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coming from an expert here, I don’t think they should
Jason Ralph about Quentin’s development:
The struggles never go away, but the way that he responds to stimulus has shifted. Especially, after a lot of the experiences last year, last season [x, x].
they lived out a whole life. it is in fact crucial to the narrative that they experienced the beauty of all life. for half a century. together. and then it's brushed under the rug for a full season until they dust it off and fully recontextualize it affirming that yes they remember all of it yes they could have started all over again. in the season where quentin's only narrative and emotional arc is saving eliot. and then? we never talk about it ever again.
i love them sm
You know how in like -- episode 2 of The Magicians, we find out that the Big Scary Villain of much of the series has been literally camped out inside the brain of one of the main characters, comforting, advising, guiding, and manipulating him constantly throughout his entire life?
You know how that is...essentially never mentioned again, even though this same Big Scary Villain is a major fixture of seasons 1 and 2, and then shows up again in season 5? And nobody really. Brings up that connection, or reacts to it, including the two people intimately involved in this decade-plus-long campaign of psychic grooming?
That's weird, right? Someone should probably have said something.
what if you watched a show and it was so bad and you never got over it
‘Cause I’ve done everything I know to try and make you mine And I think I’m gonna love you for a long long time
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We loved each other for a really, really long time.
— Why do you care — I just…do.
You’re telling me they spent 50 years trying to find the beauty of all life together and DIDN’T explore each other’s bodies? Yeah- nice try, bucko.
based on that scene of q and the ropes
“Well, he means everything to me. […] I go back a long way with Quentin. I started writing The Magicians in 2004 – so 15 years ago – at a time when I was struggling really hard with depression. Quentin was me. I mean, we were both trying to find our way out if it, and for me it was happening with writing and for Quentin it was happening with magic. So, we kind if went through it all together. And, you know, in the books we both survived. Kind of a punch in the gut that he didn’t make it in the show.”
Lev Grossman answers the question “What does Quentin mean to you?” on The Physical Kids Weekly, episode 413
The thing about Eliot is that I think they were genuinely trying to write him as good-hearted but a bit vapid, which is an okay writing choice -- it would make him an appropriate narrative foil for almost everyone else on the show, since most of the main cast are bitter, cranky geniuses (affectionate) -- but it never quite works that way because Hale Appleman has this attentive way of being present in every scene that makes him seem deeply thoughtful. This is because Hale is deeply thoughtful, and because he's so committed to the show and the role that he kind of can't act like someone who's not fully tuned in to his surroundings. So Eliot radiates this intense presence and consciousness in every scene, just in his face and body, and it makes him seem like a smart, thoughtful person.
What's good about this is that it fully makes the character; Eliot has arguably the strongest arc in the whole show, and it's almost entirely created by the way Appleman is inhabiting the character as if he sees everything and everything matters to him. What's bad about this is that sometimes the script forces people -- including Eliot! -- to talk to and about Eliot as if he's a loveable but slightly useless pet, and it's utterly infuriating because it comes off as irrationally condescending.
first season of the magicians is like. margot and elliot prepare for the magical equivalent of the met gala. quentin writes angsty fillory fanfic. julia gets sets every one of her atoms on fire and murders a family of four to cast a needle-threading spell.
Quentin x his Fillory Pajamas.
they really said let’s give him a slutty baby onesie (x)