I didn't want to make this post because I left the fandom ages ago but I know others have talked about it but the glee or maybe the silent acceptance of an abundance of ai created videos of the Supercorp ship kissing has just been too hard to ignore.
I'm aware there's no way to police stupidity. People are going to use a.i. to write terrible fics because, of course they are. That's where we’re at on this thrillride through hell. That's bad enough that people either don't want to think, put in the effort or find some dopamine rush from taking credit for something they didn’t do.
Using ai to create nonconsensual media of anybody is gross as fuck. You should be ashamed of yourselves. But to purport to then be a fan of the characters or the ship or the actors themselves and then like or create that? Fucking vile. And I don't care if it's ‘just kissing’ IT. IS. NONCONSENSUAL.
I don't care that your ship didn't become canon or that you were queerbaited. You are not owed restitution. You are not given a pass to do something so violating to get some cheap thrill.
The amount of people I've seen in the likes of those posts or leaving some stupid fucking comment like: “I know it's wrong but it's so cute!
Give me a fucking break. I debated making this an actual call-out post because I've seen plenty of people in the likes that are both vehemently anti-a.i. and are HUGE fans of the actresses and yet treat them like Twitter chuds.
some people don't seem to realise that Glinda and Elphaba's relationship is meant to show how Glinda wasn't willing to leave her social position to stand against injustice, even when it was against those who she loved.
Like yes doomed yuri but its doomed because Glinda chose her comfort over systemic change while Elphaba chose to sacrifice her safety for others freedom.
Hey this is your not-so-friendly Fandom Grandma Reminder:
It isn't a "straight ship" unless both people in it are straight.
At a minimum, movie canon Fiyero is not straight. If you're a gelphie shipper, then presumably you believe Elphaba isn't straight either. So can we fucking stop with labeling fiyeraba "the straight ship"?
You don't have to like the ship, but stop being a biphobic asshole. Other queer people in the fandom see you and it sucks.
okay well, im going to try to say this as friendly as i can....
you're talking about a ship that is between a cis man and woman in a movie where it was never explicitly confirmed anyone is queer (maybe pfannee- but even his actor has talked about assuming fiyero was flirty bc it was part of his schtick in the past). headcanons are one thing, but fiyero being flirty in DTL did clearly pass over many peoples heads. so them using "straight" might genuinely be bc thats how they interpreted it.
not only that, but saying "you dont have to like the ship" feels as tho ur targeting gelphie shippers, not just addressing the general audience. a lot of the queer folk in the gelphie community have very valid concerns about the way people have tossed around the word biphobic and might be sensitive to such (as it has often been weaponized against gelphie shippers or used as a 'get out of jail free card' by those who are against wlw shipping but dont want to be called homophobic for picking on gelphie shippers). this is a very real conversation-- equally as valid and concerning as a conversation that could be had about there being actual biphobia in the fandom (bc i wont dismiss your concern. i hear what ur saying. its the delivery im addressing)
there is also....to be perfectly honest....just plenty of folks who may genuinely not realize the difference in saying f/m vs straight for a ship btwn a man and a woman (esp bc they often call gliyero straight too) and may have appreciated being educated instead of scolded for bad intentions they do not have. you may be a "fandom grandma" -- but not everyone's been around so long or may know as much about what is and is not hurtful. its really hard to make this fandom seem accepting when no one is willing to be friendly.
immediately jumping straight to "you're all biphobic assholes" seems....rather discouraging of actual education and more encouraging of furthering the divide and conflict btwn these ships. i understand you may feel frustrated or hurt, i empathize with that and know it may have led to a frustrated post, but you're talking to people who have also been frustrated and hurt.
i also understand and respect the point you are trying to make....just maybe next time try and remember that the movie brought in a LOT of new folks who may not have been around long or gone deep enough to realize the impact of saying fiyeraba is a "straight ship."
~ signed sincerely, a bisexual woman who has long held respect for all three main ships
i feel you but....kinda part of my point....was that with a new movie means a new influx of people in the tag and fandom space who probs havent seen those old posts (i know ive never seen ur account before) and arent intending to put a ship above a real persons comfort.
trust me-- i know how exhausting it can feel to constantly feel like you're shouting into a void just to get some respect, but it's also exhausting to feel as tho you can never do anything right as a fan and there's no period of grace for learning. add that to the weaponized use i mentioned (which believe me, does genuinely happen) and i can see how it all gets....frustrating. and hard to tell who's genuine.
Biphobia has been extremely weaponized too. Being new is not an excuse for calling a ship het, especially when its being used in a derogatory way to imply they are less queer or the relationship is less valid. Calling them the het ship is almost always accompanied by an implication that it is less than. That gelphie is purer. That they erased Elphaba's queerness somehow.
Glinda? She gets the full comphet glass closet analysis. But Elphaba is reduced to straight unless she is with Glinda. Do you see the problem here? Nobody is calling Glinda/Fiyero the het ship. Because it's being turned into a competition where the wlw ship is queer and the bi4bi ship is straight and therefore "boring" or "inferior."
I have spent the last 2 pride months being constantly invalidated because my bi4bi NB/Cis M relationship looks straight to people on first glance. I had someone on Twitter once inform me I was in a straight relationship despite neither of us being straight. I was told the only way I could be bisexual was to be with members of multiple genders at the same time (i am but this person didn't know im poly).
Bi people got engaged at the Chappell Roan concert and immediately became "straight" in public discourse. People are constantly arguing what spaces I'm welcome in and where I can bring my partner. There is a real world impact here. One that causes mental health issues at a disproportionately high number compared to most of other queer folks (the exception being my trans loves who also constantly deal with rejection from the community).
You are over here tone policing because you feel the message should have been gentler instead of really sitting with the frustration and hurt that is caused by the behavior.
Words MATTER. If you are new here (and i don't even know what that means because this is a constant problem and it doesn't change because you are into a new show or movie) and have been engaging in shitty behavior unknowingly, take this as a sign to stop. Literally the original post was don't be a biphobic aashole because it's invalidating. The proper response if you didn't realize that is "sorry. I didn't know and now I do."
And then you stop. Stop calling it a het ship. Stop acting like it's inferior.
You can have a preference for the wlw ship. You can relate more to it.
im not saying that its okay to invalidate bi folks, nor am i saying thats not a real issue or that OP doesnt have a right to feel their feelings. im saying that the reason people might be saying that is not always malicious. elphaba is not shown to be bisexual in the movie. neither is fiyero. bowen yang himself has said that even he didnt interpret fiyero's flirtiness as indicative of his sexuality when he first saw wicked. the reason i brought up "new" fans is because there is a very good reason why someone who has never engaged with this fandom beyond just seeing the musical or movies would think it IS actually a straight ship.
this has nothing to do with inferiority of ships. actually- a LOT of the people i see "erasing" elphaba's bisexuality are the ones shipping fiyeraba. gelphie shippers get absolutely ragged on about how "elphaba doesnt like girls" "elphaba never liked glinda that way" "stop making female friendships gay" etc etc. and its really frustrating when people always leap right to its "gelphie shippers being problematic for not liking the canon ship" and explicitly calling out only those who dont ship fiyeraba instead of maybe tackling the fact that the fucking plot never confirms they're queer.
why arent we calling out all that other biphobic behavior if its actually about that??
tldr- my main points were 1) casual or new viewers may think they're straight bc the show doesn't confirm otherwise and 2) it's frustrating that the post was targeted at gelphie shippers when they are often the ones seeing/facing that behavior
Talking about the inherently evil and lustful nature of Man with the British singer Mademoiselle Helen Folasade Adu who performs under the stage name Sade.
Talking about the virtue of humility, the tasteful fur coat, feminine strength, and such contractual measures to prevent harm and rape within the intimacy of the boudoir with King Leopold II.
Talking about the subjectivity of the human perception of reality by manufacturing and interpolating instantaneous hallucinations with Herman Melville.
so I got an ask yesterday, asking me the question I've been waiting months for someone to finally say to me in an anonymous forum, so I'd have the weak excuse to do this: a faberry fic rec post!
I've been straight up addicted to faberry fics for about six months now. and yeah, the year is 2025 and YEAH, I'm in my 30s. whatever??? some of us have late in life gay awakenings. (for the record I do have a wife but that's not the point.)
anyway, below the cut are a lot of my top favorite fics that I've read so far - but incomplete and non-definitive, because the list was getting toooo long. that said, if anyone were like "omg beth this is so great please share 100 more fics that you recommend" I would probably do that. my job, who I abandoned two hours earlier than I should have today to compile this, will not thank you, but I will.
anyway, I'll either keep this list updated if I find anymore I really want to add or maybe create a second post and link it here if it gets too long. we'll see!
June 16, 2025 update: I was going to make a follow-up fic rec master post, and then the post was so long that tumblr wouldn't let me post it lol. so instead I made a faberry fic rec blog oops. enjoy!
★ faberryfic
★★★★★
I'll Be by stix04
Can Quinn pretend to be in love with Rachel just to get out of Lima? Can Rachel pretend to love Quinn so she's not so lonely in New York? And what happens when both girls realize they're no longer pretending?
This fic is fucking INSANE (affectionate). It's one that, for me at least, I had to get a ways into before I learned its language. It's just so unique and the way the characters were written is sooo...deranged? (lmao!) But it was constantly laugh out loud funny, the angst was very much believable and bearable, and more than anything, and most importantly, - it was able to capture the ooey gooey faberry feelings. You know what I'm talking about with that? Some fics just have it, you know what I mean? They just wrap around your heart and squeeze. This one does that. And at the same time, it was just soooo silly goofy ridiculous stupid - and perfect. Kind of a masterpiece tbh.
★★★★★
Comfort of Love by ForForever19
More than a decade after the death of Tony Stark, a blonde teenager walks into a diner looking for a cheeseburger, and finds more than she expected.
OR
Faberry in the MCU. Sort of.
Do not, I repeat do not let the summary for this one put you off, in case you are averse to crossovers or the MCU or both. For one thing, ForForever19 is a master of the crossover and can make anything work seamlessly, it's actually SHOCKING. And for another, the MCU is more of the backdrop for this Faberry story. It's so good, it's stupid. I loved the Quinn and Rachel characters in this one - it was the sort of story I never wanted to leave. Some might quirk an eyebrow at their age difference, but I think the story justified it. It's difficult for me to say more without giving gifts of the fic away so just know that this is one of my favorites and give it a chance.
★★★★★
these strange steps by thememoriesfire
Rachel, bottoming out completely, is doing a show in Vegas and, as a distraction from her life, gets dragged to a strip club by Puck. She hasn't seen Quinn in 8 years. This isn't how she wanted them to see each other again. Warning: D/s overtones.
There are some stories that reach further than other fics, that are trying to tell a different story than one of two girls who fall in love, and this is one of them. The author says in a note that this is more a character story than a relationship story and that’s certainly true. It’s beautiful and painful and cathartic, much more than being just a romance. But it’s perfect for exactly what it is.
★★★★★
this is me trying by ForForever19
'Lena takes steps forward, eyes searching for a free seat near the back, but it seems she's not the only one with that idea. There is a blonde woman sitting very stiffly right in the back, and Lena imagines that's what she's about to look like once she takes her seat.
Which she does, two seats over from the woman.
Then she waits.
Listens and learns.'
OR
Lena and Quinn, an adoption scandal, heartbreak, and the foreign concept of actually trying to be happy.
Oh my god, whaaattt, another ForForever19 crossover fic?? No way!! Okay so, disclaimer with this one is that Supergirl is definitely more than just a backdrop in this story - it's half the story, as half the story is about Kara and Lena. But like, who doesn't love Supercorp! Anyway, if you do, read this. The craziest thing is, my favorite part of this story isn't even Faberry, because while I did love them (as well as the Supercorp of it all), my favorite part was actually Quinn and Lena's relationship! It was so incredibly beautiful. I wrote in my notes for this fic "I ached every moment they were together, and when they weren’t, I just wanted them to go back." So, well, yeah - open yourself up to possibilities, I say! This one might just blow your mind.
★★★★★
Didn't See It Coming by ForForever19
After a devastating breakup, Quinn turns to Rachel in need of a friend, and ends up with so much more. - "If, one day, someone asks me how it all started; I'll have to say it was a granola bar that finally did me in."
This one is an absolute epic. It's a monster of a fic, but it's wonderful. To be honest, there was a lot of darkness in this story, but throughout it all, Quinn and Rachel had this deep and profound love for each other that held so strong, and it was so so lovely to read. And even the background characters felt really special in this story - Hiram and LeRoy, and Santana and Brittany. I'll also note, this fic has a song used in this fic that I became obsessed with after, and is one of my top-played songs now lmao. And every time I listen to it, I think about the specific scene from this fic!! So good.
★★★★★
I've Been Trying to Reach You by thememoriesfire
After falling pregnant in sophomore year, Quinn Fabray plummets from the top of the teen hierarchy at McKinley High to the very bottom. In an effort to give her a chance to start over, her parents transfer her to Carmel, a private school in the area with a blossoming arts program. It's supposed to be a new beginning, but what she doesn't count on is immediately becoming enemies with the most popular girl in school: Rachel Berry, co-captain of Vocal Adrenaline.
Sometimes you read a fic over six months ago and you can't remember the specifics anymore of what you loved about it. And that's okay! I still remember loving it. It still goes on this list. And to the top of my re-read list since I've forgotten everything about it apparently. Yay!
★★★★★
Never Asked To Feel Your Halo by BattleKitten
The thing was, neither of them wanted this-whatever it was, but since when did the Universe care about what Rachel or Quinn wanted? Their cards had been dealt the moment they'd entered that shower together. Now it came down to how well they played them.
This was one of the first Faberry fics I read, and it kind of took over my life when I did lmao. My wife was really concerned actually! Anyway, haters will say that Faberry is too toxic in this fic. I don't know! Maybe so! Personally I loved it. This fic also did this really specific thing that I love, which might honestly be why I love it so much, best described by this bit I wrote in my notes for it: “I loved how much stupid ridiculous attention every little detail got. Every brush of a hand sent them into a frenzy that would last a whole chapter.” There's also an incomplete sequel, so while this one is technically complete, it's also lowkey not so...proceed with caution, if that sort of thing matters to you? (*warning that there’s some transphobic language used in this fic a few times, in a “making fun of rachel” scenario*)
★★★★★
Temporary Love by ForForever19
'As far as first impressions go, Quinn Fabray would definitely sell part of her soul for a do-over.'
God, this story is so good, but so angsty. Long and heartbreaking and painful and so so so good. And painful! Did I mention painful? But seriously, it's a beautiful story, and, spoiler alert, it has a happy ending. But I think like 2/3 of the story is spent in a state of distress, if I'm gonna be honest lmao. But you know, as Taylor Swift would say - sad, beautiful, tragic love affair with a happy ending, or whatever.
★★★★★
Whenever You're Ready by ForForever19
'If anyone were to ask Quinn Fabray just what she was thinking, she'd be unable to answer. She wasn't thinking, maybe, because even she can't bring herself to rationalise just what possesses her to kidnap someone else's children. God. She's pretty sure she's just committed a felony.'
Oh, I love this fic so much, and I think about it all the time. This awoken something in me. I think that I think about it a lot because it made me want more of this very specific genre of both Quinn and Rachel being moms, and then meeting and falling in love. I just, ooooh, that's so good. I also love when an author nails writing kids, and the kids in this fic are soooo cute. It's such a good time all around, I loved it.
★★★★★
a first glance feeling on new york time by overnights
“I never doubted that you’d end up here,” Quinn says. “In New York. On Broadway. I always knew you’d be the one to make it out of Lima.”
“You did too,” Rachel points out.
“I wasn’t ever a given, though,” Quinn says quietly. “You were always the sure thing.”
"fairly quinntrospective" reads one of the tags on this fic, and well, yes. And I love Quinn soooo much, just so so so so much, and this author wrote her so beautifully. And I loved how full her world felt in this fic. This story was just so wonderful at the details. Not overbearing but just RICH. And Quinn's love for Rachel was just, oooh baby - good stuff. Reading this story made me feel like I was floating on a cloud as I read it and existed in its world. So beautiful.
★★★★★
Enough To Believe by ForForever19
Years after Shelby ups and disappears from Lima with Beth, a blonde girl shows up on Rachel and Quinn's doorstep, armed with a lot of questions, and very familiar cheekbones.
Okay, disclaimer that this one is an established relationship story, but I just loooove a Beth story so much. And teenage Beth at that! Who I am imagining in my head as Kathryn Newton and it’s perfect. This story was so sweet and warm and compelling and just niiceeeee, I loved it. I loved Beth, I loved Quinn and Rachel’s relationship. I loved all the complexities of their fucked up little family. It’s not an especially long story and it only covers like two days of time but the world feels so full and I felt so immersed in it.
★★★★★
A Matter of Timing by ForForever19
'If anyone were to ask Rachel Berry how or when it happens, she probably wouldn't be able to say. The why is much, much easier. It's Quinn. There's really no other explanation needed.'
Absolutely wonderful, painful, beautiful, tragic, angsty, mess of a story, which I loved. It was not warm feelings ooey gooey faberry - it was a pure and true angst. But it was written so so well. A story of unrequited love, and well, the title says it best - a matter of timing. It was so painful to read, and it hurt so much, but it made sense, which matters. If you're looking for or okay with something that's gonna hurt you, but you're gonna like it - this is the fic for you.
★★★★★
Past Mistakes by InvisMeg
Rachel makes a wish and finds herself in a place she never thought she'd be again. Now she's she reliving her senior year, trying to fix everything that went wrong and trying to find what she's been missing in her life.
Here's the thing, I love time travel soooo much!! So so so very much. I'll read any time travel Fabery fic you put in front of me. (Truly any one. Do it. Right now. Give me a Faberry time travel fic to read, I dare you.) But not all time travel fics are created equal, and this is one of my favorites. I love when they have a little mission that they're going back for, something to fight for, something to change. This one does that well. It was just an all around good time and a great concept - a great story to tell. YAY TIME TRAVEL!
★★★★★
Stays in Vegas by gayerfurtherfaster
Ten years after high school, Quinn and Rachel wake up after a one night stand only to find out they can't remember some very important events from the night before.
I loved this. It was so well-written and funny and cute. And just overall a fun story!! A little bit The Hangover-esque trying to retrace their steps from the night before. And this wonderful chemistry and immediate spark between them that makes their relationship fun and interesting. Just a super cute story that I really enjoyed!
★★★★★
Nineteen by ForForever19
Quinn Fabray has eighteen tattoos, and Rachel is on a mission to discover every single one.
This one is a quickie, but it's so good and so sweet! It's short, but it's still sort of a slow-burn almost. It's a slow and beautiful unfurling. A slow-building intimacy.
★★★★★
celebrate the art of dreaming by gayerfurtherfaste
What happens when your two best friends become something more?
A biiiiig disclaimer here! This is not a Faberry fic, but it is a throuple fic where two-thirds of the throuple is Faberry! That is not for everyone! It is for me! If you are like me, and a throuple fic is for you, then read this fic! If it is not for you, then carry on! Good day!!
★★★★★
take these broken wings by celaenos
Begins in Season one and follows Quinn through her life should she have chosen to keep Beth, realize she is queer, and fall in love with Rachel Berry.
The main romantic relationship will be Faberry, with a bit of Hevans and Brittana, but apart from Faberry it will be very heavy on friendship and Quinn&Beth oriented.
This is a beautiful and thoughtful series of fics. It's very sweet and done really interestingly with each fic being from a different character's POV. It starts in high school, then moves us to New York and college, and - it has one of my favorite things - Quinn as a mom! To Beth! Who we love!! Yay Beth!!
★★★★★
dear your name here by thememoriesfire
Future AU; Quinn and Rachel meet up again in college.
A fun fact about this fic is that it's the first Faberry fic I ever read. A second fun fact about this fic is that by "read" I mean that my wife read it out loud to me while we were on a roadtrip and I was driving. Twice! Two different roadtrips! Over a year and a half apart! So this seems like a good fic to end this list on. Maybe one day I'll read this fic with my own two eyes instead of my wife reading it out loud to me in a car. Not today though!
i’m trying to explain to my partner, who has never seen even an episode, how bizarre and deranged all of glee was. reblog this with your favorite insane plot line from glee.
omg i’m so gay like idk how I even questioned it like girls omg omg
unless that becomes a problem for some reason or another
then this was a joke. I love boys. Boys ooooo so handsome. Love them.
But if it’s not a problem. omg aren’t girls so pretty and soft and just idk light. idk how to explain it just like everything nice and bad and wrong and perfect and quiet and loud and everything all wrapped into one
I have a theory that probably isn't new,but I think that Galinda probably had a very lonely childhood and may not have actually been popular until like 8th-10th grade. She was obviously doted on and surrounded by yes-men from an early age,but I think she empathized with elphie from the beginning. I also think she was scared to express that for fear of losing the image she had so carefully crafted. She feels all this "loathing" as well as love towards Elphaba because she sees everything she still could be if she were braver...unfortunately this also includes becoming a pariah. Mind you,she does make wisecracks about elphie being green but they both enjoyed their little spat in history class. That Ozdust dance scene really seems to drive it home with how she joined Elphaba's dance. Okay,that might have been out of remorse for setting her up like that,but the comforting???? The wiping her tears and the embrace???? Ignoring her toxic ass friends trying to get her to stop when she's usually all about image???? Her doing the most to secure her date and position of love interest with fiyero only to ditch him entirely to run off with Elphie????
And THEN we get the Popular sequence. It's not just a flirty or silly little number (it is those things but it's more than that). Popularity has helped her rise up the social ladder despite a lack (at the time) of talent. Her ambition to become a sorceress is altruistic if also self-serving. She wants to actually DO and BE good and feel like the adoration she seems to acquire so easily has been earned. She tries to help Elphaba become popular because Elphaba IS good and has so much talent. BUT Elphaba lacks social skills and isn't conventionally attractive. Elphaba gave her a leg up towards her goals by not only insisting Galinda be in the seminar as well but also THREATENING TO QUIT THAT INSTANT if morrible didn't include her and give her the training wand. They both spend the rest of act 1 bar like a couple of scenes helping each other advance until they have to part ways inevitably. That's love born of empathy and understanding. The "galindafying" was her protecting Elphaba and literally the best gift she was able to give in return
Y'all really fall for that "man spews shallow feminist talking points to distract from glaring concerns about how he actually treats women, such as numerous women in his professional orbit cutting ties with him" every damn time
What gets me is it took next to nothing for people to turn on Blake like…she was a bit rude in an interview once years ago…so??? People actually trying to cancel her for not being accommodating and sweet toward every single member of media during promo campaigns (which can go up to 12-14 hrs a day) and that’s it??? Meanwhile Chris Brown can have ten years of violence to his name and people will still defend him. Or Diddy can be charged with sex trafficking and within a week tik tok finds a way to…blame Beyonce?
Everyone who says Galinda should've gone with Elphaba needs to remember that 1; Elphaba never actually accomplishes much as a revolutionary, and Galinda becomes interim leader of Oz at the end of Musical canon (and maybe movie canon) so she'll have more chance to do Good in Oz and reverse the Wizard's terrible laws than Elphaba ever did. It really is all about Popular
2; she would've made a TERRIBLE fugitive. She wouldn't have lasted a day in hiding, especially if they had to do it in disguise, in the wilderness, or away from society in general. Which is exactly what Elphaba had to do.
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