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@downwithcisfandom
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So You Think I’m Joking. Well Guess what Jokes On You
Yes bc these four precious children dont accept and love everyone this is- i aM ASTONISHED
this reminded me i never finished the set
this is honestly the worst post ive ever seen i cant fucking believe you’re trying to turn innocent characters aimed to make children happy into this how fucked up do you have to be lmao
i KNEW i forgot something!
can’t tell if angry comments are serious or trolling. tumblr is a performance art piece
Literally incredible.
The sonic movie is looking good
i hope everyone is ready to celebrate International Down With Cis day on April 4th.
happy down with cis day everyone
@antihero-complex @logenzie
weve come so far
I'm down for trans girl mona but I can't really be down for a literal cat dating a human, it's a but creepy
You know, that’s completely fair.
I grew up on a steady diet of human-on-alien and human-on-mythical-creatures-like-mermaids-and-shit stories so I have no moral qualms with two sentient, sapient beings of different species entering a consensual relationship.
But like, it’s a totally fair squick, and Mona is.... much less humanoid than most sapient characters in media. I get the concern.
Do you even play real shin moogmi tnesei you tranny? Praise yhvh
I mean, I won’t lie, at the time this blog as active I had no idea what the fuck SMT was and had literally never heard of it.
But now, I am here to remind everyone that Morgana is a beautiful trans catgirl and Ann is her girlfriend.
All dogs r cisphobic #confirmed
Nice. I’ve never been a fan of dogs, but it’s good to know they have our backs.
that anon has some serious serious internalized transphobia they need to deal with :/ maybe you should give them some advice on that too? if they say things like "stupid tr*nny" about themselves im honestly worried about how they refer to other trans people.
You are right, but I don’t feel that this would be a good time to do that.
Acutely, that’s a person who is suffering greatly, who sees my presence as an attack, and who is under so much stress just from seeing that I exist, that they might kill themself.
In a situation like that, I think the best thing to do is encourage that person to find help, and to reassure them that if they block me, I won’t mind at all. I suspect no one has told them in a very long time that it’s okay to take themself away from this kind of stuff. They are under no obligation to keep being around it if it hurts them.
When they are no longer in a dangerous place emotionally/mentally, then they might be willing to face why they think of themself so poorly, and why things like this blog hurt them so much.
But when someone is in enough pain that they are putting themself at risk, learning has to take a back seat to reminding them that self care is okay, and that they deserve to feel well.
Trying to teach someone who is hurting like that is more likely to hurt them more.
God dammit. Why do blogs like this have to exist? I hate being a stupid tranny enough and then shit like this pops up and I hate myself even more. Fuck this. I wish I were dead.
I’m very sorry that you feel that way.
I encourage you to seek help with any friends or acquaintances you have who might be able to remind you why your life is valuable, both to yourself and to them.
I also encourage you, strongly, to block this blog if they content upsets you, and to be very liberal in blocking any content that makes you so uncomfortable that it causes suicidal impulses. You have no obligation to expose yourself to this kind of humour.
Whoever put this blog on your dashboard, I would suggest contacting them and telling them that this kind of content endangers you. If possible, they may accommodate you. If not, I recommend blocking that blog as well.
You do not have to put up with blogs like this. Using your block list freely is difficult at first, you may feel like you are being overly sensitive or that you are silencing voices you “owe” listening to.
But you are not being sensitive, you are protecting yourself, and you never owe anyone your time or attention.
cant believe cis people are real. they are alive.
where?
what is that country called… Sicily
(1/2) Is it infringing on trans-safe/trans-only/trans-inclusive spaces for me, as a cis person, to participate in jokes/memes about cisphobia? I originally thought of it as similar to a white person participating in white people jokes, but then I thought about how that is largely a way for POC to connect with each other, and that a white person participating too often would (and has) annoy me / feel like infringement on my space.
(2/2) However, I have never heard of anyone else feeling this way so in the case of a space that I am not a participant in (trans spaces as a cis person), I thought I would ask to understand the general consensus and whether or not I am overstepping. I hope this makes sense, and thank you for your time!
If I’m understanding your question correctly, I have to say, yes. I, personally, have never had a problem with cis people making Cisphobia Jokes, or white people making White People jokes, in my personal acquaintance. It’s often a reasonable part of my social exchanges with people in personal spaces.
But in a public space such as on tumblr, if you’re a cis person, I would really avoid making Cisphobia jokes. It’s not by any means the worst thing you can ever do, but it does often seem like you’re infringing on a space that isn’t yours, and that you haven’t been invited into. It’s definitely a similar feeling to seeing white bloggers make too many White People jokes without any other context.
It’s not horrible or anything, but it’s grating and it reduces my willingness to trust them because it suggests a sort of... carefree attitude, when taking care would be the more revolutionary action. That they can afford to be carefree when we can’t, if you know what I mean?
Obviously it’s different if you’re chatting with your friends and that’s a natural part of your socialization (that’s what I mean by ‘being invited into’), but in public, I would strictly advise against it.
how would cisphobia even be institutionalized
you outnumber us one hundred to one, i don’t have enough time to oppress a hundred cis people every day. ur gonna have to take turns oppressing yourselves, bc i sure as hell won’t
Cisphobe Georg, who lives in the back of the “down with cis” bus and oppresses 10000 cisgendereds a day, is an outlier and should not be counted
to be honest I think you should delete this blog. not because of Down With Cis (I love Down With Cis) but for your own safety. the people who sent those seem dangerous, and I'm scared for you.
Nonnie said to downwithcisfandom:I'm so sorry that people have been sending those things to you. Stay safe.
It does sound very threatening, I know.
However, I do want to point out that this is not my first experience with stalkers, violent threats, etc. In fact, I have actually had people come to my home with the stated into to commit acts of violence on my person as a result of tangling with people on the internet (specifically, in that case, it was bronies).
It turns out that, as a rule, most people who say these sorts of things will not ever follow through, and even among those who do, I have the dubious benefit of living in the United States and thus having A Lot Of Guns.
I also have the personal experience to know that if someone does threaten me, stalk me, harass me, and then show up at my home to follow through on those threats with more lasting violence, I have the willpower to point a gun at someone and inform them that if they do not leave they constitute a dire threat to my personhood and I am within my rights to kill them before they can kill me.
I wish I didn’t know that I’m capable of doing that, but unfortunately, we do not live in so kind a world.
So, no, for the time being, I will not delete this blog. But I thank you deeply for your concern. It’s good to know that even as there are people who make these threats, there are people who care, as well.
(Let’s see how long it takes before my past experiences with trauma end up on that receipts blog)
So, I’ve had to turn submissions off (not that anyone was really using them) because in amongst my 92 messages this morning were some Highly Inappropriate submits.
If you sent the:
Google maps screenshot of my former housing complex (where did you even get that address?)
The very poorly photoshopped copies of my selfies showing me bleeding from the eyes and throat
Rapidly flashing “seizure” gifs
Couple thousand word guro erotica
Please know that you’re the reason we as a society cannot have nice things.
Reconsider your motivations and actions, and also, don’t do that shit.
Fuck hiatus something horrible happened tonight i desperately need to know if anyone at all in the indiana area can take in two trans boys please message me
This is rebloggable and really urgent
I enjoy your verbage. What I don't understand is why do people question the ace/aro spectrum in the LGBT+ community. I'm new to the movement as a whole but I thought it was about accepting all walks of life. How can we leave out our ace/aro brethren?
This is an extremely complex question that people having this conversation have been asking for a long time. In fact, that question predates this particular conversation. It’s been a recurring topic since the earliest days of queer organization: who do we let in, who do we keep out, and why.
It is my belief- and no matter what you see on tumblr, this is in fact a very common belief- that people whose identities are rejected and abused under the prevailing forces of cisheterosexism are entitled to these spaces, this community, these conversations.
Without some degree of access to safety and each other, it would be impossible to start dismantling cisheterosexism at all. UNified action is the only effective action.
However, dismantling long standing social forces? It’s hard. it’s really hard. There is an overwhelming tendency to focus on symptoms, because they are more obviously solved, and ignore the causes.
In some cases, you have to do that. You can’t go up to an uninformed straight person and say “straightness as a social construct damages us all, but it especially damages people like me.” Straightness-as-a-social-concept is not at all a clear, easily traced thing.
But specific symptoms of cisheteronsexism? Those are identifiable, they are easily explained to others, and they can be attacked directly and acutely, without needing to unravel generations of cultural baggage.
And often times, those symptoms are very, very pressing indeed. After all, one symptom of cisheterosexism? The spread of AIDS. And there’s no denying that was- and still is, in many communities and regions- a horrific situation that needed to be addressed directly, quickly, aggressively.
But ignoring the cause doesn’t solve the problems for long. it just shifts them.
Still, attacking symptoms is easier, much, much easier. And, it’s much, much more rewarding. The eradication of the symptoms of cisheterosexism can help improve the livelihood of certain groups.
And from that improved livelihood of some, but not all, of us comes this problem. As some groups begin achieving slightly more acceptance from the cissexist, heterosexist in groups (colloquially, the straights), they receive increase social capital: better access to jobs, housing, human rights, less attacks of violence, better ability to respond to that violence through traditional channels, etc.
These groups, generally referred to as “LG” and meaning “cisgender lesbian and gay people who perform their romance/sexuality in manners that abide by heteronormative relationship models with the glaring exception of being same gender relationships,” are put into a very tenuous position. Straight people say, “you’re almost like us.”
And then, they say, “prove it.”
And how do you prove you’re like straight people?
By abusing queer people.
This is a transitory process that any outgroup being absorbed into an ingroup goes through. People we now perceive as white, german and irish immigrants in the US for example, achieved integration into whiteness by being overtly racist against “acceptable targets:” black people, primarily, but any racial minority less accepted than them worked well enough.
Cisgender gay and lesbian people are in that position today: they are being taunted by straight people with the promise of complete integration, if only they’ll prove- as a group- that they are worthy of “not being queer.”
The easiest way to do this is to be abusive towards other queer people.
And because the aro/ace-spec identities are relatively new, having only come into cohesive organized usage in the early nineties at best, aro/ace-spec people make the most appealing targets to abuse. Because the communities only recently began organizing under any title more specific than “queer” or just “not straight,” it is easy to pretend that aro and ace people are a new invention, and as a new invention, they must not have suffered under the forces of cisheterosexism the same way the rest of us “acceptable queer people” have done.
It’s a very tempting thing. Dismantling cisheterosexism requires a lot of grueling, thankless work. And it requires a lot of painful self analysis, too. Self analysis that people who have suffered immensely may not want to subject themselves to. It is reasonable to fear inflicting pain on yourself when you have already suffered immense pains.
And it’s easier to get those same gains of dismantling cisheterosexism by instead integrating into it.
Why destroy the system at great personal cost, when you can just join it, and get all the benefits without having to hurt anymore?
The answer, of course, is that other people, people who have trusted and allied with you, who have fought alongside and for you, are still going to hurt. And leaving them behind to suffer, when their contributions helped you achieve that integration in the first place, is an act of undeniable violence.
But many people who are so, so close to achieving a state of comfort that has been denied to them are unwilling to acknowledge that. many people even outside the lesbian and gay communities are also joining in on this, because it has worked well for the lesbian and gay communities so far. Abusing “unacceptable queer people” has proven beneficial to these groups, so members of other groups start joining in, under the faulty assumption that it will work similarly well for them too.
Ultimately all of this comes from a place of wanting to avoid abuse.
It’s a natural human response, I think, but that doesn’t make it any better. That doesn’t make it okay, at all.
But that does make it understandable, in a horrible, horrible way.
So, to most directly answer your questions, if there were any:
The exclusion of aro/ace people is a result of misdirected anger after generations of oppression and abuse
And yes, the queer community should be about accepting anyone whose fundamental self is threatened, abused, devalued, or destroyed under cisheterosexism, but unfortunately, reality rarely lives up to the ideal.
It's really, really unsettling to me how similar a lot of the ace/aro discourse is to the older discourse about whether bi/pan people should be included, or even further back on whether trans people should be included. As both aroace and trans, idk, it really feels like the same thing a second time, and I've heard multiple bi/pan people say that, too.
I’ve seen a lot of the arguments presented literally verbatim with the only change being “trans” or “bisexual” swapped out for “arohets” and “acehets” (and aroaces, but aroace is a much more common self identifier than arohet or acehet).
I mean people literally use the word “arohet” and “acehet” without stopping to think about how “bihet” has been used for years to denigrate and abuse bi/pan/polysexual/MGA people- to the extent that bihet doesn’t even set off my spellchecker! It’s just.
It’s fucked up.
And it really is the same rhetoric being used in a slightly different direction. It’s not even “similar,” it’s the exact arguments. There’s a reason I describe it as someone stabbing us in the back, then pulling the knife out and handing it to us: it’s the same weapon.
And validating these arguments’ usage against aro/ace-spec people now will only serve to validate their usage against bi/pan/polysexual/MGA people and trans/nonbinary/noncis people in the future.
The check is Discorse? I see the word everywhere.
Discourse broadly speaking means any conversation where the intent is to inform or exchange knowledge. On tumblr, it is often used both seriously and derisively, to refer to common topics of current politics.
For example, there’s Bernie Sanders Discourse, surrounding his merits as a candidate, and the fact that even if he’s the best major candidate available in the US he’s still running for US president: a position filled with murder, violence, and corruption both abroad and in the country, and presiding over a deeply, deeply broken system of racism, economic violence, etc.
This blog, tonight, is primarily overtaken with Aro/Ace-spec discourse, and the closely related SGA discourse: conversation with intent to inform (about historical patterns, social forces, and personal experiences), focusing on the “validity” of aro and ace spec identities as an independent form of queerness, and whether experiencing same gender attraction is a valid requirement for access to queer spaces and identities.