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This belongs here, cause you guys get how important encryption is (and how long and hard someone was working on it) unfortunately, We’re the joke to gov’t here.
I hope every lesbian who grew up being told that lesbian was a bad word finds peace and comfort and pride in the knowledge that lesbian is a good wonderful word with a deep rich meaning and history
today I’ve been especially curious where the whole queer taboo came from and I’m trying to figure out when exactly it started being a thing.
According to this google trends, the phrase “is queer a slur”, there were no results until May 2013. Now, I’m not implying “queer” isn’t used as a slur or hadn’t been considered a slur until then, but SOMETHING happened in May 2013 that caused a bunch of people to search that.
Similarly, the oldest posts I’ve seen tagged on tumblr with the phrase “q slur” have been from 2013, and have so far not found any earlier posts with the tag. (and really I have no way of knowing if the tag was added at a later time) So far what I’ve found is the actual censoring/starring of queer and use of “q slur” has been predominately from 2016 onwards, and people that used the tag before then would frequently use it as a catch-all term or to refer to themself. It wasn’t until the past few years that those people started telling others not to use it to refer to other people.
I am just so, so fascinated as to what exactly happened that caused this shift and I can’t find it
….OH? 👀
If I may add onto this…
And all three together
I joined tumblr in 2011 and this sounds pretty accurate and familiar. I was here a few years before the ‘queer is a slur’ crowd came out of seemingly nowhere (2016 sounds right). When I joined here everyone openly accepted asexuals as part of the LGBTQIA community.
It was before 2016 though that there started to be discourse about whether asexual experiences were enough like other LGBT+ experiences for them to be allowed to reclaim the word queer for themselves. I think that is when I first can remember people beginning to refer to it as a slur. (I feel like that is where the idea came from that the criteria for being a part of the LGBT+ community was oppression rather than sexual orientation.)
And then one day BAM suddenly not only could aces not use the word queer but they weren’t even a part of the community at all according to these people.
I never really heard “queer is a slur” until after the “Does the A stand for Ally or Ace” discourse. Then I started to hear “can aces use queer?” which seemed like a weird question, then it seemed like a flood of “queer is a slur”. Almost like people wanted to shut down the term entirely instead of having an open community.
Seconded. I’ve been on Tumblr around 7 years, and I never heard “queer is a slur” going around until ace discourse became a thing.
broooo i was kidding when i asked you to move to a rural italian village with me and start a new life lmao. deadass bro. unless…
people on either side of any argument in all situations are wrong, if you have an opinion you are incorrect without exception, unless your opinion is correct in which case you’re right. Agree? Disagree? I couldn’t care less
terfs mistaking cis jewish women for trans women bc of facial hair is so.. huh.. like that really says something doesnt it. terf ideology is on such shaky foundations in literally all aspects so its not surprising that terfs would attack cis women who dont fit their idea of womanhood & bc they think trans women all look a certain way where theyll be able to identify them but that case specifically is particularly funny/horrible. especially bc like jewish women/jewish mothers being viewed as masculine is a longstanding stereotype thats been employed by nazis and reactionaries 🤔
I’ve seen actual nazi “how to spot a jew” propaganda rebranded as “how to spot a trans woman” spread around by terfs and it’s fucking mortifying
The concept of who is considered a ‘real woman’ has always been a white woman. Concepts of gender are very racialized. So this comes as no surprise.
A long time ago I took a course on the sociology of marriage and my professor said “With compromise, you both lose. As a couple, you must collaborate on the best possible outcome.” Ever since, I never prioritize compromise in a relationship, only collaboration.
Literally if you’re going to show up and talk with your friend the entire time, just don’t come. Everybody else in class hates you
Oh, it’s that time of year again. Don’t speak unless you’re going to pay my tuition
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marina and the diamonds: I’m miss sugar pink liquor liquor lips, hit me with your sweet love steal me with a kiss,
me: actually I’m gonna go burn a cop car!!
WHAT DO WE DO WHEN THE COPS FUCK OFF?
(Class War Reprint From Issue 17, Spring 1986)
The question of what we’re actually going to DO when the cops fuck off has been almost completely ignored by street revolutionaries, but it’s one of the most important problems we face. There is no way that people are going to be grateful to see the back of the filth if they think that muggers, rapists, smack-dealers, wife beaters, and other anti-social bastards are going to have a free hand.
But it needn’t be like that. Someone once told me of an incident he witnessed in occupied Ireland. Rioting on the Falls Road had carried on ‘til early morning and vehicles were needed for a road block, when along whirred a milk float. Quick as a flash it was commandeered, however it wasn’t torched until the crates had been taken off and every local household had been delivered two pints of milk!
COMMUNITY RESISTANCE
This sort of interaction between street-fighters and the rest of the community is essential. When looting takes place, we must make sure that goods are distributed to those in need, not as an abstract matter of principle, but because we need to show that we care more for our fellow prisoners in the slum streets and rat-hole estates than any number of incompetent, grassing social workers. And of course, in a state of insurrection those who look after our kids, carry messages and weapons, lie for us in court, and give first aid are as vital to the struggle as the able-bodied, young, and largely male (though less so every time!) street-fighters. But it’s not just a question of handing out a few tins of beans to the old folk. If we cannot deliver safe streets and secure homes for everyone, ordinary people will be begging for the return of the law. Obviously informers must be dealt with, but the best way to stop them creeping out of the woodwork is to prove that the community can do a better job of preventing anti-social behavior than the filth.
STREET JUSTICE
Street justice is an ugly phrase. It carries visions of Clint Eastwood crazed vigilantes shooting black kids for being assertive; the IRA kidnapping kids for smoking dope; the Ayatollah’s “Party of God” beating women for daring to dress the way they want. But somewhere along the line, as individuals, as communities and as a class, we are going to have to learn how to dispense our own justice. Otherwise, people terrified to walk their own streets and estates will continue to fall for all that law ‘n’ order bullshit.
IT STARTS NOW
It starts now. With thinking what you’d do if you saw next-door getting broken into. There’s got to be a better answer than calling the cops or letting it happen, and we need to find it before every street has a neighbourhood-watch snoop snivelling back to the smiling community bobby with his plastic bullets and computer files.
It starts now. With making sure that in this summer’s riots, the muggers are challenged and the rapists eliminated. With making sure that clumsiness or drunken stupidity don’t result in ordinary people getting their homes burnt out.
It starts now. With discussions on the streets and estates about what we are going to do when the cops fuck off. Street justice is justice for ALL by ALL. Anything else is just a new set of cops. We need the answers quickly, and we haven’t begun to ask the right questions.
Let’s get cracking then
I'm a feminist and I'd also like to be a good trans ally. Why are there so many trans people who characterize playing with dolls/wearing dresses/liking pink as a sign they were a girl, and why do some say that their interest in sports was a sign they were a boy? It may not be a community-wide issue, so forgive me that. It strikes me as essentialist and somewhat tactless. Is it okay for me to question people who say things like that? Thank you for your insight!
This is actually a form of institutional violence that trans people, largely trans women, face.
To copy-paste from a previous post I made on this matter:
Growing up, I had a few trans lady friends who were hyped about being openly/visibly butch and/or gnc trans women when they began transitioning.
Three of the bunch committed suicide after basically being blacklisted out of access to medical transition. Others were wealthy enough to be able to move to where they could have a second or third shot. A femme trans lady friend forgot to apply nail polish and makeup to one of her sessions with her doctor, and that led to him keeping her from medical resources for the next two years of care, and she, as well, ended up killing herself. I could keep listing story after story with similar narratives and endings, it’s really pretty common.
Gatekeeping, whether it’s within a medical context, or a social one, relies on heavily policing trans women to prescribe to normative gender expressions dialed up to 11. We don’t, and we tend to suffer. And I don’t think it’s at all fair to cast blame on trans women who follow those norms, not when our survival is paramount and we’re coerced into those conditions via potentially fatal consequences.
Like, I’m a sloppy/lazy femme in terms of my expression, often shifting towards the hoodie and jeans aesthetic because it’s just comfy, but every doctor’s appointment, every tribunal over my transition, best believe I was probably among the most stereotypically feminine presenting ladies those docs saw that day. Not a chance I’d risk it. Every job interview, every meeting when I was looking for housing, same deal. Survival wins over the microscopic impact I might have on the reproduction of gender norms in those instances, especially when my continued survival means I can live to fight those (and other) battles in other ways less tied to my survival.
So, to be blunt and concise, it’s not trans folks upholding harmful notions of gender. It’s cis folks…cis men and cis women, weaponizing society against us to uphold gender norms through us because we’re deemed as threats and as less legitimate, so our standards are often exponentially higher than our cis counterparts.
Like, I live in liberal Canada, and this gatekeeping shit still happens. I have sat down and taught so many trans people how to strategize and what language to use, what narratives will provide the path of least resistance, so that we can get what we need in the aggressively oppressive system we live in.
Like, as a young child, I played hockey, I liked micro-machines, I liked video games, I liked climbing trees, riding bikes, building forts, and track & field.
I told my therapist that in my third session when she asked about my childhood, just minutes after telling me she felt I was ready for hormones. I had to endure 23 more sessions with her, spread across the next year and a half, to get back to where I was mid-way through that third session, a long enough time for her to forget enough about those remarks on my childhood, before I could get access to hormones. When she asked about my childhood again in the 22nd or 23rd session, I told her I played with dolls, and that secretly, my favourite colour was pink as a child, and that I yearned to play house but no one would play with me, that I’d try on my mom’s shoes and some of her clothes, etc. etc. And after I tossed out enough cliche elements of the standard narrative (basically painting myself as a very heterosexual hyper-feminine 50′s housewife), I got access. I can’t say that if I ever got interviewed on public media that I’d stray from that safe narrative, because chances are, my doctors would/could see, and I could lose access to healthcare, employment, housing, etc.
Like I said, I’ve had friends who forgot to wear nail polish and were punished for it. I had a friend…in the dead of winter…who wore pants to an appointment and was suddenly told by the doctor that he had no confidence that she was a ‘real’ trans woman. A trans dude friend of mine got in a car wreck and had busted up ribs, and couldn’t wear his binder comfortably for a while, and his doctor refused to renew his prescription to T. He eventually had to find a new doctor, endure the waiting list, and get back on, which took like, 9 months.
So if we’re saying things like that, it’s almost always a self-defense mechanism. It’s very hard to tell who we can trust, and who has the power to derail our transitions, or kill our support networks, etc. And while I’m sure if all trans people revolted and told the truth, it might help disrupt that system of norms and standards and gatekeeping, but I could never ask others like me to take a stand on principle that would likely kill a great many of them. I know that without HRT, I wouldn’t survive more than maybe three months, it’s really that simple, and I know so many others in the same boat. It’d be like walking into a building burning from a three-alarm fire to try and activate the inactive sprinkler system, instead of calling the fire department to put it out. This isn’t our responsibility.
I think it’s important to remember that trans people who are coerced into expressing these narratives are a tiny demographic, so our ability to significantly ‘reproduce’ or ‘essentialize’ any gender norms is negligible at best. And that in the overwhelming majority of the world, trans folks have to comply with exaggerated gender norms for our gender simply for survival. And that survival must take precedence over worries of us reproducing harm that we’d only be reproducing because cis people can’t get their heads out of their asses over their need to police everything about our bodies and our lives.
Like, in case you’re not aware, the “born in the wrong body” language stemmed from trans patients decades and decades ago, who were being experimented on, sterilized, mutilated, and tortured. Eventually doctors listened to us and our pleas to just treat our dysphoria, but our language didn’t fit necessarily with their worldview. They couldn’t accept that pre-transition trans men and trans women were actually men/women. That we had men’s/women’s bodies. That we were male/female. So we were coerced into using their language for us, in order to get the treatment we needed, to get any shred of support we could get. The cis-dominated structures of science and medicine are to blame for that sexism, cissexism, essentialism, etc. as well.
We’re just trying to get the help we need in a world that does not want us to get that help, and will generally only provide it if we tell them everything they want to hear. Some of the greener, fresh out of the closet trans folks push that sort of language/narrative hard, because it’s what they’re exposed to, it’s what they’re taught keeps them safe, and it’s pretty wrong to be critical of someone for surviving and actively reducing harm against themselves from society at large.
So if you get the urge to criticize a trans person for bringing that sort of thing up, maybe instead criticize the structures that prevent us from saying anything else.
This is really interesting and a perspective I hadn’t ever considered.
Trans men and women are pressured into performing masculinity or femininity more than cis men and women.
I used to think that trans people tended to be that way, then I realized society pressures them into it.
Whilst I, as a cis woman, can get away with speaking in public in jeans and a button down shirt (I do like to femme out when I feel like it, mind), a trans woman has to wear a dress and heels.
I, as a cis woman, can follow motor sports and like Top Gear. A trans woman who likes those things has to hide them.
And not only is this oppressive, but the pushing of trans women into stereotypically feminine roles can deny society the talents they may possess in traditionally masculine areas. The expectation to perform extreme femininity is likely to push trans women out of STEM, for example.
Trans men, on the other hand, are pushed even more into toxic masculinity and “macho” values than cis men. I don’t think it’s as much of a gap because the extreme forcing of gender roles is actually worse for men than it is for women. I can wear a pantsuit. If my husband were to wear a skirt… (He wouldn’t, he’s not the type, but…)
The moment I announced my transition to the public, someone I worked with on a professional level asked, incredulously, when I was going to start “dressing like a woman.”
I was wearing Tripp pants, a tank top, with a bra, and sneakers. I asked him what a woman dresses like? His answer “Well, that opens a whole can of worms.”
Yeah, you see what happened right there? Women are not expected to dress a certain way. But if I want to be seen as a woman, I have to dress drastically different from what I did before. I have to “show I want it.”
On top of that, if I hadn’t told my psychologist about how when I was a child I didn’t feel comfortable playing with boys or sports, she wouldn’t have approved me for Estrogen. She told me that because I didn’t wear makeup and lipstick, it was hard to “justify transitioning.”
We don’t do this to force women into feminine roles, but we are punished, neglected, and killed if we don’t match up with “feminine” or “masculine” based on what other people expect. It’s terrifying.
I think cis women are pushed into feminine roles. I have failed to get jobs because I insisted on wearing flats or did not wear makeup.
But trans women get it worse, because they are constantly having to prove that they’re women. And ironically, some of the people who harass trans women the most are the same people who tell cis women they’re “supporting patriarchy” if they wear makeup. (I only wear makeup when I have an actual reason to, because dang it, that stuff is expensive and annoying!).
I’m a trans therapist and I advise my trans clients to straight up lie to their doctors and other psychologists/psychiatrists if it gets them hormones. I tell them to make up the whatever stereotyped, unrealistic “trans narratives” they need to if it will get them access to hormones and surgeries they need. The medical system is not set up to protect or help us, it’s set up to safeguard cis people from being like us.
This is why the entire idea of gatekeeping and everything relating to it needs to be burned to the ground. If anyone tells you gatekeeping is a good idea–no matter whether they are cis or trans–they are wrong and they are condemning trans people to death.
this post could destroy the entire terf narrative about how trans people are reproducing essentialist gender roles and stereotypes
^Well…Idk might just be pearls to swine. Which is the usual case
TERFs have heard the same stuff that’s in this thread repeatedly over and over. They don’t care, because they’re not actually interested in ending misogyny, they’re interested in upholding the structures that provide them a sense of power and innate superiority.
I had a lot of radical feminist friends and mentors growing up, and they were trans-inclusive because they knew the above was true, and that cissexism, as a system of power that works to marginalize trans and nb and non-cis folks (on top of reproducing and upholding misogyny as well), was a clearly visible and real system of oppression once you actually cared to look. Like, this was before cissexism even had that name…they saw it, recognized it played a major part in the construction of misogyny, implemented it in their understanding of radical feminist theory and praxis, and they worked with me and other trans folks in my province/country to try and make things better.
TERFs, on the other hand, just…cannot accept it. They can’t, because it would undermine most if not all of their feminist belief’s foundation. So to protect their worldview, they react and lash out (backlash effect). They literally cannot accept it without also accepting that they’ve been wrong about much of their core views and beliefs, and their potential hypothetical human empathy towards trans people is infinitesimally smaller than that instinctive need to preserve themselves
It’s why there’s never any point in debating TERFs or engaging with them. I know, I spent close to a decade of my life trying. it’s not worth it. Even if it’s incredibly easy to prove their views on trans folks supposedly reproducing gender norms, they will never allow themselves to engage in evidence to the contrary