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This was inspired by the kataang artist who started the trend.
Katara and Sokka
Mai in Ba Sing Se
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'azula tried to kill zuko' unlike zuko, who famously never attempted to kill azula.
This panel represents so much to me. This precise and edgy baddie here nearly had an escalating one-on-one against THE Fire Nation princess and firebending prodigy Azula. Skilled enough as a non-bender to team up with her to hunt THE Avatar and his Gang and be a real pain in their butt.
But when it comes to these brats she needs a moment to motivate herself 😂 I feel her so much. Sometimes you are very good in a specific field and then you get out of this bubble and try something new. Something totally different. It feels so uncomfortable that you literally question yourself in the most fundamental way. But hey, Mai is ready to leave her comfort zone and try her best for the sake of a better future, knowing the system failed her and all the other girls she spent her childhood with. Fighting isn’t what is expected from her anymore. Instead, she’s asked to guide, teach and support these girls. So how about leaving the blades at home and dedicating yourself to different aspects of life?
Trying to grow into a role you never thought you could fill. Sometimes discovering who you are means trying things that don’t immediately fit your old identity. That can feel awkward or even embarrassing. But it doesn’t mean you’ve become someone else. It means you’re learning that you’re capable of more than you thought you could do or be. I read here and there that it’s OOC, but tbh a post-war young adult will always be very different from their teenager version. Especially when they didn’t even like the situation they were in due to political or cultural norms. Breaking out of a repressed state isn’t OOC. It’s maybe unusual since the character discovers herself, does stuff that doesn’t align with her old self, but that’s okay. She already chose her own convictions over blind loyalty, even when it meant standing against Azula. That alone shows she was always capable of change. Ashes simply explores another side of her character. It would actually feel less believable if she stayed exactly the same forever after the war ended.
Mai is getting more depth and being fleshed out in a way we never knew her before and I love it. 😊
Loopy, I’ve got a big Mai Psychology question to throw at you. I’m pretty stumped myself, frankly, and even after pondering it for a while can’t come up with much. So, here it goes:
What’re the core elements of Mai’s identity / sense of self?
To use our favorite boomerang-slinger as an easier example, Sokka cares about Katara’s (and his other friends’) safety, making his dad proud, holding his own in a fight, contributing to the group, making romantic gestures to the girl he likes, and winning the war. From those motivations, we can infer that he has a strong understanding of himself as a son, brother, and friend, a warrior, a protector (of his sister, friends, and village), a leader (eventually), a good boyfriend, and a member of the Water Tribe—among other things, I’m sure. It’s relatively easy to piece together Sokka’s sense of identity because although he doesn’t exactly monologue about his feelings much, his actions speak plenty loudly. (It’s not as if he—or anyone—has to be consciously aware of who they see themselves as anyway.)
Mai, on the other hand, is a tough nut to crack. She has a family, of course, but does she have a strong sense of herself as a daughter or sister? While she isn’t totally indifferent to her parents and brother, it’s hard to make the case that filial piety or sibling fraternity are motivating parts of her sense of self. Similarly, she freely fights the enemies of the Fire Nation and doesn’t express any open skepticism about the imperialist project, but she’s not exactly a jingoistic nationalist either—can’t really put ‘patriotic Fire Nation citizen’ high on the list. Her friendship with Azula and Ty Lee seems stronger, and her relationship with Zuko even more so, but while those probably are enduring parts of her identity, she isn’t fully reliant on them. After all, she only reunites with those three after a long period apart. Another possibility is simply ‘highborn Fire Nation noblewoman’—there are some things that she sees as beneath her (jumping into the drill slurry), and she gives some indicators (elaborate hairstyle, fruit tart with petals, asking Zuko to get her food at Chan’s party) that she has certain expectations for her quality of life. (For a while I’ve wondered if Mai is functionally an Epicurean hedonist, primarily interested in contentment, comfort, and the company of the few people she likes, which goes along with that general idea.)
Anyway, I’ll spare you any more speculative rambling—feel free to dispute anything I’ve suggested here, because I really was just spitballing. Thanks!
If the question doesn't seem to have an answer, then perhaps the question is the answer.
(/Iroh)
To elaborate, I think you're on the right track as far as what Mai values and doesn't value, but what makes the conclusions so hard to pin down is that Mai exists in survival mode for much of her life and as such considers everything else to be superfluous and fodder for sacrifice if holding onto it would be too dangerous. That includes her family, her nation, her friends, and (I suspect, although this isn't in evidence in the cartoon) her luxury. It isn't until the Boiling Rock where she decides to reverse course and value something more than her survival.
However, it's important not to overstate this need for survival, because Mai is also a bit of an adrenaline-junkie and enjoys life-threatening combat. I like to think this urge lessens after the cartoon's finale, as she no longer needs those kinds of thrills in order to feel alive. So let's say that while she values survival, she doesn't value safety. I'd say this comes from a craving for engagement; hedonism is fun for her, but she needs something to add color and uniqueness. She doesn't have to chase thrills, though, as I think a good book or an interesting bug is enough for her.
Arguably, Mai doesn't really start to form a real sense of self/identity until 'Ashes of the Academy,' when she gets passionate about protecting and guiding the next generation without it being a means to any other end. One could cast this as a desire for self-healing, that she's protecting the next generation because it feels like giving her younger self the protect she wanted. However, I've headcanon'd (even before that comic) that Mai finds real fulfillment in teaching and mentoring as part of her service to a better world, so I'm inclined to make her role as a teacher a calling that she loves in and of itself.
So part of the core of Mai's character(for much of the time that fuels our fanfic is that she's seeking a sense of who she really is- and maybe has even mostly given up until Zuko enters her life again. Something I like to do in fanfics set before the Boiling Rock is have Mai convinced that she doesn't think she values her relationship with Zuko (or love in general) more than anything else in her life, that she is ready and capable of cutting it all loose the second it becomes a liability.
So if I had to name elements that are key to Mai overall, I'd say she wants to love and be loved, she wants to be constant learning, and later she wants to leave the world better than she found it.
I'm not sure if that really answers your question in the detail you're looking for. But something else I can suggest as a fun exercise is to see how much you can take away from the character while still keeping the character feeling like themselves. For example, in one Azula fic I wrote, I took away her power, her appearance, her lightning, her minions, and her advantage in intelligence over her opponents, then had her try to build herself up again. (I will admit I have mixed feelings on how well this worked. People liked it, but I'm not sure I got the exact kind of reactions I was looking for (aside from one).)
In my Traitor's Face fic, I did something similar with Mai, and the core I built on was her loyalty to an idealistic cause: again, that 'making the world better' thing. She has to uncover this part of herself, but it eventually guides her through losing her nation, her red clothing, her luxuries, her family, and her Ty Lee.
So I hope that gives you enough to go off of. It's a fun exercise, especially since I tend to be more intuitive with my sense of the characters and only put this stuff into words when asked about it.
This gives me plenty to go off of—thank you! And it’s a better answer than I deserve for asking such a speculative question.
“…while she values survival, she doesn’t value safety.”
That’s a great frame for understanding her that I never would have considered. So is this:
“…she wants to love and be loved, she wants to be constant learning, and later she wants to leave the world better than she found it.”
Especially with her becoming a teacher, ‘someone who’s changing the world for the better’ really fits as a central part of her identity post-Boiling Rock—a budding idealism for ‘that gloomy girl who sighs a lot’!
Thanks for all this, Loopy!
Okay. I got impatient- was gonna post this tomorrow but I don't feel like waiting- so here we have: An 'At some point during Zuko's reign' comic thingy :D
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Do you think Mai has low self-esteem? She came across to me as someone who has a healthy amount of self-esteem. I'm surprised to see this take in the fandom a lot.
Yes and no.
I think she considers herself to have value, and no one can make her believe otherwise. She's never going to wonder "Am I good enough?" unless she's counting enemies and trying to figure out if she can take a hundred dudes or if she should wait until about 20 of them knock off for lunch.
However, for a long time, she did not think she had the power to affect the horrible world around her in any way. She was devaluing her own impact on life, thinking the best she could do was carve a little space where she could hide a few happinesses in the shadows as long as she contorted herself into the right shape against the glare of the sun. She eventually discovers that not only can she take positive action and express herself, she can actually effect change and shape the world to her will.
So I would say that Mai's self-esteem trends up across her timeline, but it already starts with a solid and very hard core.