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Mikey / he-him-his /TMA/ 23

[gender-philosopher]

-Intro poast-

Hello my name is Mike and this is my side blog for gender discourse. He/Him. Intersectional feminist, bisexual, Non-monogamous.

• I’m attempting discourse without name calling or misgendering. This includes if someone has expressed they shouldn’t be called certain words.

• I’m kind of normal about things. New to arguing on the internet! Not new but not a pro at social activism. I did anti-native-mascot work once.

• We can just chat. *discourse does not mean debate, but communication.

• Not tolerant of harassment or insults. I simply delete and ignore. Not caring about polluting the internet.

• Can reword things for better understanding! In other/more simple terms. And can address certain things- posts are not perfect.

• Will update this intro post as necessary thanks.

• Currently interested in what is masculinity & how it is viewed. Why do people say transgender people should not exist and are simply mentally ill?

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[yippeee-bunnies]

Juice that makes your fur shiny and your binkies stronger and your hindlegs soooo good at thumping

[yippeee-bunnies]

Pellets that make your fur softer and your ears so long&pretty and your dewlap the envy of the warren

[noblackwomannocry]

look I know some of you (see: the white they/thems in my notes who clearly agree with the foundation of my thoughts but think criticism of the TME/TMA dichotomy is too far and transmisogyny) are eager in your keenness to show that you are a good ally to trans women, but until you can explain to me why

using discrimination-first language for this specific group is useful or beneficial,

the usefulness or benefits of said language somehow do not apply to using discrimination-first language for literally any other group (e.g. antiblackness-exempt, racism-exempt, misogynoir-exempt),

you aren't describing yourself and your personal identity in this way in any other way (e.g. putting your antiblackness-exempt status in your bio rather than saying you are white), and

why "TME" is meant to include cis men but is just used as a shorthand to scream about AFABs (because they just want to complain about anyone they see as a cis woman)

I will not take any of it, or you, very seriously. go ahead and put misogynoir-exempt or misogynoir-affected in your bio if you find this framework useful. by the logic followed for the TME/TMA dichotomy it is indicative of both your racism and misogyny to not directly communicate where you lie here while sharing posts from me, a black woman, about these issues.

if that sounds a ridiculous to you: you are close to getting it!

[windwardstar]

Is that person transmasc or are they just on T? Is that person transfem or are they just on E? Is that person transfem or were they just assigned male at birth? Is that person transmasc or were they just assigned female at birth?

Is that person actually transmasc or transfem or are you just gendering hormones and body parts? Is that person actually transfem or transmasc or are you just equating agab with gender alignment?

Is that person actually transfem or transmasc or are you forgetting that unaligned and alternatively aligned enben exist?

[boybeetles]

You know I’m not that big of a fan about how trans men’s experiences are still centered around cis women and that there is a lot of people think that trans men’s experiences are just being “treated like a women” instead of a unique thing that cis women don’t experience at all.

[boybeetles]

Started thinking about this again because more and more articles about cis women taking T to increase their libido and make their clits bigger are being published. And I think this is the biggest way to show that the way cis women are perceived and how transmasculine people are perceived is radically different.

Even beyond people seeking hormone therapy, pre/no-T transmasculine people are treated differently, just go out and talk to transmasculine people and they will tell you that. I was treated differently than my cis girl peers before I came out, and when I was openly trans but pre-transition I still was treated differently than my cis girl peers.

I will always stand against the idea that trans men are ‘perceived as women’ because time and time again it’s shown we aren’t - when cisgender women do the same things transmasculine people do they are praised for taking agency, while transmasculine people are shamed and called manipulated.

We have more in common with other groups of feminized men then we do with cisgender women. It’s time people start approaching discussions about trans men from the perspective that they are a group of feminized men, instead of treating us like weird cis women.

[gender-philosopher]

Testosterone is a Schedule III controlled substance, on equal standing with Ketamine and Marijuana. “DIY HRT”, meaning the possession and administration of Testosterone without an active prescription is already a criminal act.

[rambling-crerchur]

Because testosterone is already a controlled substance and thus the posession of it as DIY HRT is already illegal. Trans men and transmascs have been talking about this for literal years. This is such a bizarre kneejerk, because instead of simply talking about how horrible the attempt to criminalize DIY estrogen is OP here immedeatly decides to make this about trans men and transmascs being less opressed.

[gender-philosopher]

This, I think, is an example of “oppression olympics”.

[sodomit]

Reposting the comic that got people on Twitter to call me Adolf Hitler.

[gender-philosopher]

For analysis purposes- this picture depicts harmful rhetoric coming from both the goat and the sheep.

The sheep is being harmful by saying “amab experience with manhood is cringe… lol”

The goat is being harmful by saying “if you want to be a man… you oppress women”

The coloration of the pink goat and blue sheep is painting the goat as a feminine character, in accordance with gender stereotypes, and the blue sheep a masculine one. For the same reasons.

The grey bunny in the center is symbolic of those outside of these stereotypes, nonconforming to them, or not identifying with them. The bunny also does not agree with what the goat or sheep is saying, and the question mark is puzzlement.

Your turn! Why do you think the rhetoric the goat and sheep are using are harmful?

[busket]

both trans men and trans women are punished for our proximity to both feminity and masculinity. people decide when we are men or women based on what is the WORST option at the moment. we both get treated like women only when someone needs to infantalize us or call us bossy, bitchy, stupid, vapid. we both get treated like men when someone wants to demonize and paint us as violent, predatory, abusive, perverted. NONE of us are benefiting from any gendered privilege, because we are always treated like the worst of either gender depending on the scenario. this is something all trans people experience, regardless of agab, both trans men and trans women. so why do we assume that the other side has the opposite experience as us?? why do you think that because your life as a trans man or a trans woman is painful, that a trans person of a different gender must have the opposite experience?? like i just dont get the preschool level understanding of gender like "well boys and girls are opposites so of course our experiences are opposites too" we are living the same transphobia and if you cant see it you need to listen to other people more

[gender-philosopher]

Remember Juniper Blessing. She paid the ultimate price for doing nothing wrong.

[transfemme-shelterdog]

If what you get from this situation is that "It's not fair that a trans man can play in women's sports, but trans women can't", then you're a piece of shit transphobe.

Do you really think it's a good thing that in order for a trans man to have a career, he had to stop taking life saving medication, and take on the role of a "woman" by playing women's sports? Nobody is stopping transfems from detransitioning and playing on the men's team. Why don't they? Oh, because they don't want to stop life saving medication and go back to being masculine? Gee whiz, that really sucks now doesn't it?

This man didn't want to do this, but he has to because of the system set up that forces him to. Why not have some sympathy for him, instead of crucifying yourself on a cross of your own creation?

[gender-philosopher]

It is super fucked up that trans women are barred! And it is not Isaac’s fault. Isaac is not a traitor to transgender people, nor is Isaac contributing to the hate trans women get. Trans people don’t need to be pioneers for trans rights, they just often are because they are forced to navigate a world not made for them! Isaac should not have to give up any joy of life because of rules.

Transgender people often must stick up for ourselves, but being transgender does not place the responsibility of being a proponent of social change on you. It’s enough to just be transgender and live your life.

[awwbrie]

wow that's wonderful news im glad that a trans woman is getting to join a women's soccer tea-

...oh

how the fuck is this worth celebrating, this trans guy medically detransitions to go play for the women's team while trans women are still fully banned from playing. and wow *he* gets to feel safe and included in the women's team but fuck any trans women who want to join.

[gender-philosopher]

The trans man, Isaac, deserves to feel safe too though, no? If Isaac was born and taught that he is a woman- if Isaac came from a life of womanhood to be the guy he is now- why should he have to exclude himself from where he feels safest? Is it transmisogynistic of a person to be included in a group with your natal sex?

In sports, it is a sex-based segregation. So “women’s” teams actually act as female teams. That is not fair, and the basis of gendered segregation is sports is not on gender, but the difference of biology of the players. As “women” are regarded as females and females are regarded as weaker. This is why trans women are the target of bans from women’s teams, their “biology” is constantly cited.

So if females aren’t weaker, why support the gendered segregation at all? If females are weaker, why does the gender of the person matter? If the segregation is about social purity (keeping girls with girls and boys with boys) why uphold the social purity? Is it for the… safety of the players?

[lazish-moon]

Ngl being trans and having a sibling of the opposite sex is not for the weak

[uhnonymoos]

"transfems can have sex life and maybe even talk about it and maybe even a lot to someone or somewhere" and "transfems existing isn't inherently sexual" is something that must coexist by DEFAULT if you see transfems as human as you see everyone else

[gender-philosopher]

So I know we’re staying hopeful and not giving into fear but HYPOTHETICALLY does anyone have a plan if the Giant Surveillance Company that has access to the USA’s and UK’s national medical records and uses facial recognition technology on the streets… STAY WITH ME, HYPOTHETICALLY- if the next step was to use this setup to go after a group in the medical system to exterminate them- does anyone have a plan?

[puppygirllaika]

i don't know. maybe we are all fucked. maybe there really is nothing worth saving.

[puppygirllaika]

people in the notes trying to turn this around seem to be missing out on the context that it was posted in the middle of the night five minutes after I learned that a 19 year old trans girl in my city was stabbed to death yesterday. to hell with all of it. to hell with this country, to hell with this world, to hell with this society we've built that not only allows but encourages this. to hell with all of it.

[puppygirllaika]

i've talked a lot about the internal discord between a principle of and belief in rehabilitative justice and the desire to strike back at those who have done horrible things, and this is what i mean. because i do believe everyone deserves the right to a second chance. the right to change. the right to live. but what i believe isn't always what i feel. because god damn it all if i don't want to see the guy who did this hanging from the highest yardarm with his skin peeled back and his raw muscles burning in the midday sun as he screames out his final breath into a world as uncaring and uninterested in his continued life as he was in hers. i want to see him suffer. i want to see him die slowly, and i want to see the same of everyone who has enabled the world in which someone like him could feel so hateful and empowered as to kill a teenage girl for the fact of her birth and her bravery in existing. i want it to hurt, and i want him to know that he deserves it. i want him to feel the helplessness of living in an uncaring world.

[gender-philosopher]

What the actual fuck is going on