Titles and Classes and Aspects, oh my!

I'll help with anything homestuck related, specifically classpect related, Just ask! (Not taking Sessions right now) ASKBOX: Open maybe? Idk the blog is super dead but I might get inspired who knows.

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Hey there! I noticed how helpful you guys have been, and I was wondering if you could help me out a little as well! I've been working on a fantroll, and her classpect is Witch of Time. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around what exactly that entails. And I was also wondering if having both the space and time players on derse makes any difference than having space on prospit and time on derse as it is in canon.

Wow this blog is super dead! But guess what? I’m inspired enough, so I’ll answer your ask anyways. The Witch of time, huh… A Witch Changes or changes with their aspect, Creating or changing things. Witches are like, super powerful as well. While time is literal time, so they’ll have the ability to time travel. 

So a Witch of Time would change or create time itself. Or, you could interpret it as changing or creating using time. 

As I said, witches are an insanely powerful class, and it ever so happens that time is a particularly powerful aspect. Looking at it literally, a Witch of Time can change time itself: Does that allow for actual changes in the alpha timeline without creating a doomed timeline, with almost John- like powers? Perhaps! But the witch wouldn’t know everything, so even if you decide they _do_ have that sort of power, they can very easily use it to royally screw up everything and doom the timeline. 

Taking it another direction, the Witch of Time could also have the ability to _create_ time, adding seconds or minutes for themself or potentially those around them as well, effectively freezing time for the enemy and creating time in-between what we see on the clocks. That would be pretty cool.

Now I wouldn’t give your witch both of those powers, lets be fair, (Though I suppose I can’t stop you) but which one you choose should depend on your character and what direction you want to take their character. The first one could easily be recepie for disaster, so if you want them to mess stuff up, id go with that. The second one is much more controllable. Up to you! 

As for your second question, canonically, space players dream on prospit, and awaken there before the game even starts. From my perspective, having them both on the same moon doesn’t really make a difference, but I at least take for “fact” that Space players awake early and on Prospit. If you want to have your space player on Derse, I suppose no one is stopping you, and, honestly, I don’t see why it would cause any sort of problem, so long as there is still a somewhat even derse/prospit split, you should be fine. 

But yes, A Witch of space is totally cool and uber powerful. I forgot how fun these are! Maybe I should start this thing back up again?

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This blog is so dead i’m so sorry

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Would you analyze the Knight of Void, please?

Knight, Active, is “one who defends with their aspect/defends their aspect.” Knights have powerful combat abilities, and are often living up to their Class by protecting those who cannot protect themselves. Knights may also provide defense FOR their aspect, serving as protectors of their aspect and preventing the destruction of said aspect.

Void is nothingness. Actually, it’s more than nothingness. It’s the lack of existence, as well as the lack of knowledge. Void may be considered the Antithesis to Light and/or Space.  Void players might also have a strong connection to the Outer Ring and the Dark Gods. Every player of void has some sort of “lack” in their lives. What that “lack” is varies from person to person. However, a constant for all Void players is the side effect of being obfuscated within their existence. Thus, players of Void frequently find themselves feeling lonely.

A Knight of Void would defend others with Void, or defend Void. When defending with Void, they would be able to hide their allies from view, taking advantage of their enemies' blind spots. Remember, obfuscation is a Void player’s specialty. When defending Void, this Knight may be a thrall of the Dark Gods in the outer ring, doing whatever they wish and always looking out for their best interest.

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What class is most likely to hate their class? For example, a passive class wanting to be an active, heroic class, etc? Also, what classpects are inclined to dislike their classpect? Thank you so much, and I hope you have a great day. <3

Well, I think it’s impossible for one to hate their Class. One’s God Tier is based around the player themselves. This doesn't mean a Passive player couldn't play in a Active role on the battlefield, it would mean they’re more likely to act how their Class is designed. So with that in mind, there’s no really no way to dislike your Classpect. It is literally who you are inside.

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Hi there, if you’ve had session asks that you’ve sent in (please dont send any in right now), they are being answered! It takes time to work on sessions, and the bigger they are the longer it takes. now that there’s two mods (I’m new~) they should be answered sooner!

Thank you for your patience, and we are working on them. It just takes time since both mods have school to deal with.

~Ivy

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Can you explain Knight Of Light?

Not a problem!

Knight is an Active class, and they defend with their Aspect or defend their Aspect. Knights are very powerful in combat, and they protect those who cannot protect themselves (living up to their Class name). They also provide defense for their Aspect, protecting it and stopping it from being destroyed (like how Dave protects Time)

Light is literally Riches, Luck and Knowledge.

So that means a Knight of Light would protect any Knowledge that they think/know is important to the sessions success. A Knight of Light (generally) believes in ‘Knowledge is power’ and they know how to use it to it’s full potential. They would also be able to use what grist they collect very wisely, so that they always have it. And when they need to use it, they can always make very powerful weapons.A Knight of Light and a Thief of Light  would be a damn close match in the luck department. They would prevent bad luck, and help others and themselves be ‘lucky enough’ to be in the right place at the right time, so they could protect the other players (and any being necessary to the survival of the session).

I hope this helped, and please ask if you need any clarification!

~(new mod) Ivy

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2 questions, if I may ask: First, would a Knight of Mind and Seer of Heart be good moirails? Second, would the Prince of Breath and Maid of Blood be good moirails as well? Thanks!

A Knight of Mind and a Seer of heart, hmmm? Both of those are very interesting classpects, and I am in fact having trouble imagining how they would feel about each other. Both of those, to me, seem like very empathetic classpects; the Seer understanding the hearts of others, and the Knight protecting the minds of others. I feel like, regardless of whether it’s in a quadrant or not, their relationship would be complicated.

Secondly, the Prince of Breath and a Maid of Blood. The Prince of Breath likely needs a moirail, and the Maid would definitely see that. (I have this scene that just popped into my head of the maid trying every possible ship in their head and none of the working until they realize- almost by accident- it’s them. they are the Moirail the Prince needs. But you can just ignore that) I feel like this relationship could definitely work. I also feel as if this relationship could easily fall apart- it doesn’t feel too stable. But I believe in them. They can work it out.

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In a session with a Seer of Life, a Sylph of Breath, a Witch of Rage, and a Knight of Hope, who would be the leader. Would this session be somewhat successful?

Not in the slightest! It lacks both a Space AND a Time player! this session would be void and have zero chance of success. I’m sorry but that’s kinda the rules, and this one’s pretty unmaneuverable. :/

I will, however look at your titles you got there a little bit.

A seer knows/sees/understands their aspect and generally just knows things, while life is literal life force/ lifespan and the like. So A seer of time Sees Life. This could be interpreted as understanding literal life, and having a great medical knowledge or great healing abilities or something similar, Be able to see Life as in lifespan, or just understand “life” taken figuratively.

I looked a bit more in depth about a sylph of breath when I first made this blog. go ahead and take a look at it HERE

A Witch Changes or changes with their aspect. Rage is all about emotion and Power and energy and just FEELING things. So a witch of rage would Change rage… That doesn’t sound like it makes alot of sense but let’s just look at it less by definition and say that witches are damn powerful and rage is also very powerful so this player is going to be insanely strong and if they go astray your session is even more screwed than it already is and it’s already unsalvageable. If the Witch can focus the rage and use it for good, they would be the best fighter and a great help to the team. However, if they just let the rage go free and spill out- let it control them… no good can come of that.

A knight protects or protects with their aspect and Hope is… well I’d call it less “hope” and more “faith”. Not necessarily religious faith, although it could be, but just faith in something, someone, themselves, anything. Although in this, knight of hope works better with just hope. A knight of hope will kinda just do what it sounds like: Protect hope. This sounds like a good thing, and it is, but remember that knights tend to not have enough of, lose, or just aren’t able to protect their aspect. So as much as this knight may try, i feel like the hope will either slip away from them, or slip away from everyone else but them.

Out of these I would probably say the Knight would be the leader. Knights tend to make good leaders, and this one would take the initiative and try to keep the whole group positive, even when it becomes evident that this session is going to fail.

Other than your complete lack of a Space or time player, I do have to say your session is nicely diverse in personalities and roles in the game.

Also, really sorry this took so long, I had to postpone it due to homework and then I kinda… forgot about it for a while… But uh, here you go!

Hope this helped you some.

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Do you think there is a way to take two sessions and try to combine them like the trolls and beta kids? Like if you had two different sessions because you didn't want overlapping players?

Hm… that’s an interesting question. To be honest, I don’t know a lot about this particular topic, but I’ll see what type of insight I can give.

My immediate thought is about how the alpha and beta kids sessions are supposed to merge with each other, but I’m not certain how that works… (I tried to look it up, or at least find the page, but to no avail) However, I don’t see a problem with merging sessions. I would surely suggest finding more in-comic information on how exactly, but I say go ahead.

Sorry I couldn’t be of more help! 

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Hello! Do you know how a session with a Mage of space, knight of heart, heir of time, and sylph of time would work out?(yes there are two time players and I apologize.

Hmmm, Two time players would most likely doom your session. But I’ll still analyze it anyway, see what we can discover about it.

A Mage is aware of their aspect and it’s influence, but are also affected negatively by their aspect, while Space is literal Space, like mass, density, size, shape, and all that sort of stuff. So a Mage of Space Understands Space, and the influence it has, but is negatively affected by space. Mages tend to be very powerful players, and Space is a very strong aspect. The Mage of Space would be a Very powerful player, and a very good space player, in theory. To the point where, to balance out their power, things will keep going wrong. Just imagine the universe is trying to trip them up. 

A Knight defends with/ defends their aspect. Heart could be well described as “Soul”. It’s feelings, emotions and love.  So a Knight of Heart would protect people’s hearts. As you would probably assume, Knights tend to be very protective of their friends, and this Knight would be especially versed in the affairs of the heart. You hurt one of their friend’s feelings, insult them, or let alone break their heart, this Knight will be pissed. However, Knights tend to lose their aspect, not be able to protect it. Whether it be not being able to prevent the heartbreak of the one they care about most, or simply failing in affairs of their own heart is up to you.

Now the two time players.

 An Heir provides their aspect or is provided with their aspect, And Time is literal time, so the time player will have the ability to time travel.

So an heir provides time or is provided with time. The heir of time would probably never really “figure out” how to use their time travel properly, like, they can control it, but don’t ask them how or why what they’re doing works or why it needs to be done. It just kinda… happens.

A Sylph changes or fixes through their aspect, And (again) Time is literal time, time travel, you know the deal. But A sylph is one of the best time players you can have because they can heal time. Fix what has been broken, maybe even to the point of- no, your session would probably still be doomed, but man, this character is giving you a ray of hope.

 Both of your time players are actually pretty good time players. (Your sylph is an amazing time player) But still, with two time traveling players, they will overlap and mess each other up and that whole thing will be very very confusing. It will inevitably all fall apart, no matter how hard the Sylph tries to fix it.

 Your space player is a good one, yet still an unstable one. They have a good Knight to help them out, though. If this was your only problem, I would say your session would still go fine, barring any unforeseen difficulties, but with your two time players, the session would still be doomed.

 At first glance, your session is doomed. You look harder, and it appears like you have a chance. A tough, fighting chance, your players are a pretty good individuals, and they will all try so hard to make the session be successful, but in the end, it just won’t work. It would still be a very fun session to watch though, the one’s you thought would fail just almost made it.

EDIT- I actually don’t think that two players of the same class or aspect would always doom your session. It would certainly lower your odds, but with good players, you may be able to overcome it. Of course, this depends on what is repeated. having two time or space players… that’s basically impossible to overcome in my opinion. 

I hope this helped you!

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What exactly does a Mage of Life do? and does it change deepening on gender?

A Mage is aware of their aspect and it’s influence, but are affected negatively by their aspect. While life is again literal- life force, life span, life as in the opposite of death. But of course, this could also be taken in a more figurative way.

So a Mage of LIfe is aware of Life and it’s influence, but are negatively influenced by Life. A possible way this could manifest is being able to see the lifespan of people- being able to tell when they will die. Depending how far in the game/ how strong you want these powers to be/ anything, this could manifest as visions of deaths, some sort of date/time sence of the deaths, or even just “something bad is going to happen to whomever. (or a million other ways you could think of) However, the tragedy of this mage is that they can do absolutely nothing to prevent these deaths, having an understanding of the lifespan but not being able to lengthen it. Other than just lifespan, they could be able to see other aspects of “Life” in a similar way, although i’m not certain why or how exactly that could/ would/ should work. Just something to think about.

Many life players have some sort of healing or resurrection powers, but I don’t think the mage of life would. it would surely not be a stretch to give them an interest and expansive knowledge of a medical field.

As I’m writing this, I’m seeing another interpretation: affected negatively by life itself, which could manifest as some medical problem they can’t control or cure.

As far as gender goes, the manifestation of any title is more reflective on the personality of the individual then the gender. Personally, I don’t think gender matters hardly at all in the realm on classpects. Some classpects have more “masculine” or more “feminine” connotations, but who cares about gender roles? And I don’t really care about gendered classes either. You want to be a male witch or a female prince? Go for it.

Now, I want you to go look at some other people’s interpretations of this classpect. They’ll probably be vastly different from mine. (especially with this one) Take those into account to.

Hope this was helpful!

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This seems like it fits here. Pretty accurate tbh.

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Hey, could you explain a human Maid of Doom (female) and their role in a normal session that has no interferences? Also would a Sylph of Time (human male) be a good matesprit?

A maid maintains their aspect, prepares others and keeps the balance.

Doom symbolizes destruction and death as well as law and judgment and the inevitability of things.

So a maid of doom would maintain doom, prepare others for doom, or keeps the balance between doom and not doom.

I’m not certain what you mean by a session that has no interferences, but doom would probably be looming over the session for this maid to be here.

A few ways you can take this: The maid maintains doom as in keeps it in check. There is some fault, some doom looming over the session and the Maid keeps it (or tries to, at least) from destroying the session. Or, they could think that doom is inevitable, and begin preparing others for the doom (that may or may not actually be descending on the session), leading to some odd, probably destructive decisions on the maid’s part, attempting to make the eventual doom easier for their teammates.

Doom players tend to have some misfortune in their lives, so be warned of that, but feel free to interpret it as you wish. (The captors are our doom players)

Lastly, For the Sylph of Time and the Maid of Doom, I don’t see any problems with the relationship!

(By the way, the sylph of time is a great player to have because they heal time, fixing whatever somebody else screwed up.)

Thanks for asking and I hope this helped!

(I would have answered sooner, but when I typed the whole thing up, i highlighted it all to copy it and ended up deleting it -with no undo button- and I didn’t feel motivated to type it up again until now.)

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Hi. Um, could you describe a page of heart and their likely personality and role in the game? Thank you in advance

Hello!

Of course I can, that’s what I’m here for!

Let’s see. A Page provides their aspect to those who require it, but not until the very end. For the sake of your session, you should hope the Page’s powers aren’t needed, but if they are the page will be a very powerful player. Pages are a passive class, and usually tend to be soft spoken or naive, someone who you would look at and say “Well, they are really nice, but kinda a doormat.”

Heart could be well described as “Soul”. It’s feelings, emotions and love. Heart players feel. Alot. And there’s not much they can do about it, even if feeling is the last thing they want to do. They are a very emotional player, and their ups and downs will be bigger than most peoples.

So the Page of Heart would provide Heart to those who require it. That’s… really sweet. The Page of Heart would be very sweet. If the session is nearing endgame, and tensions are strained, and everything seems to be falling apart, this player will be the one who saves everybody from falling, from failing. This is a truly beautiful player with a beautiful personality.

If there is one thing they lack, it’s confidence. They don’t have the confidence to do what they need to do, they just don’t think that they would be able to do it.

This Page cares about others and doesn’t want to see them sad, or heartbroken, or anything other than happy. They would really feed off of the emotions of others. If others around them were sad, they wouldn’t be able to be happy. If others around them were angry, they would just feel tiny, even if they weren’t mad at the Page. They wouldn’t want to be around negative emotions, because they would really absorb them. At the same time, though, that means they would absorb positive emotions as well. They are the type of person who would love to listen to you talk about something you care about, even if they don’t. Because you care about it, and you’re excited, and they can’t help but be happy if you are. Another person genuinely laughing will brighten the Page’s day by 100% because they can just feel your happiness.

Their role in the session would definitely be to keep everyone together emotionally, but with pages, they will not be needed until the end, if they are needed at all. Their personal quest throughout the game would be to find the confidence to be able to do that. the page would see a relationship that will soon turn sour and be dying inside knowing how terrible it will be, but not have the courage to say anything about it. And when it doesn’t work -just as they predicted, because they are quite good at knowing these things- The Page would just be crushed as they watch it crumble, hating that they didn’t say anything when they saw it coming.

People will find it hard to dislike them, but somebody is bound to- probably somebody who tends to dislike people who seem small, but the Page won’t be able to deal with it. They would think they are doing something wrong, and get mad at themselves, when really it’s not their fault. So they would try to find somebody else who is happy and try to ignore any bad feelings, because if there is one thing they hate, it’s sadness, or anger, or bad emotions.

 Oh my god I need to write this character, they are developing in my mind, I have a new OC, it’s happening…

Thinking about this, I really wrote this geared towards a human character. If yours happens to be a troll, remember the standards trolls need to uphold.

*Please remember I am one opinion and my word is not law. All of this kinda stuff is totally open to interpretation.*

Hope I helped!

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Would a Mage of Light and Seer of Void work well together in a session? And would be best morails or possible matesprite (Both Derse, Male) (Troll Mage) and (Human Seer)

First off, it’s matesprit not matesprite, and Moirails.

Now, a Mage is aware of their aspect and it’s influence, but are affected negatively by their aspect. And Light usually represents riches, luck, and knowledge, or just mean Light. So a Mage of Light is aware of Light’s influence, but is affected negatively by it.

A Seer knows/sees/understands aspect and generally just knows things, while Void is literal nothing. So the Seer of Void then knows… nothing. I really like this title for all the symbolic reasons.

Well, not certain how a human and a troll could be in a session together, but whatever. I don’t see them as having a problem working together, but I also don’t see them as working together brilliantly, if you know what I mean. But I’m not so sure about these two. I see these two being very similar people. I don’t see them as different enough to be morials, because morials need to balance each other out. As matesprits, though, people can be similar and it would work.

If you told me a bit about their personalities, I feel as if I could help you more.

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How would a team work with a Knight of Light and a Prince of Void, Thanks ^v^ (Sorry if I worded this strangely by the way)

Do you mean how well would they work together? 

Well a Knight is an active class that defends with/ defends their aspect. They will either protect others who cannot protect themselves using their aspect or prevent their aspect from destruction and Light represents riches, luck and knowledge. So a Knight of Light would use their own riches/ luck/ knowledge to protect others or protect the essence of it themselves. Of course, you could take it literally, protecting Light itself, which in this cace I kinda like, especially with the Prince of Void over there. 

A Prince is another active class that destroys with/ destroys aspect. Void is literal nothingness, so a prince of nothing would destroy nothing. Or, they could destroy with nothing. That is a very interesting title. (In my mind this character is all empty threats and perceived strength, but you can take it in a thousand different directions and it’d still work) 

I started thinking of these guys in a way that reflected their titles. I try to never think of titles literally. but this time, it is for the best. When I started thinking of them The Knight Protects the Light, while the Prince destroys the dark. Regardless of the characters individual personalities or motives, which may be conflicting- and I think they would be- these two would eventually complete the same goal. Their way of getting to it would differ, and they may not get along, but in the end, I think that they would make a good team, regardless of weather they did in the middle.

I hope that answered your question. If it didn’t, feel free to ask again. :)

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Could you help me my session is a Knight of Space, Heir of Time, Sylph of Life, Theif of Mind, Rouge of Breath, Prince of Doom, Seer of Void, Mage of Light, Maid of Blood.(Who would be the best leader?, what problems would my team face

Of course! 

Knight of space defends with space/ defends space.

Knights typically have cool combat powers and space is a really powerful aspect so THIS PLAYER WILL KICK ASS ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Sorry. (Not sorry) Knights usually help the space player with the frog breeding, but your knight is the space player, so hope they are good at it.

 An Heir provides/ is provided with aspect.

And Time is literal time, so the time player will have the ability to time travel.

So an heir provides time / provided with time. Pretty cool. The heir of time would never really “figure out” how to use their time travel properly, like, they can control it, but don’t ask them how or why what they’re doing works or why it needs to be done. It just kinda… happens.

 A Sylph changes or fixes through their aspect,

While life is again literal- life force, life span, life as in the opposite of death. But it can be taken in a more figurative way as in bringing “life” to a place.

So a Sylph of Life would change or fix Life, so as a healing class, if they god tier, healing will certainly be a power, and it may even surface a bit before that. Definitely passive, they would do a great job of fixing what’s broken.

 A Thief steals their aspect from others and uses it to their own gain.

Mind is thought process, logic, and decisions- Mind players usually make the right ones.

So a Thief of mind steals mind from others and uses it to help themself. Eek. Highly manipulative player, as thieves tend to be, and if their are any players whose mind is already fighting against themself… the thief will not help them. I have worries about this thief, but they would still be manageable. Not too big of a threat to the session as a whole. They would most likely pick a single person and steal their mind. Take it in what sense thou wilt.

A Rouge steals aspect and gives it to others.

Breath is either freedom, direction and motivation or the lack thereof.

A Rogue of Breath steals breath for other’s benefit. Like the thief, they would be highly manipulative, but in a very different way. The rogue would steal motivation from their enemies, discouraging them from doing what they are doing bad. But they boost the motivation and direction of their own team. They would really keep the team together.

 A Prince destroys aspect/ destroys through aspect.

Doom symbolises destruction and death as well as law and judgment.  Is all about law and judgement and the inevitability of things.

People think princes are always bad. But look at this- destroys doom. Prevents destruction and somehow fixes something that was supposed to be inevitable. Of course, they could also destroy with doom, casting a wave of destruction and death over the session. They probably walk a very thin line between the two. Watch out for this one.

 A Seer knows/sees/understands aspect and generally just knows things.

Void is nothing. The lack of existence and matter. Void players usually lack something in their lives and are frequently lonely. They usually have a strong connection to the outer ring, but thats a whole nother topic.

This one can be interpreted a few ways. You could literally say “they know nothing and are just an idiot” but I'd advise against that. There is also the “I thought I knew everything. I thought i had it under control. But… I didn’t. I know nothing. I failed.” I like that one. Or the Seer could have an extensive knowledge of nothing, like nothing as a concept. You can very well make that work if you think hard enough. Watch out for this player in a subtle way. They could cause problems if they are tipped over the edge, but I wouldn’t necessarily WORRY about it…

 A Mage is aware of their aspect’s influence, but are affected negatively by their aspect.

Light symbolizes riches, luck, and knowledge.

So the mage of light understands things, they know why something happens or how to do that thing, but when it comes down to it, they just… cant. Or at least, thats how I see it. I don’t really see it.

 A Maid maintains their aspect, prepare others and maintain balance.

Blood represents the bonds, relationships and connections between people.

A maid of blood will maintain the bonds between people. Essentially, they would be the best auspistice ever. And if these are humans, they could still play that role. They set people up, and break people apart, keep relationships healthy, and will be the one everyone goes to to rant about relationship problems. You wanna know who’s dating who? Ask this Maid.

 As for a leader… It’s not obvious. Lets see…

The Rouge of Breath could be a leader. I see them as more the glue that holds the team together instead of the by-name leader of the session, but with no other obvious choice, they might be it. They would be a good leader, somebody people like.

The Seer could be a leader, and be a fairly decent one, up until the very end, when they cannot see the right answer and everything falls apart. So, if you want the session to look hopeful and then fail…

The Thief might take power. They would certainly want it and could easily get it. They would be a strong leader, which might just be what this session needs. But they aren’t a kind leader. Few would really like them. They would certainly respect them, but this is the type of leader who either changes a nation for the better in the long run despite some discontent in the present, or is disliked and overthrown (or attempted to be, but the rebellion is crushed) in a bloody coup d’etat.

 Without such an obvious leader, that could cause a problem. Nobody would fall perfectly into the roll, and so that could cause some problems.

The knight usually helps the Space player with the frog breeding, but since the Knight IS the Space player… its nothing terrible, just makes it a bit more difficult for them.

You have a few POTENTIALLY unstable characters, but they are all manageable. Probably. Be careful.

 The session would go fine, probably. There is problems to face, but nothing unmanageable. It should succeed, barring any unforeseen difficulties.

 Hope this helped. Have a great day!