As promised we are slowly getting caught up and sharing the changes we have been making over the past several months.
First up on the changes we are making to save weight – SLEEP SYSTEM and TENT. I am including the tent since we sleep inside of it and it is our heaviest stand alone item. Every little bit we can cut here adds up quickly and will have lasting impact not only on how we sleep, which means we can take on the next day on the trail more rested, it also means that we save our knees & back in the long run.
For this, I am only comparing our sleeping bags which we switched to quilts, our pillows, pads and tent. We will still each plan on taking our sleeping bag liners, Sea to Summit Extreame, when we share our full gear list and weights, these will be included.
Welcome to our new home away from home on the trail! We set it up in our front yard, this is the ZPacks Duplex. Mark has plenty of head room in this Dyneema [formerly Cuben Fiber] tent. Dyneema is one of the strongest and lightest material on the planet, not only is it 15 times STRONGER than steel and Kevlar, it is also WATERPROOF! It is more expensive at around $32/yard verses about $22/yard on the highest end and $8/yd average on the lower end.
Weighing in at 22.5 oz in the bag including 10 stakes, it saves us considerable weight right off the get go.
The Duplex also uses 2 trekking poles (we used mine for the initial set up since they lock easily) and guidelines. It is not free standing, it can be made so, you have to order the parts from ZPacks. With sealed seams, it is a single walled marvel and is changing the backpacking world. You are hard to find a backpacker who has not heard of or know someone who does not have or know someone who has a Z-Pack tent it seems. It has a vestibule on either side so no crawling over each other in the middle of the night and it gives that outdoor space for packs and other gear we don’t want getting wet if and when it rains.
This is where except for our pillows which are not pictured here we changed from Slumberjack Camp Pillows to ExPed Air Pillows XL which come in at 3.6oz each.
Lets back to what we do have featured in the pictures. Starting with our sleeping pads.
Mark has opted for the most ultra light and newest technology for his, the ThermaRest NeoAir Uberlite in Regular Length is all of 9.7oz in the bag with an R-Value of 2.2. It packs down to 6 by 3.5 inches and is 20in wide by 72in long. Mark is also opting for weight savings and what he considers comfortable.
R-Value ratings are from 1.0 (minimally) to 9.5 (well insulated). You don’t need a super high R-Value unless you are in the snow or ice.
I need a bit more as far as far as how cold it is rated and height, so I went for the Q-Core SLX in Long – 17oz in the bag, which I don’t take, so it will be slightly less; for a side sleeper and someone who runs cold, this seemed to be my best option. Packing down to 4in by 8.5in in the stuff bag. Big Agnes, who makes the Q-Core SLX doesn’t use the typical R-Rating by degree rating which they rate this to 32F or 0C. It is 20in by 78in long, so more than long enough for someone who is almost 6′.
Next up, has to be one of my favorite things since we custom ordered them with our preferences.
We took the plunge and have decide to delve into the world of backpacking QUILTS compared to sleeping bags. Our Enlightened Equipment Revelation Custom Sleeping Quilts are our newest venture into lighter weight backpacking.
First, let me preface that, for us, it made sense to make the change not only for the sake of weight, in addition we did our research and knowing that the way you stay warm is with the loft of the fill in a sleeping bag or quilt and by laying on TOP of material and fill as with a traditional sleeping bag, a quilt eliminates almost all of that and is more like sleeping at home since you tuck it around you. Enlightened Equipment includes a few straps which help to secure your sleeping quilt to your sleeping pad to keep it from straying too far off during the night.
In the near future I will take you on a better tour of them and show how they attach to our sleeping pads.
We went back and forth between the Revelation and the Enigma, both of which have their advantages and disadvantages. In the end, we went with the Revelation given that it has a foot-box that we can undo completely and use the quilt as a regular quilt by the fire or for when it gets a bit warmer. The Enigma as a fulling enclosed foot-box, which cannot be opened for ventilation or so you can use it as a full open quilt. Something to consider if you make the jump into quilts as we have. Both are 850 DownTek filled Treated – how much fill in a given container – this is what gives you the warmth factor. After taking them on the trail we will give full reviews.
Lets look at Mark’s for a moment, his Navy and Graphite, EE Revelation is rated for 20F (-6.67C), is long and wide. Mark runs hot, and given that he is a side sleeper he wanted the extra width so make sure he was covered all the way; you can see hwo covered he is in the picture. 24.6oz according to EE on the bag they sent, so I will go with their numbers.
My Purple and Midnight Blue, EE Revelation is rated for 10F (-12.22C), so no cold feet for me while on the trail this time! I ordered mine in Long and Regular width, even though I am a side sleeper, I am not wide and after trying it out at home, I had plenty of room when wrapping it around me. Mine comes in at 26.9oz due to the higher temperature rating.
Now for what you all want to know, WHAT IS THE WEIGHT COMPARISON AND SAVINGS?!
EE Revelation Custom – 20F Long/Wide, 24.6 vs NorthFace 20F Cats Meow Long, 39oz = 14.4oz SAVED
ExPed Air Pillow XL 3.6oz vs SlumberJack Camp Pillow 8oz = 4.4oz SAVED
ThermaRest NeoAir UberLite Reg 9.7oz vs REI Flash Sleeping Pad Long 20oz = 10.3oz SAVED
TOTAL SAVINGS for MARK – 29.1 or 1.81lbs
EE Revelation Custom 10F Long 26.9oz vs NorthFace 20F Cats Meow Long, 39oz = 12.1oz SAVED
ExPed Air Pillow XL 3.6oz vs SlumberJack Camp Pillow 8oz = 4.4oz SAVED
Big Agnes Q-Core SLX Long 17oz vs REI Flash Sleeping Pad Long 20oz = 3oz SAVED
TOTAL SAVINGS for STEPH – 19.5oz or 1.22lbs
I didn’t save as much as Mark in this area, which is fine given that I run colder and need the bit of extra R-Value and temperature.
Z-Pack Duplex 22.5oz vs Eureka Pinnacle 2 – 96oz = 73.5oz SAVED
TOTAL SAVINGS – for Mark, Steph and the tent…
122.1oz = 7.63lbs SAVED!!
That is a HUGE difference. DISCLAIMER – the changes we have made, do run on the more expensive side, that’s part and parcel when you switch to lighter gear. Lighter materials do run more and are more durable as a rule.
I have added links to Zpacks duplex, Enlightened Equipment Revelation Custom Sleeping Quilts and the Dyneema sites for a mater of convenience. We are NOT affiliates and are linking to them, as a mater for sharing companies that we believe in. Zpacks and EE are both what we call cottage companies meaning that they are small companies and they take their time filling orders. You may wait a month or two for a tent or quilt since they make to order.
So with all this new gear, where are we headed this summer?? High Sierra Trail? Mount Whitney?
THAT answer is coming on WEDNESDAY of this week in a BONUS Post!!
Cutting Weight – Round 1 – Sleep System & Tent As promised we are slowly getting caught up and sharing the changes we have been making over the past several months.