Yeah, thereās a reason for that.
Itās called: antisemiticĀ caricature.
I donāt understand whatās Jewish about mother gothelā¦ she has a typical Disney face doesnāt she? Is it the curly hair..? I mean her nose and everything else seem normal?
Iām sorry, Iām just trying to figure it out, you donāt have to answer if you donāt want to.
dark curly hair - long hooked nose - darker complexion than the blond blue eyed heroine 9and really the rest of the cast - portrayed as greedy and evil.
Lisa Edelstein is Jewish. Ā As are Idina Menzel and Amy Winehouse, both of whom I have seen compared in looks to Gothel. Ā Gothelās design is a pretty clear caricature of ethnically Jewish women. Ā
This is a pretty good contrast between Rapunzel and Gothel. Ā Rapunzel has the ātypical Disney faceā:
Hereās a more close up look at her features.
The hooked nose becomes even more pronounced as she becomes āeviler.ā
If you wanted to claim that there was noting out of the ordinary for Disney animation when it came to Gothelās features, you would have to find at least one Disney princess or heroine with similar characteristics (long hooked nose and dark curly hair, etc).
But here is what we have is -
small noses that turn up at the end:
wide, flatter noses (though cheers to Disney for not putting button noses on their characters of color, although Esmereldaās clothing design deserves another essay on Rromani stereotypes and there are some major issues with Pocahontas as well)
And then a few misc noses (again, props for Jasmineās nose not being a button):
Apart from just the design of Gothel, thereās also the whole: āobviously āotherā (read Jewish) woman kidnaps the pretty blonde (read: gentile) kid to use her for ritualistic/magical purposesā
Like that right there on top of the aesthetic Jewish-coding is what pushed the antisemitic caricature over the top for me. Ā It harkens back to antisemitic blood libel that claimed that Jews stole gentile children for all manner of nefarious reasons. Even when Gothel is in āmotherā role to Rapunzel, sheās is shown as nagging and passive aggressive, both antisemitic stereotypes of Jewish women.
There is no one thing that makes her an antisemitic caricature, but the design, plus the storyline she plays out, plus her characterization cement the overall character as antisemitic. Ā
Jew-coding a villain is not in itself always antisemitic when there are also Jewish coded heroes. Rapunzel does not have that.
Having a villain steal a baby for magical/ritualistic reasons is not always antisemitic as long as the villain is not Jew-coded. Ā Rapunzel fails this as well.
Having a nagging and passive aggressive mother character is not antisemitic provided that she is not, again, coded as Jewish. Ā Rapunzel fails once again.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: @ariminak pointed out that some of my wording made it sound like Gothelās features onlyĀ stereotypically caricatured Ashkenazi women when in fact that is not the case. Ā I changed the language to remove that phrasing and make it clear that any ethnically Jewish women can be affected by this type of aesthetic trope. If you reblogged the old version, could you please delete it and reblog this one instead.
Spread this version so people recognize that this stuff harms all Jewish women.
omfg can yāall chill the fuck out, any race can be portrayed as hero or villain, itās a fucking kids movie not a political statement
So Iām guessing youāre white and a gentile. As such, youāve more than likely grown up looking at tv and movies and fairytales and seeing your face in those of the heroes.
Jewish people donāt get that. Ā When we are portrayed in live action, our characters are more often than not whitewashed and in other media, our features are used and caricaturized to create āevil lookingā villains.
You donāt see it because youāve been ingrained with the idea that āethnicā features are just āhow you make a character look evil.ā Ā You donāt look at Gothel and see your mother. Ā You donāt see yourself and your people. Ā You donāt see decades of propaganda aimed at fostering hate against you and ultimately seeking to destroy you. Ā
But seeing how you also seem to think that saying youāre not attracted to an entire race of people ISNāT racist, you really donāt get any say on any of this.
So really, you need to chill the fuck out and stop telling marginalized people to stop talking about the tools of our own marginalization.
Letās play a game I like to call: Movie Villain or Antisemitic Propaganda:
Many āevil witchā tropes were built on European antisemitic stereotypes, not just in appearance but in the storylines they play out as well. Greediness, stealing children, killing children, hunger for power, etc. Ā Every time a movie villain design uses stereotyped Jewish features to communicateĀ āevilnessā to an audience, they perpetuate the marginalization of the people they are using.Ā
One big issue I have is that Gothelās didnāt start out as the antisemitic caricature that made it to screen. Ā Much of the early concept art has a more dark romanticism feel. Ā
They changed the original design. Presumably to make Gothel moreĀ āotherā from the good characters in the movie. Ā At some point, a decision was made that dark curly hair and a hooked nose wound better convey their villain.
It really doesnāt matter if any of this was intentional, Iād actually bet that it wasnāt. Ā However, antisemitic tropes are so engrained in our societies that people like you, even when confronted with a step by step break down of what it is, feel comfortable thinking that thereās nothing wrong with it and mocking those calling it out as if we are overreacting.
You seem to have completely ignored the majority of my post. Ā It is the character design, plus the characterization, plus the story line that mirrors blood libel that makes Gothel an antisemitic character. Ā Itās not just about someone of a certain race or ethnicity being a villain. Ā Itās about how stereotypes of a certain ethnic group are understood asĀ āvillainousā due to villains being repeatedly coded as Jewish over decades of film and tv.
And contrary to your naive belief, all media is political to some extent. Every time a historically present minority is not included in film (ex: lily-white Harlem in Fantastical Beasts) or when a minority character is whitewashed, or when the āethnicā features of a minority are used almost universally to portray bad guys, it is a political and social issue. Ā When you never see yourselves as the people who play the hero or even see your people existing in a portrayal of a place where they should be, it is not benign.
Reblogging again for these additions.
