ECLIPSE’S IMMUNITY? HEH. THE STAR!
I KNOW WHY ECLIPSE ISN’T BEING AFFECTED. EDD’S TEAPS RANT / THEORY
WORST PART ABOUT REMAKING A BLOG? LOSING YOUR OLD FUCKING RANTS. BUCKLE UP, I HAVE TO RE-EXPLAIN THIS. If you understand all the background context already, feel free to skip to the SECOND big red text!
Eclipse MIGHT still be soul bonded with The Star, and that is the exact reason he’s not reacting to the virus like anyone else. It’s EXTREMELY important to theorize about this because DAVIS WENT THROUGH A LOOTT OF UNNECESSARY WORK TO HIGHLIGHT “HEY! THESE AREN’T NORMAL SYMPTOMS.”
The Star isn’t active, he can’t use his powers - not because they diminished, but because he’s not in his original dimension. That doesn’t make the Star useless, it just takes away its power, and the ability for Eclipse to use magic.
Allow me to take you back, to OLD, OLD tsams. 2022.
If anyone wants to go hunting for these quotes to fact check, go for it. I just don’t have the episodes on hand.
Moon and Eclipse’s Singularity
Pre-split Sun + Moon. Eclipse doesn’t exist because Eclipse is Moon. I am coming to realize not many people acknowledge that. Most believe Eclipse is killcode, this is misinformation. He is only PART of killcode. He, in Moon’s code, is identified as “Malice” or “Moon’s Malice”. He is a personality trait, which is why his personality was so cramped and underdeveloped through V1. Because his code was so bare in separation, Sun’s code rubbed off on him giving him his body.
Moon discusses with other characters that the Star is essentially linked to the first person who uses it. They, and The Star, create a bond that can’t be severed. This, theoretically and by pure technicality, would’ve been Moon pre-split. That means Eclipse was present. They found the Star, a bare piece of energy, and added onto it with THEIR TECHNOLOGY AND KNOWLEDGE that made it a wieldable weapon.
HOWEVER, because of Moon’s lack-of ‘Star Power Incidents’ as far as I’ve seen, this means the Star wasn’t used upon creation. Instead, it was used by the first person who truly got their hands on it…Eclipse. By Moon’s logic, Eclipse is now bonded to the Star in a way that cannot be severed.
The Star is a repeating prophecy. It will be reborn over and over again over the course of a millennium or so. It will not have a full physical form after destruction, but Star Power itself is in everything and cannot be removed. Like the existence of existing itself. The Neuton Star (as Moon originally names it) will always be built upon and used. This is why Astrals exist, to protect that Star and keep it from the wrong hands.
2023-2024, Eclipse wins. He has the Star, he discovers and labels The Astrals, then after rotting by himself, he decides he doesn’t care anymore. Instead, he decides to let himself die. Until - he has an unexplained vision. A vision that Lunar will cause an Armageddon. He becomes desperate to warn, overtaken by a new purpose as he gets lured straight into an unneeded death trap.
Eclipse is obliterated. Moon, Solar, and Sun use a satellite to airstrike Eclipse and send him, and the Star, into oblivion. Eclipse reunites with Solar Flare in a place between life and death. Solar Flare reassures him it is over, there’s nothing left to do. Eclipse refuses at first, but slowly melts into frustration and regret.
Solar Flare walks off to enjoy death.
This is important. Because he didn’t ever fully die.
Additional “Rocky-Road Idea”
We don’t actually know if the Star’s been obliterated. I say this because in the beginning of The Star’s existence, it was given to Montgomery Gator. At the time, Monty tried to break it and destroy it in every way possible. This included a BLACK HOLE experiment, and - fittingly enough, an airstrike experiment with a satellite from space. Whether the Star was ever destroyed in the first place is still a question I cannot answer.
Eclipse is made to believe he is a carbon copy, a clone, NOT the real Eclipse. This is false. This has always been false. If you pay attention, you knew this was false already.
Eclipse wakes up after resurrection with no clues as to where he is, no reason to understand he’s alive, and has a SURGE of issues. He’s paranoid, his personality has been drastically damaged. He’s terrified, anxious, lacking of hate and focusing on answers.
He immediately knows who brought him back. Ruin. And he is DEAD SET on proving it, even after being called crazy. As if he watched it and forgotten it. He has no recollection of anything, his memories are jumbled at first. He reports it was “as if his memories were in third person”. Like the show. This means When Ruin built him, he originally programmed his memories in the same fashion Nexus tried to regain any while being New Moon. He imported all the episodes into his systems.
Yet, he’s traumatized. He’s reacting to issues that happened off screen. He remembers more and more as time goes on, no longer in third person, but in first. We can read discover this BECAUSE he has trauma responses. Nexus did not experience the years of trauma Moon went through, nor did he react to it. Eclipse did react to his own trauma. Often.
Eclipse has a surge of magic. He’s never been committed in any form to learn magic, he’s detested it numerous times. He’s only learned a few things - however, when he confronts the Creator, he instinctively uses it to shove The Creator away. Validly, both him and The Creator are surprised, but Eclipse shoves the issue away, never talking about it again.
As Eclipse moves into this new dimension, all his little “incidents” disappear. The Star is still present, but it is inactive. This is because of the blunt fact that Stars cannot be used in incorrect universes. By moving to a new universe, Eclipse is rendered as helpless as he always has been.
The Memory Of Star Power Theory
Because of all these little details, I came up with the theory that -
V4 isn’t a copy, he is, and always has been, the ORIGINAL Eclipse. I screamed about this for a WHILE. PAPERS! PAPERS! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!
I am currently calling it “Memory of Star Power”, but, the memory for water comes from Moana, basically saying “because water is a fluid that can take the shape of anything, it remembers the shape of everything that touches it.”
[Heavily theorized] When Eclipse originally died, the destruction of the Star caused a surge. Not in electricity, but in Star Power. Star Power exists everywhere, The Star is just a physical manifestation of it, and will always be the center point where Star Power is the most prevalent. This is how Eclipse originally tracked it down in 2022-2023. Suddenly exploding the main body can make the Star Power in the area almost suffocating - if it wasn’t as natural, or lively as oxygen.
The remnants of Eclipse, his memories, his DIMENSIONAL CODE, or even his SOUL dispersed with that power, roaming earth like oxygen without anywhere to go…until, a few months later, when Ruin creates his little side project(V4). The idle Star Power was aware of V4 as a work in progress created by Ruin because Star Power is omnipotent without a conscious. Simply because it exists everywhere, and remembers all that is.
Eclipse wasn’t “conscious” at the time, he was dead. But, that memory followed with him when the Star Power RETURNS to Eclipse’s body to find its rightful place…in that un-severable bond with Eclipse.
It is as if Eclipse himself has fulfilled the Rebuilt Star prophecy by BECOMING the Star - in an odd metaphor way, and a literal sense.
BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN RECENTLY, INDIRECTLY CONFIRMED TO BE CANON. Eclipse confronts Ruin about if he truly is just a carbon copy like Ruin has said he is. Ruin drops that - no. He never was. He was never a cheap copy to begin with. Ruin says if Eclipse had never died, he would still have turned out like this eventually.
This means that Eclipse was effectively revived from TRUE death. This is highlighted because no other character other than LUNAR has met TRUE DEATH and come back without some universe breaking rules. But…lowkey…Lunar ended up the same way - he was reborn as a Star. How…how interesting.
Now that you know THAT, what’s it gotta deal with the current Virus?
DAVIS HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT ECLIPSE ISN’T HAVING THE RIGHT SYMPTOMS. When people in the show share contradictory opinions, you have to cherry pick with some EXTREME critical thinking.
Ruin, someone DAVIS plays as, stares at the Virus’ symptoms that BELONG TO HIS CHARACTER - and says “That isn’t normal.”
Charlie claims The Virus acts differently for everyone. This is a direct combat against Ruin’s claim.
However, seconds later she contradicts her own claim.
Another thing to mention is that Ruin ISN’T being DUMB. He’s HIGHLY educated on this out of all things from sheer experience. He is lashing out in anger and desperation, but he is not allowing it to CONTROL him like we saw in his first lash out against Charlie.
He refrains from cussing, tries to convince, provide evidence, explain himself - he is not attacking Charlie verbally, trying to put her down, or anything of the sort. He is simply desperate because they are ALMOST at the finish line, and now everyone is backing out. Which, can be fatal.
Ruin is objectively correct. Everyone CAN survive and then be cured AFTER being infected. Especially since Ruin is inherently immune and working on the cure. That is their current goal for the virus with MONTGOMERY GATOR. Once they have the cure, they can disperse it EVERYWHERE.
The main concern for everyone else is “what’s going to happen between now and then?” People could die, the world could end, permanent damage could be inflicted, and IS being inflicted AS WE SPEAK. Hundreds of people are losing their lives while Ruin is held them back from killing Monty at the beginning.
But, if they back out of making a cure now, if they decide to kill Montgomery, it’s not going to save everyone. In fact, it is far too late for that, because it can now be considered the end of the world. The virus has spread across the globe. There isn’t any way to “kill Monty and kill the rest” like a patient zero outbreak - because Montgomery Gator IS NOT PATIENT ZERO. RUIN IS. Whether that can now be applicable if we were to kill Ruin is up for debate.
The Virus now has MILLIONS of hosts. Once Monty dies, it will CONTINUE to spread. Ruin’s decision to make a cure was a fatal decision when Monty first came around, because then, they HAD a choice. They think they no longer do now because everyone is dying - but they aren’t realizing that they are about to choose a choice that NO LONGER EXISTS.
RUIN IS NOT ACTING IRRATIONALLY TO ACT IRRATIONALLY. RUIN’S CURE IS LIKELY THE ONLY REAL OPTION THEY HAVE ANYMORE. RUIN IS ACTING LIKE THIS BECAUSE HE HAS LIVED THIS EXACT SCENARIO BEFORE, AND KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
Ruin is very disconnected from humanity. He doesn’t WANT to see them die, but if it comes to it, Ruin would throw away the species to save something greater. He has before, and he will again. This stems from his years of brainwashing low-key. “Humans must die” and all that.
FINALLY. AFTER ALL THIS INFORMATION, HERE’S WHAT I CLAIM
The remnants of Star inside Eclipse is cancelling The Virus. Negatively.
The Virus gets into your head and essentially takes control of you, turning you into another person entirely, and sealing yourself away in the back of your subconscious. [Third time, Eclipse?] [sorry that was uncalled for] That “new person”, that SHELL, that ENDGAME of the Virus is what takes your memories, your virtual amygdala, and twists it around and heightens it like nothing else before. It will take things you are no longer dwelling on, and use it as a main motive.
The symptoms of the Ruin Virus goes as following: Intrusive thoughts, blacking out [typically engaging in violent activities], hysteria, irritability, verbal filter loss, and a complete loss in control of strong emotions [extremely dramatized, exaggerated, explosive, etc.]
However, Eclipse is having completely opposite symptoms.
Eclipse is seen to be irritable at the beginning of today’s episode [Eclipse gets CORRUPTED by the RUIN VIRUS in VRCHAT], and then his emotions subtly vanish. He has minimal reaction, zones out, loses a sense of awareness, but remains HIMSELF.
Roxanne in this episode becomes delirious. She becomes paranoid, senses heightened, having intrusive violent thoughts while she keeps a hold of her final-stage sanity - like we saw with Ruin’s Monty in older episodes such as Ruin’s HISTORY in VRCHAT [or the other one…it was a Nexus and Ruin episode where bro gets lobotomized…there’s only 2 of those episodes so it won’t be hard to find.]
Even before then, Roxanne was irritable, aware of everyone, and angered by such. Roxanne wasn’t herself, like she was stuck in a mindset focusing on nagging, nagging, nagging.
Ruin’s Monty was delirious, hyper vigilant, and extremely blackout violent. He didn’t become aware of what he was doing until it was done, though following the string of intrusive thoughts until he finally commits the act of killing people.
Ballora became irritable, aggressive, and violent. She isn’t necessarily black-out violent, but she’s clearly not herself. She became tunnel visioned, easy to distract and anger, and quick to violence.
Eclipse on the other hand becomes a complete statue - the OPPOSITE of what The Virus would do. It’s not the idea that Eclipse is just affected differently to quirkily contrast his already violent self, it’s a DIRECT RED FLAG.
Not to mention, Eclipse hasn’t LOST HIMSELF like everyone else. He is not lashing out, he is not using old anger, new irrational anger, or ANYTHING of the sort.
Eclipse is on ONE line of thought, the entire time. He does not become distracted, he does not huff out of anger - but desperation and realization. He continues to speak out his goal, what needs to be done, he does not give in to a mindset of violence and delirium. He is FULLY sane…while losing complete motor and thought control.
If The Virus was working PROPERLY, Eclipse would be the MOST FEARED to be infected, because he has the most experience in senseless violence. He would probably kill EVERYONE without a second thought. IF. THE. VIRUS. WORKED. PROPERLY.
But THE VIRUS. ISN’T. WORKING. ON ECLIPSE.
Think of it like a common sickness. You do not get symptoms from the virus itself, you get symptoms from the evidence that your body has RECOGNIZED a virus, and is ACTIVELY fighting it. Whether it is losing or winning is irrelevant.
When you cough, sneeze, vomit, or even HICCUP it is to REMOVE the infection that you are stuck with. It is a direct combat strategy your body puts into motion to expel your body of something foreign.
If you were to go into a COMA, it is because your body physically cannot heal with you being conscious at the same time. If you were, it’d worsen swelling and all sorts of problems. When you are advised to rest while you are sick, it is because it gives your body the chance to focus on fighting the infection. To continue to do things while your body is fighting will weaken your systems and often cause you disadvantages in the battle - which makes it worse.
The EXISTENCE of clogged Star Power inside of Eclipse - the DEFINITION of life ESSENCE - is ACTIVELY FIGHTING the Ruin Virus to see which can keep the body, considering Eclipse…in theory…may have possessed HIMSELF - DUE TO THAT RESURRECTION.
“One possession at a time, please!”
It is causing Eclipse to go into a stand-still comatose state while his body is fighting off the Virus as much as it can. Eclipse may not be ABLE to GET infected for all we know BECAUSE of this. We have yet to see if The Virus will eventually overcome The Star. If it does, will it turn him into a speechless zombie, or will it remain as Eclipse? Or, if The Star will overturn The Virus, Will it make him IMMUNE?
My personal thought is that he will be in a constant standing-coma.
Last thought off tonight’s topic.
“Eclipse” [dead name] and Ruin are the same person, but are metaphorically two different people. “Eclipse” is the body “Ruin” resides in. “Eclipse” is a dimensional code along with a chosen name, but above all, who Ruin wants to be perceived as. Eclipse was a curious animatronic who looked forward to life, but the birth of “Eclipse” was also the birth of “Ruin”.
Ruin is Eclipse’s GIVEN name - by his Creator. Not because of some DLC or separation from other characters [well it may used to be but not anymore…] but because Ruin is the name of The Virus that Eclipse is MADE of. This is what makes Eclipse DIFFERENT from other Eclipse’s, Sun’s, Moon’s, etc. He is a rare phenomenon in which Ruin becomes a world-ending catastrophe. He is a global disaster.
The Creator names Eclipse “Ruin” to highlight his existence as a world killer.
That would be like naming someone with Leukemia “Leuke” as a nickname.
Ruin’s virus was used to kill humanity in his world…and they succeeded.
“The virus memorized the path to my brain.” “It’s learning.” - Eclipse
I had to think... “is it the Virus that’s learning, or is it Ruin?”
Ruin rebuilt Eclipse. Ruin knows his anatomy, but doesn’t know the others.
Charlie didn’t attempt to “push!” the others…so the instant-regeneration is debatable now. It could be The Virus mutating…or…
The Virus is reconnecting with Ruin. Patient Zero. The Original Strain.
Have fun with that! Let me know your thoughts and theories! :]
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