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#aura off the charts
if you're not ok with anakin being described as redeemable and capable of love maybe you should bring it up to george lucas in 1983 idk
people on instagram are a 100% more normal and literate about anakin and the council than tumblr, I've found
anyway
the council: we don’t trust palpatine and we don’t trust anakin
the council: hey u know what’s a great idea? sending anakin to spy on palpatine
the council: we don’t like anakin and don’t think he should be a jedi and don’t want him around at all because he’s a dangerous, unstable weapon
the council: …that we can use to our political advantage
The council: we don’t like that anakin is so close to palpatine and think he should stick with us though we never give him support in any meaningful way
The council: so let’s use that connection we don’t like and jeopardize the one good connection anakin has with the council in the process. No way this can go wrong.
Me,when watching the prequel trilogy and seeing the characters’ actions:
(Also,a big part of espionage is dealing with people’s feelings/emotions and learning how to spot compromised people. This is where the Jedi Council failed, and Palpatine excelled. As someone said in one of the movies,he was very good at spotting the senators’ passions and prejudices. To top it all,Anakin made it pretty clear that he didn’t feel comfortable being put at that spot).
when will people understand that the jedi weren't like:
healthy attachments: okay!
unhealthy attachments: no
they were like: all attachments are inherently bad like try watching the PT sometime instead of 'jedi utopia' fanfic ffs
The Jedi consider the attachment of babies to their parents to be a source of doubt and potential Darkness.
Infants and their parents.
The big conflict with Anakin being too 'old' at the ripe of age of nine was that he missed and worried about his mom.
Who. Was. Left. A. Slave.
And even if she was living it up on some soft green world, it was a small child leaving behind his beloved mother.
Unhealthy attachments my left foot.
I’m just thinking about how Anakin knows about Luke before Palpatine announces Luke’s identity (presumably he’s withholding that knowledge as part of his plotting against Palpatine). But at the revelation that Palpatine knows Luke’s identity and considers him a threat, Anakin’s kneejerk response is “he’s just a boy.”
(He frames this as “and therefore not actually a serious threat,” but a) sure, Anakin, and b) in the broader context of the film, he’s obviously lying.)
Meanwhile, Luke pretty clearly grasps that Vader = Anakin = his father almost immediately after Anakin announces it (hence nooOOOOOooo and Father…). But he does turn to Yoda and Obi-Wan for confirmation and more information. Within moments of getting it, his response is “I can’t kill my own father.”
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#authority figures to anakin and luke: you must kill the other one for the greater good#anakin and luke: hmm. alternately i could not do that#<—- great tags op (via @lyanna-skywalker)
Thank you! I hadn’t thought about this post in awhile, so it’s always fun to revisit my Skywalker feelings :D
I would like to point out, Yoda and Obi said CONFRONT Vader, not kill him. And even if they did, they have evidence that simply being someone Vader cared about isn’t enough to stop him from trying to kill you. Padme being a major example. They were preparing Luke for the possibility that he might have to kill Vader. Fortunately for all, Like found another way.
This is a common argument, but I think untrue, at least when it comes to Obi-Wan. In Return of the Jedi, Luke and Obi-Wan have this interchange:
LUKE: I can’t kill my own father. OBI-WAN: Then the Emperor has already won.
I really don’t think that can be reasonably interpreted as “you don’t need to actually kill him to save us all, just ‘defeat’ him in some way that doesn’t involve patricide.”
In any case, my post isn’t about whether they could have known that Anakin would feel enough affection for Luke to sacrifice everything including the Empire and his own life for him (of course not). It’s about how both Luke’s and Anakin’s most immediate mentors during the OT frame killing each other as their only realistic options: there is patricide/filicide, or there is horrific failure for the entire galaxy, and no other options. While both Luke and Anakin falter at times in their opposition to this, ultimately the culmination of both their arcs in the OT lies in defying their mentors’ intentions for them and rejecting the false dichotomy those mentors (evil or good) present them with.
ah yes an inherently possessive and unhealthy love *checks notes* a nine year old missing his mum
And we must separate babies from their families as soon as possible and rarely allow contact *checks notes* because the love between parent and child is possessive and leads to suffering and Darkness.
because without training from infancy they uh *throws OT out of the window* they can never learn and they are a danger to themselves and others
'the jedi are the literal embodiment of good and hope' do you mind if I laugh for a bit
sure, if you're privileged! fuck 'em outer rim slaves tho am I right?
The 'Jedi are the embodiment of good and hope',, but will take charge of a the manufacturing of such large scale slavery that it would make a Hutt blush to protect the economic interests of the Core world elite when a civil war breaks out over systems wishing to leave the Republic.
And never have a single, solitary ethical quam over it.
A child who was born into slavery in the outer rim, with nothing to his name, risked his life for two of their knights and a royal figure.
He enters their high chamber after being promised by one of their own that he might be able to join their heroic cause.
But what is he met with? Disdain. Isolation. Criticism. He’s shamed for feeling emotions that are natural for anyone thrust into different circumstances, let alone a traumatized child. They treat him like a threat before he can even do anything.
He’s not even a offered a proper greeting before he’s put under scrutiny.
The Light of the Jedi is supposed to be a beacon of hope, warmth, and goodness…. but the cold reality is that it’s not. At least not anymore. Definitely not to those on the outside. That disillusionment with the Jedi is central to the Prequels, if not the entire saga really.
Luke: So what exactly made you turn to the dark side?
Force-ghost Anakin: Oh a lot of things really. I was raised in slavery until the age of nine, and then the Jedi order took me away from my mother and didn’t let me go save her from slavery, then when I saw her again she died in my arms after being tortured to death, the Jedi Council, mostly Mace Windu, openly showed that the didn’t trust me and even resented me, a complicated plot was created to get my Padawan, who was like a little sister to me, wrongly framed for terrorism and kicked out of the order, and she would’ve probably been executed if I didn’t find out, then she left the order and never came back leaving me feeling like a failure, the war progressively got worse and worse and I had to spend more and more time away from my wife, I was goaded into killing Count Dooku by the Chancellor whom I trusted but I still felt like I probably shouldn’t have done it, I started getting premonitions that my wife was going to die in childbirth and was manipulated into thinking that only the dark side of the force could save her, then I found out Chancellor Palpatine who was my trusted friend and advisor was actually a Sith Lord and had been manipulating me for like 15 years to suffer as much as possible and grow resentment towards the council, then when I next saw him he was going to be killed by Mace Windu and I was really conflicted because I knew he was evil but I trusted him you know? And then I cut off Mace’s hands which resulted in his death via Palpatine eletrocuting him and him falling to his death and I immediately knew I made a mistake and fell to my knees sobbing because I couldn’t undo what I had done, so I submitted myself to the dark side and began falling in earnest making terrible decisions while at the same time I began to have a psychological break from my identity of self and began to separate my identity from the fact that I was the one doing these awful things, then I was the leader of direct attacks during order 66 and personally killed many Jedi including younglings, then I personally murdered the leaders of the separatist alliance, then Padme and Obi-wan showed up, I realized Padme didn’t want to be with me anymore because of what I had done but that’s valid honestly, though I didn’t see that at the time. Then Obi-wan cut all my remaining limbs off and let me burn next to a lava pit to the point where I would spend the remainder of my life in agony regardless of any advanced medical equipment I had. So yeah that’s what happened
Luke: Holy shit
Anakin: Yeah. Also the last time I saw Ahsoka she didn’t hug me
Luke: Oh, that uh, that doesn’t sound as bad as the rest of them though
Anakin: no it was
Least favourite star wars prequels headcanon/theory/whatever it is I see popping up in fics so often is that the jedi do accept love and Anakin just misunderstood the lessons.
Like first of all, no they do not accept love, that's literally what kicks off the story. Second of all, if you think that Anakin misunderstood a fundamental part of the jedi teachings after being with them for 10 years, the jedi must not be very good teachers.
He is skating sooooo close to the line in this whole scene. He’s giving Jabba a warning he knows Jabba’s going to ignore, and I swear to god, he’s looking forward to unleashing hell.
I get why. This was his home, and he knows what the Hutts are responsible for. But damn. DAMN. Such a great precursor to the Luke we see in the Emperor’s throne room.
All of those details + that manic little smirk he does when telling Jabba that “that’s the last mistake you’ll ever make”:
(Once I figure out how to make gifs it’s over for y’all)
He’s honestly a little scary during these scenes. This is Luke but he’s different than what we’ve seen previously and they make that very clear. He’s toeing the line so closely during the rescue and it really does set everything up so incredibly well. Mark played him beautifully.
I love all of this and I hate how easily people forget about this Luke. Like yes he is our sunshine pookiebaby with a heart of gold but he’s also unhinged af. Even when he chooses Light over Dark at the end of ROTJ he is still unhinged af. I mean this is the guy who in Heir to the Empire we find out likes tossing his lightsaber in the air like a boomerang to take out multiple enemies at once. He befriends the Emperor’s personal assassin even though she keeps saying she wants to kill him. He tries to negotiate with a total madman who wants to kidnap his sister and use her kids as Force slaves. Luke Skywalker is crazy and we should all appreciate him more for it
Ok I dont usually add to posts but I cant resist, because the entire rescue segment in ROTJ is Luke showing his similarites to Anakin/Vader to the max, this was peak father-son parallel times, showing how much Luke is like his father in the most wild ways.
And dont try to tell me this was all like retroactive kind of paralleling either by making Anakin during the prequel era similar to Luke here,of which there a lot of as well, but there were plenty of obvious parallels between Luke and Vader at the time as it was! First of all,he enters the palace and when guards try to stop him with spears HE FORCE CHOKES THEM,the most signature Vader move of all!
There is a deleted scene in ROTJ where Vader was going to talk to the Emperor and he was detained, so of course he force choked his way in,look at this scene which happened in the same movie,in which two guards also try to stop Vader with spears and he responds the exact same way as Luke did earlier
Then, once he is menacing Jabba we all saw that earlier in this post how Luke warned Jabba not to understimate his power, echoing Anakins famous line at Mustafar as well
Right afterwars, when it becomes clear negotions have failed,Luke takes a blaster from one of Jabbas thugs with the Force
You know where weve seen that move before? You guessed it! Its Vader in ESB!
As a previous user already pointed out theres Lukes manic smile while hes being taken away as well,the ominous warning is very Vader-like too I think
Also I want to point at the last time he treatens Jabba before going all out,its a very categorical and absolute kind of declaration
I dont know, it reminds me of the kind of thigns Anakin/Vader tends to say when hes being menacing as well
And of course,theres the whole salute and hiding their lightsaber in R2D2 thing,that whole scene in clone wars is an echo of Lukes here,which just proves once again that Luke is just like his dad
I could keep going with the father-son parallels all day,because these 2 are foils of one another and this whole saga is based on that connection,but its just...ROTJ is where its most obvious! The whole movie is made to make you question if Luke will Fall like his father did,and it does so by making Luke take after Vader. Look at the way he defeats Vader at the end and how it literally mirrors the way Vader defeated him!
I will never be over Lukes unhinged expression Luke has jsut after cutting Vaders hand and having him at his mercy btw, we dont appreciate his crazy look enough,hes foaming at the mouth!
I just really love how this movie showed so much of Lukes Darkness,how he had the same kind of hang ups as his father did,that hes kind and compassionate and fiercely loving as Anakin, that he can be just as ruthless and brutal as Darth Vader himself. And in the end, despite it all,both Anakin/Vader and Luke are good and their unconditional love for one another saves Anakins soul and the Galaxy. God I love this 2 idiots and how similar they are,the family resemblance and how they go trough the same beats, George Lucas knew what he was doing, the family resemblance and story echoes are amazing, I will fight anyone who says otherwise
All this just to say that I would like it if people remembered that Luke is far more cunning than most poeple give him credit for lol. I would like people to remember that Luke can be just as unhinged as his fahter is....
its actually crazy and evil that one of the first things Anakin said in The Phantom Menace was "I'm a person, my name is Anakin." because the prequels are kind of a defense of Vader's personhood; theyre there to develop worldbuilding and show us the politics that led to the Empire taking over + the system that facilitated this kind of damage, but they also force us to recognise that Vader was once a young man who was trying to change something, who fell in love and got manipulated and betrayed people but still didnt stop loving them. and these things were only ever there as concepts towards the end of the original trilogy, bc we've gotten to see him as Darth Vader, the figure. and when they reintroduce him to us as a little boy he's already having to tell us that he's a person, not a slave or a figure or a chosen one, and his name is Anakin
ANIKA YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME 😭😭😭
he's so adamant that he's a person even though he's spent his entire life up to this point in slavery where he is treated as property and even after he's freed he's seen as "the chosen one" before being a person and then he's forced to fight in a war orchestrated by the man who basically enslaves him again as darth vader and he literally loses all of his limbs and can't breathe on his own and is as far removed from human as you can get and "anakin is gone. i am what remains" and "that name no longer has any meaning for me" but in the end there is still the person of anakin skywalker buried deep down no matter how much he insists that he has killed him and it takes the love and steadfast belief from his son to finally unearth his true self and he returns to the light, taking hold of his personhood with both fists and destroying the man who did nothing but take that from him only to die immediately after... he is so tragic he is the character ever i need to lie down
Just rewatched A New Hope and I have to say the energy between the main trio is absolutely bonkers; like they switch between "you are the most annoying person I know" to "omg bestie hugs!" at the drop of a hat.
- Han and Luke are arguing the whole way from the cantina to the detention center.
- Then Leia comes in and she's yelling at both of them.
- Then they get stuck in the trash compactor and Han desperately tries to save Luke from the tentacles, and then when the compactor goes on and they're all panicking he's trying to help Leia get to higher ground.
- Trash compactor goes off, they all celebrate, Han and Leia freaking HUG...and next scene we're right back to the Sass.
- Leia kisses Luke on the cheek for luck right before they swing across a gap.
- Han and Luke bond over shooting tie fighters away.
- Han admits he kinda likes Leia even though they've basically done nothing but bicker (when not in immediate danger).
- Luke gets upset when Han wants to take his money and leave even though he's know him for like a day. Han pretends he doesn't care but then leaves Luke with a completely sincere "May the force be with you." Despite thr fact that he doesn't believe in that stuff.
- Luke continues to be upset so much that he complains to Leia about Han leaving and she kisses him on the cheek AGAIN as comfort.
- Han comes back and must have been tapping into the comms the whole time because he swoops in specifically to save Luke.
- When they return to the base Leia runs to hug Luke, and then Luke runs to hug Han, and then they all just end up in an excited group hug.
And maybe it's because Leia just lost her planet and Luke just lost all his parental figures and Han is just lost but they absolutely speedrun found family in a way that critics nowadays would find completely unrealistic, and yet the energy between them is something neither the prequels or the sequels were able to match. Just "nope, these idiots are mine now".
Anyway the point is Star Wars is good when it's good.
(Luke doesn't get a braincell until RotJ, Han has no braincells but is very good at making it seem like he does, Leia has braincells but they are angry.)
...poor untrained non swimmer boy
Star Wars really said "Anakin Skywalker had issues rooted in childhood trauma that was not his fault" but also "Anakin made his own choices as an adult for which he alone is responsible" but ALSO "In spite of the truly evil things he chose to do Anakin was still capable of being loved and redeemed" and I think that's important.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars man. The little proverbs at the beginning of each episode, the news report openings, the random side quest filler episodes, the non-chronological episode order, the beautiful and unique animation, the intricacy, the emotional devastation. What a show.
Not just my son…but my son who loves me