the thing is i would've been okay with no byler if they had actually, you know, written a good story, like, outside of it,

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@byler-rat
the thing is i would've been okay with no byler if they had actually, you know, written a good story, like, outside of it,
she deserved her own happy ending
the way all the straight characters in stranger things got a happy ending but all the queer characters got nothing or something very ambiguous
reminds me of what happened in the great gatsby when the only three characters who came from poor backgrounds ended up dead
it's been 100 years and we're really still doing this
āCanāt wait for Noahās NDA to expire!ā or ā Canāt wait for Finnās NDA to expireā oh boyā¦I canāt wait for MILLIEāS NDA to expire that girl is MAD MAD
āit was purple rain because el loves purple and they met in the rain!ā
i fear if that is the thought process behind that song choice, the writers must read at a second grade level because oh my god it makes that scene even worse
it still feels very unreal to me that we got miwi swingset flashback but no byler endgame. like i thought those 2 were a package deal
Kali my darling with a hard-to-digest but so exceptionally valid and understandable reaction to her absolute hell circumstances and horrific trauma I am so sorry they did you like that. You deserved to live happily ever after in a safe and stable environment surrounded by those you love and those who love you and I'm sorry the Duffers just can't stand their characters who have human reactions to their circumstances. You deserved better writers and you deserved a better fate.
And another thing, how the fuck did that whole Mike and El void scene even occur? Makes no sense with the prior established rules of the void in s1 and s2 etc
The Duffer brothers could be charged with murder and then when they get to court and the judge is asking for a defense theyād be like āit happened off screen also I had the fluā
Things I cant wait for and wish to see:
The duffer brothers, especially Ross, continuing to cry that we aren't going easy on them.
Other people who helped on the show to come out and say their piece. Extra points if it's Leigh Janiak.
The actors NDA's to wear off.
The internet continuing to troll their ass worse than before.
Someone to pick Noah and Finn up for another project together ASAP so their chemistry doesn't go to waste and they bring in that cash from wasted byler potential.
I will never get over the fact that the same people who wrote Will's Coming Out scene are also people that gave us this:
A scene that somehow managed to do the almost impossible:
write a believable, sweet and somewhat light Love Confession scene, that not only shows the audience Steve's feelings but also his growth as a person ("it's someone I didn't even talk to in school [...] it's all just a bunch of bullshit anyway")
somehow combines this with a Coming Out scene, which in my opinion is also perfectly in-character for Robin and gives us a nice callback to a prior scene that led people to believe that Robin had a crush on Steve (#straightbait)
shows us Steve's immediate acceptance of Robin and builds on the friendship they formed and the way they love to joke around (in this case about Robin's taste in woman)
makes us really feel for Robin, a character that was only introduced in that season
and it does all that without any overly dramatic tools. It's just the two of them talking, there is no immediate threat that pushes them both to confess, there aren't even really any tears and only some classic ST soundtrack in the backround but it still makes you feel
(bonus point: it gave us Tammy Thompson, aka the ghost that still haunts the narrative 2 seasons later)
God the more I think about any of it, the less it makes sense.
Wdym Will did the whole āhe didnāt want me to see thereā thing and it wasnāt a trap?
Wdym Vecna showed up, said he was gonna use Will again, WALKED AWAY and let everyone live, and then justā¦. Didnāt use him for anything.
(He did later but in retaliation for Max escaping and Will invading his mind, not related to the first thing)
Wdym Will only just discovered his powers and could simultaneously control and āVecnaā THREE impossibly strong demogorgons, and even CONTROL VECNA HIMSELF. But Vecna who has been getting continually stronger just⦠let our heroes get inside the Mind Flayer and kill him like nothing.
Wdym the Mind Flayer has been colonizing entire worlds but was killed in 0.2 seconds by a ragtag group of teens bc they got to one of his puppets and it said oh well, guess Iāll die too.
Wdym Will had to have a full fledged exorcism to get the particles out, and not doing so would mean he would die and even so he was still selectively affected by the hive mind anyways. But Holly and them just had to cough a little and the particles went out?
Wdym Will was being hurt by being connected to Vecna 0.2 seconds before he was killed, but killing him had no effect on Will at all ??
Wdym the only way to effect Vecna/the gate/etc was to use love instead of hate- and thatās even how Will got his powers two minutes ago. But in the final battle we just need to show up and have an ax or something ?
Wdym the particles still being in the world after the exorcism was and existential threat for two seasons, but we let the particles go up the radio tower and didnāt even spare it a glance ??
Wdym Hopper and Joyce knew Henry in high school and were even kind of friends with him, but they never said a word to Vecna when they actually met him ??
Wdym they were involved in a supernatural investigation related to Henry back in the day but then acted like this was all brand new information and Joyce was crazy in S1 ?
Wdym the playwrite had to take out big parts of the script so it wouldnāt spoil S5? What was there to spoil ??
Wdym you used tons of things as inspiration and as actual references in the show that had memory manipulation, unreality, fake endings, alternate timelines, time travel, etc etc and you had a villain ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS but justā¦. Didnāt.
Wdym one proximity based couple who was pressured to get together by outsiders and who had communication issues and lies and toxic jealousy was unhealthy, but the other was TWU WUV ?
Wdym a hallway crush is the same as a lifelong friendship that was āthe best thing they ever didā?
Wdym we should analyze the show, but numbers and patterns and dates mean nothing ??
Wdym the characters had beliefs and plans for the final episode, and they all went exactly how they thought they would?
Wdym you got THEE Sarah Connor and you just had her play a cartoon villain?
Wdym the military just let them go and Max was able to graduate on time and Hopper was able to resume his job as chief?
Wdym the demogorgons and dogs and bats just stopped existing?
Wdym Vecna said the victims were all in his mind, but only Max actually was?
Wdym you gave Will powers and brought Kali back and maybe even hinted at Holly and them having the potential for powers, but then you barely used them in the Final Battle at all ??
Wdym we just let those pregnant women die ??
Wdym there was a traitor ??
Wdym the coming out took 12 hours to write yet had continuity errors and was longer than the final battle?
Wdym you had two setbacks that pushed production back by half a decade but you didnāt have the finale written as you were filming it ?? What were you doing all that time?
Wdym we revealed the tunnels, but the military didnāt bother checking them afterwords?
Wdym all those dick jokes were just random?
Wdym you are your brother and M marks the spot ? But then Mike does literally nothing at all ?
Wdym Papa suddenly became Van Gogh when he couldnāt even doodle a dog?
Wdym Papa created exotic matter and knew all about the upside down and Henry and everything, when they couldnāt even set foot inside the gate in S1 and the rest of the military thought everything was all Elās fault ?
Wdym the spores might be toxic or not?
Wdym we just left the one ring rock out in the desert for whoever else to find ?
Wdym Holly and them fuckass kids had more screen time than our already established characters?
Wdym Dr Owens and Argyle and Susie and Vickie just poofed into thin air?
Wdym this is a coming of age story and each season has gotten progressively darker and more mature, but the final season is 90% references to childrenās books and fairy tales ? But also the āpersonification of childhoodā has to die at the end.
Wdym this show is for outcasts and freaks but lol wouldnāt it be sooo cringe if a character got a mohawk ? Or *gasp* dyed their hair ?? Also we can suddenly become bffs with the jocks who hated us, BUT to be accepted and happy we have to move away or die or both(?) ?
Wdym you queerbaited in the year 2026 ?? In a show for outcasts ??
Wdym you had no intention behind any decision ?
so is the reason Will said that thing about going to melvalds for milkshakes because they used AI to write the scene and the AI referenced the fucking play or something
you can definitely tell straight people wrote will's coming out scene with how humiliating and off the whole thing felt. ā ļø
why am i just now realizing that the duffer brothers are really icky??
like all of the things noah schnapp said about how they dealt with his and will's sexualities behind the screen, as well as the homophobia and misogyny they're starting to display, the strange way they talk about violence towards children, as well as all of the kissing drama that happened when the cast were minors and the borderline insensitive way they represented will's and the kids' sexual assault allegories in the show?
something feels very off to me, and i don't know how i haven't noticed until now.
So Henry just likes the number 12, and also clocks, and also libraries
For no reason tho