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It's so sad to me how low transmascs' standards are within trans discussions. Even just a crumb of recognition is rewarded. When our oppression is brought up it's always with a side of apologies and prefaces. Nobody can just say it; trans men are oppressed for being trans men. We need to raise the bar.
No, it's not okay to say trans men are privileged because they're men.
No, it's not okay to say we do not contribute enough to the queer community.
No, it's not okay to bring up our genetailia for no reason.
Call this shit out when you see it. Be loud. People love to make sweeping generalisations about us and use us as scapegoats for the problems that they really have with white cishet men. It has to stop. We are a deeply traumatized group of people, told at every turn to shut up and sit down. Do not give in.
Do the kids these days know that the traditional payment for "having your friends help you move" is "order everyone pizza after"?
Feed your friends. Feed your loved ones. Feed the people who help you. Feed your neighbors. Feed your community.
Seriously though, with a lot of people, especially friends, you can shamelessly and blatantly trade pizza / food for help and labor <3
It is a matter of fact that there are problems non-binary people face that binary people generally do not. One of these problems is that being non-binary is alienating-- not lonely, alienating-- in a very particular gendered way. If you live in a society where literally fucking everything is gendered male or female, this will include all social relationships. For most people, social relationships pass through the filter of "am I speaking to a man or a woman?" before anything can occur; for many people, it is the first thought they have about a person, so they can determine if someone is an ingroup member or an outgroup member. So if everyone has been trained since birth to classify everyone into the Blue Box or the Pink Box in order to decide what kind of social relationships are permissible with you, then when you reject this classification, you are either forcibly binarised, or if you keep resisting, you become a nobody. You become the outgroup for quite literally 99% of the world population. If you won't be a girl and you won't be a guy, then you can't speak girl and you can't speak guy. You're nobody's sibling at heart, because you're nobody's sister and nobody's brother. You're nobody's lover, because you're nobody's boyfriend and nobody's girlfriend. You're not in the social landscape. Nothing is intended for you; you are hardly real at all. So you're not one of us. You're 'them'. See: Harris is for they/them; Trump is for you.
The only way we will fix this alienation is a) by acknowledging non-binary people exist, that our identities are serious, and that our issues need to be addressed; then b) by consciously devoting effort into making room for non-binary people, allowing us to define what we are the way we want (this means not inventing a third gender role). And this means we have to start degendering the world around us, and, yes, telling binary people that they have to consider we exist. This is too much for some people. Transphobic cis people scream and pitch fits about they/them pronouns and gender-neutral restrooms and X's on driver's licenses and teenagers experimenting with gender presentation and so on. Not even trans people are immune. I've sat through a decade+ of transmeds and their goons whining about trenders and neopronouns and xenogenders and how we soil the trans community by claiming to be part of it, and transradfems and their thinkpieces about how we use our apparently vast wealth of societal privilege to inflict "binary-phobia" on passing binary gender-conforming trans women. No matter who's saying it and how, it's the same: If you're non-binary, you should allow everyone around you to binarise you at will (e.g.: "You can't ask me my pronouns! You should gender people based on looks!"). And if you insist on being viewed as non-binary, then we will not take you seriously. Your problems aren't real problems, and in fact, by asking me to include you, you're actually hurting me, because you're making me uncomfortable. You see, you're not a real person, because our social landscape doesn't include you. How dare you ask me to change my mindset to consider you.
Consider us. You can do it right now. All gendering is social; all gendering can be undone. What would it be like not to impose the gender binary on anything, on anyone? I want that world. Do you?
pls support trans girls and trans women who like traditionally masculine things
no seriously please reblog this ive seen so many posts saying to support trans boys and trans men who like traditionally feminine things and those posts are good!! i love them!!
but i have never in my life seen a post saying to support masculine trans girls and trans women or trans girls and trans women who like traditionally masculine things and its really important to understand that showing support for trans women in any form is just as important as showing support for trans men so please, please reblog this.
support trans women and trans girls. support trans women and trans girls who like traditionally masculine things. trans women and trans girls who like traditionally masculine things are not any less valid than trans women and trans girls who don’t!!
I am mid-process of writing the second part of the testimonies & analysis post. I will not be accepting more general testimonies after this point, I think, unless someone says something really unusual or detailed.
However, several respondents brought up the issue of conflation between "nb" as "nonbinary" and "nb" as "non-Black" (in context of "enby" being a convenient replacement for "nb" and opponents of "enby" insisting on "nb"), and I am looking for additional input from Black nonbinary people specifically. You do not need to have been present in the Tumblr trans community since mid 2010s to reach out, you just need to be nonbinary and have some form of experience with this discourse. If you want to respond anonymously, please indicate that you're Black in it.
If I get enough input, this will go into the part 2.2 I am currently writing and be posted tomorrow.
- mod Sun
hi, sorry for cluttering your askbox.. I just wanted to share some info about Chat Control...
Because it's dangerous for the whole European Union, but it can be especially dangerous for minorities in the EU.
The EU wants to scan all of our messages (including these that are supposed to be E2E). Almost all countries support CC 2.0, 3 are against CC 2.0 but for CC 1.0 (which allows scanning DMs on Instagram, Discord, Xbox, emails on Gmail etc.) and only Italy is against all CC.
I'm scared for queers, disabled folks and racial & ethnic minorities in the EU. If the EU passes CC, governments will have easy access to all our messages. And governments will have an easier way to find out which accounts are owned by folks who are queer, disabled, POC or a part of ethnic minority. :(
more on CC: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
I'm sorry if I'm cluttering the inbox but I'm scared and sad because I don't really see people talking about it.
Hey, no need to be sorry, I had no other asks and I always welcome people to use the inbox if they need.
I had no idea this was a thing, that's incredibly upsetting. We know that letting governments do automated scans is sure to target innocent content and that this doesnt help children be safe. Removing privacy for everyone and making way for mass surveillance is not gonna help anyone, that's fucking dangerous. I cant even imagine the impact this will have on minorities already targeted with "dangerous predators" rethoric, even aside from the fact that this allows for surveillance of all texts. My immediate reaction is also that queer kids and trans kids will be less able to get help when they're targeted and that any kid who is being abused wont be able to talk about it. Public platforms cant even ensure the safety of users on public posts which are already monitored.
Learn about the EU Chat Control proposal and contact your representatives to protect digital privacy and encryption.
Im surprised Italy is the only one against, both because there should be more pushback and also because I didnt think *italy* out of everyone would've been the one to say no.
Anyway, thank you for letting me know and giving me a way to learn more about it.
the fact that you didn't know about it makes me even more worried. Most people in the EU probably aren't aware of that, even though the initial proposal was in the *2022*.
I don't follow the media much besides what I see on Tumblr, but when I search up online anything about chat control, the only articles are from the month ago and same with posts on Facebook. This is so depressing.
Yeah, Id never heard of it before, it's wild to think about because it really feels like it should be more of a discussion. Ill try to bring up the subject with people I know
Yeah, it definitely should be discussed more. And thank you. we really need more people to be talking about it.
Don't forget about Chat Control.
Learn about the EU Chat Control proposal and contact your representatives to protect digital privacy and encryption.
Spread the word.
Reblog please even if you're not in EU.
For trans women who grew up being socially imposed as male in households with eurocentric gender roles, more often than not, there is great suffering.
And I'm not talking about dysphoria, nor am I trying to frame manhood as something "evil" (because it's not.) No, I am talking about specifically *toxic masculinity.*
You are told not to cry, not to feel, not to emote! You are told to carry the weight of those around you, because "that's what men do." If you fail at manual labor due to your size or disability, you might as well not even exist, because what good is a man who "does nothing"? If you try to help with "women's chores", you are treated as Weak and Pathetic and scolded for it!
And your imposed maleness is hammered down harder with every feminine characteristic you show!
"Stop being a sissy. Stop being a faggot. Stop being a tranny." Whether these words are said outright, they are always implied.
You are not allowed to be a person. You are expected to be the embodiment of toxic masculinity, to keep your chin up, to stomp all over that woman in your heart and assert power over them!!
So when trans women who go through this escape from these households and begin their transition, there is an obvious, internalized issue - that being how difficult it is to stray away from the toxic masculinity. And I don't mean "oh, they act misogynistic towards other people!" - I mean they act misogynistic towards THEMSELVES!!
They may struggle to transition, because it feels wrong to let their femininity "dominate" them.
They may misgender and degender themselves, treating any conversation of womanhood as something that is Not About Them, because they're a TRANS woman, and conversations about women SURELY don't include them, right?
They may malgender themselves, treating their womanhood as something stupid and frilly and mindless. A literal "I'm just a girl" interpretation of their gender (not in the meme sense), because they don't think they, as a woman, have the right to be anything else. And it's not necessarily that they think other women have to undermine themselves - but they feel that *their own* womanhood needs to be belittled.
This is why conversations about toxic masculinity from the perspective of the person being taught it are so important. Its impact on every gender demographic is unique, but equally important.
A person being instilled with toxic masculinity isn't destined to become sexist towards other people - but it is nearly guaranteed they will be sexist to *themself.*
Transmedicalism is a eurocentric concept!
(PT: Transmedicalism is a eurocentric concept! /end pt)
Transmedicalism (the idea that you cannot be trans unless you feel dysphoria, and desire a physical transition) is SUCH a eurocentric and violent concept and I *need* people to let go of it.
It is intrinsically rooted within denying trans people of color their gender - especially those with cultural genders!!
Quote from "Reclaiming Beauty: Non-Heteronormative and Racialised Conversations on Fatness and Transness" (link)!
(Important context! This article took place in Mexico & Brazil, and centered around Travesti folks! Travesti is a cultural gender, and not all Travesti identify as women, but many do, and even those who don't identify as women often hold some degree of cultural connection to womanhood.)
Medical discourses and practices have historically been used to justify interventions on the bodies of trans people whose gender identities differ from the sexes assigned to them at birth. Narratives about trans people, particularly those identifying as ‘transsexual’, have been shaped by a medical model that frames them as ‘suffering’ from being born in the ‘wrong body.’ In strict terms, this model implies that medical technologies —such as hormones and surgeries— are necessary to ‘adjust’ their bodies, enabling them to ‘transition’ to their ‘true’ gender. Moreover, this medicalised understanding of trans identities has had broader cultural implications, reinforcing binary understandings of gender and promoting the idea that one’s ‘real’ gender can only be realised through medical transformation. This model leaves little space for non-binary, gender-fluid or travesti identities, which may not follow the narrative of medical intervention for gender affirmation. It often prioritises medical access over other forms of affirmation, marginalising those who cannot or do not want these procedures. Currently, many trans scholars have rethought how care is experienced among trans people, acknowledging the importance of gender-affirming care while recognizing its limitations in a binary, medicalised context. Malatino (2020), for instance, stresses that care should not be exclusively tied to medical interventions. While such interventions are significant for some, not all gender-nonconforming people follow a medical transition narrative. This broader, more inclusive approach respects diverse forms of gender affirmation. Furthermore, the focus on the ‘wrong body’ narrative overshadows the social and political dimensions of trans existence, framing gender identity as an individual medical problem rather than a reflection of societal structures that enforce rigid gender norms.
I *need* you people to look into cultural genders, and truly educate yourselves on their history! Physical transitioning wasn't a strict thing for so many of them, and for a lot of cultural genders, the idea of physical transitioning was a foreign idea and deemed unnecessary for their identities!!
(Not to mention, doctors use transmedicalism as a way to weaponize transition against people who weren't "dysphoric enough" to their standards!! Doctors expect people to hyperfeminize, hypermasculinize, hyperandrogynize, hyperneutralize, hypernullify, etc, etc, themselves to "prove" they "deserve" a transition!! You have to strictly conform to gender roles, or else you have a significant likelihood of being denied!)
"Where are all the good trans women?"
Hm idk what a mystery. If only there was an explanation for this. 🤔 (/Sarc)
Maybe we're being targeted by Tumblr staff and mass deleted? 🤷♀️
Maybe we're being harassed off the website by people stereotyping us as being transandrophobic, exorsexist, and intersexist? And accusing us of being sockpuppets of trans women (or just anyone regardless of gender) they dislike?🤨
No, no, surely not. It's such a strange, unexplained phenomenon! 😓(/sarc)
If it's alright I would like to add to this.
There's bad people in every community, trans women aren't more transandrophobic, intersexist, or exorsexist and the people believing and insinuating they are, are being transmisogynistic.
Saying "where are all the good trans women" is transmisogynistic itself because it just comes across as you doing something to drive trans women away from you (probably by saying shit like this) and/or you generalizing trans women by a loud minority.
Not every single trans woman is online, not every single trans woman is on tumblr, not every single trans woman is involved with this shit. Stop generalizing trans women.
You're not any better than the people who generalize trans men and nonbinary people.
The Whiteification of Trans Womanhood: A Eurocentric Parasite
(Pt: The Whiteification of Trans Womanhood: A Eurocentric Parasite /end pt)
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Full disclosure here: I am by NO MEANS the voice of BIPOC. Everything that I am saying here is being outsourced from things that BIPOC have spoken on for YEARS, and I simply wish to spread this very important message!!
I highly recommend looking for and following the accounts of BIPOC to educate yourselves. For example, @checkyourasianbias, @this-is-orientalism, @this-is-antiblackness, @creatingblackcharacters, @i-suggest-landback, and more!
ALSO SOME DISCLAIMERS:
1! Eurocentrism has DEVASTATED modern perceptions on trans manhood, nonbinarity, intersexuality, and even binary pericis womanhood & manhood as well, but that's not the main focus of this essay. Still a very important thing to note, and I highly encourage people to talk about that as well!!!
2! Anytime topics of procedures come up, I am *NOT SAYING* that they are EXCLUSIVE to trans women. I am simply discussing them within the contexts OF trans womanhood. I highly recommend people discuss and make posts about these procedures in contexts of other gender experiences, too!! That's just not what this post is focused on.
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Facial "feminization" surgery (FFS): Surgical whitewashing.
(Pt: Facial "feminization" surgery (FFS): Surgical whitewashing. /end pt)
Facial "feminization" is a procedure done to soften the features of the face into something more aligned with media's perception of femininity. Many trans women seek out these procedures to alleviate dysphoria or disconnect they feel towards their own faces.
However, the steps involved in this procedure are - to put it frankly - eurocentric. Facial features associated with non-white people are erased, unless specifically requested otherwise!! And even the requests aren't always taken seriously!!
Eurocentric features should not be considered the "standard"!! The fact that it is considered such shows a severe lack of inclusion of BIPOC doctors & perspectives in the standardization of the procedure.
Across all articles you find about FFS, there are some key standouts that cannot be ignored. Let's take some quotes from this one (link) an this one (link.)
About eyes!
1: "An eyebrow lift will raise the position of the eyebrows on the face. A blepharoplasty can also be performed to remove excess skin in the eyelids, giving them a larger appearance." 2: "In older patients, the eyelids may also be lifted to open the eyes and achieve a more feminine look. The incisions for an eyelid lift can either be hidden in the crease of the eyelid or placed behind it to minimize visible incisions."
^ Two things to deconstruct here!! First of all, the "giving the eyelids a larger appearance" thing is BLATANT orientalism. You do not need "large eyes" to be feminine, and removing an ethnic feature to achieve "femininity" says a LOT about how you view feminine people within said ethnicity.
Secondly, this is unrelated to race, but still of note - the "in older patients" thing implying that sagging faces are somehow less feminine. As if wrinkles should not exist for women! As if womanhood can only be achieved through "youthfulness"!
About noses!
1: "The surgeon can perform a nose-reshaping operation called a rhinoplasty (sometimes called a nose job) to reduce the width and shape of the nose. The procedure can involve cutting or reshaping the bones as well as the cartilage. A rhinoplasty can also shape the bridge and the tip of the nose to give them a more delicate appearance." 2: "Rhinoplasty (nose reshaping) can change the appearance of the nose. Most commonly, FFS patients request that the bridge of the nose be made thinner and the tip to be inverted, giving the nose a slight upward turn. Patients can also request to adjust the nostrils if they would like."
^ Black people and Latino people often have larger noses, and many Asian races have wide or prominent noses as well! This once again implies that races that commonly have wide noses are "unfeminine", and has many disgusting implications about nonwhite femininity!
About jaws!
"The chin and jaw can be reduced or contoured through mandible contouring and genioplasty procedures."
^ Black people tend to have prominent lower jaws! Why does the jaw need "reducing" to be feminine? Need I say more than what I have already? Treating this as a standardized thing across all races has a detrimental impact on how Black femininity is viewed!
There have been multiple professional articles about this issue, but it is still not spoken about enough.
Here is one article deep-diving into the matter: “What Does Feminine Mean to You?” The Surgeon’s Role in Guiding Pre-Surgical Decision Making for Facial Feminization Surgery (link)
Quote 1!
Central to the ethical complexity of FFS is the evolving understanding of femininity itself. “Traditional femininity” was previously defined by persistent traits, appearances, interests, and behaviors that were considered more typical of women. This framework reflects the strictly binary history of gender. Today, gender and femininity are increasingly recognized as fluid and multifaceted, shaped by intersecting identities, cultural norms, and individual meaning. Studies have found variance across age, culture, and sexual orientation, further underscoring that femininity is neither homogeneous nor fixed. While the experience of femininity is deeply personal, it is also interpreted through a social lens that informs how gender is externally perceived. As contemporary feminist scholarship affirms, patients draw from both their internal identity and external cultural cues to create an individualized vision of femininity. Despite this, Plemons’ ethnographic analysis, completed through observation of FFS surgical consultations, reveals that “neutral” femininity in FFS often becomes a proxy for whiteness. He documents how facial features marked as “ethnic,” such as a Greek nose, Filipino jaw, or Irish ears, are frequently labeled as excessive and masculine within surgical discourse, leading to their surgical modification not only to achieve a feminine form, but inadvertently to align the patient more closely with Eurocentric ideals. In these clinical encounters, femininity is implicitly defined in opposition to both masculinity and non-white ethnic specificity, creating a problematic entanglement where the pursuit of femininity may overlap with the erasure of cultural features. Such outcomes are not necessarily the goal of patients or surgeons but may emerge from an esthetic framework that focuses on softening of facial features to the historic “norm.” For transgender patients of color, this can generate a conflict between affirming gender identity and maintaining connection to racial or cultural heritage. This broadly highlights the importance of involving ethnic identity as part of the discussion during standard preoperative consultations.
Another challenging esthetic ideal embedded in FFS consultation involves the conflation of femininity with youthfulness. Features such as full cheeks, smooth skin, and narrow jawlines are not only seen as feminine but also as youthful, thus leading to an overlap in esthetic goals that can blur the line between procedures aimed at alleviating gender dysphoria and those rooted in cosmetic enhancement. One study that used artificial intelligence (AI) to assess age and gender perception using facial recognition software found that female faces were perceived as more masculine if they were older. This study further assessed patient satisfaction using the FACE-Q patient reported outcome measure modules, and found that post-FFS satisfaction with overall facial appearance was higher with a younger perceived age. This raises a critical ethical question of which procedures are truly gender-affirming, and which reflect broader social pressures around beauty and age? In practice, this distinction is difficult to make but may not be necessary. If the aim of gender-affirming care is to support patients in achieving a sense of self-congruence and social recognition, then the patient’s subjective goals warrant equal consideration. Rather than drawing hard boundaries between reconstructive and cosmetic intent, FFS exists along a spectrum, where personal affirmation is the most meaningful outcome. Still, when patients present for FFS consultation, they require the medical expertise of the surgeon to help bring their vision of femininity to life. As is inherent in such shared decision-making, the surgeons’ perceptions of femininity and philosophy on FFS may influence operative approaches and overall planning. Some empirical studies suggest broad alignment between transgender women and FFS surgeons in identifying features perceived as feminine. For example, Ching et al examined perceptions of femininity and ideal surgical outcomes in transgender females, non-transgender females, and plastic surgeons to enhance communication of goals and expected outcomes in FFS. They found that transgender females and plastic surgeons favored a narrower nasal tip, more acute supratip angle, and more obtuse mandibular gonial angle when ranking features on perceived femininity and attractiveness. These areas of agreement may reflect shared exposure to dominant esthetic ideals or may illustrate how transgender women, in seeking to “pass” and avoid misgendering, internalize prevailing standards. However, closer analysis reveals divergences. For example, surgeons were more likely to recommend an obtuse gonial angle and smaller nasal dorsum as ideal. This further underscores the importance of elucidating which features may be contributing to patients’ gender dysphoria when doing technical preoperative consultations to ensure that surgical planning aligns with patient goals.
Quote 2!
Facial feminization surgery is an essential part of gender affirming care. Surgeons must continuously grapple with how to offer expertise without imposing norms. Moreover, they must empower patients without abandoning them to navigate complex decisions alone. A more ethically sound model of FFS consultation would emphasize patient-defined goals, critically interrogate esthetic biases, and seek to support patients in articulating a vision of femininity that is authentically their own. As the field continues to grow, further research is needed to develop structured, ethics-informed approaches to preoperative consultation that honor the diversity and dignity of transgender patients pursuing facial gender-affirming care.
Unfortunately the other main study on this (link) is locked behind a paywall and scihub.ru doesn't have it, so I can only share the summary. Quote!
1: "Facial feminization surgery (FFS) is a key component of gender-affirming care, yet the field has historically been shaped by Eurocentric esthetic norms, with limited consideration of racial and ethnic differences in facial structure and sociocultural perceptions of femininity." 2: "Nine studies comprising 778 patients were included. Findings highlighted significant racial disparities in procedural selection, with African American, Asian, and Hispanic patients being less likely to undergo cranioplasty or rhinoplasty. Anthropometric studies revealed racial differences in nasolabial angle, chin dimensions, and mandibular flare. Social perception studies indicated an implicit whitening of femininity in FFS esthetics. However, race was not a significant predictor of revision rates or postoperative complications."
To finish off this conversation, I want to share a news article (link) from a Pakistani trans woman who noticed this exact issue! There's two particular quotes that really stand out to me!
Quote 1!
Talking to my Black and brown trans sisters, I heard regrets. Some felt their surgeons had made them more womanly in ways that echoed whiteness: smaller noses, pointed chins, almond-shaped eyes. I wondered, what does femininity look like outside of whiteness? When I imagined my own femininity, I saw women like Abida Parveen and Noor Jehan: distinctive Pakistani faces with smaller chins, lower hairlines, and higher lips, but big noses. By early 2024, I’d narrowed my search to three doctors and reached out to one. On the phone, I began to explain how I wanted to look like myself after the procedure, inclusive of my Pakistani features and with only minor adjustments to my nose. The doctor made me feel like I didn’t know what I was talking about. “Well, if we don’t change the shape of your nose, you won’t really get that feminized face you’re looking for,” she said to me. I never called her back.
Quote 2!
Soon, Dr. Rosenberg came in with a three-dimensional rendering of my face. He pointed to each part and explained the changes he intended to make, showing me how he was only going to work with the features I already had instead of trying to shape me into something new. I agreed with everything he showed me — until we got to my nose. He said that medical sciences agreed that there were three steps necessary to make a nose more feminized: shorten the length, smooth out any dorsal humps, and lower the projection of the nasal bridge. I was okay with bringing my nasal bridge down, but I certainly didn’t want my nose to be shorter or to lose the small hump I had before my nostril. I told Dr. Rosenberg I didn’t care what “medical sciences” said. I was not going to walk out of there looking European.
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The masculinization of Black hair in trans women.
(PT: The masculinization of Black hair in trans women. /end PT)
Black trans women have their femininity put under scrutiny for the length and texture of their hair. Black cis women are also put through this, but for Black trans women, it's used as "evidence" that they aren't "trying hard enough to be a woman."
Here are some general resources about the way Black hair is treated (not necessarily related to transness):
"Research Suggests Bias Against Natural Hair Limits Job Opportunities for Black Women" (link) "How Natural Black Hair at Work Became a Civil Rights Issue" (link) "The Person Beneath the Hair: Hair Discrimination, Health, and Well-Being" (link)
A few important quotes from "Hair Discrimination FAQ" (link)! Once again, not trans women specific, but adds important context to the views of hair in Black people (especially girls & women) in a general sense! (Note that the studies in question are USA-centric, but the sentiment extends beyond the USA!)
Quote 1!
A 2020 study by Michigan State University and Duke University titled “The Natural Hair Bias in Job Recruitment found that Black women face the highest likelihood of being subjected to hair discrimination. The research suggests that Black women with natural hairstyles are less likely to get interviews than white women or Black women with straightened hair. Additionally, researchers found that participants viewed Black hairstyles like afros, twists or braids as less professional. The study determined that Black women with natural hairstyles are less likely to land job interviews than white women or Black women with straightened hair. A 2019 study by Dove found that Black women are 1.5 times more likely to be sent home from the workplace because of their hair. 80 percent of Black women reported feeling that they needed to switch their hairstyle to align with more conservative standards in order to fit in at work. Black people have also lost their jobs or had job offers revoked because of hair discrimination. In EEOC v. Catastrophe Management Solutions, Chasity Jones, a Black woman in Alabama alleged she was offered a job that was then rescinded when she refused to cut her locs. The EEOC filed a lawsuit against Catastrophe Management Solutions, claiming the company rescinded the job offer based on harmful stereotypes about Black hair being naturally unprofessional.
Quote 2!
Some school policies that ban natural and protective styles are grounds for discipline or removal from school, meaning Black students have been denied educational opportunities because of their hair. 66 percent of Black girls in majority-white schools report experiencing hair discrimination. School grooming policies that ban culturally significant hairstyles deny students valuable instructional time by removing students from the classroom, causing them to miss out on lessons. Black students across the country have been asked to cut or straighten their hair to meet dress codes and grooming policies. When Black students wear their hair in culturally significant hairstyles, they are disproportionately singled out and disciplined for violating various regulations and policies. Some school districts have banned specific Black hairstyles, which prevent students from attending school events like prom, extracurricular and sports activities, and even graduation. Additionally, some educators and sports officials are pulling Black girls from athletic competitions until they remove their beads from their braids. A New Jersey high school wrestler was forced to cut off his locs by a referee before a match.
Quote from "The Trans Agenda: Why Is Black Hair Viewed As Masculine?" (link) by Ivana Fischer!
Black trans women are often masculinized based on their hair alone. They are expected to make their hair as long and untextured as possible, rather than embracing the natural flow of their hair. The way that Black women are socialized based on the way our hair looks often causes us to have negative self-images. Short, natural hair is masculinized by way of being called nappy, unkempt, animalistic, and so on. We are chastised by the media, and by those within our own community, for how we choose to wear our hair. Thus, many Black women ‘loc it up (pun intended) in an effort to save themselves from ridicule. And there’s nothing wrong with rocking a few extra inches! It does, however, become a problem when we mistreat our hair for the sake of upholding societal standards of beauty. It becomes a problem when we allow for the continued perpetuation of anti-blackness in regard to our hair. It becomes a problem when what is seen as “manageable” and, therefore, beautiful, is reserved to those with loose, wavy curls. What’s under our coveted weaves, wigs, and sew-ins deserve love and appreciation, too. For Black trans women in particular, this is an extremely difficult conundrum to navigate, especially in a world where many people have preconceived notions about our gender identities. Our appearances are policed from the way we dress, to our muscle densities, to the levels of bass in our voices and beyond, so for a Black trans woman to have short, kinky hair would inevitably invite some transphobic behavior. We are not rewarded the same representational leeway as, say, a white trans women, in that our transitions are invalidated up until the point that we put a wig on. We risk getting misgendered, jeered at, and threatened if we do not endorse the stereotypical notion of long hair equating to femininity.
Quote from "A Letter To Black Trans Women" (link) also by Ivana Fischer!
In a society built on the subordination of Blackness, it is easy to identify the ways Black women’s features are unjustly categorized as masculine and brutish. The messages lobbed at women who rock their locs, braids and TWAs often challenge the validity of Black femininity. Whether these insults are implied or straight-up, Black women’s natural beauty is constantly under attack. So we often cling to our pieces, units and bundles as a way to amplify self-confidence and deter any negativity surrounding our appearances. From the time we start growing hair, we are influenced by society — and by people within our own community — to braid it down, tuck it back and adhere to these restrictive standards of beauty. For Black trans women like me, this can be an extremely difficult conundrum to navigate. We are bombarded with prejudice based on preconceived notions about our gender identities and how we should present. For us to go without rocking a few extra inches in — at the very least, a cheap Shake-n-Go — would constitute an invitation for every aspect of our biologies to be called into question. From our body types, to our muscle densities, to the amount of bass in our voices, Black trans women are too often picked apart and ridiculed. If you think Black cisgender women are held to the most unforgiving societal standards of natural beauty, think again.
The start of my transition was a rocky sea of trials and tribulations. I valued certain traditional markers of femininity and having short, kinky, natural hair made difficult for me to attain them. I couldn’t move through the world without getting jeered at and catcalled. My identity was constantly called into question. A day never went by without me having to talk about the trans stuff. The levels of ignorance I experienced in my daily life led me to adopt wigs as shields of honor. If I had a nickel for every time I got asked, “Where’s your hair?” I’d be rich. I remember one instance in particular, when I told a friend that going out without hair felt like a death sentence to me. That may seem a bit over dramatic but my mental health — and my hair — was tested time and time again. So I clung to wigs and weaves. I reveled in the (bad) extensions and the butt-length braids. I did everything I could to hide my natural hair from the world, so as to not get ridiculed and taunted. Truth be told, it worked for a while. However, whatever solace I found in these devices quickly turned into extreme disgust of my natural hair.
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The intersection of beauty standards against fatness & race in trans womanhood.
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Quotes from "Reclaiming Beauty: Non-Heteronormative and Racialised Conversations on Fatness and Transness" (link)!
(Important context! This article took place in Mexico & Brazil, and centered around Travesti folks! Travesti is a cultural gender, and not all Travesti identify as women, but many do, and even those who don't identify as women often hold some degree of cultural connection to womanhood.)
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Research on Black, Indigenous, and Brown women’s experiences highlights the struggle of navigating daily life under the fear of racialised ugliness.
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It has long been established that racialised identities, whether privileged or disadvantaged, are shaped by historical and cultural power relations that position Indigenous, Black Afrodescendants, Asian, mestizo (mixed-race), and white people within a relational hierarchy. In contexts like Latin America —though not uniquely— colonial legacies have assigned positive value to whiteness, while ‘less 11 white’ bodies have been devalued, marginalised, and dehumanised. Representations of physical beauty predominantly centre whiteness, associating it with desirable bodies, while non-whiteness on darker bodies becomes linked to unattractiveness and disgust.
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Beauty ideals —rooted in Eurocentrism, whiteness, thinness, and heterosexuality— are deeply tied to colonial history and scientific racism, shaping femininity and drawing significant critique within feminism, particularly from Black women authors who exposed how these ideals perpetuate gender and racial inequalities. Notions of racialised embodiment, both in advantage and disadvantage, legitimise the consideration of fatphobia as ‘a Eurocentric colonial technology’. This technology operates on a dichotomy between an ‘us’ characterised by white thinness (the standard of humanity) and a ‘them’ defined by non-white, racialised fatness. This tense, mirror-like relationship highlights what the ‘permitted body’ should embody by reflecting what it must not be. The binarism of these categories becomes more acute, as we have seen, when the gender dimension is included, as it is non-white, fat women who are more reproved and discriminated against for their body size than men, serving as cautionary figures that reinforce body control mechanisms for other women.
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Moreover, we can observe particular tensions around the experiences of travestis with mixedrace and Black bodies in a culture that elevates white beauty ideals. Brazil’s national identity, constructed around the myth of ‘racial democracy’, promotes the sensual mestizo or mulatto as a key symbol of Brazilian identity, obscuring a deeper racial hierarchy rooted in a Black/white binary complicated by a social allowance of mixedness. Despite this idealised image, the legacy of eugenics remains strong, with whiteness positioned as the normative and aspirational standard. In stark contrast, a presumed purely Black African heritage appearance, without any apparent racial mixing involving white features, is often equated with ugliness in Brazil, as it is in many other Latin American contexts. This brings particular intensities to the relationships between racism and beauty. These notions help us better interpret the practices that travestis in Brazil (similar to cis women) engage in to whiten their appearance. It is common to see travestis proudly displaying tan lines from their bikinis under tiny or strapless tops, showing how ‘white’ their untanned skin is in contrast to the rest of their body. Some also enhance their appearance by wearing blue or green cosmetic contact lenses, dyeing their hair blonde, and undergoing cosmetic surgeries like rhinoplasties, with small, narrow noses being highly valued —even among Black travestis.
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Special mentions!
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"Claiming femininity in a world that polices it" (link)! This article is written by Trinetra Haldar Gummeraju, an Indian trans woman, who is also an actress!
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In the mirror, I see a woman shaped by time, choice, and intention. A face softened by estrogen, a body that moves through the world with a quiet confidence hard-earned through transition. Femininity, once far into a distant horizon, now feels familiar—something I live rather than chase. But to access this femininity in a world where beauty is rigidly defined is to understand how power and desirability have long been governed by history, geography, and privilege. To be a trans woman is to know, intimately, that beauty is not merely an aesthetic; it is a currency. One that determines who is seen, who is safe, who is celebrated. To access that currency is to engage with standards shaped by colonial pasts and globalised presents. In an industry still captivated by the aesthetics of whiteness, accessing femininity as a trans woman is fraught with contradiction. Beauty, here, is both freedom and confinement, self-expression and social contract, empowerment and erasure. Beauty, as we experience it today, is an inheritance of colonial violence. The privileging of light skin, sharp noses, delicate jaws—these are not biological truths but cultural impositions of a time when racial hierarchies were reinforced through aesthetic norms. In India, this inheritance remains visible in the ubiquity of fairness creams, the choice of actors being cast in films, and the casual assumption of who is considered “classy” or “refined”. To be a trans woman navigating this terrain is to witness the ways in which gender and race intersect with startling clarity. Femininity, for us, is not merely a birthright; it is something we are told must be earned. And yet, even after the endless medical, legal, and social labour of transition, we find ourselves judged not only on the authenticity of our womanhood but on its adherence to these inherited ideals.
"Non-hegemonic beauties: a critical approach to beauty in (trans)national contexts" (link)!
afaik we don't really have statistics about disordered eating in fat transgender people, but
we know fat people have higher rates of disordered eating than thin people because we are constantly told to strive for thinness, should punish ourselves etc.
we know that transgender people have higher rates of disordered eating than cisgender people because many try to manage body dysphoria by losing weight to make certain features smaller
so the logical conclusion can only be that fat transgender people have astromically high rates of disordered eating, higher than each group individually, especially considering that fatness can enhance a "gendered" body shape and because gender-affirming medical treatment is gatekept behind BMI.
and i don't see nearly enough people talk about this. conversations about disordered eating in transgender people are dominated by thin people. conversations about disordered eating in fat people are dominated by cisgender women (and some nonbinary people who feel comfortable putting themselves into a woman-adjacent category).
the queer meetup i attend seems to have a higher percentage of fat transgender regulars, i see a decent number of fat transgender people online, yet not nearly enough of this intersectional conversation.
and i know exactly why that is too. if you're fat and you talk about disordered eating, people tell you nothing is wrong and you're doing everything right. if you're transgender and you talk about disordered eating, you're told you're not really transgender and just have messed up body image. now try being both.
we need fat cisgender people, thin transgender people and thin cisgender people in ED advocacy to include our experiences and uplift our voices and speak up against systems that affect us in a unique way at this intersection.
This also reminds me of that post that said how doctors will tell you that both testosterone and estrogen will "make you fat", is this related to this intersection/conversation? /Genuine question
It also reminds me of how the idea of androgyny in the general mind is a thin person, and I assume that everyone who wants to look androgynous is especially isolated by that
i wasn't aware of doctors saying HRT will make you fat, but it does fit in with everyone trying to discourage trans people from pursuing hormones because it will make them "disgusting" and "ugly" etc. since being fat is seen as both, it sadly makes sense.
prefacing this by saying i don’t care and if you argue with me in the comments i will delete it and block you
saying that people, and this includes trans people whether you like it or not, should not celebrate or be proud of their gender/masculinity/femininity is inherently problematic and transphobic.
“there’s no reason to celebrate masculinity. all masculinity is toxic masculinity under the patriarchy.” WRONG! not all masculinity is toxic under the patriarchy, and people who have been emasculated for one reason or another (trans men, gay men, asian men, disabled men, intersex men, and more) deserve to celebrate their masculinity. shaming men for being proud of their gender reinforces toxic masculinity among those who practice it, and forces men who have been emasculated deeper into self hatred.
“women only perform femininity for the patriarchy and to conform to gender stereotypes! this is proven by “divine femininity” being a terf dog whistle!” ALSO WRONG! taking pride in being a feminine woman shouldn’t be equivalent to toxic femininity either. women who have been stripped of their femininity (fat women, black women, trans women, women with pcos, female athletes, etc) deserve to celebrate their femininity without being accused of being terfs. it only strengthens terf arguements.
I cannot believe degendering pregnancy is a controversial topic. idk how it is in the west, but when I went to a doctor, told her that I'm pregnant and I needed to do blood tests and many other things she laughed at me and said smth like: "you a 180cm grownass man pregnant??? honey, pregnancy is for those who are women. if you're a mentally ill trans then you can visit a psychologist instead", and I told her that I'm intersex but she was like "not pregnant, *h slurs* are sterile and can't get pregnant, especially if they're a man like you are." I saw 6 different doctors and I was mocked by all of them, until my partner somehow made one of them listen, and she saw that I really was pregnant and being intersex didn't make me "sterile." if pregnancy was degendered and was replaced with neutral language I'd have easier time accessing healthcare. and now that I did, the doctors are still confused and they're like "yeahhh, they never taught us how to treat defects like you so let us treat you like we would treat *normal pregnancy.*" first of all why are you calling a human being a defect, and secondly, do you treat EVERY pregnant woman you see the same way? there are different kinds of pregnancies. not every pregnancy is the same. different people have different complications and needs. why do you treat intersex pregnancy as something impossible that cannot be helped and monitored. especially for pregnant intersex men (or phenotypical "man", idk how to say it). the medical system makes you feel horrible for being intersex and pregnant intersex man. they'll either deny your healthcare or they'll abuse you and force you into womanhood even when you never lived it.
I think sometimes ya'll forget that intersex people can be born with JUST penises as their genitalia. 😭
Like, don't misconstrue me!! Intersex trans women who were born with vulvas &/or ambiguous genitalia are beautiful and wonderful and absolutely deserve to be listened to!!! Their genitalia does not make them any less or more of a trans woman!
But if your first thought when you hear "intersex trans woman" is a trans woman born with a vulva or ambiguous genitals, then I NEED you to reevaluate your view of the intersection of intersexuality and trans womanhood!!!
Listen up, fellow enbies. I know that exorsexism is a big thing right now. I know that it's rampant in way too many communities, in both inherently exclusionary spaces and alleged trans "safe" spaces alike, and I know that it fucking sucks. But you have to keep on living and being you regardless of that fact. You cannot allow bigotry to steal your own identity from you. You have to be as loud as you possibly can about who you are, and you have to keep pushing for change, and you have to keep fighting for inclusion and respect as hard as you possibly can. You may risk facing backlash, and I know that's really scary, but you have to fight the fear. You have to be unapologetically joyous about your existence and you're allowed to be unapologetically angry at all who deny it of its merit. You have to hate exorsexists more than you may hate being nonbinary sometimes in this cruel, binary normative world, but more importantly than that, you have to love being nonbinary. Even when it's not easy. Even when everyone is telling you that you shouldn't be. You have to try. For you, and for everyone else like you. Enbies, you have to live and you have to be you and you really, really have to try.