control of her emotions, she needs to get techniques to calm herself down. She needs complete control of her reactions to upsetting turns and results. Because now, she keeps the most important secret in all of Paris, and she cannot risk Hawkmoth getting it. She cannot risk Hawkmoth hurting what she has already decided is rightfully hers.

She keeps all her plansa and desires from her new therapist, of course. And the jury is out on how much she can truly get from a professional with all the information she leaves out. But to her credit, she never lies to the therapist. She tells as much as the truth as she can, and she leaves it not truly a fixed person(not by a country mile), but with an understanding of some of the reasons she upsets people and(more importantly) how to calm herself down and remain in control.

Armed now with the knowledge of how to more easily make people like her(important for making Marinette actually like her despite the blackmail, because she doesn't just want Ladybug, but her love as well), how to better control her emotions, and a completely unwilling awareness of some of her deepest flaws(which she is doing her best to ignore, and failing at miserably), she sets off to bag a bug.

It's important to note that though this story starts directly after Miraculer, Chloe doesn't make a move until at most a week before the season 3 episode Ladybug, which if you don't recognize it off the top of your head, is the episode with the Sentimonster Ladybug, and the episode where Lila frames Marinette for pushing her down the stairs. And Ladybug itself happens like, the episode before the season finale and Miracle Queen.

This has gotten really long, and taken me like 3 days to write, so I'm gonna end this here. But coming soon will be me covering the actual meat and potatoes of this little AU, specifically Chloe and Marinettes interactions and what goes down when Chloe reveals that she knows her identity and lays out demands, as well as how this whole thing changed the series as a whole, and some of the wider effects it'll have.

We'll also get more into Adrien's role in this, and how/what happens when Chloe finds out he's Chat Noir.

The last thing I'll add is that this is going to be a Chloe Redemption idea, but I'm not doing it at any kind of speed. Chloe's improved some even by the time she confronts Mari, but it's mostly subtle stuff. She is, after all, still blackmailing her bullying victim into doing what she wants, with the intent of effectively seducing her.

This is because, at least to me, it makes sense that Chloe's idea of love is wrapped up in control and power. Her mother bullies and controls her father. She excerpts control over her kids, too. Chloe has basically zero idea what healthy love and relationships look like. Chloe is desperately trying to do better, whether she notices that or not, but she doesn't truly have a concept of what that would even look like. So a lot of her is defaulting to her instinct to just take what she wants, with a vague plan of showing Marinette, and eventually Adrien, how amazing it is to be hers, and how much she can love them, after. The important part is getting them, in her mind, and then she'll be able to fix any problems after the fact.

Is this absolutely unhinged behavior? Yeah, kinda. But Chloe's love map is all kinds of fucked up. If it helps at all, do note that Chloe isn't going to be forcing herself on anyone. She really is trying to date them and convince them to love her, she just doesn't feel safe doing so, feel safe being vulnerable, without total control of the situation. Is that despicable to do to people you claim to love? Yes. And the goal is to get to the point where she's confronting that and actually working on it. But at the start, Chloe is grasping at straws here.

How do you even make regular people love you when all you've known is neglect and emotional abuse, let alone someone who you've personally and intentionally hurt and harassed for years?

Chloe sure as hell doesn't know. And since she can't risk letting anyone else know Ladybugs identity, she can't ask Sabrina or her butler for advice. So, blackmail feels like a safe first step, that's logical, right?

(no girl, no it is not. 😭)

Obviously none of this is something I condone in real life, but it's something I find fun to explore in fiction.

P.S

Thinking of calling this the "Queen of the Hive" AU, for organization purposes in case this goes beyond my two total planned posts. Is that a good name? Please do let me know!

[mingareco]

I'm curious as to how Chloe's possessive love works with Adrien's desire for freedom, after all the reason why he loves being Chat Noir is just because of that, freedom.

While you are in AdriChloeNette gear, I am in Liladrien gear, but it does parallel a bit.

Where Chloe didn't have any role models for healthy love, Lila didn't as well, but she has enough experience pretending. Enough to say, if she puts her mind onto getting Adrien, she could perfectly pretend and mimic healthy love.

That said, I loved how im a fic I read, Lila felt this desire to own, to possess Adrien after getting a taste of his bright and warm love, yet she also knew that he would never settle for a golden cage, so she decides to do the next best thing, and simply be very close ALWAYS.

From what I gathered, this Chloe's love is exactly that, a royal class golden cage with all amenities, she's going to take the best care of her loved ones, but she will also own them.

Since Chloe is smarter than show (literally NO-FUCKING-BODY wants dumb characters) I'll assume that Adrien is smarter as well.

With Adrien being smart, he's not just book smart, he's observant. He sees things, hears things and thinks things even if he doesn't act on them. That is his current cage, he has to pretend to be Radiant, Carefree and Dreamy Adrien even if he wants to turn Kim's face into a mush for what he did to Marinette, or put the everliving fear into Lila so that she fucking behaves.

But he doesn't. That's not something Adrien™ would do.

What Adrien does is subtle things.

So he does just that. He minimizes the conflict between Lila and Marinette, kinda protecting both of them. He gives Lila an out before discreetly using his power.

And that is what I think he does with Chloe and her love. He knows her just as much as she does him, even if he had to quickly relearn a lot of stuff about her, but still he knows that it's her own version of love.

It's toxic, it's imperfect, but it's love nonetheless and Adrien yearns for love too, so he let's her be a bitch about it all. He let's her in on his amd Marinette's dates to brunette's dislike, he let's her decide what clothes to buy for him. Not always, but this whole thing is not one-sided which is why Chloe didn't give up.

No one understands why he does it when he's happiest when free, not Marinette, not Nino and Alya, not Felix, but they don't have to. After all, Adrien and Chloe are just damaged, neglected rich kids who for the huge part of their lives had only themselves, so it's just their thing.

I'm also interested in how would this Chloe react to her perfect Adrien being Chat "The Dumbass" Noir.

One option is her just living in denial.

"You are not Chat Noir, he's dumb and you're very intelligent, very polite."

"I literally just transformed in front of you..."

"I said, You are not Chat Noir!"

Option two is seven stages before she has to admit that her Anime loving, pastry eating, perfectly looking Adrien is someone who throws away his dignity and acts as a furry the moment the skin tight suit is on.

"I must say these clothes look pretty paw-some!"

"Adrien, I love you, but please, shut the fuck up."

And finally option three is her not being able to comprehend that someone can have two identities, so just like Marinette and Ladybug are separate people, Adrien and Chat Noir are too.

For example the two of them can be cuddling in ber room, watching some drama, or anime and everything is cool, everything is nice. She scratches his hair just how he likes it and he massages her feet after a shopping spree.

Then an akuma happens and Adrien has to go, so he transforms while next to Chloe, but she starts to beat him with a pillow, telling him to get the hell out of her bed. This The Room of The Chloe Bourgeois, and not a place for cat freaks.

Adrien has to put some work because her aim is very good, but each time it amuses him greatly.

Marinette is another cornerstone and variable.

She's known to be possessive and highly protective of Adrien, take Sublime for example, girl is a freak and is ready to go to freak lengths for Adrien.

While Marinette and Chloe had beef even before him, Adrien coming to their class didn't help one bit, if anything he became just another thing they are rivals for. If she is ready to stalk people just for talking to Adrien, then she must be straight up malding over how touchy and personal two blondes are.

I can't deny that I am biased against her when it comes to Marinette, but it would be absolutely funny if they have a rivalry, but then Chloe swaps to wooing her and this just makes Marinette hate her even more.

Chloe "invites" (tells) Marinette to come with her on a shopping spree, or to some fancy new cafe, and Marinette can't unsee a plot to humiliate her. Or even when she recognises that Chloe tries to make the baker like her, it's just a plot to get Adrien alone for Chloe's grabby hands.

Even worse if there's a third side in looks of Lila who ALSO tries to woo Adrien, and it's either a three sided war for (what they think) unaware Adrien.

He meanwhile just let the girls let out some steam. It's enrichment, no?

[moonfly7]

Honestly great points all.

And I have seen your posts about Lidrien! It's been very fun, I just had too many feelings about it to both make a post and write what I had been working on.

My current thoughts about how Adrien works out wanting freedom with also ending up with Chloe(and also marinette who, as you said, is pretty freaking possessive), is that Chloe is legitimately just not going to be able to actually control Adrien in anyway that he can't handle, or turn into a game.

Seriously, Adrien Agreste managed to find a way to sneak out of the home of Gabriel Agreste, the most helicopter parent to ever helicopter, both with and without magic cat powers. He has held a party in his nutso controlling dads house without getting nabbed. Heck, Adrien literally broke out of his house and managed to fabricate the paperwork to get himself into school without being found out until like, the last minute.

So do we honestly think Chloe, the same Chloe he grew up with, who he knows inside and out, and who he is extremely aware is hopelessly in love with him because his love and affection was for so long the only good and borderline healthy kind she had(just as she was and is for him), isn't someone that he can outsmart, out trick, or simply just defy if she squeezes too hard?

Chloe will at worst grump that he's been spending too much time with other people and not her, while Gabriel literally locked him in a padded cell in cannon. I can't see Chloe ever going that far, and so I just don't think Chloe has the raw indiferrence and churning awfulness necessary to actually control Adrien. Also she doesn't have his Amok, and probably wouldn't want it if she found it. She likes to think her charm is all she needs to keep Adrien, and she's right. She just doesn't get her way as much as she expects too or thinks she does. But when even Adriens "tricking" and "defying" still ends with her, him, and Marinette having a wonderful day out with the friends Chloe is begrudgingly begining to like, well... can you really say she's losing?

Marinette and Chloe, once they actually reach a stable point in this wild thing they call a relationship, are both really good and really bad for each other. Chloe teaches Marinette to actually stand up for herself, and Marinette shows Chloe why being nice actually feels good, and provides her with more of that affection and care her parents denied her.

They both also at times burn out the competitivness from each other, not just trying to outdo the other for Adrien, but also each other. Chloe vs Marinette gift giving battles are legendary.

Chloe buys Mari reams of that expensive fabric she likes, Mari uses it to make a gorgeous queen bee inspired dress for her. Which prompts chloe to get more gifts and surprises, rinse and repeat. Thus providing "enrichment" as you say and culling the worst of their competetivness.

But Marinette and Chloe also feed into each other something awful when it comes to Adrien. Because Chloe has heeps of influence and a possessive and combative streak a mile wide, and Marinette has a mind that categorizes everything, and the will and ability to literally track their boyrfriend throughout the city undetected if necessary. She has his entire schedule for like, a year out, that is some talent. creepy talent, but talent.

Alone, they were crazy enough. But before Chloe could only try to intimidate with her wealth and influence, and only when she was physically around. Before, Marinette could only know when other people were flirting with Adrien, she would make extremely complex plans, but never have the guts or materials to execute them due to her nerves and also Mari is always going to talk herself out of them because she's fundamentally a pretty good person.

Now though, they amplify each other. Because Mari is going to tell Chloe the moment someone new shows up, and Chloe can decide exactly how much they need to worry about it(reasonableness might vary here, lol), but even worse, Chloe would actually act on the crazier schemes that Marinette cooks up. So you know, this trio is a crazy little thing, but in general I think the chaos balances out well on a larger scale. Like, yeah they have some crazy days, but for the most part they calm each other down. Generally. Once they're actually at a healthy point in their time together. which takes awhile.

[mingareco]

LMAO, this is literally them

Chill Adrien and his two feral girlfriends who might kill someone, or kill eachother if he leaves them unattended.

It's often showed in fics how Marinette is the one who calms Adrien's Cat side down, yet somehow everyone forgets that it only works when she's Ladybug. When she's Marinette, she's themkst anxious vinrating molecule in the room and it's Adrien who is like a comfort dog who grounds her.

Because of this I'm very willing to see Adrien as not just shy, and polite boy, but chill, calculating and pretending one. Imagine Felix, but Adrien actually can behave nice and be genuinely happy and fun.

Imagine Adrien has to leave somewhere, so he asks Felix to pretend to be him, yet the girls clock the disappearence of their BF immediately and go apeshit. Poor Felix barely survives the day and wonders what the hell is wrong with his brother/cousin if he likes these two.

Except when he comes back he's in his Strict Parent mode and tells everyone off for the mess and it's terrifying. For Fe Adrien always was this bright, wide eyed naive kid who he had to protect (he's a brocon your honour) and suddenly he is scary.

Felix stays to observe (absolutely not because he wants to spend time with his sibling/cousin person) and learns that this MF was pretending all along. Felix thought HE was the smart, coldly calculating and reasonable one, while Adrien was the emotional, kind and outgoing one.

"How long?" he asks one day.

"I don't even remember."

"...why?"

"You always wanted to be the big brother."

Now that I think about it, almost everyone who loves Adrien, be it romantically or platonically, does so in a very possessive way. I'm pretty sure that once Felix is in Paris, you can't say there wasn't, or won't be a situation like in one @edorazzi comic page (which I sadly can't find) where the girls and Felix are arguing over who is going to sleep with Adrien.

"He's our boyfriend!"

"He's my brother!"

And then Adrien just goes:

"Fe can have his spot, but we're still gonna frick."

And that's how he makes him leave, funny business can happen or not, however you like, but the point is, this has to happen. Literally ANYONE who felt Adrien's love (Chloe, then Mari), or saw his true self (Lila, and then Felix) can't let go of him, and he has gotten used to it.

In the end It's Adrien, his girlfriend Chloe, his girlfriend Marinette, his twin Felix and Lila who is trying to woo him just going places like a polycule.

[bet-on-me-13]

I would love to see everybody else's reactions to this Insane Polycule.

Cause, this is centered around Chloe, Adrien, and Marinette, with Lila off to the side trying to squeeze her way in. But what about Luka, who is also in love with Marinette? Or Zoe? Or Kagami? Maybe none of them factor into thr actual relationship itself, but it would be so funny to see their interactions with them.

Also the Sane Classmates seeing Chloe and Marinette start "dating" after years of hating eachother. Or them seeing Adrien as the only normal person in their relationship, only to find out that there is a Reason he is the only one able to wrangle the other two.

[moonfly7]

30,000 year old Ladybug/Marinette but like, for realzies

I have gotten my brain stuck on a really cracky, hilarious AU concept.

Remember that time Mari jokingly said, as Ladybug, that she was thousands of years old?

What if that wasn't a joke? What if there was an Alternate Universe where Marinette was just an immortal stuck at this physical age forever?(to make this AU less weird, lets set that adrien and her are supposed to be at ages 18-20 and not like, 14. Small edit for my comfort+moral compass)

The idea here would be that even Fu did not know who or what he was really giving the miraculous too. Tikki does, possibly the moment they suit up for the first time, but she doesn't really mind? Especially not when she has an extremely experienced near immortal Holder. Tikki can keep this bug forever, if she's lucky and plays her cards right.

Obviously this would lead to Mari being a lot more mature in some ways(only some, she's still biologically locked in the developing brain stage), but she is in fact still an absolute mess around Adrien. Though this time, it's for e very good reason:

Marinette has not loved anyone in a long, long time. Like, thousands of years. Not romantic love, at least. After her age crested over a century she really stopped being attracted to people that were her biological age. Until she met Adrien. And she LIKES Adrien. He makes her face flush and her hands get clammy like she's 45 years old again. But Adrien is also only 18-20. He's a baby compared to Mari, a fraction of a fraction of her age. is it ok to even have feelings for someone when even the oldest humans on earth would be still far outside your age range?

Marinette doesn't know. And it's that extreme moral and emotional conundrum, combined with feelings she hasn't felt in a long, long time, that lead to her being a babbling mess around him. Her brain gets locked in self argument mode every time they do anything that could be even vaguely more than platonic.

All of Marinettes weirder tendencies and manic actions? The result of an immortal who, despite living through them, still struggles to adapt to the massive cultural shifts she's lived through, and sometimes still fucks up modern rules and sensibilities.

Marinette would be a lot more patient in this though, she's already a brilliant planner in cannon. So a Marinette with infinite time would have massive sprawling plans that take years to reach their zenith, and they'd mostly all work.

Also really funny things that come from Marinette being immortal:

Chloe is not actually a threat or a real bully to her. Instead, Marinette actually loves Chloe. She never had the chance to get the modern highschool/college bully experience when she was originally a teenager, because one, schools likely weren't a thing, and two, girls wouldn't have been allowed to go if they were.

So Marinette is absolutely fascinated by Chloe Bouregiouse. And she also thinks Chloe is hilarious. She struggles very hard not to burst out laughing as she plays shy, clumsy Marinette(the clumsy is not an act, thousands of years and she's still at least a little bit of a spastic mess on occassion). Chloe is her favorite entertainment. Every over-engineered insult, every petty mean girl sitcom thing, they are like the funniest part of Marinettes larp as a "regular girl TM". She also worries about Chloe though, and is, through careful manuvering, trying to slowly guide Chloe away from her shitty parents and into a better environment, better rolemodels, and a better life. It's taken some doing, but she's getting their. And honestly, the bee miraculous "accidentally" falling into her hands definitely helps speed up, especially since she hero worships ladybug, which Marinette also thinks is hilarious.(she was quite proud of herself for thinking of that queen bee scheme, she even had Fu thinking it was an accident. She of course, shared everything with Chat.).

If Chloe is funny though, Lila is her favorite mental dueling partner. It's actually kind of adorable to Marinette, because Lila is actually this young, and she thinks she's so clever. But Marinette saw through her day one. Like, almost all the way through her. Lila Rossi's manipulations are amateur at best in Mari's eyes, they can't even throw a true wrench in her 6 month plans, let alone the years long ones she's been putting together.(to explain how Mari has known the class longe enough to pull these things off: 18 year old Marinette is still pretty short and small, and can easily pass as 15-16 year old Marinette, so she did got to school with them, just not as long as she did in cannon because you know, no baby Mari to do school.)

The Akuma's are new though, and that's exciting. Mari has seen a lot of weird magic in her time, but she's never directly encountered one of the fabled Miraculous. She's heard of them, and even been on the periferee of conflicts or events that involved them, but she's never directly faced one down before. She's also never wielded one before. She expected Tikki's power to feel overwhelming, tempting to misuse, like the magics she's found before and discarded because she doesn't trust herself with them. But instead, the Ladybug miraculous has always felt like an extension of her own being. She has never once been tempted to miss use this power.

Also, having Tikki, a fellow immortal, around is also really, really nice. They have Immortal Grls night a lot. It's great.

[bet-on-me-13]

I think it would be so fun for Marinette and Tikki to just spend hours at a time talking to eachother about the Past, discussing where they were when the Pyramids were built or how they miss extinct animals or lost recipes.

I also think ot would be funny if Marinette was actually tangentially connected to a lot of Miraculous stuff in the past but never knew about it.

Tikki: And of course Plagg had to go and sink Atlantis, which-

Marinette: Wait, that was HIM!?

Tikki: Yeah? Why?

Marinette: I was visiting the Island when it sank! I thought it was just a random Earthquake or something! I was stuck under rubble at the bottom of the Ocean for 7 Years! By the time I got out, my house had been repossessed, and all of my stuff got stolen by archeologists and put in museums!

[teapotofbees]

#5: Danny Fenton Was 32 When His Parents Built a Strange Machine

The Master Post | Teapot's Stories

Itty-bitty update today because I may or may not have spent like 8 hours drawing Mechanic!Phantom... Oh, we're not in Danny's POV this time! Tony and Jim have noticed some strange instances around their coworker... Hmm... you dont think... Previously: Chapter 2 Part 2

Chapter 2: Oh No is This Ghost Puberty? : Part 3

Deep in the bowls of the watchtower, the mechanic crew is scheduled to have their monthly meeting to discuss which projects, repairs, and system checks are completed, which ones still need to be done, and if any parts of the ship need to be updated or replaced. 

Tony, ever the early bird, is the first to arrive, and so he makes a pot of coffee. Soon after pouring his cup and sitting down, Jim strolls into the lounge carrying a box of donuts. 

“Morning, Jim. There’s fresh coffee in the pot.”

“Hi, Tony. Oh good, coffee. I wasn’t able to grab one on my way out of the house this morning. Here, take a doughnut,” Jim says, putting the purple box on the table. Like a few other crew members, Jim actually lives Earth-side instead of staying in the studio apartments offered on the watchtower.

“Sure thing, right back at ‘cha for the donuts.” While Jim is filling his cup, Tony early chooses a jam filled doughnut with frosting and sugar sprinkles on top. (What? So sue him, he has a sweet tooth). “I take it that means your Jr. had trouble getting up for the bus again?

Jim sighs as he sits on the couch. “Yeah, had to drive him to school. But, at least it meant that I could stop by the doughnut shop on the way to the zeta tube. 

“Which,” Tony says while raising his doughnut in a salute, “I am very grateful for.”

“Alright, I’ll be sure to tell Jr. that he can sleep past his alarm more often,” Jim says while laughing. “Say, you saw your mother this last weekend, right? How is she?”

Tony shrugs one shoulder. “I guess you could say no changes. The hospice clinic is taking good care of her so she isn’t in pain. We spoke a bit but most of the time I just held her hand while she slept.”

“Ah, I’m glad you got to spend that time with her.” 

“Yeah, with Danny being back, it’s nice not to be working quite so much overtime.” 

“Indeed,” Jim agrees. “Though I heard that there is a new recruit that Batman and Green Arrow have tapped. We’ll see if they get on-boarded soon.”

“That’s good to know.” Wiping his hands on his overalls, Tony swallows the last bite of his doughnut with a sip of coffee. “Hey, speaking of, have you noticed that something is up with Danny lately?”

Jim’s mug stops halfway to his mouth and he casts Tony a side eye. “Don’t be ableist, he’s still adjusting. Give him time to bounce back.”

“No, I mean the weird things that have been happening around him ever since he got back,” Tony clarifies. 

“Hmm… I guess he has been more nervous ever since his accident…” Jim’s brow furrows as he thinks.

Tony starts counting off on his fingers. “And the cameras go on the fritz whenever he’s around. And that time that he sneezed and all of the screens on the control desk in room 47Y9 died like the power got drained out of them.”

“Or,” Jim snaps his fingers as he remembers, “Did you notice how sometimes his eyes reflect weirdly on the computer screens?” 

Tony tries to approach the idea as if he’s only just now thinking about it. “Say… it must have been quite the freak accident to get scars like that…” 

“No, no way, you don’t think…”

“I mean, in this world?” Gestures to the watchtower around them. “More than half of these heroes had a freak accident.” 

Jim leans back on the couch in disbelief. “Really? Danny? He’s a nice guy but… powers?”

“Can you think of a better explanation for all the…?” Tony uses his free hand to make a motion for weirdness.

“No… but then why doesn’t he come out and say something? We’re surrounded by metas, any single one of them would leap at the chance to help,” Jim points out. 

Tony shrugs. “I couldn’t say. Maybe it’s just part of his ‘origin story’ or something.”

“Well, whatever it is, it’s not our business.” 

“Nope. But that doesn’t mean we won't help the guy.”

“Of course we’ll watch his back. And this conversation stays between the two of us.”

Tony flashes a cocky smile. “What conversation?”

“Exactly,” Jim snorts.

Then the door to the mechanic crew’s lounge opens and Danny walks in. “Hey fellas.”

“Hey, Danny.”

“Sup, Danny.” 

“Oh, donuts.” Danny makes a beeline for the table and chooses a maple bar. 

Tony and Jim pretend not to notice the way that the doughnut seems to glitch out of Danny’s fingers and they certainly don’t comment on the dark smudges under the younger man’s eyes.

Danny frowns in frustration and picks up the doughnut on the second try. 

“And there’s coffee in the pot.” Tony uses his own mug to gesture towards the small kitchenette.

“Perfect, I didn’t sleep too well last night.” Danny crosses over and fills up a mug, hoping that the caffeine will chase away the clinging threads of his nightmares and the green-eyed stare that met him in the bathroom mirror.

Next: Chapter 2 Part 4

[smallpwbbles]

Happy pride month my peeps!! (Why the fuck are we half way thru the year already?)

[bet-on-me-13]

Idea for an Owl House x Hazbin Hotel crossover that I might try one day

There have been a few Hazbin Hotel x Owl House fanfics that I've seen before, but almost all of them are set during the events of the Show, long after Luz or whoever they dropped into Hell has established themselves.

Its mostly an excuse for the Owl House character to be an Overlord already, so they can either replace Alastor or be a sort of power fantasy self insert. Which are always fun to read, but I got this idea stuck in my head after reading one too many of these kinds of fics.

What if there was a Fic set during Luz's early years in Hell, not long after she established herself?

The basic plot I have outlined goes like this:

A few years after the Epilogue, Luz dies during a huge disaster on the Boiling Isles. The Left Arm starts to slowly fall, and Luz uses her Titan Form to save as many people as possible, burning out her Magic to save every single person living on the Arm. She dies surrounded by her friends and family, and stringbean turns to wood as she dies.

She wakes up in Hell looking like a witch version of her human self, with stringbean, and after one of the nicer sinners explains what happened she is forced to deal with her new life.

She eventually builds herself a cabin outside the city, on a cliff overlooking a lake of boiling blood, in the middle of a razor tree forest. She says its nostalgic. Its basically her own little Owl House.

One day she saves a brand new sinner from a mugging and takes them to her home, and this keeps happening until she has built a little community for herself.

It keeps growing, and one day the Extermination happens. Luz manages to fight off the pair of Exorcists that find the community, and more people flock to her from the notoriety it gains her. She feels guilty anyone at all died, but others see it as a monumental achievement.

Eventually people grow distrusting of her generosity, and to smooth over their paranoia she is convinced to tell them that to have her protection they need to sell her their souls. Its heavily skewed im favor of the sinners, but nobody comments on that.

Eventually her little community grows and becomes a Town, and eventually gains a name. Luz is known as the Titan Witch (she can still use her Titan Form, and calls it that), so the town starts getting called The Titan Witches Haven. This then gets shortened to Titanhaven.

The main plot would revolve around Luz growing in power as a Fledgling Overlord, and dealing with another Overlord who has a bone to pick with her.

A certain gooey witch hunter Overlord, who ended up in Hell long before her, and had grown into Power on a basis of religious nutjobs who believed that God sent them to Hell to fulfill a divine purpose.

I also have some ideas about how much Heaven knows about the demon realm, and how the Exorcists would react to two of their soldiers being driven away by a single sinner. That's for later story arcs to cover though.

That's most of what I have so far, but I'm not confident that I could actually write the fic to a satisfactory level. I may try one day, but for now its just a fun thought experiment.

Any thoughts?

[kizzer55555]

Ok but I’m wondering how in the world Luz ended up in HELL. Especially if she died saving people. What if it was a price? Like she gave up parts of her soul to use more Titan power to save people? So there just wasn’t enough to ‘judge’ and she ended in hell by default? (Like how the Titan ended up as a skeleton). But then that would mean Amity and the rest would end up in heaven. Can you imagine the utter chaos Amity would unleashed when she realized she was in heaven but Luz wasn’t?! Like, imagine thousands of years of Amity doing whatever she can to end up in hell/escape heaven. Absolute mayhem.

[bet-on-me-13]

I have an idea for that, and one of the lines in my outline was literally "Nobody as genuinely nice as her would ever end up in Hell, she has to be up to something "

There is a reason for it, and while the full context is a bit of a spoiler, I will say this: Heaven Hates Titans.

I'm also considering whether the Demon Realm is another universe or not, and whether it would have its own afterlife or not.

I'm leaning towards no, cause Belos and Luz both died in the Demon Realm and ended up in Hell, and it opens up possibilities for other characters or elements of the Owl House to cross over with Hazbin Hotel, so I'm probably going to end up with a "Demon Realm is within the same universe but seperated somehow" kinda thing.

Which means that her Family and Friends will absolutely end up in one of the Afterlives, just not for a while since she only just died a few years after the Epilogue.

[kizzer55555]

Ok but what about King’s dad? The OG titan. If heaven hates Titans, does that mean he’s in hell with Luz?

[bet-on-me-13]

My current thoughts are that Titans have their own version of the Afterlife, or when they die thats it for them unless they stick around in the In Between, so they never end up in either Hell or Heaven. Might change it later.

But Luz is still a Human at her core, so she was always destined for Heaven or Hell, the Titan Thing just messed it up for her and since she can't go to Heaven, it was Hell by default.

This is all subject to change if I end up finding another solution I like better, but for now that's my idea.

[bet-on-me-13]

Idea for an Owl House x Hazbin Hotel crossover that I might try one day

There have been a few Hazbin Hotel x Owl House fanfics that I've seen before, but almost all of them are set during the events of the Show, long after Luz or whoever they dropped into Hell has established themselves.

Its mostly an excuse for the Owl House character to be an Overlord already, so they can either replace Alastor or be a sort of power fantasy self insert. Which are always fun to read, but I got this idea stuck in my head after reading one too many of these kinds of fics.

What if there was a Fic set during Luz's early years in Hell, not long after she established herself?

The basic plot I have outlined goes like this:

A few years after the Epilogue, Luz dies during a huge disaster on the Boiling Isles. The Left Arm starts to slowly fall, and Luz uses her Titan Form to save as many people as possible, burning out her Magic to save every single person living on the Arm. She dies surrounded by her friends and family, and stringbean turns to wood as she dies.

She wakes up in Hell looking like a witch version of her human self, with stringbean, and after one of the nicer sinners explains what happened she is forced to deal with her new life.

She eventually builds herself a cabin outside the city, on a cliff overlooking a lake of boiling blood, in the middle of a razor tree forest. She says its nostalgic. Its basically her own little Owl House.

One day she saves a brand new sinner from a mugging and takes them to her home, and this keeps happening until she has built a little community for herself.

It keeps growing, and one day the Extermination happens. Luz manages to fight off the pair of Exorcists that find the community, and more people flock to her from the notoriety it gains her. She feels guilty anyone at all died, but others see it as a monumental achievement.

Eventually people grow distrusting of her generosity, and to smooth over their paranoia she is convinced to tell them that to have her protection they need to sell her their souls. Its heavily skewed im favor of the sinners, but nobody comments on that.

Eventually her little community grows and becomes a Town, and eventually gains a name. Luz is known as the Titan Witch (she can still use her Titan Form, and calls it that), so the town starts getting called The Titan Witches Haven. This then gets shortened to Titanhaven.

The main plot would revolve around Luz growing in power as a Fledgling Overlord, and dealing with another Overlord who has a bone to pick with her.

A certain gooey witch hunter Overlord, who ended up in Hell long before her, and had grown into Power on a basis of religious nutjobs who believed that God sent them to Hell to fulfill a divine purpose.

I also have some ideas about how much Heaven knows about the demon realm, and how the Exorcists would react to two of their soldiers being driven away by a single sinner. That's for later story arcs to cover though.

That's most of what I have so far, but I'm not confident that I could actually write the fic to a satisfactory level. I may try one day, but for now its just a fun thought experiment.

Any thoughts?

[kizzer55555]

Ok but I’m wondering how in the world Luz ended up in HELL. Especially if she died saving people. What if it was a price? Like she gave up parts of her soul to use more Titan power to save people? So there just wasn’t enough to ‘judge’ and she ended in hell by default? (Like how the Titan ended up as a skeleton). But then that would mean Amity and the rest would end up in heaven. Can you imagine the utter chaos Amity would unleashed when she realized she was in heaven but Luz wasn’t?! Like, imagine thousands of years of Amity doing whatever she can to end up in hell/escape heaven. Absolute mayhem.

[bet-on-me-13]

I have an idea for that, and one of the lines in my outline was literally "Nobody as genuinely nice as her would ever end up in Hell, she has to be up to something "

There is a reason for it, and while the full context is a bit of a spoiler, I will say this: Heaven Hates Titans.

I'm also considering whether the Demon Realm is another universe or not, and whether it would have its own afterlife or not.

I'm leaning towards no, cause Belos and Luz both died in the Demon Realm and ended up in Hell, and it opens up possibilities for other characters or elements of the Owl House to cross over with Hazbin Hotel, so I'm probably going to end up with a "Demon Realm is within the same universe but seperated somehow" kinda thing.

Which means that her Family and Friends will absolutely end up in one of the Afterlives, just not for a while since she only just died a few years after the Epilogue.

[bet-on-me-13]

Idea for an Owl House x Hazbin Hotel crossover that I might try one day

There have been a few Hazbin Hotel x Owl House fanfics that I've seen before, but almost all of them are set during the events of the Show, long after Luz or whoever they dropped into Hell has established themselves.

Its mostly an excuse for the Owl House character to be an Overlord already, so they can either replace Alastor or be a sort of power fantasy self insert. Which are always fun to read, but I got this idea stuck in my head after reading one too many of these kinds of fics.

What if there was a Fic set during Luz's early years in Hell, not long after she established herself?

The basic plot I have outlined goes like this:

A few years after the Epilogue, Luz dies during a huge disaster on the Boiling Isles. The Left Arm starts to slowly fall, and Luz uses her Titan Form to save as many people as possible, burning out her Magic to save every single person living on the Arm. She dies surrounded by her friends and family, and stringbean turns to wood as she dies.

She wakes up in Hell looking like a witch version of her human self, with stringbean, and after one of the nicer sinners explains what happened she is forced to deal with her new life.

She eventually builds herself a cabin outside the city, on a cliff overlooking a lake of boiling blood, in the middle of a razor tree forest. She says its nostalgic. Its basically her own little Owl House.

One day she saves a brand new sinner from a mugging and takes them to her home, and this keeps happening until she has built a little community for herself.

It keeps growing, and one day the Extermination happens. Luz manages to fight off the pair of Exorcists that find the community, and more people flock to her from the notoriety it gains her. She feels guilty anyone at all died, but others see it as a monumental achievement.

Eventually people grow distrusting of her generosity, and to smooth over their paranoia she is convinced to tell them that to have her protection they need to sell her their souls. Its heavily skewed im favor of the sinners, but nobody comments on that.

Eventually her little community grows and becomes a Town, and eventually gains a name. Luz is known as the Titan Witch (she can still use her Titan Form, and calls it that), so the town starts getting called The Titan Witches Haven. This then gets shortened to Titanhaven.

The main plot would revolve around Luz growing in power as a Fledgling Overlord, and dealing with another Overlord who has a bone to pick with her.

A certain gooey witch hunter Overlord, who ended up in Hell long before her, and had grown into Power on a basis of religious nutjobs who believed that God sent them to Hell to fulfill a divine purpose.

I also have some ideas about how much Heaven knows about the demon realm, and how the Exorcists would react to two of their soldiers being driven away by a single sinner. That's for later story arcs to cover though.

That's most of what I have so far, but I'm not confident that I could actually write the fic to a satisfactory level. I may try one day, but for now its just a fun thought experiment.

Any thoughts?

[evilminji]

You know how in Percy Jackson the Pantheon exsisted before humanity worshiped them, but only really gained power and form/shape in response TO the worship they recieved?

Like... Gaia and Kronos etc def pre-date Greece. CHAOS, who is a Primordial, most fuckin CERTAINLY predates human civilization.

AND! They are not the only Pantheon!

The Norse are there, who are younger; the Egyptians, who might be older. There could be older religions! Younger ones! It's clearly defined by a combo of Domain and Mortal Worship. Since Pan fuckin FADED with out enough of his domain existent and the lack of worship?

Do you know what that means? That MEANS that so long as you got a domain and have WORSHIPERS? New Fuckin Gods/Pantheon Could Show Up!

Including "FAKE" Gods/Pantheons.

Or! Assuming the Multiverse is real. As we both can and can not. And are UNABLE TO FUCKIN PROVE, one way or another? This includes, INVITING Exsistent Gods/Pantheons from ELSEWHERE! Such as??

Well... "Jedi" is a real, in fact, IRL religion currently. And the phenomenon of "I started doing it ironically or as a joke but forgot, now do it seriously/incorporated into my personality" is a known thing. So like...

The Force says: "owo what's this~✨️?"

And that's how you get a Force "demigod".

Much like a cat. Once it learns how to do a Neat Trick™? You can UN-teach the Force how to do something. It worked on Shmi Skywalker! It can work on some OTHER random humanoid! The Force~✨️ wishes to explore this new galaxy! New universe! It IS Creation beholding itself and wishes to sightsee! Do things! TOUCH STUFF!!

Is it alarming? To the demigods new mom? Highly. She just pulled a fuckin virgin Mary. And then her baby's psychic. But like... we stay silly? Maybe she can ask here fellow single mom? *ask for parenting tips from the mom of a Greek demigod, who def makes assumptions.*

SI-OC is a jedi in PJO! No one figures out she Does Not Go Here™ until she's awkwardly waving at Dionysus from behind her Greek demigod friends. Like? The fuck are YOU??? Does chronic jedi nosiness strike again?? HA! Is Yoda GREEN??

@legitimatesatanspawn @mayfay @hdgnj @leftnotright

[bet-on-me-13]

I only read the first part questioning the multiple Pantheons existing at once, and I needed to throw my personal Theory in just to get it out of my head.

The Duat. That's it.

The Duat in the Kane Chronicles is the Layers of Reality that the PJO World exists in. Its an infinitely expanding Ocean below your feet, the deeper you go into it the farther you fall into the World of the Gods.

Its also where places like the Egyptian Afterlife exist, as well as the Throne Room of the Gods, and other Divine Places like that. If you go deep enough, you can even find the place where the Egyptian Creation Myth took place, like Carter and Sadie do in Serpents Shadow.

In Demigods and Magicians, the Greek Mist is described as the Uppermost Layer of the Duat, the thing that seperates the "Normal" World from the Mythological one.

My theory is that All Pantheons exist within the Duat, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Norse, Etc.

They all inhabit different parts of it, but places like Olympus and The Underworld are just Realms in the Duat just like the Egyptian Afterlives and Throne Room are, in different locations.

Demigods are born skimming along the surface of the Duat, existing partially in the Mundane World where the Sun is a giant ball of Gas, and partially in the Mythological World where the Sun is Apollo's Chariot. Just like how Artemis explained that both things are true to Nico in Titans Curse. In either layer of Reality, either explanation can apply.

Also its interesting that in both KC and ToA, the lowest place in all existence is Chaos. In KC they find the Ocean of Chaos from which the world emerged when they go to the deepest levels of the Duat to find Apophis' Shadow, and in ToA Apollo falls past Tartarus and hangs on the edge of all Creation over the realm of Chaos where all Primordials are born. An interesting similarity I found.

In my head, the PJO Cosmology is basically a tower:

Mundane World- Science and Mortals

Greek Mist, the thin layer between the magical and mundane

Duat, the infinite layers of reality

Descending Layers of the Duat, where all the Godly Realms exist

Chaos, the Origin of All Existence at the deepest levels of Reality.

[evilminji]

Oooooh! This gives me? A NEW option?? Because then the Force doesn't need a human at all to enter the mortal world. It can, by being invited through Worship (intended or not, accidentally or otherwise), enter through the Duat!

Effectively? Divine immigration from Sideways to Here. Like walking INTO an ocean, because you've heard there's a land mass over there and you want to go see it. Was it immediate? No. In fact, by Divine standards, it actually took quite a long time! When everything is instantaneous, days and weeks and MONTHS to move? My goodness! You really WERE quite far away, weren't you?

But now? The Force is here! Just below the surface! In a place where the magical and clear sighted could find, but mortals could not. Got itself a nice lil island. As ya do. Birth place for a GOD™ as one does (when one is a primordial, formless, Energy Of All Things. Because you do not have hands. Or eyes. Or a mouth. Actually, you have no sensory organs! Sad. How are you to touch things? Which are also You? Or explain things‽ To people! Who are ALSO YOU‽‽). It's why they created the Father, Mother, Daughter, and Son.

This place ALSO needs one! We shall call them... Daught-*SI-OC coughs pointedly, refusing to be named "Daughter" and instead suggests their own name*....? Or that? I guess. What ever makes you happy, small MYSELF™. I love you.

And like? Just like dryads are born from trees? OC is born from the Force and a transplanted Uneti. A BIG ONE. She's basically the Force equivalent of a Titan. Born to a primordial Force and nature itself.

Why? Because the Force wants an in! New galaxy, New Pantheon! Let's go TOUCH STUFF! Interfere in things! Observe atoms!! Oooh, look sweetie, a PLANT! She? Am BABY. Itty bitty baby god. They happen sometimes. Most either leave, fade, or just sorta... float around in the Duat without purpose.

I mean, do YOU have any idea how many cults there have been? They do! A LOT!

The only reason Not-Daughter is DIFFERENT? Is because the Force HAS active worshipers. A galaxy worth. AND The Daughter is kinda... nebulously dead. The whole Mortis thing? Left a lot of Domains up for grabs. They NEED a lodestone. So like... 👀 no one said that lodestone had to be IN galaxy... (it's just highly suggested and preferred.)

Which like??

Imagine dealing with a Galactic Sith Caused War with HALF your brain... while the OTHER half of your brain is trying to keep these Very Sweet Young Peoples ALIVE through their parent and Grandparents war! Yes! Of COURSE you can hide on my island! Please, please! Come right in! You poor things! *chases the minotaur off with a broom* Have some soup.

And like? Imagine being the Jedi high council! The children? Keep playing with/around the "nice Master from the Great Tree"? What. WHAT? What so you fucking MEAN the gardens are HAUNTED? That our SACRED TREE might be POSSESSED? There is a WAR ON! We can NOT afford to have that be happening right now!!!

Just? Fix-it via the most chaos physically and spiritually possible.

As the Force intended.

@bet-on-me-13 @legitimatesatanspawn @mayfay @hdgnj

[bet-on-me-13]

Now all I can think of is the Other Gods meeting The Force, thanks for that.

Cause, its not the first time this has happened. Sure usually these Newly-Formed Gods are too weak or too uninterested in the mortal world to ever leave the Duat and enter Reality, but this one

Barged Right In and started Touching Things.

Zeus is constantly trying to get a vote going to ban this new God from messing with their Mortals, Horus and Isis are more welcoming because they also interact with the world through Avatars and thats something they have in common, and Thor took one look at them and asked for an Arm Wrestling Contest. If Jesus is too cowardly to take him up on it, maybe this new God will!

[evilminji]

You know how in Percy Jackson the Pantheon exsisted before humanity worshiped them, but only really gained power and form/shape in response TO the worship they recieved?

Like... Gaia and Kronos etc def pre-date Greece. CHAOS, who is a Primordial, most fuckin CERTAINLY predates human civilization.

AND! They are not the only Pantheon!

The Norse are there, who are younger; the Egyptians, who might be older. There could be older religions! Younger ones! It's clearly defined by a combo of Domain and Mortal Worship. Since Pan fuckin FADED with out enough of his domain existent and the lack of worship?

Do you know what that means? That MEANS that so long as you got a domain and have WORSHIPERS? New Fuckin Gods/Pantheon Could Show Up!

Including "FAKE" Gods/Pantheons.

Or! Assuming the Multiverse is real. As we both can and can not. And are UNABLE TO FUCKIN PROVE, one way or another? This includes, INVITING Exsistent Gods/Pantheons from ELSEWHERE! Such as??

Well... "Jedi" is a real, in fact, IRL religion currently. And the phenomenon of "I started doing it ironically or as a joke but forgot, now do it seriously/incorporated into my personality" is a known thing. So like...

The Force says: "owo what's this~✨️?"

And that's how you get a Force "demigod".

Much like a cat. Once it learns how to do a Neat Trick™? You can UN-teach the Force how to do something. It worked on Shmi Skywalker! It can work on some OTHER random humanoid! The Force~✨️ wishes to explore this new galaxy! New universe! It IS Creation beholding itself and wishes to sightsee! Do things! TOUCH STUFF!!

Is it alarming? To the demigods new mom? Highly. She just pulled a fuckin virgin Mary. And then her baby's psychic. But like... we stay silly? Maybe she can ask here fellow single mom? *ask for parenting tips from the mom of a Greek demigod, who def makes assumptions.*

SI-OC is a jedi in PJO! No one figures out she Does Not Go Here™ until she's awkwardly waving at Dionysus from behind her Greek demigod friends. Like? The fuck are YOU??? Does chronic jedi nosiness strike again?? HA! Is Yoda GREEN??

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I only read the first part questioning the multiple Pantheons existing at once, and I needed to throw my personal Theory in just to get it out of my head.

The Duat. That's it.

The Duat in the Kane Chronicles is the Layers of Reality that the PJO World exists in. Its an infinitely expanding Ocean below your feet, the deeper you go into it the farther you fall into the World of the Gods.

Its also where places like the Egyptian Afterlife exist, as well as the Throne Room of the Gods, and other Divine Places like that. If you go deep enough, you can even find the place where the Egyptian Creation Myth took place, like Carter and Sadie do in Serpents Shadow.

In Demigods and Magicians, the Greek Mist is described as the Uppermost Layer of the Duat, the thing that seperates the "Normal" World from the Mythological one.

My theory is that All Pantheons exist within the Duat, Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Norse, Etc.

They all inhabit different parts of it, but places like Olympus and The Underworld are just Realms in the Duat just like the Egyptian Afterlives and Throne Room are, in different locations.

Demigods are born skimming along the surface of the Duat, existing partially in the Mundane World where the Sun is a giant ball of Gas, and partially in the Mythological World where the Sun is Apollo's Chariot. Just like how Artemis explained that both things are true to Nico in Titans Curse. In either layer of Reality, either explanation can apply.

Also its interesting that in both KC and ToA, the lowest place in all existence is Chaos. In KC they find the Ocean of Chaos from which the world emerged when they go to the deepest levels of the Duat to find Apophis' Shadow, and in ToA Apollo falls past Tartarus and hangs on the edge of all Creation over the realm of Chaos where all Primordials are born. An interesting similarity I found.

In my head, the PJO Cosmology is basically a tower:

Mundane World- Science and Mortals

Greek Mist, the thin layer between the magical and mundane

Duat, the infinite layers of reality

Descending Layers of the Duat, where all the Godly Realms exist

Chaos, the Origin of All Existence at the deepest levels of Reality.