I choose health.

[novakspector]

“Intuitive eating” where you “listen to your body and eat whenever you feel hungry” is some of the worst advice ever. If you live in a modern, industrialized, Western country you’re surrounded by an abundance of cheap and constantly available food. Because of this, your body has been trained from a young age to think it’s starving to death whenever you haven’t eaten in 2-3 hours. “Intuitive eating” is the problem, not the solution. You should stop listening to your fat, overfed body entirely. You’re not going to starve if you eat 3 regular meals with sensible portions, at set times.

[frofitness]

[klickiekat]

This “slow metabolism” is bullshit. The organs and workings of the human body is not unique like your face. Things work the same from human to human. Where you hold fat can be different from person to person but not how much you can eat to gain or lose weight based on your height and activity level. Stop believing you eat 600 calories and you gain 3kg from it. Go to a math class and nutrition class because you need the education.

[greenmain]

Since you’re the one who mentioned it, tell us about your medical education background.

[klickiekat]

Lol I never said ever that i have a background in medical education. If you think that a nutrition class is a medical education then you obviously need more education then what I am telling you to get.

[dashaibo]

You don’t need to be an aeroengineer to know when a plane is crashing.

[mr-spilled-tea]

Hello I am someone who is genetically predisposed to be overweight and has a slow metabolism. Lol

[dashaibo]

No one is genetically predisposed to being overweight. That is a complete myth. You may have a lower BMR than other people, but A) it’s likely in a 100-200 calorie range, B) tough shit, you got an unlucky dice roll and have to eat less to stay at a healthy weight than most people.

I’m also losing weight and it IS just CICO, like it or not. You have to take responsibility for yourself.

[antinb-deactivated20181027]

^

[triggerwarned]

It is literally impossible to get fat if you eat the right amount and exercise enough

[larpsandtherealgirl]

Larps… My brain is dead… I cannot believe this is something I had to read lmao.

[submission]

Imagine participating in the level of mental gymnastics necessary to get to this point in your life without ever concluding that perhaps it would just be easier to lose some weight than to continue coping via cat discourse lmao

[coveberry]

Lack of exercise, boredom, overfeeding, and weight gain are all far, far more likely causes of lethargy in cats (and other pets) than dieting + nebulous and hard-to-verify genetic disorders.

[ethicalbodypolitician]

Yeah that 95% diet failure stat is bullshit

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/25/health/95-regain-lost-weight-or-do-they.html

[ethicalbodypolitician]

Let’s talk about Diets

Specifically fad diets, like Keto, Atkins, paleo, and all the rest.

There is no magic in them. They aren’t a weight loss hack. There is no miracle diet. It is all CiCo.

That being said however,

They can help you stay motivated. Plain calorie counting can get really monotonous really fast, so if you add in another element, like no carbs, it’s a lot more engaging.

It’s a lot more interesting, and easier, for a lot of people to eat a high protein, low carb diet between 12pm and 8pm, or to only drink smoothies two days a week, or to go vegan, than to just calorie count.

Without counting, diets can be a lot less restrictive feeling and a lot more like an experiment. Because starting a new diet can be really fun. Going to the grocery store and getting what you need, making a meal plan, finding other people online doing what you’re doing.

And it works, as long as you have an idea of the calories you’re taking in. 2500 calories of low sugar, vegan food is still 2500 calories. So if you aren’t losing weight, maybe keep a count for a few days to see where you need to be.

And have fun. There are no real rules to this except burn more than you eat and try to get your vitamins.

[motivation-and-fitness]

Surprisingly, not everyone will be supportive of your healthy journey.

You’d think people would be like “Oh someone I care about is getting healthier. That’s great!” But that’s not always how people think.

They might say you’re “obsessed.” Obsessed with the gym or what you eat, when in reality you’re just going to the gym 4 times a week and making healthier choices. 

Becoming healthier is hard. If it was easy, we would all be incredibly healthy and live to be 150. If it was easy, it wouldn’t be such a journey - it would be like a switch you can turn on and off. If it was easy, people wouldn’t feel jealous or threatened by it.

Whenever you have your doubts, whenever your friends don’t support you, remember why you started. Remember where you’re going.

[thisistherealthinprivilege]

Reminder that most people highly underestimate or overestimate their calorie intake

[healthforpositivebodies]

Eat healthy foods because you want to nourish your body, not because you want to change the way it looks.

Move your body because you want to keep it strong and healthy, not to change its shape.

Love your body fiercely, and let that love be what drives you to treat yourself with kindness.

[tan-tattooed-and-toning]

Or do it for whatever reason. Eating healthy and being active are good for you regardless of the reason. So if you’re doing it because healthy food taste great and your yoga class is the most fun thing you do all week, great! If you do it because you want to feel better, great! And if you do it because you want to look better, still great! Do it for whatever reason.

[flyteestudio]

the four golden rules of a healthy lifestyle.

[coveberry]

What is the meaning of your url? I always think of Cabot Cove from Murder She Wrote lol

Haha, I originally tried to make my url “cloudberry,” which is a type of berry similar to a raspberry, but it was taken. “Cove” was just the next thing that popped into my head, so I went with it.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

[justfatpeoplethings]

Fat people always talk about how their blood tests are “perfect” and how every time they go to the doctor they’re told that their bloods are “perfect”... but if you’re so healthy then why do you keep going to the doctor multiple times a year lmao 🤣

[nomnivore1]

I don’t really have a horse in this race but like… Insurance usually requires regular visits? Do you not go to your doctor regularly???

[fatlogicversusreality]

No. I don’t know anyone with health insurance who needs regular visits to the doctor. You don’t ever need to go to the doctor at all unless you want to and make an appointment.

The ironic part of what anon is saying is that HAES activists often claim they’re healthy, despite visiting the doctor 5+ times a year to confirm this fact… It doesn’t even cross most people’s minds that a *yearly* checkup would be a good idea, because most people aren’t morbidly obese, impeded by their weight, or worried their health is effected by unhealthy eating habits.

[coveberry]

Just chiming in to agree. Never have I ever, at least here in the U.S., heard of a health insurance company requiring regular doctor's visits. In fact, I understand that they actually like it if you don't go to the doctor at all, because then they get to keep collecting your premiums without ever having to pay out anything in return.

[ethicalbodypolitician]

A response

To fat activists who are like: “why do you care about the bodies of strangers online?” And try to frame the situation with me being an obsessive loser.

Answer? I don’t. I don’t care if you die because I wouldn’t even know. I have no emotional investment in your life and you have none in mine, that’s how internet communities are. It’s not a bad thing, it’s totally reasonable.

What I do care about is fatlogic becoming so widespread that it affects people who don’t know any better.

I don’t care about your choices or your body but I do care that 13 year olds are being told they can’t do anything about being overweight and they should just accept it.

Stop lying to innocent people. You will be a part of the reason if something happens to them.

Love yourself, yes.

Find your beauty and show it, yes.

But don’t trust people online who tell you portion control is an eating disorder and you need 3000 calories a day. Like I said, they don’t care about you.

[fatlogicversusreality]

No. People who have problems with the fat acceptance movement are tired of rampant misinformation and the continued support and encouragement of disordered eating.

Health is objective. A healthy relationship is food is one where you don’t binge, continue eating despite physical fullness, or eat an extreme excess of food to the point of obesity. A life goal of being obese is not healthy, safe, or productive. A healthy concept of potion size is equivalent to your body’s maintenance of a healthy BMI range. Eating yourself to the point of obesity, to no one, is living their best life. Living your best life means overcoming disordered eating and putting effort into your physical health in the best ways you can- taking care of your body and being mindful of the things you decide to fuel it with.

You can deny these facts from any direction you want, you are still wrong. You are projecting your own dangerous, disordered eating habits and patterns onto other people, and fat acceptance is about encouraging others to do the same.

[theory-0f-everything]

[lephonsey]

@elsegno

[elsegno]

[fitandproblematic]

And?

They don’t want people to lose weight, and they don’t want anyone to maintain their weight either lmao. 

[thank-you-based-bear]

No one can convince me that fat activists aren’t giant toddlers sticking fingers in their ears all year long. So what if some people get their shit together and have things in control? They’re quick to tell us what they’re doing with their body is none of our business and yet they can’t practice what they preach.