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i need you all to know that i am constantly rotating the question of second-gen versus third-gen versus fourth-gen shane in my mind. hashtag just asian diaspora things
anyway this is the first fandom i've been in where i genuinely feel like richard siken's crush would be an appropriate reference point but unfortunately we collectively blew our fandom wads on, like, johnlock or some shit
woke up today with visions of a socmed / sports blog / sbnation-style article fic tackling the question of "when does it stop being too early to talk about the curse of shane hollander?"
i cannot actually write this fic for numerous reasons but the version of it in my head is beautiful
me reading fanfiction: see now i just don't think this is realistic. i don't think shane hollander talks to other people about his life
fave subgenre of hr fanfiction is easily "while stranded in europe, shane and ilya build a domestic life together that is beautiful but also tragically fleeting"
the crown jewel of this headdress is obviously home economics but also shout out to this one where shane and ilya are stranded in paris by way of icelandic volcano eruption
fave subgenre of hr fanfiction is easily "while stranded in europe, shane and ilya build a domestic life together that is beautiful but also tragically fleeting"
i keep reading vegas subdrop fics, and they keep being not quite the thing i actually want, which is to say they all seem to presume that ilya can instantly discard all his hangups about emotional vulnerability in the name of providing better aftercare, in which case, how did we get to vegas in the first place. a paradox
psst. psst.
small ilya
small shane
that is all.
to this day, one of the sexiest things that i think happened in hr was when ilya got shane to beg, and then beg again ("you will have to do a better job than that") and when shane did, let him believe for a few seconds he'd get it. and then ilya said no anyway.
also something else about this scene that I think is so hot is their bet and the way ilya frames it.
he says, "then let's make a deal" (it's not a suggestion. shane's already said yes without needing to) and lays out what will happen if shane wins. "i will blow you, fuck you, whatever you want," he says calm and unbothered. he's laying it all out there! giving shane a chance to win some power here.
except he isn't. he isn't telling shane a single thing about how tonight's going to go.
because here's the thing: shane isn't winning mvp. that's just not happening. ilya won the cup and was (as far as I can tell) the winner of playoffs mvp. we've heard he's been on fire since they came back from the olympics. ilya and shane both know who's winning.
so no, there wont be any 'whatever you want' for shane tonight.
but what will it be then? when ilya wins mvp?
shane wants to know. so he pushes. still doesn't look ilya in the eyes but asks, shyly, "and if you win?"
he's asking 'so what's happening tonight? what are we gonna do, actually?' he dares to look up into ilya's eyes with those big brown bottom eyes
ilya doesn't answer. he just leans in for a kiss, and dominates that too (like usual). grabs his head, tilts it, manhandles him. and when they pull away, ilya gives him a few gentle slaps on his face, tells him good luck.
and when he walks out of that bathroom, shane still has no idea what's going to happen in ilya's hotel room that night. because ilya will win and they never negotiated the second half of the bet (the actual reality of what's going to happen).
ilya's giving shane the illusion of choice, in a way here. he's letting shane pretend there's a chance tonight will go wherever he wants. but it won't and they both know it.
it's just so fucking hot. and such a mean way to keep the power here, to make that dynamic felt.
hot.
people will really be out here like "the kudos to comment ratio in this fandom is so dire" and then you check and it's a 10:1 ratio
i don't even think shane wishes he were white (or not asian) really, he just wishes people weren't Weird about him being asian (you and me both buddy). in stark contrast to his feelings about being gay, which are of course a full five-alarm tire fire
tbh figure skating au shane has an appreciably different relationship to his asianness than canon shane just by virtue of Japan Loves Figure Skating
like i personally read shane as a third-gen kid without much tangible connection to his japanese heritage (by virtue of being third-gen and mixed and also . . . yuna in my mind was very much that stereotypical "scorns her mother's carefully crafted bento lunches and demands baloney sandwiches instead" child who always appears in award-winning short stories about Being An Immigrant. lmao). he is not really motivated to change that but also, because he spends so much time in white-dominated spaces like the hockey community, is never really presented with incentives to change that
imo canon shane primarily experiences his asianness in terms of the racism and othering he receives, which is not AS depressing to live as it sounds (he doesn't know about all the sweet sweet asian grocery snacks he's missing out on) but is still pretty depressing
but figure skating au shane attends competitions and ice shows in japan, and more broadly just. exists in a sport with a large asian (and specifically japanese) fanbase. because of japanese ice shows there is a literal financial incentive for him to court japanese fans. but more than that . . . while i don't think shane is the kind of person who feels any need to Connect To His Heritage, i also don't think he's the kind of person to look at other people (fans / show organizers / other skaters) attempting to connect to him via his heritage, particularly when he's an invited guest in their country, and go, "no i don't want this. i wish i was white actually."
tbh figure skating au shane has an appreciably different relationship to his asianness than canon shane just by virtue of Japan Loves Figure Skating
i think troy barrett should get to be happy i just don’t think that happiness should involve shane liking him
summer 2007. moscow.
(previously, on "the figure skating au")
ilya is 16, and on the cusp of his first senior season. by this point, the stipend he gets from the russian fed covers his training, and he's starting to pick up some smaller endorsements, and none of that has stopped him from hearing from his father about exactly how much grigori has sacrificed so that ilya can prance about on the ice in costumes. he doesn't say, so you had better be worth it, but he doesn't have to. ilya has not been worth it yet. his father was not happy about him losing the junior worlds title to that canadian boy. well, maybe this year will be the year.
ilya spends a lot of time that summer at the rink, or at the gym, or literally anywhere except at home. there is the heaviness of alexei's resentment -- his brother has just entered the police academy, and the muttered asides about how one of us has to have a real job are not something ilya is lowering himself to respond to -- and there are a set of new programs that he hates, and there is a training regime that can only be described as brutal. if his father and his coaches can agree on anything, it's that ilya needs more discipline.
in between all of this, there is sasha. sasha washed out of figure skating long ago -- having neither the talent nor the inclination to reach the competitive heights ilya is now at -- but he makes excuses to drop by the rink anyway, and barely seems to notice the undisguised contempt ilya's coaches aim at him. he chats casually to ilya in between ice sessions, and ilya lets him. they go to parties and to clubs, and sasha kisses him up in someone else's bedroom with vodka on his breath and a heavy bass booming through the walls, and ilya presses sasha up against the wall and kisses him back, harder. in another world, this would be the tragic teenage love affair of both their lives. as it is, sasha is a neat little summation of every bad decision ilya is allowing himself to make in an otherwise regimented life: the parties, the drinking, the cigarettes, the sex.
you're no fun, sasha pouts, when ilya refuses the little baggie of cocaine sasha has produced from god-knows-where. i have drug testing, ilya points out, and sasha rolls his eyes.
your season hasn't even started yet, he says, and ilya replies, idly, this kind of thing is why your skating career never went anywhere.
he's not entirely sure, himself, whether he means it to hurt, but either way sasha seems unbothered. he smirks, like ilya has paid him a compliment. oh, probably.
ilya gets his grand prix assignments late in the summer. they're sending him to skate america -- presumably they're hoping he'll finally put scott hunter out of his misery -- and to france. (he won't be meeting junior world champion shane hollander at either event, a thing which ilya carefully does not have any particular feelings about.) he didn't get the cup of russia, which would have been convenient, since the rink is barely twenty minutes from his house. possibly the federation thought they were doing him a favor, not putting him up against makarov, giving them both a better chance at qualifying for the finals. he isn't russia's top skater yet, after all.
ilya does not relay any portion of this reasoning to his father, who is predictably terse when he hears the news over breakfast. "typical," grigori says, with a soft scoff. "maybe if you spent more time working on your quad and less time fooling around with that idiot boy, they would want you in russia, hmm?"
"yes, father," ilya says, very evenly.
naturally, the first thing he does, when he finally gets a free minute, is invite himself over to sasha's. sasha doesn't know why ilya is upset about any of this ("i'm not upset," ilya insists, and thinks he is probably telling the truth), because going to france sounds much more enjoyable anyway.
"i'd definitely rather be in paris than this shithole, if you gave me a choice," sasha says derisively, and then his expression shifts into a wide, lazy grin. "hey, maybe if i ask nicely papa will let me tag along with you all, hmm?"
ilya snorts. "you know that's not going to happen," he says. because his father and his coaches may not know what's actually going on between him and sasha -- the response would be much more violent if anyone did -- but the fact remains that absolutely no one in ilya or sasha's life, including ilya himself, thinks their relationship is a good idea.
sasha's smirk is undimmed by the harsh intrusion of reality into their circle of two; ilya is halfway tempted to kiss it off his face. "no. i suppose not." he stretches lazily on the bed. "maybe in a couple of years, then. once you're grown-up and they've let out that collar around your neck a little."
"maybe," ilya says, letting the obvious dig go. he thinks about the season ahead -- america, france; the final in italy, maybe; europeans in croatia and world championships in sweden. the energy drink advertisement he has to shoot next week. the looming specter of vancouver. he looks deliberately away from sasha, out towards the street below, where an old man is leaning against a lamppost in the corner, smoking a cigarette. "probably not."
i like to say i don't care about scott hunter and the smoothie man and i 90% don't care about scott hunter and the smoothie man but i do find the three-year gap the show inserts in the timeline of their relationship really funny. you could put ANYTHING in there. they could have broken up they could keep having the same argument for three years they could have been isekai'd into a completely different genre of show. who cares. that's not the important thing. the important thing is, it's not time for ilya to come to the cottage yet
cannot believe these hockey podcast men are really out here calling shane awkward in the first thirty seconds of the show. i mean they're right but sirs that's a literal teenager and you are, again, a hockey podcast