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[xathira]

go get it, boy!

[fictionkinfessions]

*cries in xue yang* me: hey, tarot cards, am i really kin w/ xue yang?? /// my cards: you have childhood issues, you kight be regressing to a earlier state (for better or worse) and you have a deeper unconsious relationship with xue yang that idk if your ready to deal with. /// me: rude??? but... am i?? /// cards: figure it out.

[fictionkinfessions]

*dies inside but in a xue yang sort of way* my biid manifests in my eye and my pinkie and i wondered for years why its so specific and i know u cant solve medical stuff with spiritual stuff but. My most recent past life was a deer and i died getting shot in the eye (the same eye my biid says is Wrong) and as xue yang my pinkie got fucking Murked™️. So. Theres that.

[fictionkinfessions]

*simps in xue yang* if you pay attention to me i will love you forever and thats just something were all gonna have to deal with

[luoqingyanq]

I can’t control him. What should we do?

[rose-vybe]

Evil mice at work ;)

[alternormal]

Alterhuman Terminology in Other Languages

So I have been thinking if there exist translations to other languages for alterhumanity, plurality, kinity, kithness, vampirism, etc. I specifically looked at Spanish ones because that is my native language. All I could find was this and this.

However now I am wondering how would alterhuman terms in other languages looks like, or if it even exists. Does anybody have sources?

[zutiefst-bewegt-deactivated2021]

German-speaking countries imported the were (later therian), otherkin, draconic and furry communities and largely kept the terminology. How a particular community defines their terms can be slightly different from the international community. Just because people adopted a word from english-speakers doesn’t mean that they also adopt every definition change that happens in international spaces, if they pay attention to those at all. You’ll also come across the term “Seelentier” (Seele = soul, tier = animal). It’s used to refer to a strong spiritual bond shared with an animal, which includes, but is not limited to, people who self-describe as therians.

Old furries sometimes divide the fandom into “Furfans” and “Seelenfurs” depending on whether someone participates in the fandom because they simply are interested in anthropomorphic animals or whether they fit the description of a therian. This divide exists because the german-speaking furry fandom used to be synonymous with the therian community in the early days. Both communities were dragged over the pond and built up by people who often had a very strong connection with their animal side, and some of them still view therianthropy and being a furry as the same thing. As more and more people joined who simply liked furry art, the fandom grew more superficial. The spiritual beginnings lost importance and the communities grew somewhat apart.

I’m not sure if german-speaking folks have adopted ‘heartedness or any other recent alterhuman terms. I’m largely sticking out of strictly ‘kin-centric spaces. Some probably have if they follow what goes on in the international community. My small internet home lies in the overlap between furries, therians, ‘kin and draconics, where ‘heartedness and ‘linking serve no real purpose.

I haven’t touched the modern vampire community in years, but last time I checked, they liked to call themselves vampyres with a Y.

My short cursory search into german-speaking plural spaces (excluding tulpamancy) exclusively came up with support groups that center a medicalized understanding of DID/OSDD/adjacent things (not) in the ICD/DSM. One group proposed an “ego state disorder” that reads as “singlet-adjacent” medianhood to me. The descriptions talked about people who switch between different versions of themselves, but never experience their facets as distinct people who they could have a conversation with. If you dig around long enough, you’ll probably find something similar to the plural community though. I just haven’t done it.

I could dig up some sources if someone who can read German was seriously interested. I’m afraid though that most communities that I know of have already disappeared into digital decay. I can’t even retrieve the forum (Wortquell anyone?) where I first learned what a “were”, a “therian” and “shifting” were through the waybackmachine.

[flock-of-changes]

alterhuman =/= otherkin

I keep seeing this conflation and it’s getting to be a huge problem, with some “alterhuman” places being either kin-specific, nonhuman-specific, or even sysmedicalist?? 

Otherkin are constantly upset over the preservation of the definition of otherkin, but I have seen none of that concern extended to the definition of alterhuman, which was coined …. because otherkin were concerned about becoming an umbrella term and losing the definition of otherkin. 

You see the problem here? 

Alterhuman is an umbrella. It’s a wide, wide umbrella that’s very comparable to “queer” in how it’s inclusive and open. It includes ‘kin, sure, but it also includes post/furries, voidpunkers, other-hearted people and people with heart-homes, plurans of ALL kinds, singlet walk-ins, copinglinkers, and pretty much anyone with non-typical experiences of species identity, embodiment, narrative identity and personal mythology.  You know what other identities I’ve seen that don’t fit in those nice labels? People who identify as archetypal tropes, or “wild men,” or early hominids, or even having absolutely no species identity and being “aspecies.” I know someone who feels deeply like they should have been a twin and feels that in an alterhuman way. I’m close to someone who is literally undead – not Cotard’s delusional undead (though those people are here, too!), but literally was pronounced legally dead and resuscitated. That’s pretty fucking alterhuman. And there’s plenty more I know I’m either forgetting or leaving out for brevity.

Alterhuman is meant to encompass identities you probably haven’t even thought of before, people who use different words or frameworks for similar experiences, and more. It is not a synonym for otherkin, it is not here to replace otherkin, and it is also not a synonym for nonhuman. Alterhuman is alterhuman. If you say something is for alterhumans, you should mean ALL alterhumans.

[archive-professional-jaywalker]

Just to mention it bc french community pride : there was a term used in french alterhuman circles, otherhuman, for early hominids or humans who were convinced they should have been born in another universe, including fictional! It’s extremely interesting, and I just want to put it out there because people don’t always realize that, yeah being otherkin is not the only alterhuman thing, and there are many, many weird things. I’d love to read more non otherkin experiences, feeling Non-Human is just one part of the group.

[flock-of-changes]

Thank you so much for that addition because “otherhuman” is such a good word. Bless French alterhuman communities :D this is amazing thanks for sharing! (Also if you have any links to writing about this or French alterhuman sites or anything I’m very open to this :o)

[archive-professional-jaywalker]

Les otherhumen

Quest-ce quun otherhuman ?... Un otherhuman (ou autre humain en français) est une personne ayant le sentiment dappartenir à une autre esp

https://empreinte.forumactif.com/t393-les-otherhumen

Here’s the forum I know, with the otherhuman thing. I’m not often there but I know some peeps.

taisniere.tumblr.com

This person is also french, I know she has several blogs, one for nonhumanity, and at least one for daemonism? I believe she also has a youtube channel.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCaQ0bQ_PT-FVU1zj-gfOmoQ

Taishoera - Therianbox

Le B.A.BA de la therianthropie expliqué aux novices !

[flock-of-changes]

alterhuman =/= otherkin

I keep seeing this conflation and it’s getting to be a huge problem, with some “alterhuman” places being either kin-specific, nonhuman-specific, or even sysmedicalist?? 

Otherkin are constantly upset over the preservation of the definition of otherkin, but I have seen none of that concern extended to the definition of alterhuman, which was coined …. because otherkin were concerned about becoming an umbrella term and losing the definition of otherkin. 

You see the problem here? 

Alterhuman is an umbrella. It’s a wide, wide umbrella that’s very comparable to “queer” in how it’s inclusive and open. It includes ‘kin, sure, but it also includes post/furries, voidpunkers, other-hearted people and people with heart-homes, plurans of ALL kinds, singlet walk-ins, copinglinkers, and pretty much anyone with non-typical experiences of species identity, embodiment, narrative identity and personal mythology.  You know what other identities I’ve seen that don’t fit in those nice labels? People who identify as archetypal tropes, or “wild men,” or early hominids, or even having absolutely no species identity and being “aspecies.” I know someone who feels deeply like they should have been a twin and feels that in an alterhuman way. I’m close to someone who is literally undead – not Cotard’s delusional undead (though those people are here, too!), but literally was pronounced legally dead and resuscitated. That’s pretty fucking alterhuman. And there’s plenty more I know I’m either forgetting or leaving out for brevity.

Alterhuman is meant to encompass identities you probably haven’t even thought of before, people who use different words or frameworks for similar experiences, and more. It is not a synonym for otherkin, it is not here to replace otherkin, and it is also not a synonym for nonhuman. Alterhuman is alterhuman. If you say something is for alterhumans, you should mean ALL alterhumans.

[wiittyusername]

[therianomalocaris]

one thing we need to reconcile with the otherkin community is some of us DO see ourselves as fully non-human in the present. like im not partially human or a human with past lives, im a robot and thats where this begins and ends. it’s how i fully see myself all the time and it’s very different from my past life kintypes in that way.

and like idk i feel like a lot of ‘kin folx tend to try to avoid topics like this because it’s definitely weirder (read: less socially acceptable) than “i have past lives that influence my current life but im still mostly human”, but trying to appeal to non-kin sensibilities in that way is useless and frankly completely stupid because you KNOW non-kin will never get it.

i guess my point is yes it’s weird and yes it invites mockery but so what? cringe blogs and similar people on the internet will always laugh at us. sanitizing the community because you think itll make bullies be nicer to us is just really fucking dumb.

[coehellacanth]

we are in final boss territory, kiddos

[sysmon]

There’s this post in the kin tag talking about punk-kin and being uh… not the brightest on it, but I’m thinking shit. kinpunk would be really cool 

Like something about 

Rejection of human social norms 

Embracing abnormal experiences 

Embracing abnormal not human behaviors 

Wearing makeup to look nonhuman, wearing tails, etc 

The use of cosplay too in a fictionkin sense 

Trying to do good in the world on the basis you’re not from it 

etc… 

Sort of like voidpunk but for people who actually identify as nonhuman, or maybe alterpunk/ahpunk (alterhuman) to be more broad. 

The person who originally posted it was talking about “kin who break stereotypes” but I feel like kinpunk would be people who actually fit the stereotypes. People who make nonhuman vocalizations, who make themselves look nonhuman, who are eccentric about having a strange or unusual identity, etc. Just being unashamed to be what you are and expressing it. 

In terms of rejecting gatekeeping, that should be a thing too, but not “people can pick their kintypes”. I mean accepting fictionkin from weird sources, objectkin, conceptkin, and so on. 

[vagabond-sun]

we’ve had conversations about something like this in alt+h! and like, as much as i want to say ‘alterhuman’ already is all that… like, on the one hand, the word was coined by people with certain ideologies and is generally used by people with certain ideologies, on the other hand, i don’t think it’s the best idea to say you have to believe certain things and take certain stances to use an identity-word, so i see the logic behind wanting words to describe those ideas and potential movements as a separate thing.

and y’know, clearly other people think similarly, if other people are having this idea too. and coming up with a lot of the same points! so i figured i’d include some of the conversation on alt+h abt it under the cut for interest’s sake.

(tl;dr for anyone who doesn’t want to read beyond this point: the idea started pretty much identically to what OP stated, and as we explored it we found that it had areas where it expanded beyond the boundaries of alterhuman identity per se. we talked about calling it ontopunk, both because of this and issues with ‘alter-’ as a prefix. there are some good ideas in here, and they don’t necessarily need to be only for otherkin and alterhumans!)

Keep reading

[sysmon]

There’s this post in the kin tag talking about punk-kin and being uh… not the brightest on it, but I’m thinking shit. kinpunk would be really cool 

Like something about 

Rejection of human social norms 

Embracing abnormal experiences 

Embracing abnormal not human behaviors 

Wearing makeup to look nonhuman, wearing tails, etc 

The use of cosplay too in a fictionkin sense 

Trying to do good in the world on the basis you’re not from it 

etc… 

Sort of like voidpunk but for people who actually identify as nonhuman, or maybe alterpunk/ahpunk (alterhuman) to be more broad. 

The person who originally posted it was talking about “kin who break stereotypes” but I feel like kinpunk would be people who actually fit the stereotypes. People who make nonhuman vocalizations, who make themselves look nonhuman, who are eccentric about having a strange or unusual identity, etc. Just being unashamed to be what you are and expressing it. 

In terms of rejecting gatekeeping, that should be a thing too, but not “people can pick their kintypes”. I mean accepting fictionkin from weird sources, objectkin, conceptkin, and so on. 

[kaprosuchus-saharicus]

This shit sounds 👌👌👌

[cannibalkinprince]

Gonnaa break out my pendulum (or make an attempt to) and try to figure out some stuff

[toast-bc]

Hi! I'd like to request Papa 2 and Papa 3 doing some sort of ritual (Ghouls probably helping in the background) in which they try to sacrifice Cardi's rrrrats. Cardi's rat senses start tingling from the other room so he rushes in to intervene. I'd be so grateful if you got to this but take your time! Love your content.

copia used: cry

it’s super effective

also i’m obsessed with killstar—yea that is lucipurr

also sowwy im sleepy as fuk and couldnt figure out how to incorporate papa 2 so i hope i didnt disappoint too badly :c

[PANEL 1]

KID COPIA: (angrily) “EMERITUS!!! DON’T YOU DARE—OR I’LL”[PANEL 2]KID EMERITUS 3: (Mockingly, as he dangles a rat by the tail) “Or what? You’ll eat all our cheese?”KID SPECIAL GHOUL: (Holding Lucipurr) “Haha”

[PANEL 3]KID COPIA: (Face reddening) “…..”[PANEL 4]KID COPIA: (Breaking down and tearing up) “I know you hate me—I know it’s fun to mess with me… but please. Please don’t hurt my rats.”[PANEL 5]KID COPIA: (Visibly crying) “They’re the only friends I h-have!”[PANEL 6/FINAL]KID EMERITUS 3: (Remorsefully holding out rat) “I’M—I’M sorry! Please forgive us…!”KID SPECIAL GHOUL: (sniffling)

[cannibalkinprince]

Misc. Rick memories

I dont know what my dimension was called so i call it pzz-420 (because pizza and weed)

Beth and Jerry were SUPER divorced

I never had beth in my own dimension so i was assigned a morty whos rick had died (they didnt really know eachother)

I was still in flesh curtains! I took morty to a bunch of out concerts, but fae didn't like loud noises so fae usually stayed backstage

My morty was nb and i remember faer using fae/faer pronouns but that could be a personal bias

Me morty and summer were all autistic

Morty had a lowkey crush in me for like a month and it was extremely awkward fkr all of us until fae got over it

[cannibalkinprince]

hello i didn't see a message option, are you looking for your damien perhaps from your pip canon? (kenny too)

Not actively, but im always up to talk! My main is @borderlinehannibal !