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I love Obi-Wan but I maintain that it was royally fucked up for him to leave Anakin maimed and burned on Mustafar.
Darth Vader is in his early 20s
And he’s a little shit.
You can put on a mask but you can’t take out the sass.
Sir - SIR this is a mass murder.
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“Anakin watched his mother appreciatively. Her lank, dark hair was beginning to gray, and her once graceful movements had slowed. But he thought she was beautiful and brave. He thought she was perfect.” The Phantom Menace by Terrt Brooks.
Ani being protective of the the people he loves 10/10.
ah fuck. just thinking abt how the jedi fucked my boy makes me >:’(
“Never forget this: You’re mine. Mine to me. No matter where you go, or what they may call you, you will always be my son.” - The Jungle Book (2016)
Love this, but what if it was from Vader to Luke?
Tell me a single moral rule Anakin has set for himself and maybe I'll consider respecting the dude.
You first. Tell me a single moral rule Obi Wan has set for himself, and has not personally broken.
Obi Wan engaging in casual racism:
ObI Wan committing a war crime...
or two... (he’s using that guy as a human shield)
or maybe three .... yes probing a suspect’s mind with “the Force” still counts as torture...
Its the Geneva Convention ObI Wan. not the Geneva Suggestion.. Obi Wan “that sounds like terrorism” Kenobi Co-operating with literal terrorists called the Death Watch. The lovely people who we saw torching a village and butchering civlians in Season 4 of the Clone Wars.
“But he has cool armour and Satine”
Yeah, merrily rubbing shoulders with terrorists to save your girlfriend is still rubbing shoulders with terrorists. Obi Wan “but muh honour” Kenobi Casually stabbing a dude with a fork:
Beating Anakin unconscious
Beating the crap out of someone else an Episode later....
Obi Wan “but muh Jedi Code” Kenobi .....using Rex to kill an unarmed Zygerrian lord...
“Borrowing” something without the owner knowing and not returning it is called theft Kenobi.
Meanwhile Anakin “has no morals” Skywalker. Refusing to whip his best friend.. even though it jeapordizes the mission..
Carries the Zygerrian Queen who has had him beaten, tortured and abused back to his ship...
and looks sad when she dies. Yeah, the ex-slave actually showing compassion to a slaver... has no morals though. We don’t need to provide screenshots for Obi Wan’s known penchant for lying, because that is so well documented. Although with Luke it eventually translated into outright grooming. That’s what child abusers do. As is his penchant for cutting off limbs... in fact I’m pretty sure he has the highest cutting off limb count in Star Wars. Even animals...
He also has one of highest on screen kill counts, if this video is anything to go by. https://youtu.be/jq17x5tevgo?t=409 Or this screenshot of said video.
That’s rather a lot of kills. Bonus: Obi Wan with his division of Genetically modified child slave soldiers. Ain’t that the cutest!
So, er, yeah? Where was I? Oh yeah. Anakin’s morals. He had plenty of em, I asked you to show me any moral rule Obi Wan didn’t break. I don’t recall Obi Wan feeling bad about any of the above so- why should I respect him?
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When Anakin joined the Jedi Order, his morality was actually pretty normal, better than the Jedi Order’s even. It was brave, compassionate, open-minded, and selfless. He wanted to help free the slaves of his community. He risked his life to save anyone who needed help, including people he’d just met. In the TPM novelization he even helped out a Tusken Raider who he saw had his leg caught under a boulder on his way home to his mother, freed him from under the boulder, made a splint for his leg, and bravely stayed with this Raider for a few hours over night to make sure he was okay, even though they were thought of as savages by everyone else because he really was just that kindhearted. He stuck up to his slave master Watto when he caught him trying to beat another slave in his community, even though he knew it could have gotten him hurt in the process.
Then, Obi Wan, Yoda, and the Jedi Council kept telling him how “wrong” he was over the next 14 years, so eventually, he regressed to a slave mindset by the time he got to his teens, and too often kept publicly deferring his moral compass to try to fit in with them, or please people he loved, or protect the people he cared about, particularly if they had social or political power over him, rather than sticking up for himself, because he had nothing outside of them to protect himself or the people he loved, nothing better to safely escape to, and his options for healthy support, mental health treatment, and escape from such abusive, ableist, manipulative, toxic, and unsupportive authority/parental figures and environments were very limited to nonexistent.
Is it an excuse for his crimes? Not entirely. He knew what he was doing felt wrong, and after awhile he did stop trying to fight the darkness. He was selfish in his desperation to avoid abandonment. However, it’s hard to imagine how difficult it would be to not lose your shit, then eventually just give in and become a monster in such consistently awful environments with such consistently awful authority figures from two cults brainwashing and gaslighting you to be their version of a “good” tool or weapon for their own ends when healthy, effective, and safe escape routes, support, and treatment options are very limited to nonexistent and shitty in his position in the GFFA if you came from nothing and had no one of privilege outside of the broken Jedi, Sith, Republic, and Empire.
It’s why I definitely think if this were real life, while not entirely innocent, Anakin/Vader could probably be a viable candidate for the diminished actuality/diminished capacity criminal defense in court.
Reblogging for this commentary on Anakin. Absolutely 1000% yes. He was truly good and morally sound before the Jedi got ahold of him. By the time he becomes Vader, he’s been gaslit for so long that he’s basically doing it to himself now. I definitely think it’s safe to say that Anakin’s agency was severely compromised throughout his entire life, and I don’t think it’s fair to hold him entirely accountable for his crimes, considering this.
He was an enslaved child, indoctrinated into the Jedi cult, constantly gaslit by them and Palpatine, not given any support for his trauma or mental illness, and repeatedly told that he has “seeds of darkness” inside of him... ... Like what did they expect to happen?
Me at my ships: Wow.. they are actually pretty bad for each other huh?
Also me: u wu but they’re in love <3
Also me: Well, they love each other, but they also hate each other the same amount... ... Excellent.
“Master, I’ve disappointed you. I haven’t been very appreciative of your training. I’ve been arrogant, and I apologize. I’ve just been so frustrated with the council.”
Isn’t it odd?
Isn’t it strange that fandom likes to promote the idea that Anakin is the arrogant one who never apologizes, and ObI Wan (who Yoda literally calls arrogant in AOTC) is the model of humility?
Yet in the Revenge of the Sith movie alone we see Anakin apologizing twice not just in this scene, but also in an earlier one in which he apologizes for being late.
It is almost as the majority of fandom ignores the evidence before thier eyes and just accepts what people on the internet say.
Anakin actually apologizes A LOT, even for things that are not his fault. Even when he wasn’t actually wrong. He is the first to take responsibility and accept blame whenever he is accused, or simply feels responsible. He has a tendency to accept more than his fair share of blame. I see this as a fairly classic fawning symptom, as well as a misguided attempt at seizing control over a situation.
I don’t fear you. Then you will die braver than most.
Fear was one of Vader’s greatest weapons. Most of the time he had his opponents trembling at his power and reputation, before ever activating his lightsaber.
Anakin values love and loyalty above all else, and in his own way, so does Lord Vader. After a lot of contemplation, I've come up with some key features that are required in order to receive Vader's affection or approval.
Loyalty first and foremost. "Unconditional love," in the truest sense. There are no terms to loyalty, barring the other party's breach in that bond. As far as Lord Vader's tendency to murder his own people, that is part of their contract. The Sith way is to become stronger or die, and he is devoted to his religious cult in much the same way he was as a Jedi (worth its own discussion.) Also... He hates most of the people serving under the empire for being spineless slugs. Lord Vader is loyal to the empire and the emperor himself, not to all individuals involved. His personal loyalty must be earned. Being loyal to him (to Lord Vader first, ideally) is a good way to start.
Competence and skill are another necessity. If you have no usefulness, then he doesn't see the point in having a relationship. Consistent success is more important than overall skill level. As always, results are what truly matter at the end of the day.
Honor and courage have a distinct place in his heart of hearts. If you want to have a relationship of any kind, it's important to display courage and adhere to some sort of code. It should ideally be your own code, but also aligned with his in a compatible way. Doesn't actually have to be the same, but you also can't judge him.
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