Silver this anti is giving me a headache, they're not even getting the main point, im gonna explode at this point
Seriously don't bother. You just cannot argue with Poly-phobic people. They don't get the basic concept of fanons either. Like if they're so much of an idiot to not even know the meaning of the term "individual interpretations" and "representation based interpretations" they're too dumb to be argued with. I read all the threads about them and they just seem like one of those assholes who think their view is the only view. And really I've argued with people like that about a different topic and there's really no point. Tell them to stuff their stupid views right back into their ass where they belong, stick a foot up in their mouth and shut up.
I mean you've had some serious issues even KNOWING what topic i was talking about in conversations you just butted in so at least now you know what I'm talking about lmfao.
i will preach herongraystairs supremacy till my pyre
They just loved each other so much. They were so in love with each other.
'My Tessa'
'My Jem'
They deserved to live a long and happy life together, all three of them. As a beautiful happy family.
Imagine a herongraystairs child, imagine how much love that child would be born out of and how much love they would receive in their life. (of course, a family need not have children to be considered a family)
If we weren't cowards and we weren't so stuck to our singular definition of love and family, maybe we could have seen that play out.
Of course, I understand why the narrative took the path it did and how it had a role to play in the bigger series. And I love the path it took, to some extent.
I am re-reading the Infernal Devices and I just had to get this out. In the mean time, anyone who comes across this, point me towards herongraystairs happily ever after AU fics/oneshots because my soul is starved.
And for anyone still unclear, I mean William Herondale, James Carstairs and Theresa Gray being a throuple and building a life together.
News flash 2: tessa was not a whore. She was so faithful to the point of canonically friendzoning jem that she never even mentioned her previous engagement to him all while she was married to Will. She also has respect for both of them not to be a selfish bitch and force them tow arch her fuck another man.
Newsflash 3: in case you're one of THOSE, will and jem are canonically straight and literally consider each brothers. This fetish of yours could NOT get any more sick.
Newsflash 4: you didn't read tid. Or at least you under stood nothing.
I feel like im doing the same thing as u here (that is gatekeeping my fav ship ) so here you " news flash #1" was downright poly-phobic and that CANONICALLY makes u a bad person whose opinions are not appreciated on a post where someone is just enjoying a book and perceiving it in a way they want.
... Go cry me a river about it then? Do i look like i care about some clearly unstable child's opinion? Who is CANONICALLY delusional, doesn't even know what hapoens in the books she uses as escapism of her shitty sad life? Like I'm sorry you're unable to be in a relationship or be enoigh for one person or whatever is going in with you babes
Oh call me a child and unstable all u want but my point still stands that ur poly-phobic and spreading hate when u (not being a child, which u surely seem quite proud of) have better things to do. Like its obvious u stalk the herongrastiars tag to start up drama and vent about how much u hate that ship,and 'oh no, they were brother, this is incest' like so were clace at a point, even jemma were parabatai's and both of those ships turned out fine in the end 🤷♀️ (not hating on clace and jemma btw ) just post about the thing u love girl, dont take ur anger out in the herongraystairs tag. Ppl go there to enjoy and then they see this shit ass opinion which was sooooo not asked for.
Not you talking about stalming when you've gone 3 years back on an acocunt to cry about reality.
And again, do i look like i care what you think? Like sorry you're favs are canonically monogamous? Go project somewhere else.. Or keeo crying in my notifications it's entertaining. Lile talking to larries. Sad but entertaining
She... Didn't. C jean mistook a fight scene for a swxy one so cc shared it as a joke. And she also shared a ll kinds of uncanon fan art that she does NOT ship. (in fact she called herongraystairs fans perverted and when tid was coming out she was freaked willxjem shippers) she also shared RaphaelxSimon art. One is canonically ace and the other straight, shared AlecxClary art and JacexSimin art. So, as usual you're lrovung yourself wrong here.
And i didn't even have to go into the thread if her outright BUTCHERING your ship teehee
i will preach herongraystairs supremacy till my pyre
They just loved each other so much. They were so in love with each other.
'My Tessa'
'My Jem'
They deserved to live a long and happy life together, all three of them. As a beautiful happy family.
Imagine a herongraystairs child, imagine how much love that child would be born out of and how much love they would receive in their life. (of course, a family need not have children to be considered a family)
If we weren't cowards and we weren't so stuck to our singular definition of love and family, maybe we could have seen that play out.
Of course, I understand why the narrative took the path it did and how it had a role to play in the bigger series. And I love the path it took, to some extent.
I am re-reading the Infernal Devices and I just had to get this out. In the mean time, anyone who comes across this, point me towards herongraystairs happily ever after AU fics/oneshots because my soul is starved.
And for anyone still unclear, I mean William Herondale, James Carstairs and Theresa Gray being a throuple and building a life together.
News flash 2: tessa was not a whore. She was so faithful to the point of canonically friendzoning jem that she never even mentioned her previous engagement to him all while she was married to Will. She also has respect for both of them not to be a selfish bitch and force them tow arch her fuck another man.
Newsflash 3: in case you're one of THOSE, will and jem are canonically straight and literally consider each brothers. This fetish of yours could NOT get any more sick.
Newsflash 4: you didn't read tid. Or at least you under stood nothing.
I feel like im doing the same thing as u here (that is gatekeeping my fav ship ) so here you " news flash #1" was downright poly-phobic and that CANONICALLY makes u a bad person whose opinions are not appreciated on a post where someone is just enjoying a book and perceiving it in a way they want.
... Go cry me a river about it then? Do i look like i care about some clearly unstable child's opinion? Who is CANONICALLY delusional, doesn't even know what hapoens in the books she uses as escapism of her shitty sad life? Like I'm sorry you're unable to be in a relationship or be enoigh for one person or whatever is going in with you babes
Babe you literally have no idea what canon is. So you're replies are just genuinely making me laugh right now.
It's hilarious you don't know that Will.... Wasn't actually there and it was Tessa and Jem's imagination... Guess you don't really know much about what was going on huh?
And will canonically hates the idea of tessa being with anyone else while he is ALIVE. you pointing out he'd be swlflessly happy she moved on AFTER he died is, as usual, completely off topic from poly shippers and psople who ship him with his brother. Please check context. You need help with it
The difference between the love triangle between Herongraystairs and whatever the fuck is going on with James, Cordelia and Matthew is that Tessa tore her heart into two to make sure Will and Jem aren't separated.
Tessa knows how much Will and Jem love each other from the very few months she'd been there and she never let the way she feels about them both ruin their relationship.
Cordelia has known Matthew and James longer (due to Lucie's letters) so she must know how close they are. And yet, she gives Matthew false hope by agreeing to run away with him and in doing so, made James get sorta mad at Matthew.
Cordelia is indirectly causing James and Matthew to have problems and Tessa has not once done that.
I just- this doesn't make sense at all and tlh went so far downhill when you compare it to tid
(ps pls don't hate, this is my opinion. I genuinely like the characters in tlh. I just don't like how they're written)
I will be hopeful first of all that this is not racially motivated.
Anyways,
Cordelia accepts Matthew's offer. HE offers it. He is a grown man with his own agency, she made it clear she has no feelings for himTessa literally makes out with both of them without telling either of them. Basically guilt trips them into accepting it later on "unintentially". Cordelia is loyal, direct, honest and actually communicates what is happening.
While Tessa, makes out with both of them within 24 hours, knowing their relationship with each other and how close they are and how hurt they would be, and they were, by her actions and yet she continued to do it. Knowing how good jem was to her, and yet she failed to mention all the times she was with Will, his own blood brother.
I feel I need to say this because a portion of the fandom thinks will and jem got off on tessa being with their brother; Knowing tessa canonically saw Will flinch at the mention of her being in love with jem, jem didn't want to even heaar about what her and Will did. Will wanted to come first in her heart. But the boys were so selfless and grew up being each other's only friend and brother that they loved the toher more than themselves so they never fought. It's NOT due to Tessa "tearing her heart in two", it's due to THEM, will and jem, and due to that the narrative never calls Tessa out.
I will assume you understand that in canon will, jem are brothers and that technically "herongraystairs" is not a thing, because this also clouds ppl and prevents them from objectively judging or even understanding what happened in tid in the actual canon rather than the fact that it's become a trend to ship all three, thus treading a way from what actually happened into an AU universe.
Cordelia doesn't intentionally hurt anyone. So I assume your argument is based on how cordelia is unintentially hurting them while tessa "didn't".
So my main disagreement is that no, tessa doesn't care any more than Cordelia does.
The true difference is Tessa never gets called out for her actions. And that Cordelia doesn't love Matthew and I will assume this is coming from a Mathew stan.
Tessa never intentionally hurt Will and Jem. She rejected Will because of Jem. She had no choice in the matter. AND Tessa herself has said that she tore her own heart into two for the two of them. The reason why herongraystairs have stuck together is because of the effort on all three of their parts.
I didn't say Tessa doesn't unintentionally hurt Will and Jem because she has done that and she has hurt herself in the process. I meant that Tessa never caused problems or fights between Will and Jem. Matthew and James's fight started while talking about Cordelia.
And Tessa never guilt trip them. Please tell me where you got that. I'm curious.
I don't think you fully understood tid if that's what you got from their story. Tid is about how much those three love each other and would do anything to see each other happy.
And I never said Cordelia doesn't care about them.
So to summarize, stop basing Tessa's character on her love interests, she's more than that. On that note, I wish cc would do the same with Cordelia because her entire character arc is focused on the love triangle only. I wanna see her grow
I have to say that 1. BOTH of tessa and cordelia characters are based on the love itnerest/love triangle. What does tessa do? Read? Cordelia has a sword and is a shadowhunter, tessa is a warlock. That's literally all the character de elopement either rif them have. That is Cassie's fault for writing her female characters that way. But in the end tessa is no better than Cordelia (in that department).
The guilt tripping is mentioned above👆🏽
2.tessa could have easily told jem about will, his brother, who just had his tongue down her throats a few minutes ago.and I dotn think making out with both of them behind each other's backs was exactly "out of her control". I never said tessa had a target to hurt them, but if you think cordelia by accepting Matthew's will full invite is hurting them, even tho unlike tessa she was clear, never juggled them or strung anyone along.
I'm 99% sure you ship herongraystairs as the crackship orgy I often see here, and probably ship will and jem too. So I think it's weird to assume that I don't understand tid. If I am wrong I apologize but if you've been in the fandom enough you will see that 99%of tessa apologists and "herongraystairs" fans are threesome crack fans and have no idea what actually went on in the books
3.jem and will don't fight because of tessa, because jem and will don't fight for anything their relationship is unrealistically selfless. And that is not the case for matthew and james.
1. Cordelia and Tessa are their own characters and don't need men to define who they are. Although, I agree with you on that that cc is the one who isn't writing them as their own characters.
2. Will literally asked her not to tell Jem about anything that happened in the library. Tessa was the one to stop the kiss because of Jem. Now, any choice anyone makes are hurting everyone or the ones in the love triangle. Cordelia leaves and in doing so caused James to have his Herondale angst™, Will's first confession etc etc. Neither have a fault in that so I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about it in the original post or if I didn't word it correctly
3. Matthew and James are parabatai. They aren't supposed to hide shit from each other nor are they supposed to be this inconsiderate to each other. This is none of the characters' fault, it's how they're written. And they're supposed to be selfless for each other. Its what parabatai are supposed to be.
And yes I like herongraystairs. And no, I think I understood the books pretty well. The main thing is about how much those three love each other and what they'd do for each other. It doesn't matter whether you ship them platonically or romantically, you can't deny what they have. And you say threesome as if they're all about sex but they're really not. They're soulmates and you can interpret that as you want to and I really don't care
Although you made had a good logic at first. That last bit kind of prove my point. It's the only reason ppl have these opinions.
If you think will and jem, two characters who in the books you say you understand, consider each other brothers, are sexually and romantically interested in each other. Then you got 0-10% out of the series. Literally if that was the case the whole point of tid would become nill
And if you think will, who flinched at the moment tessa said she loved jem, who called the jade necklace a "cruel reminder" who told tessa that if shearried jem she would be walking on the shards of his heart, or jem who asked tessa never to talk about what she did with will. Are cuckhold aka men who are ok/get off on their wife with another man. (because sex is part of romance dude, if you read tid you'd see Tessa's very valid sexual attraction and sex scenes and how it is a huge part of her relationship. Or tessa, who is so monogamous she said she can't bear the thought of Will ever loving another woman, who canon friendzoned jem just so that "heart is wholly Will's" when they got married, who said she never mentioned her previous engagement to jem out of respect for will, is interested in any way in a threesome(again yes, bc sex is part of the relationship unless any of the characters are asexual which they are not) if they were all together like in the crackship, they wouldn't sit around braiding each other's hair.
then you, again got nothing from the story. Literally you oppose the author. It can't get any further from the books than that.
The only reason will and jem were happy for each other in the end, is that they are 1.selfless as I shown before. 2.cassandra never has any character call out tessa as I said before. 3.they were actually only truly happy once the toher person no longer became an option. Like jem said "if I can't marry tessa then there is no one better" or something of that sort.
You got one point right. Yes the books are about how the three love each other. Tho the word soulmates is never mentioned. But platonic love and romantic love are completely different. Imagine if someone said alec and magnus love each other it doesn't matter if it's platonic or romantic? War would arise. So yes it is very different. You interpreted the word "brother" sexually. You interpreted "flinching" as cuckholding. And you missed the point that the whole conflict in the dramatic structure of tid was sacrifice and pain because will and jem are brother and because they each want to have a singular wife and "come first in her heart". If that was not the case there would literally be no tid in the first place.
I wont go into what cassandra said about herongraystairs, I think we all know the many many times she said they're straight and monogamous. But for the sake of this post: The books speak for themselves.
I didnt read half of that because u were just slandering tessa BUT
If u think a women should tell her current boyfriend about all the boys she's swapped spit with, then ur grandly wrong. Also if ur stating the point that she should because jem and will were super close, then ur also wrong because will continuosly hurted her feeling under the impression of the curse and IT WAS a POSITIVE rep. that cassie showed us that she was moving on to jem.
And as for will, it must've hurt his feeling when he found out about jem and tessa's engagement, but like what the frick, dude just insulted tessa mery months ago, didnt tell her he was in love with her, made a point of ignoring her, and U are blaming Tessa for finding another guy who treats her nice ??
Im not saying it was all will's fault (but it was the curse's, and untill it was revealed, everyone thought it was will's)
So all in all, tessa fell for a guy,but found some red flags and left him,fell for another guy who treated her right and then found out that her ex love was actually cursed but is now alright, so anyone in this situation will be confuse who to love,and as spreading love is important, why not love both of them ?? What's the prob in that ??
And I get ur problem with heronstairs being fetishized and stuff, but herongraystairs can still be in a poly relationship with will and jem just as parabatais, and many ppl like it that way, so pls dont spread unnecessary hate.
Hakf off what you tyoed was waaaaay off topic my good sis. Like i don't even think you know what we were arguing about.
Summary if you rolld around with your fiance's ebst friend and brother the sane day you do him, he desevres to know. I don't even know why you've been attacking Will, since no one was defending him ij particular as opposed, but she literally OWED jem to tell him. And if YOU think you can "swap spit" with two subkings ir best friends behind each other's back then again sis... You've not met people with morak standards because that's a shitty af behaviour. If Wjkl, who you clearly got an issue with, was in bed with Tessa's sister the same day as tessa and then got engsged ti tessa without telling her he would be a shitty person. Demanding it's ok he loves tessa and her sister while demanding tessa remains only his is hypocritical. Now reverse genders and that's what tessa did.
On the day of his birthday, Lucie gave her father a book inspired by him and her mom: their whole love story written by their daughter, years later. Will cried and said it was the best gift he ever got. Lucie Herondale is now (and since she was born) her father's favorite author.
You guys dont see how shitty it is to romanticism Tessa “too big for just one of you” and yet have both boys ONLY ever love her and be at her constant back and call? How selfish is Tessa if she thinks like that
Ok, I think ur taking it the wrong way, but the “too big for just one of u” meant that she could love both of them, not her flaunting it, like ohh look how big my heart is, I love everyone blah blah.
In 1800’s where the story takes place poly-relationships weren’t even a thing known about, so Tessa openly expressing and wanting to be with both of them by saying that, is actually a really brave thing.
Are u really calling tess selfish just because eshe wanted to be with ppl who she love ?? And like even will and jem (im sure) would have no problem with that.
1.will and Jem, CANONICALLY had a problem with that, before one of them became no longer an optio. I can think of a thousand quote, from will almost asking jem to keave tessa to will calling the necklace a cruel reminder to will saying that tssa marrying jem would be like walking on the shards of his heart.
2.canonicall pooy relationships existed and cassies words, as she herself has said multiple. Havign feelings for two people is not polyamory dear. Literally everyone was there at some point, especially ya heroines.
3. This is not even a tessa quote, like idk if you remember the books since you think it was a "brave thing to say" i was commenting in this person's intrepration. This was never ever a tessa quote.
4.i assume you ship will and jem. Which would mean you're one more person fetishizing mlm. Soecially ones that canonically consider each other brothers (and have been canonically stated as straight several times by the author and its clear in the books)
That is literally proof she didn’t love either Will or Jem enough. They bith deserved better. Since they wanted to come first in someone’s heart. You think feminism is having two men devote their entire life and hearts to you and yet neither of them is enough for your ass?
Sheesh chill, it reads “my heart is too big just for one of you” which means that there was enough space in her heart so that she could love both of them. And u said “since they both wanted to come first in someone’s heart”, lmao what ?? Like is it a race ?? They both loved her and she loved both of them Period.
And honestly not to be rude but ur sounding a bit poly-phobic. If thats a word.
But us saying heronstairs has potential IS NOT baseless, against logic or textual reference??? There are so many scenes where jem and will behave romantically,,,, it's so clear from their affection. U may say we are just desperate gays but u know the truth, if one of them was woman, people like you would've drooled over this ship
Umm actually no. And Here's why:
Canon
▪️First and foremost, Will and Jem consider and call each other brother every couple of lines. Even in their own heads. This -for most people - isn't an invitation for romance.
▪️Both have also never noticed each other sexually or romantically or took note of any man ever
▪️In fact the both only ever think (because we got to see their pov) romantically or sexually about women or consider only women as potential love interests
▪️Like Cassie explained once when asked why some ppl think heronstairs is romantic. It's because the language of the victorian era sounds romantic
▪️Antoher factor you need to take in their sexualities. If a gay man and a (gay) woman had "romantic behavior" - yet somehow considered each other siblings lol idek with you ppl - no one would ship them unless they were "desperate straights" aka none lol. This post is about explaining how it IS textually baseless but i felt i needed to add this.
Moreover,
I would like to give you a few examples of soem the romantic behavior some of you think you see in heronstairs.
Within tid
"Jem is my greatest sin".
Probably the most common heronstairs quote. Alone, this quote might sound romantic.
In reality this is actually a horrible quote. This quote is actually said from Will to Magnus. The. Cintext is Magnus wonder how Will who distance himself from all bond, familial lile his parents and sister, romantic and from all friemdship woupd be friends and parabatai with Jem. and Will says that it's because Jem was dying. He used Jem's impending death as an excuse ti be friends with him. Since Jem is going to die anyway Will figured his cure won't do much worse. And that's a horrible thing for Will to do. Will's greatest sin is using his best friends illness to endanger him to a curse.
"if there is a life after this one, let me meet you in it, James Carstairs"
I don't even know why I should explain this. And I don't think I should. If asked I will tho
“For five years it had been his absolute truth. Jem and Will. Will and Jem. Will Herondale lives, therefore Jem Carstairs lives also.”
I feel lile this should all be lsited under the use of victorian english. But to make you see it in prespective. Here is a direct quote from Will to Cecily his sister
“Then what am I?” Cecily asked.
Will exhaled, too exasperated to check himself. “You are my weakness.”
Betcha if this was a heronstairs quote you'd be having a field day. I mean this is pretty "romantic behavior" from Will and Cecily too I guess?
..................
After tid
Bane Chronicles, Whitechapel fiend. Jem covers Will with a blanket.
Again quote odd that some ppl think covering a sleeping person with a blamket is romantic behavior. I can assure you most siblings have done it, parents have done, freidns have done it. It's like sayinf hugging someone when they are crying is romantic.. It's part of the reason why the whole ship is funny at this point.
City of Lost Souls,
Ah, another famous one.
I have to say, that even if all of the above wasn't true. Usually if an "ambiguous" quote happens in a book amd right after the characters im their own heads describe each other as siblings that should be enough lol. Harry and Hermione except their sexualities wouldn't work
No matter how you may feel about cc. She knows what's canon because she created canon.
Here are a few of the times where she explicitly denied heronstairs as well as comfirmed Will and Jem's sexuality being, obviously, heterosexual.
I would also recommend checking this thread for many other times Cassie has debunked heronstairs here:
You might nitpick and say
"But like @sugardaddyjem said Cassie shared heronstairs art. She COMMISIONED IT"
Actually no. All gay heronstairs art was NOT commissioned by Casse. Heronstairs art was published by Cassandra Jean on her blog.
Here is where Cassandra Jean says it was not commissioned.
Hi, how are you? I've been wondering... are you posting more shadowhunter tarot cards? Hello! You had best ask Cassie Clare about that! He
Cassie shared SOME of the heronstairs art with captions like #AU #SLASH #awpoorWill ahah.
The only one Cassandra Clare commisiomed was a friendly garden chat in which Will and Jem talk and Will falls asleep, it was requested by fans when the made November tenth a heronstairs day.
Cassandra Clare also shared many other au art including one of Simon and Raphael. Who as we know Simon is straight and Raphael is asexual.
Extra debunks
Cassandra never said they would be poly in the after life or if they were all alive, as in gay polyamory lmaoooo. She said Tessa might give it a TRY and date both at the same time. In that same post cassie actually references an article about. Some women taking many men as lovers in the victorian era lol. How you feel about that is up to you.
But us saying heronstairs has potential IS NOT baseless, against logic or textual reference??? There are so many scenes where jem and will behave romantically,,,, it's so clear from their affection. U may say we are just desperate gays but u know the truth, if one of them was woman, people like you would've drooled over this ship
Umm actually no. And Here's why:
Canon
▪️First and foremost, Will and Jem consider and call each other brother every couple of lines. Even in their own heads. This -for most people - isn't an invitation for romance.
▪️Both have also never noticed each other sexually or romantically or took note of any man ever
▪️In fact the both only ever think (because we got to see their pov) romantically or sexually about women or consider only women as potential love interests
▪️Like Cassie explained once when asked why some ppl think heronstairs is romantic. It's because the language of the victorian era sounds romantic
▪️Antoher factor you need to take in their sexualities. If a gay man and a (gay) woman had "romantic behavior" - yet somehow considered each other siblings lol idek with you ppl - no one would ship them unless they were "desperate straights" aka none lol. This post is about explaining how it IS textually baseless but i felt i needed to add this.
Moreover,
I would like to give you a few examples of soem the romantic behavior some of you think you see in heronstairs.
Within tid
"Jem is my greatest sin".
Probably the most common heronstairs quote. Alone, this quote might sound romantic.
In reality this is actually a horrible quote. This quote is actually said from Will to Magnus. The. Cintext is Magnus wonder how Will who distance himself from all bond, familial lile his parents and sister, romantic and from all friemdship woupd be friends and parabatai with Jem. and Will says that it's because Jem was dying. He used Jem's impending death as an excuse ti be friends with him. Since Jem is going to die anyway Will figured his cure won't do much worse. And that's a horrible thing for Will to do. Will's greatest sin is using his best friends illness to endanger him to a curse.
"if there is a life after this one, let me meet you in it, James Carstairs"
I don't even know why I should explain this. And I don't think I should. If asked I will tho
“For five years it had been his absolute truth. Jem and Will. Will and Jem. Will Herondale lives, therefore Jem Carstairs lives also.”
I feel lile this should all be lsited under the use of victorian english. But to make you see it in prespective. Here is a direct quote from Will to Cecily his sister
“Then what am I?” Cecily asked.
Will exhaled, too exasperated to check himself. “You are my weakness.”
Betcha if this was a heronstairs quote you'd be having a field day. I mean this is pretty "romantic behavior" from Will and Cecily too I guess?
..................
After tid
Bane Chronicles, Whitechapel fiend. Jem covers Will with a blanket.
Again quote odd that some ppl think covering a sleeping person with a blamket is romantic behavior. I can assure you most siblings have done it, parents have done, freidns have done it. It's like sayinf hugging someone when they are crying is romantic.. It's part of the reason why the whole ship is funny at this point.
City of Lost Souls,
Ah, another famous one.
I have to say, that even if all of the above wasn't true. Usually if an "ambiguous" quote happens in a book amd right after the characters im their own heads describe each other as siblings that should be enough lol. Harry and Hermione except their sexualities wouldn't work
No matter how you may feel about cc. She knows what's canon because she created canon.
Here are a few of the times where she explicitly denied heronstairs as well as comfirmed Will and Jem's sexuality being, obviously, heterosexual.
I would also recommend checking this thread for many other times Cassie has debunked heronstairs here:
You might nitpick and say
"But like @sugardaddyjem said Cassie shared heronstairs art. She COMMISIONED IT"
Actually no. All gay heronstairs art was NOT commissioned by Casse. Heronstairs art was published by Cassandra Jean on her blog.
Here is where Cassandra Jean says it was not commissioned.
Hi, how are you? I've been wondering... are you posting more shadowhunter tarot cards? Hello! You had best ask Cassie Clare about that! He
Cassie shared SOME of the heronstairs art with captions like #AU #SLASH #awpoorWill ahah.
The only one Cassandra Clare commisiomed was a friendly garden chat in which Will and Jem talk and Will falls asleep, it was requested by fans when the made November tenth a heronstairs day.
Cassandra Clare also shared many other au art including one of Simon and Raphael. Who as we know Simon is straight and Raphael is asexual.
Extra debunks
Cassandra never said they would be poly in the after life or if they were all alive, as in gay polyamory lmaoooo. She said Tessa might give it a TRY and date both at the same time. In that same post cassie actually references an article about. Some women taking many men as lovers in the victorian era lol. How you feel about that is up to you.
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