I just remembered a post I saw sometime ago about how john gets more hate from the fandom for things he supposedly did to dean (that have no real basis in canon) than for things he canonically did to sam and yeah, I agree 100%, but it also made me think about something else: the way the fandom views bobby
the majority of the fandom glorifies bobby as this Perfect Parental Figure, who’s so much better than john and deserves the boys much more than john and would punch john for the way he treated the boys. even tho…
- in 4x20 and 4x21, he helps dean trick sam and force him into an awful torture-detox, acknowledges that they were killing him and yet does nothing to actively stop it and when sam was escaping, he even tries to take him back inside
- in 5x20, he tells sam that he’s not strong enough to beat lucifer and that he can’t control himself (where tf did that even come from. literally in that exact same episode, he stopped himself from killing his almost-fiancée’s murderer, but sure, he can’t control himself)
- in 5x21, he says to dean that sam is full of character defects and has a ~~darkness~~ in him or whatever (like WHERE is this darkness he’s supposed to have???)
- again in 5x21, he suddenly decides than sam can beat the devil and says that to dean. why on earth couldn’t he say that to sam (preferably leaving out the character defects and darkness bullshit) who spent two seasons getting beaten down by everyone and their mom and probably needed a little appreciation and encouragement???
- in 6x06, he tells dean that he’s his favourite
- in 7x02, sam tell him and dean that he’s full-on hallucinating lucifer, that he can’t tell what’s real and what’s not and that he thinks he’s still in the cage and bobby basically goes “yikes! anyway I’m done with shit lol I’m going back to work” and then proceeds to ask dean how dean is dealing with sam’s trauma like wtf
- in 8x19, sam rescues his ungrateful ass from hell and he thanks him by berating him for following his agreement with dean (an agreement he taught them) and not looking for him when he was in purgatory and settling down, even tho that’s exactly what he wanted for dean in 6x01
- this isn’t something he did to sam per se, but I think it says a lot about how he views him: in 5x21, he acts all ~~surprised~~ when he sees sam rushing in and out of the warehouse saving people, as if it’s something new for sam and not something he does literally everyday. as if just one season ago, sam’s primary motivation for drinking demon blood wasn’t to SAVE PEOPLE by exorcising demons without harming the host AND by trying to stop the apocalypse
I’m sure there’s more but these are the first things that come to mind (side note: I’ve seen people say that bobby’s bias against sam is understandable because soulless!sam tried to kill him, but that doesn’t really hold since only two of the things I’ve mentioned happened after 6x11)
in conclusion, bobby is fucking awful to sam and barely tolerates him and yet… since none of these actions are directed towards dean, then who care! he’s the best dad the boys could’ve asked for!!!!!!!!! even tho I’m willing to bet that if he did to dean any of the shit he did to sam, he’d be hated by the entire fandom
my point is: john getting more hate for invented things he supposedly did to dean than for things he canonically did to sam and bobby being glorified despite being awful to sam and despite his blatant favouritism towards dean are two sides of the same coin
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