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It’s such a change from 20-30 years ago because I remember when Max Martin was THE man with pop and it was not a cowriting situation like it is now with him.

i know! taylor was refreshing because she was writing

I dont listen to a lot of olivia and according to her fans im old and pathetic so i guess its a win win

it’s a group of people who genuinely think you’re worthless after the age of 26

“every popstar thinks they need to be a songwriter now” // literally the taylor swift effect lol

i know i literally know

I’m not quite an Olivia fan but I do think her uniqueness lies in the way she sings. I have heard people say she just sounds like she’s talking but I kinda disagree. It’s such an interesting cadence that’s pretty unmistakable. She can sing pretty quickly if that makes sense and it doesn’t sound all jumbled up. I feel like she should have a rapper do a bridge / interlude for her (there’s probably a word for this lol) and it would mesh so well. I feel like while that might not work for the vibes she believes her music portrays but I think it would sound good idk. Or at the very least she should lean into a real rock style and work with some more producers. Idk I think she could grow into a really good artist if she took in some more critique / collaborated with more people. and if her fans weren’t so whiny lol.

i actually appreciate this! this feels like an unfair critique but i actually find the way she sings really grating sometimes to the point where some of her song are unlistenable but im just one girl

Im speaking my truth. OR isn't *that* strong of a lyricist. She is however, very strong at fantastic production/concept and has great presence and once again needs to lean into that. She has good moments but I don't really think her lyrics have really evolved a lot from Sour and it's been years

every popstar thinks they need to be a songwriter now

The reason Sympathy is a Knife’s vulnerability is praised is because it encourages male views of women like “they’re always jealous and insecure of other women”. Similarly Olivia’s stuck as the ingenue for now and so she’s not threatening, it’s just girlish woes (similar to Fearless era Taylor).

Those critics are actually scared when it’s music where an artist acts like a woman and does it in a way that doesn’t encourage basic male perception of feminine issues

i’ll die on the hill that men just can’t fully get taylor’s music

#also olivia’s through line in her songs is that she’s so insecure it makes her mean #and i think that’s something she should work on instead of accepting

TTPD -> Showgirl is insane but I think there's nothing worse than Midnights -> TTPD. I would die.

ugh but they’re both so good

To be quite honest the reason why OR and CXCX are darlings for these generally extremely misogynistic music critics and get to skirt all the bs criticism that Taylor gets is because they attack the successful woman they dislike and don't mind being weaponized for this purpose.

no issue with other women being thrown under the bus as long as they’re propped up

listening to ttpd the night before tloas release// SHE DID THAT? HOLY FUCK

she said she listens to every past release the night before a new one!

love having free will because i used a gift card to the spa at a hotel today for a massage and i get access to amenities all day so now im having a cheeseburger and a spritz by the pool

I can’t imagine how writing in general post ttpd felt tbh.

her listening to ttpd the night before tloas release😵‍💫

just so far from that girl

Two things: I do firmly think that the her in “he was with her…” was another woman, but I also think he was only in love with her when they met and she was broken.

And also SHS is so important because it’s joyful vulnerability.

so high school is perfect because it takes all of the drinking and drugs and sex and mental health on the rest of the album and flips the narrative

It honestly annoyed me how people don't understand why Eldest Daughter is a track 5. It might be the most vulnerable song she's ever put out.

yeah like i don’t love every lyric but i think it’s beautiful and a really vulnerable sentiment

Taylor literally wrote “Every smile you fake is so condescending counting all the scars you’ve made”, at like 14-16 and they want to say that she didn’t have emotional depth as a young person.

i just think the majority of the songs on debut are better than the best song on sour. like let’s compare tim mcgraw to drivers license

i also find it hysterical and hypocritical how "music critics" such as fantano eat it up everytime the credits topic comes up surrounding OR. Like. Digusing your spite and hatred as knowledgeable music criticism is actually so fucking lame

the way the sued/demanded credits thing just doesn’t make sense especially with the elvis costello of it all

"He was with her in dreams" is a shining exemple of how a woman can destroy herself trying to help their partner and trying to make the relationship work only for them to see their now depressed self as undesirable

yup

I can’t imagine how writing in general post ttpd felt tbh. “Have a couple kids got the whole block looking like you” and “all that time I sat alone in my tower you were just honing your powers” after you’ve put out a deeply honest yet delusional album that distorts objective truth? Wow!

exactly she let us in on wanting that stuff again and that’s so brave

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