holding the mic out to you....whatare your thoughts on flowery and his relationship to asgore if you have them :) personally i didnt like him much at first but after stewing on the chapter for a few days it was like. Oh this guy is gutwrenchingly homosexual for a man who doesn't really give a shit about him in the only state where he can love asgore as he wants to (darkner)
oh i love it. it's one of the things that really made flowery click as a character for me because it's the area where he fails the most spectacularly. it's also great because he spends so much time messing with ralsei about their own issues while he's exactly the same way towards asgore but somehow doesnt clock it. "noooo but the lightner I worship to the point of it being really invasive and annoying loves me back for real and me basing my entire existence around pleasing him is a good thing because he deserves it." i love it when characters are really smart about other people but stupid about themselves (relatable).
another thing flowery has in common with ralsei is that he tiptoes on some weird boundaries re: what he represents and is trying to be for asgore, though maybe in a way thats more easily glossed over. yes he is clearly evoking/trying to replace both toriel and rudy, and his interest in asgore is definitely romantic, but he's also definitely jacking aspects/roles from asriel and kris too. a lot of his planned activities together are things that asgore specifically misses doing with his children, next to the obvious facts that he's named/modeled after flowey and is also, yknow, claiming to be human. he does at least encourage the other flowers to try and fill in the role of "asgore's child", which makes me think he might not be totally aware of the fact that he's doing that too. like of course he doesnt want you, man, that's weird.
and yeah i think most of us despised his ass from minute one lol, as ive said it also took me several days to warm up to him. now i really like him and im furious about that. toby keeps making characters that look/sound like the Dumbest Thing Ever to anyone who hasnt played the game and then tricking you into falling in love with them. rude.
