Q: âWhen did you know that the way he (Castiel) loved Dean was a romantic love?â
Jensen: I donât think Dean really ever knew until the very end there. Um, uh, in fact I know he didnât, because I never played that. I would say that when Jensen found out, or when it was kind of discussed internally, itâs interesting because I think âromanticâ-Â
Jared: I think the point is that-Â
Jensen: I think the term âromanticâ is being used because there isnât a term that is necessarily-
Jared: Heâs junkless, you know?
Jensen: (jokingly) Yeah!Â
Jensen: I donât think lust is involved with romanticism-
Jared: I donât think itâs the point that they both have⊠human male bodiesâŠseemingly⊠and want to sleep with each other, I think the point is that like: you can love anything! Like, itâs a superpower. You can love somebod- Somebody could punch you in the face and you can say, like, âI love you. I forgive you.â Someone can give you a million bucks and you can go, âI love you.â It doesnât mean like- like- I say that with my friends, I say it with Ackles, like, âHey love you, man!â It doesnât mean, like, (said in a sleazy voice) âI wanna take you to a hotel room.â -
 âBecause, I love you!â And.. I⊠And so that was the- the- the point of the- relationship, story-wise, is that they could love each other- you know, Sam and Dean love each other. It wasnât a show about incest.Â
*scattered nervous chuckle*
Yâknow? So, uh, Cas and Dean can love each other, and itâs not a show aboutâ uhh, itâs not a show about heterosexuality OR nonbinary. Itâs a show about, like, hey! You can choose to live your life with love. Uhm, not: âHey, this means they wanna make out!â Itâs Not about that. Itâs about, I can⊠tell⊠my son, âI love you.â And itâs not that I want to do something to or with my son. (yikes) I just love my son. My daughter (I) can say the same thing. So that- that- wasnât- Iâm sorry, that wasnât The Point? Of? That? Scene? Uhmmm. The point was: you are free to love whoever you want. You can be heterosexual and love whoever you want, you can be.. queer and love whoever you want. You can be⊠any part of the lgbtqia love whoever the fuck you want. Sorry for my cursing.
 It doesnât mean you want to do something to them or with them. So hopefully, Supernatural in itâs 327 episodes helped to have people love those around them.
Jensen: (in agreement) I think thatâs really what was-
 Iâll just piggyback on what he said- *more applause* Yeah! Uhm.*more applause* That the- the- love that Cas had, is..is heavenly. It was- you know, heâs an angel. So heâs able to, I think, love on a level- on a plane that human emotion doesnât necessarily comprehend. Uhm. And I think we might default to making it uh, a romantic or a sexual love. When, I think, the way that I kind of interpreted itâAND this is the great thing about this show and I think the relationships that some of these characters have: is that theyâre open for interpretation! if you find identity in a character because of- because of whatever reason: fantastic! Great! If that encourages you to be a better person or love someone a little harder or forgive someone for something then, fantastic!. Thatâs- thatâs- I think thatâs one of the beautiful things about doing what we do, is we get to encourage people on a variety of levels.
Jared: *noise of agreement*
Jensen: And I think Casâ love, isnât- isnât identified by humans, necessarily. It was a love that superseded that. So We try to find words that describe that, and I just donât think There Are Words
Jared: Yeah. (addressing audience) But thank you Iâm glad that yâall connected with it!
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