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Don’t tell people to respect their elders. Be an elder worth respecting.
They're coming soon. Maybe you should think twice about opening the door.
Thank you anon for the ominous and completely out of context message. Care to elaborate?
Is there a possibility that the government already know about us and we're just being watched? I heard the news that Idaho will be accepting hunters to kill wolves due to growing rates of number, they are planing to kill one thousand. Don't shift outside for a while. They are too many so US agreed to kill those.
PSA to wolf shifters, especially in and around Idaho, don't shift for a while. Don't attempt if you've been attempting and been unsuccessful.
As for the possibility question, always, which is why I've founded the @midnightflamealliance. I'm trying to bring shifters together so we can all be safe, together, from any struggles we may face. There's safety in numbers. However I'm not going to go spewing "the government is after us" because honestly, who knows? They could even be fully aware and not care one single bit that we exist. The only way to know is if someone became part of the government that would cover that, if it even exists in the first place, or if someone committed one of the biggest crimes against the country and hacked the system. I'm definitely not saying someone should do that. That statement is purely rhetoric.
Thank you for the warning about Idaho.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/05/21/npr-new-idaho-law-calls-for-killing-90-of-states-wolves
Here is a link to support the Idaho wolf killings. Be safe, guys.
Is there a possibility that the government already know about us and we're just being watched? I heard the news that Idaho will be accepting hunters to kill wolves due to growing rates of number, they are planing to kill one thousand. Don't shift outside for a while. They are too many so US agreed to kill those.
PSA to wolf shifters, especially in and around Idaho, don't shift for a while. Don't attempt if you've been attempting and been unsuccessful.
As for the possibility question, always, which is why I've founded the @midnightflamealliance. I'm trying to bring shifters together so we can all be safe, together, from any struggles we may face. There's safety in numbers. However I'm not going to go spewing "the government is after us" because honestly, who knows? They could even be fully aware and not care one single bit that we exist. The only way to know is if someone became part of the government that would cover that, if it even exists in the first place, or if someone committed one of the biggest crimes against the country and hacked the system. I'm definitely not saying someone should do that. That statement is purely rhetoric.
Thank you for the warning about Idaho.
Slight color changes are not indicative of a shift. There are many reasons as to why you might see a ‘different’ color. Most often this is due to lighting. For example If it’s sunny, natural light may make colors more warm toned. Even with basic white artificial light, it may be hard to tell the true color of something. The angle at which you look at things is also a factor. People from the ‘p-shifting community’ are always claiming they’ve shifted in one way or another. If you’re telling the truth you should show proof. Like the other anon said, how can people ever be expected to believe you when there is zero evidence backing your claims? Have you considered how harmful this can be to children learning about otherkin? Many have been taken in by cults, making them think if they just practice they too can transform. There are still people out there who think that the earth is flat despite they’re being pictures of the earth. The only “evidence” flat earth era have is that they cannot see the curvature of the earth. So clearly it must be impossible to prove the earth is round. But as we know, it’s impossible to see the curve of the earth due to our small size compared to the earth and how close we are to it. With an unobstructed view even it’s possible to see a fraction of the curve. I know you aren’t going to listen to what I have to say but you should consider the facts. Think of shifting as a science experiment, a hypothesis, rather than a fact of which it isn’t. Or until it can be proven. And if I’m being honest, you watch too much TV. No one is going to experiment you or hunt you. You are a human being. I do not doubt that you are otherkin but your physical body is human. If people were allowed to do so and kill freely then there would be anarchy. But there’s not. Of course there are criminals here and there, crime is present virtually everywhere. But you’re not going to have the government coming to your house because you *think* you grew a scale or your skin changed it’s tone slightly. And even if you were able to completely transform, biologically you are a human. Let’s say I take a ball of clay and I sculpt it into a coin. Maybe I paint it silver as well. I can’t just go to a store and pay for something with it. Does it look like a coin? Does it maybe feel like one? Certainly. But it’s not a coin. It’s clay and paint and it will always be that no matter what form it takes. Do you think trans people get experimented on just because they identify as the opposite gender? No of course not. And neither do otherkin of any kind. There has not been ONE otherkin that has ever been captured or hunted because of what they identified as. Any people that claim someone is a hunter is clearly a child who’s been manipulated into believing in them or an adult who’s trying to pass on those false claims. You’d really have to be extremely paranoid to believe in such a thing. You may as well believe in the boogey man or bigfoot. Honestly unicorns are more likely to exist than otherkin hunters.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. I definitely do think that shifting should be seen as a science to be studied, and I'm majoring in biology to study just that. On the biological level, our cells undergo a lot of changes- shifts, if you will- just being a part of our bodies. Stem cells, for example, transform and become whatever cell is needed in the body when they're needed. Stem cells are our microscopic shape shifters in everybody. Production of things like hair are regulated by hormones in your body, which is why men tend to have more body hair; it's regulated by testosterone. This works by telling a cell to activate and read a certain portion of the DNA in your cells that cause hair growth.
Now let's talk about scales for a second: scales are made of keratin. The skin on your body is keratinized skin, meaning it produces keratin. This is what makes your skin waterproof. Among the dragon shifters I've met, we all have a skin condition called keratosis pilaris, which is an excess of keratin in our skin that collects around hair follicles. I have a hypothesis that I intend to study and test empirically, but don't yet have the equipment to do so, that there is a connection between shifters that produce scales and keratosis pilaris.
As you can see, there is preliminary evidence to support this hypothesis, even though it's not yet been thoroughly studied. And this is how all science starts out. There's something that exists that suggests something, and it gets studied, repeatable experiments are performed, and the hypothesis becomes accepted as fact. I'm not approaching this like a conspiracy theorist, I've long wanted to study shifting empirically and develop factual evidence to provide to the public. As a personal rule, I would not ask anyone to do or endure anything that I wouldn't do or endure myself, and all studies would be done safely and humanely.
As for my skin color change, this is what's called anecdotal evidence. I wouldn't have claimed this as fact if I didn't see such changes in artificial lighting that I have seen my skin in many times before, and only sometimes have I seen it a different color. At these times, I've felt particularly like I was going to shift or like a shift was starting. While anecdotal evidence is considered impermissible in most situations, it can provide the basis for further studying and experimentation to figure out why it happens.
Also, I don't think otherkin are shifters. In my eyes, otherkin and shifters are different. You can be a shifter and be otherkin for a creature other than that which you transform into, but not every otherkin can shift. It is dangerous to spread information that suggests that, and I agree with those statements.
Let me rephrase the privacy topic and lack of evidence. There is a correct way to reveal the existence of shifters to the public. If done correctly, things will likely go the best way that they can, with the least amount of abuse of the information as possible. However, you have to recognize that even with mundane issues, such as racism and homophobia, people who are people and nothing more are being killed, arrested, abused, and otherwise mistreated in 2021. Shifters can logically expect the same, if not worse, because it would be much easier for people to call us less than human. These are real threats to the community, whether you think so or not. You cannot deny the violations of human rights in our modern world. Again, I won't deny the improvements within the past hundred years, but we're still far from perfect. So yes, we fear for our lives and safety of our identities are revealed and things are revealed to be true.
Posting anonymously online helps us find others like us and build a community, and yes we're aware of hackers and how easy it is to find your identity, but most people are going to see us as liars as you and the other 10 anons in my inbox have.
I have always and will always respect skepticism. I understand that it's difficult to believe something as truth with no evidence. But understanding that most shifters dont have the means to collect evidence, don't have the knowledge to explain it in a factual manner, or don't have the resources to study themselves and provide sufficient evidence can help you understand that it's not so easy to give you the evidence you require to quell your skepticism.
To the other anons, your asks may have been answered here as well. I appreciate the anons who are at least somewhat respectful in their requests for more information and seem receptive to the idea of a response that may sufficiently rebuttal some of their claims.
You...do realize your DNA can be tested without killing or harming you right? There are ways of analyzing and such without harming people. This isn’t the 1800s. It could be from saliva, hair, feces, urine, and yes blood. And no I don’t mean buckets of it. I mean like a small shot which is not going to harm you. The way you talk is so.. ‘tinfoil hat’-y. If you want to spread awareness you might wanna work on actually making yourself believable by proving it. Show your evidence. Can you really blame people when they don’t believe you or worse despise you? No one will believe you when you said “oh yeah I turned into a dragon last night” but have no proof of so. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
9 times out of 10 the people who believe in p-shifting and say they have done it or witnessed someone else are either in a cult or they’re the cult leader. And if they aren’t they’re just holding onto a wish that’s unfortunately never going to come to fruition.
So if shifting is truly reall, prove me wrong. Prove the whole damn world wrong and show people that something incredible and magical is possible. But if you seriously can’t, just give it up. This is a waste of time.
I'd like to think that people will choose the path that you lay out here, where instead of abuse they choose the humane way, but unfortunately there is not certainty that would be the fate we receive. I'm also open about my lack of having fully shifted yet, however I've experienced partial shifts, but the most outward appearing evidence that's shown is slight color change of my skin that doesn't sufficiently show on camera. You're justified in your disbelief, and I respect your desire for evidence.
I'm not trying to be "tin-hatty" as you put it. The fear that humanity will choose a less humane way of learning to use us for their benefit is a very real threat. There are still many powerful people who would choose this fate for us. It's easy to see only the good, and yes our world has improved a lot in the past 200 years, but the reality is it's not perfect. The threat is still very real, which is the biggest reason you see no solid evidence of shifting on blogs, most nonhumans don't show their face, etc. I wish it were easier, I wish there were no reason to fear, but it's easy for people like you who don't have an inkling of fear every time they post to imagine there isn't.
I'm sorry I can't show you the evidence you desire. But who knows, maybe things will be revealed someday. Maybe things will go better than we fear, but there are no guarantees.
I have two other anons that part this response also corresponds to.
You...do realize your DNA can be tested without killing or harming you right? There are ways of analyzing and such without harming people. This isn’t the 1800s. It could be from saliva, hair, feces, urine, and yes blood. And no I don’t mean buckets of it. I mean like a small shot which is not going to harm you. The way you talk is so.. ‘tinfoil hat’-y. If you want to spread awareness you might wanna work on actually making yourself believable by proving it. Show your evidence. Can you really blame people when they don’t believe you or worse despise you? No one will believe you when you said “oh yeah I turned into a dragon last night” but have no proof of so. Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
9 times out of 10 the people who believe in p-shifting and say they have done it or witnessed someone else are either in a cult or they’re the cult leader. And if they aren’t they’re just holding onto a wish that’s unfortunately never going to come to fruition.
So if shifting is truly reall, prove me wrong. Prove the whole damn world wrong and show people that something incredible and magical is possible. But if you seriously can’t, just give it up. This is a waste of time.
I'd like to think that people will choose the path that you lay out here, where instead of abuse they choose the humane way, but unfortunately there is not certainty that would be the fate we receive. I'm also open about my lack of having fully shifted yet, however I've experienced partial shifts, but the most outward appearing evidence that's shown is slight color change of my skin that doesn't sufficiently show on camera. You're justified in your disbelief, and I respect your desire for evidence.
I'm not trying to be "tin-hatty" as you put it. The fear that humanity will choose a less humane way of learning to use us for their benefit is a very real threat. There are still many powerful people who would choose this fate for us. It's easy to see only the good, and yes our world has improved a lot in the past 200 years, but the reality is it's not perfect. The threat is still very real, which is the biggest reason you see no solid evidence of shifting on blogs, most nonhumans don't show their face, etc. I wish it were easier, I wish there were no reason to fear, but it's easy for people like you who don't have an inkling of fear every time they post to imagine there isn't.
I'm sorry I can't show you the evidence you desire. But who knows, maybe things will be revealed someday. Maybe things will go better than we fear, but there are no guarantees.
Abuse is abuse; whether it comes from a person that thinks they care, or from a person that couldn’t care less.
That's a shame then. Your DNA could be used to help millions of people with medical conditions and save lives. You wouldn't be attacked or hunted down for that. You'd have an opportunity to help the world be a better place and will be remembered for your bravery and efforts
Tell that to the animals that went extinct. What about sharks who are being mutilated and thrown back into the ocean left to die slowly because their fins supposedly have healing properties or the bears in China who are kept in cages too small for them to move in for their "healing bile" or whales who have been hunted to endangerment because of their oils being used as a medical remedy. Because that's exactly how it would turn out.
It's a nice sentiment, but she's right. Humans would sooner cage us or kill us because you get more DNA out of us if you take it all at once. It's easy to think people will be ethical about such things, but if you follow the patterns of the past, it just doesn't happen that way and it sucks. That's why we stay anonymous, don't send our DNA for testing, and don't share evidence publicly online. We'd be hunted for being different. For being "other." No one likes the "other."
Pardon my misunderstanding, but a war against whom, exactly?
I'm assuming this is a response to the previous predictions regarding the dark matter hurricane stuff, and the answer to that is that most people predicted a war against humans for our rights as non-humans. However, this is seeming less likely as we go on. I've always remained prepared but skeptical, and never encouraged anyone to act too soon, but to only pe prepared to act if needed, because predictions aren't always accurate. It's important to retain a healthy level of skepticism in these things. There are plenty of people I know who would've acted too soon if I hadn't encouraged them to be patient and wait for "things to hit the fan." I'm glad that I did, seeing how this last year has gone. I know I steered away from your original question, but I hope I at least answered it in the first half.
What sort of changes have you noticed thus far in regards to them reflecting the predictions? Also, do you mind if I ask the origin of your source(s)?
My sources are honestly the visions of everyone I've spoken to who gets them and shares them with me. The changes regarding the timeline of the visions is only that what we thought would happen didn't happen exactly. We thought something was going o happen Spring of 2020, and something big DID happen; the entire would shut down due to covid-19. It's not what we thought would happen, but something happened. Last fall I had a few friends fearing January of this year, and while what they predicted never happened (a few people had visions that the sky was red with flames and one person specifically saw the white house backed by a red sky), something happened: people raided the Whitehouse. Visions have long been known to be symbolic, to maybe we all just got a little too scared that these visions were literal. That's not to say something more specifically similar to the visions that something major would happen regarding shifters won't happen, or at least wouldn't be possible to happen, but it is to say that those visions still can't be totally discredited. I know word of mouth isn't a lot to go on, but there were at least ten different people who I spoke to and who gave me their accounts of their visions. Not only is that a lot of people to list, but I also fear violating their privacy by sharing their names. You're valid in your skepticism though! Thank you for asking!
so what's goin on with the whole war thing? nothing involving nonhumans has happened, like, at all.
You're right about that, but things have happened in the mundane world that reflect the timeline we all anticipated. I don't know what will happen, what will be accurate and what won't, so I'm continuing with my life but keeping an eye on world events, as honestly everyone should. We're in unprecedented times, and things are crazy and are going to continue to be crazy. Just keep your guard up for anything, and be prepared for the future, whatever it may hold.
I wanted to let you know that from 2010 until 2019, I was in a cult that predominantly focused on physical shifting, built around the narcissism and manipulations of the “alpha”, who recruited anyone looking for answers and especially focused on recruiting children l. This alpha started an entire community around information and myths she twisted into supporting her narrative, and would bully anyone, even doxxing them. The worst of it? She’s a cop. She has the power for that. And for those ten years I really believed that I was a physical shifting werewolf until her beta - her beta of FIFTEEN years, told me that she and the leader never shifted. It was all just a power fantasy and waiting for magic to occur, magic that hasn’t ever been possible in our lifetime. I believe that at one point there were shifters, back when magic was far stronger than it is now, but I waited my entire childhood and adulthood for a shift that wouldn’t come. I got bullied in school for not realizing I was in a cult, I lost relationships, I even had to move because of it. I didn’t even realize the leader was batshit insane until she tried to tell me that she’s a “decedent of the goddess Selene and also was the wolf who built Rome”. I tell anyone who identifies as shifters this story, because I want people to get out of any possible cults, of any possible teachings by shifter cults and people in them. Pls get out when you can, and not when it’s almost too late
I know exactly who you're talking about, and won't hesitate to tell everyone that this person gives shifters a bad name.
Do not listen to SheAngel / TrollQueen.
Those are her two main usernames, and I've seen nothing but toxicity from her and anyone to do with her, and this only confirms it. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt, and if she sees this then she can confirm for herself that I have tried to respect her and give her that benefit in the past, but I won't support or respect a situation like this.
Anon, I'm sorry you had to go through that. From what I've seen, a lot of the people in her community believe they're a shifter but most of them never have been and never will be. It's an ability you're born with, and I did "join" her community for some time to see what she was telling people, and it just made me sad. The amount of people spreading falsities as truth was just insane to me. I'm careful in what information I share publicly, but anyone is always free to dm me and I will give you all the information you request. If I share all of it publicly and share all of my personal experiences, it will only make it easier for more fakes to pop up and do EXACTLY what is so toxic to our community.
This kind of situation kills me, especially being a leader among the community myself. It literally pains me when I see situations like yours, Anon. Someone who has been lied to and gone through even remotely what you have..
I wish you the best in life, and hope the rest of it is wonderful. I thank you for your selflessness in sending this ask, and I only hope that others can get out from under her shadow as you have.
I wanted to share this as well. I'm sorry you had to deal with her harassment. Because at one point I did too. I was actually a minor at the time as well. Ngl it's nice to know she was in fact wrong. Ik she had a cult from the beginning because they harassed me as well and I'm glad ppl are actually seeing her for what she is. She's is a horrible person. She shouldn't even be a cop.
Listen you can hate me all you want, but I’m actually a friend to the shifter community, if you don’t like me anymore, it’s fine. But I’m a friend to all and I hate how much hate the shifter community gets. I don’t believe the whole humans are the only distinct intelligent species. I believe these people can stop getting backlash if we just learn to accept them for who they are. I mean, people spiritually indenify as wolves, why is that so drastically different from shifters, we can have our own beliefs and thoughts but we must learn to respect them.
Physical shifters do not belong in the community because its a cult.
The alphas manipulate young newcomers who dont know anything and use them for their own benefit. They tell them ‘You can become a wolf if you just try hard enough! You just gotta try!’ And, well, you cant, because its not scientifically possible.
Phantom shifters? Cool. Im one of them. Mental shifters? Thats cool too.
But physical shifters are either members of a cult or the ones who started them. I get accepting people even if you dont understand it fully, but physical shifters cant be trusted.
@scarsmood has more infomation on the subject if they’re willing to talk about it.
I see the shifter community and the otherkin communities as closely related, but ultimately separated. And most shifters who are worth a damn would tell you that physical shifting is not something just anyone can accomplish. It's an ability you're born with, not one that can be learned by just anyone. I have never and will never take advantage of young minds, and I don't associate myself with those who I know do or have. I understand your input, @wolf-from-the-crypt, because that view of physical shifters is created by people like SheAngel/TrollQueen. She's the kind of person you're talking about, the kind of alpha that gives all physical shifters a bad name. However, the quiet majority does not agree with people like her. The reason we don't often speak out about it is because of people like her and the power they hold to shoot us down without question. It's a tough community to be a part of, and I hate the toxicity it carries in most people's views. My goal, the one I'm trying to achieve with the @midnightflamealliance, is to shed new light on the community and share the truth about physical shifting. I want to bring the community together to remove people like her from power. Many of the people in her influence very well could be real shifters, but don't have the right community to back them up to be who they are. I'm building a community of mutual support, self-discovery, and individuality. I am a firm believer that no one should *tell you* what you are, and it should be something you discover for yourself, and if you have the support of others with similar experiences then that's even better. You don't have to believe anything that I say, no one does. But if you choose to, the Alliance is always open to new members. It's not a pack, but rather an Alliance of sovereign people and packs who hold their own power over themselves and yet still opt for a greater community and mutual ties between each other. You can either dm me or dm @midnightflamealliance if you're interested. Furthermore, if you have any questions, respond to this post and I'll be happy to oblige.
I wanted to let you know that from 2010 until 2019, I was in a cult that predominantly focused on physical shifting, built around the narcissism and manipulations of the “alpha”, who recruited anyone looking for answers and especially focused on recruiting children l. This alpha started an entire community around information and myths she twisted into supporting her narrative, and would bully anyone, even doxxing them. The worst of it? She’s a cop. She has the power for that. And for those ten years I really believed that I was a physical shifting werewolf until her beta - her beta of FIFTEEN years, told me that she and the leader never shifted. It was all just a power fantasy and waiting for magic to occur, magic that hasn’t ever been possible in our lifetime. I believe that at one point there were shifters, back when magic was far stronger than it is now, but I waited my entire childhood and adulthood for a shift that wouldn’t come. I got bullied in school for not realizing I was in a cult, I lost relationships, I even had to move because of it. I didn’t even realize the leader was batshit insane until she tried to tell me that she’s a “decedent of the goddess Selene and also was the wolf who built Rome”. I tell anyone who identifies as shifters this story, because I want people to get out of any possible cults, of any possible teachings by shifter cults and people in them. Pls get out when you can, and not when it’s almost too late
I know exactly who you're talking about, and won't hesitate to tell everyone that this person gives shifters a bad name.
Do not listen to SheAngel / TrollQueen.
Those are her two main usernames, and I've seen nothing but toxicity from her and anyone to do with her, and this only confirms it. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt, and if she sees this then she can confirm for herself that I have tried to respect her and give her that benefit in the past, but I won't support or respect a situation like this.
Anon, I'm sorry you had to go through that. From what I've seen, a lot of the people in her community believe they're a shifter but most of them never have been and never will be. It's an ability you're born with, and I did "join" her community for some time to see what she was telling people, and it just made me sad. The amount of people spreading falsities as truth was just insane to me. I'm careful in what information I share publicly, but anyone is always free to dm me and I will give you all the information you request. If I share all of it publicly and share all of my personal experiences, it will only make it easier for more fakes to pop up and do EXACTLY what is so toxic to our community.
This kind of situation kills me, especially being a leader among the community myself. It literally pains me when I see situations like yours, Anon. Someone who has been lied to and gone through even remotely what you have..
I wish you the best in life, and hope the rest of it is wonderful. I thank you for your selflessness in sending this ask, and I only hope that others can get out from under her shadow as you have.
Here's some pictures of my brat, Leroy, since it seems like today is the day to submit pet pics
Leroy looks like he gets into trouble and I respect that.
There’s probably a stranger out there that remembers you just because you were nice to them when they had a bad day
