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/ Opinion on huntlow and long ramble about nothing cause theres something wrong w me and i have no one else to share this with /
Disclaimer that if you like the ship thats fine! theyre cute :D this may not be the post for you, but its not super negative or meant to be hate, just my opinion and i like character analysis. i just have to get some stuff off my chest since ive been rewatching the owl house all at once.
All this to prepare to say I kind of never enjoyed huntlow, although ive tried, and im not interested to see if they possibly have a relationship in the upcoming gn. It narratively falls flat, and i see the characters as stronger from seperate growth.
I know a majority of my personal qualms with huntlow are because season 3 was cut short and it didnt have time to develop, but with that being the case, I felt "why hint at it anyway?" If i had never seen the owl house, i wouldve expected a lot more of their relationship with how much its praised. But from a character standpoint, the ship feels sudden and out of character. On paper, they check the boxes to be appealing to me, sweet girl x bad (but sad) boy turns out to be strong girl x anxious guy. But, i believe their individual focus becomes more unbalanced/apparent when you try and place them into a relationship, and even watered down to the tropes they fall into.
Luz is the protagonist throughout the show, and eda, amity, king, hunter, and raine are its major secondary characters. Willow and Gus are Luz' best friends and have their seperate but similar arcs, although subtle.
I would say hunter becomes a deurotagonist in seasons 2 and 3, a majority of the show. Because of this, we see up close his struggles with abuse, lack of familial love, his identity not being his own, being powerless, his sense of growing morality, and even death. To not make this post too long, Im going to brush over him broadly, since that would be retelling the whole show atp.
Leading up to s3 , he clearly is set up for a moral fixing. From his first appearance hunter is shown to be a key player in the story, as arrogant initially, but arguably the most traumatized, and sympathetic. He slowly opens himself up, mostly thanks to flapjack (fly high, the unconditional love of a pet), Luz, his friends ,including willow ofc, but notably: himself. He is shown constantly ruminating over his usefulness, only to find out he is literally a tool made to serve a purpose. Eventually he has no choice than to hide from his murderous uncle. This discovery is major, and forces him to leave the emporors coven. Whats important and makes this change not abrupt is that the set up had always been there: that he was already internally fighting with himself/the truth, and Belos' ideologies.
Wilows struggles are more grounded from her being constantly bullied for years. This gets the most focus in her mind, of course. She does still struggle with it, but instead focuses on wanting to protect others. "Others" mainly being Gus and Luz. She is clearly caring, possibly feeling that this is her role from protecting herself and her only friend for years (gus). But this is just speculation, because her motivation to seemingly protect others kind of outweighs her more relevant issues with self love imo
The two issues often go hand in hand, but this focus on support and even leading seems a little sudden on my rewatch. Im not trying to downplay their importance at all! I relate to willow probably the most of anyone in the show. Willow and Gus have always been important, steadily dropping their support for Luz and offering advice, with Willow being the most level headed of the trio. She is also magically gifted with plant magic and physically protects her friends this way. Despite this, i dont think she had enough development/time to show how much she supported others emotionally MORESO than the rest of the cast.
I think she had a sudden spike in noticable confidence when she started the flyer derby team. Although her confidence was shown to slowly be growing, it was mostly behind the scenes, told but not shown. So while it was logically understood, there was a disconnect in Willows character. This is only more aparent in season 3 where she feels burdened by being an emotional backbone. As I said, her support and reliableness are THERE, but they are not shown/put into action as they are spoken out in dialogue.
That is until hunter comforts her.
This is where i feel the story beats may have focused on hunter x willow instead of hunter & willow. In the instances I mentioned, Hunter is there to 1. experience the world outside of the palace/ gain interest in it and others (willow) or 2. to comfort and save willow.
In my opinion, hunters presence and growth as a main character inadvertently caused willow to get a shift of her own. Rather than their interactions seeming natural, I felt that they ended up driven by forced conflict. Like they were trying to make the two characters say "we are similar."
Which can be great, that is what relationships should be, you relate and grow together. take of the century i know. Instead of the change happening gradually for themselves however, it felt a bit clunky and like it was there with the intention of sparking something (powers/love/friendship) in hunter esp. It comes across as a relationship for the sake of a relationship or predictable. This isnt always a bad thing, but i think it would have been much more interesting and impactful to see gus or Luz appreciate willow for example. Wayyy more amity interactions outside of their shared friendship with Luz would have strengthened her seperate arc to make it feel more whole. And hunter to develop-or imply to develop-more of a circle his age outside and without the main cast before jumping into a relationship as a bandaid or fix-all. Reminder that he's had the least average life and childhood out of the teen cast.
We do miss a lot of time with the cast because of the s3 cut, but I think there could have been more insight into their journeys separately. Toh was a kids show ofc so im not expecting them to detail the complexities of each characters trauma and how long it truly takes to grow around it. Politely, i couldnt think of why the two would be together outside of their similar struggles, which even then was intentional to hint at a relationship. The writters are entitled to their shipping fanservice with the audience of majority teens in mind. But for a show exploring the value of support systems and found family, I think its interesting to think about. I hardly see people mention/ critique it because its so sugary sweet.
Side ramble: i also I wonder what people think about this cause also from what ive seen a lot of people see it as canon as well. Which it kind of is/ also isnt? It sits in a grey area if we want to get technical, where the Dana Terrace ships them, but for whatever reason the two are only implied in the show/up to interpretation (i think?) with her claiming such in a livestream. Correct me if im wrong. I'm only mentioning this because ive seen people comment on artwork, or worse, attack others who do not ship huntlow because they consider it canon or as narratively important as lumity for example. I dont really want to compare them at all, thats not necessarily why the ship doesnt work for me. What im saying is, i feel that the ship is overrepresented as something its not. But this bad behavior/attacking is very much in the minority. It comes with the territory, and you could say this for a billion fandoms ships whatever, but makes me annoyed every time I see a character fanart being reduced to "when x looks at x." Leaves a bad taste in the mouth, ya know. I think it downplays the characters growth as individuals. Not that a ship must be canon to be good at all!!! Many such a case where it is the opposite. I adore some ships some consider boring (my poor beloved sokai) or non-canon (not that huntlow is) or just fun. Im just saying this so i cover my bases, so if you like them thats totally chill and yes they are cute!
Anyway i love these characters with all my heart, so PEACE AND LOVE. But as my favorites they had to be discussed. Ironically, this may be the reason I dont feel it works. Im probably overthinking lol, but i LOVE shipping like 99% of Tumblr so im not a hater, again this is just opinion onion option ombre. Im also aroace spec but i think that perspective is still important in the shipping community out of Tumblr too . SORRY IM RAMBLING. I SAY THIS WITH NOOO HATE I LOVE THEM SOO MUCH LET A FELLA TALK!!!
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Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j151ek2rYs0
I got an actual headache from this the shock was too real
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I hope in kh4 we get more of the characters original colors back. I think thats why some of the kh3 designs looked off to me, almost too simple? I miss soras prominent blue so much. The blue grounded his color scheme and made it more mature in kh2. More yellow riku plz and especially lavender and white in kairi.
Bring back baggyness and zippers too !!!! Buckles!!! Accessories!!!! Chains !!! bags everywhere!!! Remember who you are!!!!
I want more swag, nomura.
Ik this is literally the least of our worries for kh4 but let a fella talk. idk if it aint broke dont fix it
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Tog rant/questions on the state of the comic
So guys what's the consensus on tog these days? I have my complaints but i genuinely hold it dear. Stopped reading it back in early 2024ish. Although the series is already very, very long, and has always had complex world/character building, it reached a horribly convoluted point particularly with its characters. I know the addition of more characters is meant to expand family lore, and see the depravity of the towers social systems or something like that, but I felt that it took away from a lot of time with the main cast of characters to the point where they hardly showed up. Again this is nothing new with tog, but it became agonizingly slow in its progression and the fights became light shows (In my opinion the best art was s2 of the webtoon.) But since siu is such a strong character writer, the overall story felt lost. Because I knew these characters would probably never show up again after giving their history, it became a guessing game of "is this important to the larger picture?" Or "can I just toss this character out?" I started to forget what were supposed to be important world events, characters, etc. People like Rachel (hypothetical example) would show up then there would be another 10 or so chapters of nothing related to the past events.
A lot of shonen manga/ action comics have the commonality of drawing out too long, but thats not my issue with tog. I think it really comes down to pacing. Lookism is another dropped comic that had this problem. If tower of god were another monster/family of the week webcomic, I suppose that would be fine. However, I think approaching it in that way would be a disservice to its premise which is so world heavy.
Maybe im being too harsh and my disappointment is making me remember things wrong. I really want tog to flourish like it did in 2020 to 2021, even if the fanbase is not super large. Between s2 of the anime having hardly any promo, and apparently the mobile game was discontinued, it kind of shows the state of the series.
Its not surprising that s1 of the anime attracted so many people to tog, and with s2 of the comic it only got better. For some reason s3 has been an uphill battle that showed a lot of the recurring flaws of the series. except for yasratcha he epic.
All this to say i wanna know if it got better in your opinion. Did it solve some of these problems? Again maybe i remember wrong, so please dont attack. I wanted to get back into it if its better and rant a bit.
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