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Even Tom knows whatâs going on⌠XD
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harry: hi, i'm harry. and you are?
draco: questioning my sexuality.
Harry Potter is like the gateway fandom. You start reading the books, then all of the sudden you have a sonic screwdriver, you want to go to Rivendell, and you have this awkward fascination with Sherlock Holmes. And you donât really know how any of it happened, but youâre pretty sure it started with Mr. and Mrs. Vernon Dursley of Four Privet Drive who were proud to say they they were perfectly normal thank you very much.
Ice cream
Draco grunted as he fumbled with the collar of his dress shirt. His face was contorted in distaste as he felt little beads of sweat running down his neck. Ugh, disgusting! Potter had already pointed out that it was far too hot outside to be wearing a dress shirt, but Draco refused to wear the kind of sordid clothes Potter seemed to love so much. It suited him, of course, but Draco had a reputation to uphold.
That was a bit of a stupid reason, even Draco had to admit it, seeing as they were out and about in Muggle London, but Draco, unlike Potter, had class.
Them being friends was still very new to him and definitely needed some getting used to. Potter seemed already comfortable around Draco, always blabbering on about this and that, bumping Dracoâs arm with his elbow, grinning at him mischievouslyâŚ
Blaise had remarked that it very much seemed like he and Potter were dating, but that was just ridiculous. They had just met for coffee a few times, had gone to the movies (Potterâs idea of course and Draco was still a bit traumatised) and had gone for a few walks, like now. Yes, Draco had been a little surprised earlier when Potter had asked him if he wanted to come back to his place later for dinner, but that wasnât out of the ordinary, was it? Friends did that⌠right?
As they continued walking down the street, Draco peered sideways and saw that Potterâs face was rather flushed and there were little beads of sweat running down his neck, too.
âMaybe we should have stayed inside today,â Potter wheezed. âI honestly donât understand how you havenât fainted yet.â He gazed at Dracoâs shirt and his cloth trousers in discomfort.
âWell,â Draco began, eyeing Potterâs burgundy T-shirt and his short trouser, which reached to his knees, âI was taught elegance is a virtue, as well as endurance. Clearly, a concept which seems to be lost on you.â He let his eyes wander over Potterâs body and gave him an appraising look when their eyes met again. Potter seemed to stifle a giggle.
âWhat?â Draco snapped.
âEndurance,â Potter snorted. âAlright then.â He flashed Draco a toothy grin. Draco had no idea what was so funny about that, but didnât get the chance to ask. Potterâs eyes had focused on something on the other side of the street. Draco turned around, but had no idea what had caught Potterâs attention.
âWait here,â Potter told him and and sprinted off. Draco crossed his arms over his chest, huffing. What was Potter up to? And how dare he make Draco wait alone in the middle of the street like this?
Draco tapped his foot impatiently as the minutes passed by. When Potter finally came into view again, Draco saw that he was holding⌠two ice lollies?
âHere,â Potter said enthusiastically, holding one out to Draco. He gave it a quick glance and made a face.
âNo thank you,â he grunted.
âWhat? Why?â
âI donât like ice cream,â Draco shrugged. Potterâs eyes widened at that.
âWhat? How can you not like ice cream?â He sounded genuinely baffled.
âI just donât.â
Potter kept staring at him, the incomprehension at Dracoâs revelation clearly visible on his face.
âYouâre dripping,â Draco noted with a raised eyebrow.
âWhat? Oh!â Only now did Potter seem to notice that the ice lollies were melting quickly, dripping all over his hands. He lifted one hand to his mouth and dragged his tongue over his knuckles slowly. Mesmerised, Draco watched as Potter did the same thing to his other hand.
âYou sure you donât want it?â Potter asked, oblivious to Dracoâs sudden inner turmoil. Not trusting his voice at this moment, he just waved a dismissive hand in the air. Potter shrugged and lifted one of the ice lollies to his mouth.
Sweet Merlin!
Draco almost choked as Potterâs lips closed around the ice lollie. He pushed it deeper into his mouth and started sucking. Draco had to control himself not to clutch his chest in surprise. He winced when Potter made a slurping noise.
âYou know,â Â Potter said happily, âI had my first ice lolly when I was ten years old. I really like them.â
Draco had trouble concentrating on what Potter was saying, but still, a frown formed on his face.
âYou hadnât had ice cream before that?â
Potter shook his head and looked at the two ice lollies in his hands. They were both dripping like mad. He lifted one to his mouth again and licked it, painfully slow, from the bottom up, before sticking it in his mouth again. This time, he twirled it around, before releasing it again with a little âpopâ.
Draco was sure he was about to faint. The heat wasnât exactly helping, either.
âPotter,â he spluttered. He stepped forward and gazed at his mouth intently. âUgh, you really are an imbecile, arenât you?â
Potterâs mouth and his chin were smeared with the remnants of the ice lolly. Draco reached out and stroked the corner of Potterâs mouth with his thumb. He saw Potterâs adamâs apple bob as he swallowed.
âItâs sticky,â Draco muttered. He wasnât really aware that he was leaning down, until his tongue made contact with Potterâs skin. Surprised by his own boldness, he quickly stepped back.
âI donât know why I did that.â
Potter was flushed and he looked like he was trying to decide something.
âSod that,â he suddenly muttered and let go of the two ice lollies. Before they hit the ground, Potter had his arms around Dracoâs neck and their lips pressed together. Draco made a startled sound when Potterâs tongue pushed into his mouth. He tasted like artificial oranges. Yuck! But the things Potter apparently could do with that tongueâŚ
âLetâs go back to my place,â Potter panted after a few moments. âOh, but first, let me go back to that store real quick.â
Draco frowned.
âWhy?â
âBecause,â Potter said with one of his mischievous grins, âI want more ice cream.â He dropped his voice to a low, seductive whisper. âI want creamy, rich chocolate ice cream.â Draco shuddered at the way Potter was looking at him. âAnd I plan to lick it off your chest and out of your navel.â
This time, Draco really did choke. He recovered rather quickly, however, and grabbed Potterâs hand.
âMerlin, what are we waiting for?â
I just realized that I grew up during a time where the crazy frog was a thing. Like that was an actual thing that happened, that blue fucking piece of shit frog took the world by storm and it even had a tiny dick and all it did was sing annoying songs while racing around sci-fi towns in a distant future on an invisible motorbike. I canât believe this. How did that happen. Who LET that happen.
Judging by some posts here (at tumblr), youâd think that there is no single page in all seven books on which Severus Snape doesnât insult people right and left.
Tru dat
Bellatrix has a heart
I've always wondered why bellatrix didn't just go too Andromedas house and kill her and the family? It couldn't have been that hard due to bloodwards. Even then she could have broken other wards so why didn't she? It would have been an easy kill. How about maybe that bellatrix who was brilliant at hiding and manipulating her thoughts was secretly visiting her sister with narcissa ? They are both excellent liars and I think this definitely could have happened to to the fact Bella would go against Voldemort just to keep her family safe. I think she had to kill tonks to make sure she didn't get found out... she was expected to kill her because of her beliefs... ifk this is just what I think
I hate when people refer to the Death Eater as Nazis. Please, can we stop comparing fictional characters and events to the Holocaust and the Nazi regime as a whole. It's sickening and hugely disrespectful.
Mmm, itâs tedious.
Honestly, some of the blame has to lie with the author, who made such comparisons in interview - so given that fact, I understand why others jump to it as well.  But frankly, given that the comparisons are so thin in Potter and so poorly explored, I think itâs insulting.
The general obsession with reducing every bad person to being a Nazi, or every bad leader to being HitlerâŚitâs farcical, and I fear it reduces the comprehension of the pain, suffering and loss that was caused during those wars (on both sides).  The rise of a fascist regime and a six million person genocide should not be used as âgotchasâ for a fandom argument 65 years later.
I feel our forebearswould be distinctly unimpressed. Â Mine most certainly would be.
Are there any howling Americanisms in fanfic that are a particular pet peeve? (I try, but I suspect I've committed a few!)
I had a good think about this, and it turned more into a reference post than an actual statement of what really bothers me. Â To be honest, if it happens infrequently, I can usually squint past it - but if thereâs a lot, or itâs something thatâs used over and over then I find it harder.
SoâŚhere we go:
Our parents are mummy, mum, mammy, mam, ma, mother etc, and daddy, dad, da, pa, father etc - but never ever mommy or mom, poppy or pop(s).
Individual pieces of candy are sweets.  Candy bars are chocolate bars.  We donât eat pancakes for breakfast.  (Pancakes are thin crepes that are eaten on Shrove Tuesday.)  We eat porridge and not oatmeal, and we have biscuits and not cookies.  Maple syrup was not really in the UK in the 90s, nor was corn syrup; we have golden syrup, or treacle (not molasses).  Crisps are what you call chips.  Jelly is not jell-o.  Dumbledore eats sherbet lemons, not lemon drops.  We drink fizzy drinks (well, we mostly refer to them by brand or type) and not soda.  We have candy floss, not cotton candy.  We have mince beef, not ground beef - and thereâs a rack of different names for vegetables (courgette vs zucchini, swede vs rutabaga etc.).  Faggots are meatballs, not a homosexual slur.
Whilst public (private) schools may and do charge, thereâs no indication that Hogwarts requires tuition fees. Â Nor do we pay for healthcare; Dudley wouldnât have been charged to have his tail removed. Â We donât have extra credit, and we donât have a grade point average. Â In the 90s, there werenât really proms, and no graduation ceremonies. Â (Some schools did awards ceremonies following results, usually in the first term of the next school year.) Â We donât have kindergarten; we have reception.
We use the pavement, not the sidewalk. Â We use a car park and not a parking lot. Â In the 90s, you could legally smoke at 16 (now 18), you could legally drive at 17, you could legally drink at 18. Â In the 60s and 70s, the shopkeeper wouldâve served Severus or Lily for their parents, even though theyâre underage. Â Lily and Severus lived around the same postcode, not ZIP code. Â A yard in Spinnerâs End is actually a yard (6 foot of paving), not a garden. Â If Severus wants to grow items for brewing (assuming no magical shenanigans), he probably needs to have an allotment. Â Our streets are not set up in blocks. Â Cokeworth is not in London, and certainly cannot be accessed via the tube.
You fill your car with petrol or diesel, not gas - and we drive on the motorway, not the freeway.  We take lifts and not elevators.  We sleep in beds (single, double, king, super king - not twin) and not cots.  We live in flats, not apartments - and the first floor is up a flight of stairs from the ground floor.  We go on holiday, not vacation.  We use mobiles not cellphones, and when we shop we use a trolley and not a cart.  We use put rubbish in the dustbin (or just bin); we donât put garbage in the trashcan.  We donât knock on wood, we touch wood and whilst our measuring systems are screwed up, we definitely use celsius for outside temperature.  âŚand if Hermioneâs parents ever sort Severusâ teeth out, they use braces, not retainers.  (Speaking of which, we also use braces to mean suspenders.  Suspenders in British English mean garters.)
We say bum or bottom or backside or arse; not ass or butt and most definitely not fanny (which is something completely different).  We have fringes and not bangs.  Pants go under trousers unless youâre Superman.  Vests go under a shirt, and waistcoats go overâŚand wifebeater is not a vest, but slang for a particular lager that gets people a bit handsy.  We wear football boots and not cleats.  (Btw, bleachers are stands.) We wear jumpers, not sweaters.  We use wardrobes and cupboards, not closets.  We wear trainers and not sneakers.  We ring 999 in an emergency, not 911.  We use plasters, not band aids.  We use notes, not bills, and ÂŁ5 is the lowest (the ÂŁ1 note ceased being produced in the early 80s).  We donât leave money on the bar.  Cigarettes have many names, including cig, ciggie, smoke and fag.  âŚand we have our own television shows.  US bands are often important in the UK, but we also have our own music as well.
Thereâs no such word as âgottenâ in British English (sorry, I know thatâs a big one for most writers; you wouldnât expect that we wouldnât have it!).
And if youâre pissed, youâre drunk. Â If youâre annoyed, youâre pissed off. Â Which is probably what I sound in this post, but I promise, I am not. Â :) Â
I am sure thereâs a billion more, but these were the ones that sprung to mind.
In fairness, the world is getting smaller. Â I read a lot of American fiction, and watch a lot of American fiction, and although I might huff a little to myself when I see Snape using an Americanism, itâs not super horrendous. Â I might roll my eyes at the sidewalk, but I know what one is and I can carry on reading; it just pulls me out of my spell a little.
If Iâm absolutely honest, Iâm always impressed when people have bothered to write at all - and I wouldnât want anyone to freeze and think, âOh no, I darenât write anything ever again!â  I mean, Iâll admit, Iâve read stories solely due to the trope, and the writing was genuinely atrociousâŚbut I stuck with them, and the plot ended up being fantastic. Â
So I do try to not ânopeâ out of something if I can help it; you might miss out on something wonderful.  But to answer your question, the things that bother me most?  Mom, pancakes for breakfast, and Hogwarts tuition fees.  Theyâre the killers for me.  :D
United Kingdom â United States of America
I have seen four separate posts today that have made reference to Snapeâs privilege by calling him a âWhite boyâ.  This irritates me because the UKâs social structure has always historically been divided by class, so whilst âWhite male privilegeâ in itself is absolutely an issue, the argument is not as relevant when applied to the UK in the 1970s.
Firstly, the UK has a very different demographic to the US. Â The 2001 Census showed the following (source):
To compare, Black and Black British made up 2.3% of respondents, Asian or Asian British made up 5.1% of respondents, and British Mixed made up 1.4% of respondents.
The UK is steadily changing - so the further back you go into the 20th Century, the less diverse the country is. Â The table below (source) shows that in 1981, the White population in the UK was approximately 95%. Â This is when Snape was 21; it wouldâve been less diverse again whilst he was growing up in the 60s and 70s.
The repeated insistence that being White in the UK during this time offers Snape a level of privilege is ridiculous - not because discrimination against other ethnic groups didnât exist, but because people in the UK were predominantly White. Â And by predominantly, weâre talking in the region of 97% White.
After all, you have to remember that Snape doesnât come from an area like London, where the population is more ethnically diverse. Â There are huge areas of the UK where the population is still 97% White today. Â To demonstrate this, letâs jump forward slightly, to the 2011 Census (which shows more diversity, with the number of respondents identifying as White falling to 87.1%). Â
Even with that drop from 95% to 87%, look at the map below, and you can see for yourself the huge areas of the UK where there is very very little diversity (source by SkateTier).
The reason I have raised this is because there is a reason why class dominates the UK. Â There is a reason why UK posters, such as myself, spend hours discussing poverty, and the lack of social mobility, and the house the Snape family lived in. Â Thereâs a reason why we elaborate on the structure of Cokeworth as a location and explain why Lily is not of the same social class as Snape. Â Thereâs a reason why we talk about the Dursley family, and their life in Surrey, and the contrast of neglect that Harry suffers from the Dursleys to the neglect that Snape suffers from his parents.
I appreciate that there are things in the text that are abundantly obvious to me, as someone who lives in the UK, who grew up in the UK, and who is affected by class and understands how it is used to discriminate, control and oppress - and I appreciate that some of these things may not be as clear to other readers. Â
I also freely admit that I do not deeply understand the structures of other countries, and consequently, I do not pass critique; I certainly do not broadly apply the findings from my own country to other countries, and expect that my stance would be relevant.
Dismissing Snape as privileged because heâs White demonstrates that you do not understand the UK in the slightest, and you certainly do not understand the UK in the 1970s.  To suggest that he is the privileged White boy in the scene of Snapeâs Worst Memory when you have two upper class (A) boys bullying the working class (C2/D/E) boyâŚit borders upon offensive.  (There is an argument about Snapeâs gender affording him privilege over Lily, but it is nullified by Lilyâs considerably higher social class.)
Iâll leave you with a quote from two UK politicians in 2008 (source):
âWe know that inequality doesnât just come from your gender, race, sexual orientation or disability. Â What overarches all of these is where you live, your family background, your wealth and social class.â and: Â âA childâs social class background at birth is still the best predictor of how well he or she will do at school and later on in life.â
âŚand believe me, in 2008, things were a lot better in the UK than they are now - and were a lot better than theyâd ever beenâŚand yet, social class remained the true marker of privilege.
So, if you believe that Severus Snape (as a child or a teenager) was privileged in any way, shape or form, then the only conclusion I can draw is that you lack the necessary context for you to fully understand the story.
i mean if he was white (which he isnât), heâs still privileged. just because the country is 80-95% white doesnât erase that privilege. severus was born during the colonial era, race was still extremely important. however, in hogwarts, especially during swm he was not privileged over anyone. not even a little. itâs gross how theyâre trying to take away the awfulness of what happened by assigning james and sirius different races. do they really think thereâs something righteous in two rich, asian purebloods attacking a white boy who did nothing to them? how many videos have we seen show us the opposite? donât they feel sick when the use the same setting for âsomeone who deserves itâ? i really hate how the fandom (usually the white members) use race.
Yes, I should preface this by saying that always pause a bit when I talk about race, and I am happy to defer. Â I suppose the analogy I was crudely making was that the systemic racial discrimination that takes place in the USA wasnât happening to the same degree within the UK, because the population was predominantly White.
That doesnât mean that the UK rises above discrimination. Â Instead, in lieu of being able to discriminate via race, the UK population found other ways to discriminate within the White population - and that way was via social class.
The UK certainly exerted such racial discrimination over other countries and there are serious levels of racial discrimination within the UK now - itâs just that the traditional (and still extremely applicable) system of oppression is via social class. Â There are other inequalities - race, sexual orientation, gender, disability etc - but whilst it must seem incredible to people outside of the UK, none of these are as big a barrier to social mobility as class.
Now, I am quite laidback when it comes to headcanons and interpretations, but pushing James and Sirius into being a different ethnicity and leaving Snape as White, and then claiming that Snape has White privilege over them, or claiming that Lilyâs ethnic status âtechnicallyâ changes because of her blood status, and claiming that Snape is using his White privilege over herâŚitâs just such a skew of whatâs written.
Playing devilâs advocate, even if you wanted to say all of that was true(!!!), the great big monster in the room that most people outside of the UK donât see is social class.  It doesnât matter what âWhite privilegeâ Snape has in these circumstancesâŚsocial class comes along, and moves all of the kids around so James and Sirius are at the top of the ladder, Lily is a few rungs below, and Snape is so far down the bottom of the ladder, heâs had to dig a hole in the floor to sit in.
So lets get historical - Britain was a feudal state for centuries and in some ways it still shows in our culture - judging people by social class is the most obvious one. In the 70s in âCokeworthâ (read northern towns similar to Leeds, Sheffield, Hull etc but with even more poverty and less opportunities ) The Snape family would be living in a grotty victorian 2up2down no bathroom, outside toilet kind of place. They wouldnât have been able to afford coal all the time to use in the stove so Snape would have had to have dip washes in cold water - no wonder he never learnt about hair care. The weekly wash in a tin bath was still a thing in very poor communities. He would have hoped in winter that he had enough blankets and jumpers to be warm enough stay asleep in bed. Colour was less of a problem because EVERYONEâS lives were in the shitter.
Alcoholism in unemployed men is a real issue even now but in the 70s it was fucking appalling - factory/mine and milling towns were going bust due to the international markets opening up and Britain being behind the game. This means at least half the male population being out of work, on the dole with NO prospect of anything better in the future. They spent their dole money on hiding from their lives in the pub. And some people are mean drunks like Tobias Snape. Then Thatcher became prime minister at the end of the 70s and it GOT WORSE (3 day weeks, electricity rationing, privatisation, riots &protests by the unions) I can understand why Snape would leap at an opportunity to escape his situation even though he knew it wasnât the greatest idea he reckoned it would be better than the shitty adult life he was trying to avoid. Yes he was wrong, he was a teenager desperately trying to not have the life his dad had. Victorian factory towns were fucking awful to live in and heâd mostly escaped it for 7 years there was no way heâd want to return to Cokeworth.
Go watch The Full Monty, Billy Eliot, maybe Kes and pay attention to the socio-political backgrounds of those films before talking about Snape & historical white privilege in the UK.
This is something I think about a lot when it comes to discussing Slytherin as the house of privilege. Yes, the values of Slytherin are wealth and purity and, as such, most of the people in the house are from backgrounds of privilege. For those in the US, think of it as a prestigious fraternity or university. People who do not fit the mold of wealthy and White can absolutely make it in, but it does not erase the lack of privilege from their background and can make them even more isolated.Â
Conversely, NOT being in that society/Slytherin house does not automatically erase the privilege one is born with. James is moneyed and pure-blooded. Sirius is moneyed, pure-blooded, and part of the aristocratic class. Being in gryffindor does not strip them of the privilege with which they enter Hogwarts.Â
I personally find POC Potters head-canons very compelling, but when we look at the text as it is, Rowling emphases James being âwell-cared forâ in contrast to Snapeâs neglect, with which Harry empathizes. Bringing in American concepts of race to what is so specifically British class-related in the text is completely irrelevant.Â
I would just say that saying getting washed in a tin bath was the reason he didnât learn proper hair care⌠is total bullshit.
Look, this post is a great breakdown of social classes in the uk and why class is such a different animal in the uk than the us.
HOWEVER, the upbringing you describe Snape as having is the exact same as my mother had. Except she was the eldest of four with a disabled sister. Her mother left when she was a young teenager, leaving my mother to care for the family. Her dad was bankrupt twice.
Did she become systematically racist? Was she drawn to those offering wealth and privilege if she followed them? (In this case, the Tories of the time)
No. She became a nurse and she was a member of the Anti Nazi League. A member of the Labour Party. And sheâs perfectly capable of washing her hair.
She lives, even now, with the fear of being poor again, but she works with people who are still that poor and she doesnât look down on them for it. She doesnât indulge in the lazy hatred of âdole scumâ or âgypsiesâ or âweirdosâ the way that some people her age do. (Again, if youâre looking for parallels between the Death Eaters and Muggle Britain look no further than fucking Katie HopkinsâŚ)
While what you say about Snape and his upbringing are undoubtedly true, you also act as if this is some kind of excuse for his behaviour. In doing so you consign a whole generation to being complete arseholes on the basis of the way they grew up. While probably about half of them are, I still think they would balk at the killing people in the name of blood purity.
I think thatâs what youâre forgetting here. Snape killed people. If he was a Death Eater, he took part in murder, whether first hand or as an enabler. HIS UPBRINGING DOES NOT EXCUSE THAT.
I feel youâve draw a few false conclusions in your post.
Discussing someoneâs background as a child is not excusing their actions as an adult. Â It is an exploration of the circumstances that perhaps caused them to make certain choices.
Secondly, you make the assumption that in a post specifically talking about Snape, that the conclusions drawn would be applicable to everyone in the community. Â As you say, of course some people coped with the washing facilities - there are people in modern houses with washing facilities who donât wash each day, and people without washing facilities who do wash every day.
The point was to highlight Snapeâs living conditions; to stress that he lived in the type of housing where it was perhaps more challenging and more effort to keep clean, and that Snapeâs apparent neglect points to the fact that those efforts were not being made by their household. Â It was not a statement that the entire working class were unwashed.
The rest of your post about him being a Death Eater and your mother not being prejudiced is mostly irrelevant. Â This was a discussion about Snapeâs background and privilege (or lack of), and you have rather missed the point. Â Your comments make the same mistakes as the start of your post; you assume that because your family lived in certain circumstances and didnât do something, it means that it is not an explanation for Snape living in similar circumstances, and behaving in the opposite way.
Your real world parallels do not work; the Death Eaters and the Tory party are not comparable. Â Your mother would not have been afforded privilege and status by voting with them in the same way that Snape may have been through being, essentially, a gang member. Â In fact, that is what my entire post was about(!) Â Voting Tory as a working class person does not elevate you through the class system.
And thatâs without touching your assertion that Snape killed people - you have no idea what he did as a young Death Eater, and as a second wave Death Eater, he was an undercover spy who saved as many people as he could.
@sayruqâs comments got me thinking about a Hogwarts American South AU which will be forthcoming when I get some goddamn sleep. Been awake for about 22 hours and I only got 4 hours the night before. All Iâm saying: debutantes. College football. Fraternity hazing. Smoking in the graveyard. Class dressâwhich was a thing at my alma mater, youâd be turned away from some classes if you werenât wearing a tieâand the constant stream of gossip from going to a small, isolated school. The Confederate dead, the Knights of Walpurgis, the ghosts of the Cherokee mingling with Robert E. Lee. (The Cherokee fought for the Confederacy, correct me if Iâm wrong.) Confederate ghosts marching in matriculation. (Thatâs actually a ghost story I heard at my alma mater.) Eileen Snapeâs from New Orleans, Cajun. His dadâs shanty Irish steelworker (union) from Hellâs Kitchen, NYC. Lilyâs the nice Jewish girl from the Village. They ended up at Hunter High School or Stuyvesant, two of the best high schools in the United States. (I think both in the top 10) Lilyâs in a double with a debutante, her suite mates are debutantes too. She doesnât know one of them is Eileenâs niece. Potter is fervently right to work. Snape joins as a senior Chi Psi to try to fit in and find friends; Potter et al go Lambda Chi or ATO instead. James is a quarterback. Lucius wears seersucker suits. Everybody likes Lynyrd Skynyrd. I need to fucking sleep. I am so sorry y'all. @generally-nauseated what have I done
I think my favourite thing about this post is that Iâve read it about eighteen times, and my grasp on American High School culture is so loose, it might as well be written in French.
âŚwhich goes some way to prove my initial point.  :D
People seem to be missing the point in the Uk, even now you aren't split by skin colour or gender or religion your split by the wealth you have. The richer you are the more privileged you are. Sirius is easily if we use this scale the most privileged character in the era... and snape is the least. I understand the USA seems to be full of twats who only see ease and gender but we don't segregate people by that. If you want a modern showing off what I mean watch a TV show called Ackley bridge. Which is set in Leeds where the culture is diverse.
I think the white privilege thing when applied to snape is not just a culture problem. I'm nonwhite and have lived in the US and the UK, and based on personal experience I can say that in both I was more "privileged" than my poorer white friends. Class will always be the main predictor of success, even if race and other things also affect it. Class is even used as a tool to perpetuate racism). People who say snape has privilege are oversimplifying the situation to find support for their hatred.
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So because the UK was (and still is) extremely, predominantly white, how do you feel about all the people who headcanon every single HP character as a person of colour?
I am very relaxed about how people want to read Potter. Â I headcanon all sorts of stuff in my preferred reading, and if people want to headcanon all of the HP characters as being non-white, then thatâs totally up to them.
The only time I am bothered by such things is when weâre having a discussion about canon, and people insist on their headcanons as being the only way without being open to other readings.  As long as we discuss things in terms of âpossibleâ, âplausibleâ and âprobableâ, again, Iâm laid back.
I suppose the biggest take away from todayâs conversation is that weâve talked before about JK tending to write âwhite as defaultâ, and itâs true that the white UK audience tends to think in terms of âwhite by defaultâ.  Just as people from other countries look at the kids in Harryâs class and think, âWell, if this was like my town, 2/3 of these kids would be Black,â many people in the UK read the books and thought, âWell, everyoneâs white apart from the kids cited not to be - Patil twins, Cho, Dean, Blaise etc,â because thatâs what matches with our own experiences.
I am 100% behind people reading the books in a way that makes them relevant to them.  I am not 100% behind people doing so, and then making outlandish claims about certain characters and their fansâŚbecause they havenât got the grasp of UK social history to understand why their claims are inaccurate.
Little bit of Cheryl blossom
When Draco starts taking off his shirt in front of Harry / Harry walks in while heâs shirtless and you know the Sectum Sempra Scars Angst is about to take place