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#the makeout that was promised
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Remember back in July & August 2017 when Jon & Daenerys finally met & actually fell in love? & everyone was happy anticipating a marriage & boat baby, if not ruling Westeros together? Those were good times. Well they were nice while they lasted.
Oh anon, those were the days, werenât they? But! We really shouldâve known better!
After all, Jon and Daenerys had nothing in common!
(credit to @midqueenallyâ)
There was no reason to ever think they might marryâŚ
There was no reason to think they might have children!
And itâs not like HBO advertised or promoted the pairing with misleading âDragon and the Wolfâ sigilsâŚ
We were given no reason to believe Jon and Daenerys were the union of ice and fire. There was barely any emphasis put on their pairing at all!
Lastly? Itâs not like we had the writers personally assuring us that Dany wasnât insane or sadistic like her father.
Oh⌠wait a secondâŚ
He speaketh only truth.
@i-am-thesenate asked: Clois or Jonerys?
Send me two ships and Iâll tell you which one I like better
Dax asked emilia if they were really implying that her madness was inherited and what that means for mental health and she said no and goes to say that dany was like an addict when it came to murdering people (emilia baby i love you but what?) The one thing im glad about is that he doesnt share kristen bell's opinion about dany's death
Addiction is still a mental health issue bb. See, this is exactly why I didnât listen to it. Spin spin spin. Itâs bad writing. End of story. Thereâs nothing to her madness. If anything itâs because she just lost EVERYTHING and EVERYONE. She was grieving and just cut loose. Thatâs literally the only thing that makes sense and even that is out of character.
I got clarification on the âaddictionâ quote from someone I trust and who listened to the whole thing (bless her). If youâre seeing it on Twitter or on here itâs not what Emilia was saying, itâs been taken out of context. Hereâs what she said (again, bless her).
[That quote has been taken out of context online for real. It got cherry-picked and pieced together from a couple of different parts of the discussion.
The addiction she referenced was actually talking about the actor motivational direction she received from Miguel in the bells sequence. Basically he told her to play it like an addict at a bar with a drink in their hand and nothing to lose. Making that last spiraling bad decision. Which is bullshit but whatever.
The murdering people part came from her describing how Dany felt like all of her allies were suddenly treating her like the bad guy. Sheâd killed people before but now itâs suddenly wrong.
Emilia VERY much defended Dany still and I havenât seen her so close to outright saying âI didnât like my endingâ as she did in that interview. She specifically said that she read the script, didnât understand it but said that she was hired to do a job and would do it to the best of her ability. Then she really hit on how she didnât believe the turn had anything to do with her father or bad genes. Rather than Dany was abused and sold her entire life and had to claw her way to where she got. She felt the pressure of restoring her family her entire life. And everyone around her started devaluing her journey and her work to get to the throne which is what helped set her off. That her turn was caused by pressure and abuse sheâd felt her entire life combined with the external situation she was put in by others at that moment.
You really got the sense that not only did she thoroughly understand Dany better than anyone on that set (what else is new?) but that she does not see Dany as the bad guy. She came so close to straight up saying I do not agree.]
Glad for the clarification. I started reading this, and I was like.. oh Emilia no. Because the other day I watched this interview/game thing, and someone called up and said their unpopular opinion was that the got ending (last season?) wasnât that bad. And she was like phew I thought you were going to say that you hated it. And I get that she canât shit on it, but I just thought she wouldnât like.. be bothered that people hated it.
Also I hadnât heard what K Bellâs opinion on Dany was.. not sure I want to though. I already hate what she did/agreed with re: killing Logan on VM, soâŚ
Havenât finished listening to the Podcast yet but yeah, this is what Emilia said in the Inside the Episode or the Game Revealed or whichever one it was. It wasnât that Dany was addicted to killing people. She had a moment of âI could do this thing, or I could not do this thing.â And she did the thing. Itâs her âput down the chocolate cakeâ scenario. Sheâs up on the back of Drogon, she has a thought, she debates with herself a little, then she does it.Â
The thought process is much like an addict trying not to do the thing they know is bad, but there are just so many emotions happening at once, itâs difficult to step away and think clearly.Â
THREE CHEERS FOR THE TOXIC GAME OF THRONES FANDOM THAT SCARED THESE TWO HACKS AWAY FROM STAR WARS! I LOVE BEING CALLED TOXIC EVEN THOUGH THE FINAL SEASON IS UNIVERSALLY DESPISED AND THE BACKLASH IS JUSTIFIED!
WEâRE ALL HER SATANIC MAJESTY!
Stay pressed.
Emilia Clarke is the hardest Daenerys Stan ever. She is the queen of our fandom. I love her so much. She will never know just how much we all appreciate her!
Imagine thinking - with your full chest - that Jon âdisapprovingâ of Dany executing a man who has committed treason several times over, and has attempted to poison her is a good writing choice.Â
Especially when Jon himself has executed men for FAR less.
As a Jonerys fan, one of the reasons S8 was so shitty is it made Dany/Jon's relationship look very ... uneven or one sided. S7 ended very clearly with Dany and Jon, both as equally powerful allies and rulers. Then S8 basically has Daenerys doing all the work while getting shit on by the North and the Stark sisters and Jon is just ... there? He at least upholds his word to go with her and lead Northern forces to KL but that's basically it?
They had some good moments in Episode 1 but then it went down the hill from there. Even then, Dany letting Jon riding Rhaegal was complete nonsense. It was total fanservice and nothing more. Dany had a hard time training her dragons and even flying them (remember Drogon refusing to fly back to Meereen?), but Jon due to his âcock powerâ not only flies Rhaegal like a pro, he actually goes into battle on dragonback on his second ride. What a bunch of bullshit. Also, the waterfall scene doesnât make any sense with Season 8 plot: so Dany is this âpower-hungry tyrantâ but she wouldnât mind leave everything behind to live with Jon in the wilderness? What? Iâve said it before and Iâll say it again: this is why Season 8 failed and the narrative is utter nonsense. They needed Dany and her resources to save the North but they wanted to turn her into a villain, and these two donât add up. You canât have a queen honoring her word and doing her part of the bargain and then calling her a tyrant. You canât have her tolerating the Starks openly disrespecting her in front of her subjects and calling her a tyrant. Whoever wrote or even agrees with this bullshit never pick up a History book. Iâm a History major and I had some good laughs at this fandom stupidity when it comes to Medieval History. In real life, people were executed for less than talking shit to a monarch and these kings arenât even remembered as tyrants. Remember when Grey Wind basically eat Lord Umberâs hand because he disrespected Robb? Yeah, I donât recall anyone calling Robb a tyrant because he threatened his subjects with his direwolf to assure his leadership over them. You see: when a man does it, itâs cool and awesome but when a woman does it, itâs âmadnessâ and tyrannical.
When we look at the overall story, Jon and Dany relationship leaves a sour taste in my mouth and doesnât add up with what was previously established in Season 7. In Season 8, Jon never tells others that he willingly bent the knee to Dany because she proved herself worthy by being willing to sacrifice herself for her people (rescue mission beyond the Wall), nor that Dany pledged herself to the Northern cause of defeating the Night King and his army before he bent the knee. Whenever others attack Dany, his only response is âsheâs my queenâ or whatever: he never reveals the things she did to prove herself worthy of his allegiance and love. By vilifying Dany, Jon was basically turned into a horny buffoon in Season 8: he only wants her because sheâs hot, heâs thinking with his dick - thatâs basically what the narrative is saying. But we watched Season 7, we know thatâs some bullshit right there. Jon and Dany both care deeply about their people and they were chosen as leaders. They were equals: a King and Queen. They also fell in love in the worst of times but their love was supposed to represent a beacon of hope in the darkness to come. And donât even bring up the incest part when the ultimate love story of this crap was Cersei and Jaimeâs. All the talk about Dany and children in Season 7 apparently didnât mean anything. Also, Jon basically taking credit for Danyâs accomplishments (riding a dragon, facing the Night King on dragonback, etc.) and never praising her is some disgusting whole level of sexism. Dany is never praised for her role in the Battle of Winterfell: her armies were slaughtered, she rode Drogon and faced the Night King, she picked up a dragonglass sword and fought, and she lost Jorah. But her efforts are never acknowledged. Actually, when she was out there fighting and risking her life, the Lady of the House was hiding inside and talking shit about her.Â
Dany has every right to be pissed at the feast when Jon is right there being congratulated for doing the same shit as she did. Varys looks at her suspiciously like sheâs wrong in reacting this way (and later he tells Tyrion he worries about her state of mind). This bullshit was so obviously written by men: women everywhere know what is like to have a man taking credit for their deeds. After the feast, Jon is drunk and wants to kiss and have sex with Dany but stops himself. She just lost Jorah but he never bothers to ask how sheâs doing. She asks him to keep his parentage a secret because hell would break lose. Dany is absolutely right and all her fears come true: people actually go on their way to conspire to kill her and place Jon in the throne instead. You arenât paranoid or mentally instable if your instincts are right and people are out there to get you. And donât even get me started about how awful this story is towards mentally ill people by representing them as âevilâ and âmonstersâ. This so wrong and fucked up, I canât even find the words to express my disgust. Then, Dany loses both Rhaegal and Missandei and sheâs mourning them. In some repulsive fashion, they show us Dany with bags under her eyes and her hair unkempt: this was supposed to be an indicator she was mentally instable (yikes). Jon arrives at Dragonstone but does he care in comforting her? No. He shallowly says he loves her and pushes her away. But where the fuck is this love heâs talking about? When I first saw this scene, I immediately recalled this scene from âCloserâ (2004):
This is Jonâs love for Dany in Season 8 in a nutshell. The narrative says Jon does love Dany. But this âloveâ is shallow and meaningless concerning his actions towards her: he doesnât support her, he doesnât stand up for her and he isnât even there when she needs him the most. She is going through a harsh time and he gives her the side-eye when she rightfully executes Varys for treason (he was trying to kill her): apparently Jon kind of forgot he executed a child who killed him because he befriended the wildings (who, you know, murdered and eaten Ollyâs family and forced him to watch). This is emotional abuse in my book. Have you ever watched âMidsommarâ (2019)? Season 8 Jon is like the protagonistâs abusive boyfriend, This goes full circle when Jon murders Dany because he wants to protect himself and Arya, Sansa and Bran. But does he try to understand Dany or her motifs? No, sheâs a tyrant, period. She wants to kill everyone even tho she never says this. I already talked about how OCC it was for Dany to burn down Kingâs Landing. She wants to break the wheel and the masters of Westeros are the feudal lords. Of course Dany is threat to every Lord in Westeros because she wants to give power to the people, the smalfolk. The people would then decide who they wanted to rule them. The Northern people might still choose a Stark to lead them⌠or not. Thatâs a treat to the Stark dominion over the North.
Either way: all of it was bullshit and offensive and these writers can go fuck themselves for even thinking this was okay.
As a Jonerys fan, one of the reasons S8 was so shitty is it made Dany/Jon's relationship look very ... uneven or one sided. S7 ended very clearly with Dany and Jon, both as equally powerful allies and rulers. Then S8 basically has Daenerys doing all the work while getting shit on by the North and the Stark sisters and Jon is just ... there? He at least upholds his word to go with her and lead Northern forces to KL but that's basically it?
They had some good moments in Episode 1 but then it went down the hill from there. Even then, Dany letting Jon riding Rhaegal was complete nonsense. It was total fanservice and nothing more. Dany had a hard time training her dragons and even flying them (remember Drogon refusing to fly back to Meereen?), but Jon due to his âcock powerâ not only flies Rhaegal like a pro, he actually goes into battle on dragonback on his second ride. What a bunch of bullshit. Also, the waterfall scene doesnât make any sense with Season 8 plot: so Dany is this âpower-hungry tyrantâ but she wouldnât mind leave everything behind to live with Jon in the wilderness? What? Iâve said it before and Iâll say it again: this is why Season 8 failed and the narrative is utter nonsense. They needed Dany and her resources to save the North but they wanted to turn her into a villain, and these two donât add up. You canât have a queen honoring her word and doing her part of the bargain and then calling her a tyrant. You canât have her tolerating the Starks openly disrespecting her in front of her subjects and calling her a tyrant. Whoever wrote or even agrees with this bullshit never pick up a History book. Iâm a History major and I had some good laughs at this fandom stupidity when it comes to Medieval History. In real life, people were executed for less than talking shit to a monarch and these kings arenât even remembered as tyrants. Remember when Grey Wind basically eat Lord Umberâs hand because he disrespected Robb? Yeah, I donât recall anyone calling Robb a tyrant because he threatened his subjects with his direwolf to assure his leadership over them. You see: when a man does it, itâs cool and awesome but when a woman does it, itâs âmadnessâ and tyrannical.
When we look at the overall story, Jon and Dany relationship leaves a sour taste in my mouth and doesnât add up with what was previously established in Season 7. In Season 8, Jon never tells others that he willingly bent the knee to Dany because she proved herself worthy by being willing to sacrifice herself for her people (rescue mission beyond the Wall), nor that Dany pledged herself to the Northern cause of defeating the Night King and his army before he bent the knee. Whenever others attack Dany, his only response is âsheâs my queenâ or whatever: he never reveals the things she did to prove herself worthy of his allegiance and love. By vilifying Dany, Jon was basically turned into a horny buffoon in Season 8: he only wants her because sheâs hot, heâs thinking with his dick - thatâs basically what the narrative is saying. But we watched Season 7, we know thatâs some bullshit right there. Jon and Dany both care deeply about their people and they were chosen as leaders. They were equals: a King and Queen. They also fell in love in the worst of times but their love was supposed to represent a beacon of hope in the darkness to come. And donât even bring up the incest part when the ultimate love story of this crap was Cersei and Jaimeâs. All the talk about Dany and children in Season 7 apparently didnât mean anything. Also, Jon basically taking credit for Danyâs accomplishments (riding a dragon, facing the Night King on dragonback, etc.) and never praising her is some disgusting whole level of sexism. Dany is never praised for her role in the Battle of Winterfell: her armies were slaughtered, she rode Drogon and faced the Night King, she picked up a dragonglass sword and fought, and she lost Jorah. But her efforts are never acknowledged. Actually, when she was out there fighting and risking her life, the Lady of the House was hiding inside and talking shit about her.Â
Dany has every right to be pissed at the feast when Jon is right there being congratulated for doing the same shit as she did. Varys looks at her suspiciously like sheâs wrong in reacting this way (and later he tells Tyrion he worries about her state of mind). This bullshit was so obviously written by men: women everywhere know what is like to have a man taking credit for their deeds. After the feast, Jon is drunk and wants to kiss and have sex with Dany but stops himself. She just lost Jorah but he never bothers to ask how sheâs doing. She asks him to keep his parentage a secret because hell would break lose. Dany is absolutely right and all her fears come true: people actually go on their way to conspire to kill her and place Jon in the throne instead. You arenât paranoid or mentally instable if your instincts are right and people are out there to get you. And donât even get me started about how awful this story is towards mentally ill people by representing them as âevilâ and âmonstersâ. This so wrong and fucked up, I canât even find the words to express my disgust. Then, Dany loses both Rhaegal and Missandei and sheâs mourning them. In some repulsive fashion, they show us Dany with bags under her eyes and her hair unkempt: this was supposed to be an indicator she was mentally instable (yikes). Jon arrives at Dragonstone but does he care in comforting her? No. He shallowly says he loves her and pushes her away. But where the fuck is this love heâs talking about? When I first saw this scene, I immediately recalled this scene from âCloserâ (2004):
This is Jonâs love for Dany in Season 8 in a nutshell. The narrative says Jon does love Dany. But this âloveâ is shallow and meaningless concerning his actions towards her: he doesnât support her, he doesnât stand up for her and he isnât even there when she needs him the most. She is going through a harsh time and he gives her the side-eye when she rightfully executes Varys for treason (he was trying to kill her): apparently Jon kind of forgot he executed a child who killed him because he befriended the wildings (who, you know, murdered and eaten Ollyâs family and forced him to watch). This is emotional abuse in my book. Have you ever watched âMidsommarâ (2019)? Season 8 Jon is like the protagonistâs abusive boyfriend, This goes full circle when Jon murders Dany because he wants to protect himself and Arya, Sansa and Bran. But does he try to understand Dany or her motifs? No, sheâs a tyrant, period. She wants to kill everyone even tho she never says this. I already talked about how OCC it was for Dany to burn down Kingâs Landing. She wants to break the wheel and the masters of Westeros are the feudal lords. Of course Dany is threat to every Lord in Westeros because she wants to give power to the people, the smalfolk. The people would then decide who they wanted to rule them. The Northern people might still choose a Stark to lead them⌠or not. Thatâs a treat to the Stark dominion over the North.
Either way: all of it was bullshit and offensive and these writers can go fuck themselves for even thinking this was okay.
Emilia Clarke & Kit Harington + The 71st Annual Primetime Emmy Awards 2019.
Same bad bitch energy
Emilia Clarke talking about Kit.
Why does this look like they bout to dance I -