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The Promised Neverland Art Foreshadowing?!
Ok, so I normally don’t post myself just lurk, so excuse me if I screw this up, buuuut… I had to share this. If you are anime-only there will be some manga SPOILERS ahead, so read at your own risk!
I recently got hooked to The Promised Neverland, and even got hard copies of the manga, which is very rare for me.
So as I was appreciating my shiny, newly arrived volume one, and promptly started re-reading, this comment by the author stuck out to me:
What did he mean? I thought it was something that must have been revealed by now, so I was thinking I must be able to figure it out, and I wracked my brain. But my only suspects were the sketch on the next page where Emma stands on the wall, or the fact that there is a glimpse of the demons wearing a mask over their mouths (it wasn’t obvious to me they wore masks until it was revealed later).
Neither of those seemed like that great of a foreshadowing, so I felt disappointed… until I started examining the cover art for hints, and suddenly it clicked and HOT DAMN, I think I am on to something!
So the cover art of volume 1 is a nice artistic composition with the kids standing on some funky boxes with books in the front in neat bookshelves and Grace Field in the back. Very nice and spazzy, nothing strange, right? So am I talking about the titles on those books you can sometimes barely read? Saying stuff, like NUMBER, RUN, HURRY UP! ?
WRONG
Oh boy, no it’s not the small details, LOOK AGAIN, at the BIG PICTURE. What can you see? Ok, I will help by pointing out a couple of things in red:
Do you see these children standing on a set of STAIRS leading down into a HOLE UNDERNEATH Gracefield House?!?!??!
It’s a bit difficult to see in the colour edition, but the inside of the volume cover also includes a sketch version where you can see that the hole isn’t just lined by books, but there are also cogs, and what looks like some old, broken columns… which could be ancient artefacts?
Here, I took a picture of my copy since I couldn’t find this art online with a quick search:
So I thought, could it be that ever since volume FRIGGIN one we had been staring at the tunnel that leads to the human world at Gracefield that we now know about? Also, if that’s the case, it’s implied the kids will go through it…
Well, knowing these mangakas, I wouldn’t put such a ballsy and far reaching foreshadowing move past them, after all, they have showcased some God-tier foreshadowing game throughout the manga in my opinion.
But what REALLY got me thinking that I might be onto something was a quick google search when I was looking for a decent quality pic of this volume art, and then I found these…
Those are the chapter covers of chapter 10 and 32. Any of you seeing a pattern yet? Regarding a hole in the ground at Gracefield with stairs that the kids all ho through?!?!? Yeah, at this point I don’t think it’s a coincidence… it would be hard to swallow if it was.
Mind you, if others have already noticed, then please forgive me for this ignorance, but I haven’t seen any post on this yet.
A couple other things I circled or pointed at in those chapter arts: Chapter 10’s spiral staircase has books again (I wonder if this foreshadows that the secret passage starts in the library? though I guess Plant 3’s library would have burned down), and Gracefield is at the bottom, rather than the top. But notice that Gilda is upside down, so I wonder if the world gets switched upside down when you go over to the human world?
I think chapter 32’s art supports this, since this one right behind Emma has a gate at the bottom of the whole, which seems to be upside down.
Sooo what do you all think? Has anyone else noticed these details before?
(Also, I can’t believe again how great and brave the mangakas are at foreshadowing, true respect to them! They really have their stuff together!)
EDIT: Actuaaaaally, an even wilder thought has occurred to me: could we have been staring at the ENDGAME of the series since VOLUME ONE?!?!
We know we are in the final arc, but so far we have been led to believe that the children has no intention of going to the human world, and right now the only options SEEM to be REFORGING the PROMISE or DESTROYING all the FARMS.
But Author-san has said before that he likes to fool readers. So what if he has planned all along that they would go to the human world in the end, all together (notice how Norman is there with them in all the images), and they had the balls to foreshadow right from the start!
As far as I know Author-san has already written 300 pages script before the illustrations began, so yeah, I think they could have pulled this off!
Or maybe this is too wild a theory? They could just go to the human world temporarily or just for help… but maaan, would it be cool if they had us staring at the ending since right from the beginning!
So, guess whos been obsessed with the promised neverland.
What is the SEVEN WALLS and where is the DEMON WORLD? Promised Neverland Theory with MANGA EVIDENCE
So y’all, ready for me to drop one of the biggest BOMB of all? YES, I have figured out both the location of the demon world, and the identity of the seven walls separating it from the human world. Brace yourselves!
What’s more, I have found an OVERWHELMING amount of EVIDENCE to back up my claims. At this point, while not all the details may be correct, I estimate a 99.9% likelihood for the core of the theory to be confirmed.
Anime-only readers, this post is full of manga spoilers, but even manga readers, note:
PROCEED AT RISK OF BEING SPOILED SOME OF THE BIGGEST SECRETS OF THE SERIES
There really is just that much evidence.
But before we get there; I have to explain that I am changing my post format to deal with image limit. I have also decided to do more of a research paper style format to help you understand the points I want to get across.
That means that I will start with a summary of my core theory in the main post, and then I will present all the pieces of evidence in reblogs, along with discussion of each.
Okay, so I have one last thing to say before I make my claims: I want to thank @ajarofearwigs for being a huge help in figuring this one out and listening to my screaming in excitement! Kudos to her actually getting the Seven Walls by making a bad offhand joke… 😂
And without further ado, lets get onto the MEAT of this post (sorry, I cannot not do these bad puns):
The Demon World is…
Oh wait, you didn’t get it? Let me rephrase it:
And the Seven Walls are…
Hmmm I wonder if you are going a bit like this:
So how about you now go and check out the reblogs for an explanation and evidence? Just click on the notes.
THIS NOTE IS HERE UNTIL I FINISH ADDING REBLOGS SO YOU KNOW WHEN I AM DONE
(also damn, looks like tumblr is set on screwing up my formatting if I put in pics later and it needs manual fixing… grrr… don’t be surprised if the pics look jumbled at first)
(I recommend that you start listening to the actual Disney song, Under the sea from the Little Mermaid while reading this. It will a 100% enhance the experience.)
PLOT EVIDENCE NO.1 - SONJU’S EXPLANATION
Here is a list of things that Sonju states about the situation they are in when he explains the Promise:
-They are on EARTH
-The human calendar YEAR is 2O46
-Demons USED TO live in a MUCH BIGGER WORLD
-The world was SEPARATED into human and demon SIDES
-The demon side that they live in NEVER BELONGED TO HUMANS
Please see the panels for yourself.
While Sonju may not always be completely honest with the kids, when Mujika comments to him IN PRIVATE, she never says that he lied, only berates him for keeping some parts of the story.
Based on those facts, we know that the demon world has to be somewhere on Earth, but the books from the human world suggests that they can completely avoid human detection somehow in modern times. How is that possible?
We literally have explored more of space than the bottom of the deep sea.
IT’S THE PERFECT PLACE TO HIDE A WHOLE OTHER CIVILISATION
It fits the bill, but is there solid evidence for it other than it being the most logical choice?
Also, I bet that demons would want the BIGGER half…
PLOT EVIDENCE NO.2 - MINERVA’S ADVENTURE BOOK
If you have read my theory on the demons descending from aliens, then you will remember these panels, and me stating that it was VERY CLEAR FORESHADOWING
However, this time I want to talk about the other book, not the mythology book! The adventure book of Minerva that does make an appearance later on.
OOOOOoooooh it has a SHIP on the cover! Funny coincidence, right?
THE ESTABLISHED GUIDE TO THE DEMON WORLD LITERALLY DESCRIBES THE PLACES THEY GO AS THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA!!!!!!
SIMILAR RIGHT? (to literally quote Emma from those panels…)
I am not sure if I can spell that one out more clearly. Oh yeah, ofc you thought it was JUST A METAPHOR!
Look, THAT IS exactly THE TRICKS how these authors have managed to hide all these hints from people noticing!
But if that wasn’t enough, here have some FRIGGING SEA ANEMONES.
The hints are not even subtle, and then Kaiu Shirai-san has the galls to lay it on even thicker
PLOT EVIDENCE NO.3 - GOLDY POND’S CONTROL ROOM
You might have been wondering how my theory could be correct when we have always seen a skies and a horizons inside the demon world? Or when the pressure or lack of oxygen and light at the bottom of the sea would make it impossible to live in.
Well, actually we have seen evidence that both the Goldy Pond sky and the Gracefield sky is fake, and their environments are artifically created and controlled.
There was a whole control room at Goldy Pond which took care of the whole environment inside, you know as if the OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENT WASN’T SAFE TO HUMAN LIFE.
The rest of the demon world must sustain its environment with a technology by the demons we don’t understand yet, but Goldy Pond was fully human built, by James Ratri. He must have done it OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS of normal demon land to escape detection, so then it makes sense why he needed such sophisticated technology to create a liveable environment UNDER THE SEA.
We have also seen similar machinery exposed at Gracefield, and we can assume that the sky the kids looked at there is also fake.
PLOT EVIDENCE NO.4 - GOLDY POND’S SELF-DESTRUCT
Ah, remember the glorious chapter where the kids activated the self-destruct at Goldy Pond? Oh yeah, wasn’t it funny how the WHOLE place got flooded? Kinda weird way to self-destruct a huge place… unless ofc you have an enormous body of water above it..
oh wait, did you notice how all that WATER got there: SURGING IN FROM THE TOP OF THE MOTHERFLIPPING CEILING.
THAT’S NOT HOW A POND UNDERGROUND FLOODING THE PLACE WORKS. SINCE GOLDY POND WAS UNDERGROUND…
BUT THE FLOODING WATER WASN’T EVEN GOLD…
Any more doubts? Since we haven’t even gotten to the list of visual hints.
PLOT EVIDENCE NO.5 - The SEVEN WALLS and the Demon Leader’s Riddle
I won’t say that I fully understand the riddle yet, but the directions seem to describe a vortex to me… More importantly let’s focus on what we do know: we have seen Cuvitidala, the dragon, and the place where day meets night.
It’s important to look at that scene again. The place where day meets night… has REFLECTIONS and RIPPLES on it, hmm, just like WATER.
Because it is at the SEA SURFACE. The bottom of the sea is dark, light never reaches there, but at the surface the day meets the darkness, as long as the sun has risen…
Btw it is also established that the Seven Walls separates the demon leader from the demon world, and what separates the ocean surface from the depth of it? That’s right the WHOLE OCEAN.
Which is why the Seven walls are the SEVEN SEAS, just look at the wikipedia description, it’s a perfect fit.
We also have the demon leader tell us a riddle, that fits the ocean solution perfectly.
If that wasn’t clear enough yet, there is plenty of water then swirling around them and yepp,all of their speech bubbles are SURROUNDED BY BUBBLES. AS IF SPEAKING THROUGH A MASS OF WATER.
(Btw doesn’t their clothes also kinda resemble a jellyfish’s top? Or a spineless sea urchin? hmmm but visuals clues I haven’t even started on)!
While I am yet to solve what the golden water is, the fact is that Emma states its related to the Seven Walls so it makes sense that the Seven Walls would be water related.
VISUAL CLUE NO.1 - ANGLERFISH
That is the first image I found on an ANGLERFISH on wikipedia, that live at the BOTTOM OF THE DEEP OCEAN. Not saying demons are anglerfish, but funny place to draw visual inspiration from, aint it?
VISUAL CLUE NO.2 - BUBBLES
You know the saying: it’s like they LIVE INSIDE a BUBBLE.
YES I WENT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY THE IMAGERY POSUKA DEMIZU USES… and it’s NOT A ONE-OFF, it gets repeated again.
That colour poster really drills it home. The background is dark blue, there is water reflections and the glasses falling really look like a swarm of bubbles visually.
VISUAL CLUE NO.3 - GLOBES TURNED TO the OCEAN
ISN’T IT JUST FUNNY HOW THE GLOBE IS TURNED SO WE SEE OCEAN. LIKE POSUKA DEMIZU TELLING US, HEY FOLKS, LOOK HERE!
Oh, and it repeats…
This one even has a MOTHERDUCKING SHIP RIGHT NEXT TO IT. And yes, you guessed it, that isn’t the only ship imagery in the series.
VISUAL CLUE NO.4 - SHIPS
So we have seen one on the adventure book, one in the panel above, and then there is this volume cover showing all their escape plans…
Oh you haven’t noticed it yet? Let me show you the detail you missed:
There is also a ship in the secret room with all the toys, and it repeats on the volume 4 inside cover.
VISUAL CLUE NO.5 - LITERAL WATER IMAGERY
Speaking of which, the outside cover of volume 4 (the one when they made their escape) has our main trio dramatically holding hands, over a pool of water with the GRACEFIELD HOUSE VISIBLE UNDER THE WATER.
OH YES, THIS HAS BEEN THAT LITERAL AND Y’ALL HAS MISSED IT.
(I did too before I knew what to look for, don’t worry).
Btw when Emma almost dies, she also sinks into the depth of the ocean, with Norman and Isabella pulling her out. Good symbolism, riiiight?!
VISUAL CLUE NO.6 - CLOTHING
I have already noted that our demon leader has clothing reminiscent of a sea creature, and it is certain they know about the water relation.
I am not sure if average demons younger than the Promise know that they live under the sea. But we know Sonju and Mujika knows the world before the promise. And doesn’t Mujika’s dress resemble fish scales? Also that cloak pin on Sonju does kiiinda look like a fish bone, no?
WILD SPECULATION TIME
Just when you have thought I was done with adding details, I also have to share my suspicion that I might have also found the REAL LIFE LOCATION of the sea where the demon society lives.
So, just South East of Japan, there is a body of water also known as the DEVIL’S SEA and the DRAGON’S TRIANGLE.
If it was anywhere else in the world, I would wave the coincidence off, but this is LITERALLY NEXT TO JAPAN, and the Japanese have folklore about it… That it’s a place where all sorts of strange disappearances happen (like the bermuda triangle), and that a giant DRAGON LIVES THERE.
I think it’s very realistic to assume that a Japanese author could have been inspired by a sea next to Japan…
Also note that it’s an area with hydrothermal vents (geothermally active seafloor that generate lots of energy… probably even enough to sustain a civilization…) and it is to one side bounded by the Mariana trench.
YES the Mariana trench is the DEEPEST PART OF THE SEA THAT EXISTS on Earth.
Oh, and one more thing, in Japanese the Devil’s Sea translates as Ma-No Umi.
(Sooo, what sails on that sea? emMA-NOrman… okay, I apologize, I know I have gone too far here, and into cray cray territory, but the rest is valid)!
Btw the shape of that tectonic plate kinda reminds me of Emma’s medallion.
My 2018 in a nutshell.
Build The Ideal RPG Team
Most people who’ve played an rpg know the five basic roles: the warrior, the tank, the support, the mage, and the rogue. So, I transcribed these roles onto the students of Class 1-A. There weren’t enough that really fit the idea of “tank” to make the numbers even in all of the categories, but I’m happy with the results. The challenge? To form your own RPG Team using 1 character from each of the five groups. Further details on character skills and abilities below:
kris’ wish, and susie’s choice
This is really cool. Loving the artstyle
Fuyumi
Horikoshi’s note: The feeling that “I couldn’t do anything for Shouto” remains in her heart.
Her favorite thing is “drama”
Natsuo
Horikoshi’s note: Like his sister, he too was constantly troubled by his family circumstances, but his sister told him “Leave our family circumstances to me and go do what you want to pursue”. He decided to pursue higher education. He’s currently studying medical welfare ( His major is written as “医療福祉” which doesn’t have a clear cut translation (for me anyway) but involves connecting medical care to welfare. Basically, its sort of an umbrella term for various therapist jobs like physical therapy, occupational therapist and whatnot.)
His favorite things are sashimi (food) and the sea.
Something to note: Fuyumi is a teacher to compensate for being unable to protect Shoto, Natuso studies medicine most likely because of his mom, and Shoto is a hero to help people in need. All the Todoroki siblings seem to have goals centered around helping people because they grew up in an abusive home
“All the Todoroki siblings seems to have goals centered around helping people because they grew up in an abusive home.”
Blessed siblings 💙
“When we get home okay?”
it’s all I could think of after chapter 206
Kris
Worked on this girl for 9 months. Now this new music video comes out and she’s immensely popular, arguably one of the most popular characters in the LoL universe.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really glad she’s a huge hit, it’s super exciting to see so many people love the character design and the gameplay, and know that I contributed directly and significantly to the behind-the-scenes engineering that makes it all work. It’s validating.
But it’s also so fucking melancholy to know I did so much work and put in so much time for such a shitty company, run by shitty people, and the reward I got for it was unemployment.
I threw a lot into this character. I cried at work. I started getting panic attacks, which I’ve never gotten before. I developed persistent heart palpitations from the daily overwhelming stress and had to go to the hospital (this is true, seriously.) I basically dropped all my friends outside of work. My manager (and his manager!) lied to me constantly to keep me working. They said I was doing a great job but to keep it up. Don’t worry, it’s going to turn out great, and it’ll all be worth it in the end – recognition, a raise, probably a promotion in short order. They promised me the world. When she was finally finished, I didn’t even get to go to the release party, they just walked me out.
I remember a quote from my last day, it sticks out in my mind: “I know you realize this is really hard for me,” my manager said. Yes, in the end, when he awkwardly informed me I didn’t have my dream job anymore – or any job at all – and then stared back at my shell-shocked face, my thousand-yard stare, the only thing he felt was sorry for himself.
She launched with no major bugs and was considered a technical success. Doesn’t matter. Get the fuck out.
I don’t know how I feel. A weird sensation of pride and intense bitterness. I did a good job; at least, I think I did. Unfortunately, internal validation is the only kind I’m going to get.
Everyone reposting KDA should see this. Riot has successfully distracted everyone into forgetting their culture of sexism, exploitation, and toxicity mere months after it was all revealed.
Look, I get it. Akali is EXTREMELY my type. It’s obvious how much love and care was put into her development. But it makes me furious to see all the free advertising that Riot is getting from people who I thought would know better. And now? One of the people who is arguably responsible for all that free advertising? Who’s work is undoubtedly making Riot hundreds of thousands of dollars a day? Who was overworked to the point of near breaking? They get nothing. WORSE than the scant bit of credit that most devs can get in a big company like Riot. They got let go.
Fuck Riot Games.
One thing that I thought really sucked a lot is that the production company who made the KDA video isn’t even credited. They credit a lot of other people on their videos, usually, but the actual animators of the video are hidden; almost a lie by omission. At best it’s a honest mistake, at worst it’s sneakily trying to pass off the video as something made in-house when it’s not. :(
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