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[haidasalu]

As I've wanted to test my writing abilities, I turned a bit of a joke idea into an interactive readable story!

DELTASHINE: A Deltarune x Sun And Moon Show AU

DELTASHINE takes place in 2013, where Mr. Rayblight and his family run a business at a TV Film studio. Blight, as the owner and host of the studio, runs up contestants for his gameshows while his brother Mallard manages everything from behind the curtains.

Noah helps the studio as head of Human Resources while the family's youngest sibling, Tesha, helps as head of Production.

The family has gone through a LOT of trauma and is still effected by it, hoping to push past it and move on from the pain they endured. It's gotten so bad that the family friend, Veil, is stressing about it!

Do you think they're going to heal? What do you think caused their torment? Do you think something big is going to RUIN everything? Only time will tell.

Art work and additional details will eventually be added as well, and you're free to request what you want in the story and ask questions!

Want to know more? Start reading NOW!

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Do keep in mind that it is a work in progress, so there's also a lot of characters with no roles yet.

Feel free to suggest what character you want added and what role you think they should have in the story!

[haidasalu]

Human Fashion

The Judge (Beta Design) created by me

Vannemon Von Hellen Fiæ created by @modded-deathz

Color palette may vary.

From Above, Below, Grassy Lands, and Death's Purgatory, I welcome you my Inferno Capital.

I just thought it would be funny.

[haidasalu]

WALTEN FILES THEORY?

The ramblings of a tired idiot. Random shit, GO! after watching that ep, I feel like i'm going insane with the way everything clicked for me. like- I'm thinking Bon genuinely IS jack, not just a theory, not just a side piece for a ghost. but the big man himself. and i feel like i'm going more insane because I'm thinking "Bon's funeral" for the "WF store" videos was foreshadowing faces of grief, that the ghost and jack's fucked up lake self are one-to-one including the suit, sha and bon being representations of Rose and Jack, including the noncanon alts like Pumpkin Rabbit and Witch Sheep and Joy and Immortality. and then getting this dumbass idea that Pumpkin Rabbit, Witch Sheep, Joy, Immortality, Bon, and Sha all represent a different twisted version of Jack and Rose through different views of timelines or time frames.

Pumpkin Rabbit and Witch Sheep = past, wanting children and being a happy, loving couple Joy and Immortality = present, jack and rose fucked up more ways then one where one is setting up control and the other focuses too much on things that go downhill. Bon and Sha = the future. anew or generally broken people that now stick together till death do they part. or hell, pumpkin and witch are the future/present while bon and sha are the past.

bon and sha being the loving couple while witch and pumpkin fuckin suffer from their consequences of the shit they did. like child abuse. hm. who else committed child abuse? rosemary. jack committed child neglect. IM GOING CRAZZZZY. also crazy to think that the pumpkin and witch store video advertising the plushies basically shows off some stuff from return of the pumpkin rabbit while also maybe showing what happened to Billy.

IM GONNA GO INSANE. IT HAS TO BE JACK. ALSO THE FUCKIN- UH. THING WITH BON CALLING FOR EDD AND MOLLY. THE ONLY ONE WITH A HUGE CONNECTION TO THE WALTEN CHILDREN not to mention the gentle nature, the strange personal connection to rosemary, and the idea that Jack was hiding something while feeling as tho he had to be the one to handle everything. the phone call from jack also sounds like he was dying, a theory being he got shot, either by himself or by someone else. i'm forgetting the timeline but- susan and charles(i think thats his name?) died after bon was- possesed right? so- if thats true, then jack going missing, bon getting ghosted and killing the other two, it- has to line up, right? with that. i'm thinking uh- sha and bon are equal to jack and rose. rocket is edd and molly but they're being puppeted around and excluded, so- what if susan and charles were suppose to replace them in a way using banny and boozoo? what if sophie is next becuuse she's the last walten to be made beautiful from the ugly tragedy.

all the sad faces are ugly. bon is trying to be the "strong man" and make people happy that are associated with the family in some way. those who were affected. sophie's next because she still suffers. ALSO JACK SAYS BEAUTIFUL. to sophie's drawing. he says "beautiful". beauty is apart of jack's character now. yeup. he also says this with sincerity. with awe. with some kind of passionate emotion rather then something malicious.

also when bon is telling the story to rose, the man in the suit looks really close to jack. just like the spirit. cuz at first i was thinking maybe it was bon's spirit, but then before that it seemed like it was the spirits of susan and charles. so maybe the shadow is from them. or from the "shadow man" that was talked about in the previous videos. apparently he's in the background of rose and sohpie's scene, "i killed them. i'm a bad mother." idfk

when bon had his hands up like a prayer, it was like he was talking to someone. i think after he killed rosemary. or right when he was explaining wonderland but. and i'm thinking he was talking to the shadow man?

also the body language with bon and voice i. i like a lot 👉 👈 bon was so gentle but it also seemed like he was very eager to touch rosemary. or- kill her. his hands always moving even after he's done talking. the moment Rose gets really close.

and the way he pulled at his head and face and mouth, made me think he's showing off. or- just again, very eager. or excited? it seemed like bon was really happy to see rose or talk to her i also just really really really love the details with bon hugging rose, like- the way he tried to rub her back but couldn't touch her. but you could still hear the joints and metal moving when he's doing it. and despite that stiffness before, when he's talking to sha and knealing, he's a lot more bendable and flexiable. which is also a neat detail almost bibical.

oh my god. bon has a beating heart inside of him. IM GOING INSANE. "and who are you now?" rose asks. a beating heart is shown in bon's fuckass chest.

A HEART. LIKE A HUMAN. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

ITS HAS TO BE JACK. ESPECIALLY WITH EDD AND MOLLY. people say in the comments of the video that he's restraining himself from killing rose. and i can see that. but I can't get over the fact that, at least personally, Bon seems to genuinaly love Rose and have some personal connection with her. to where he says "I love you" in the most human way he can in comparison to "you are happy." - "you are loved"

he's shaking and pulling at himself and looking around and having bloodshot eyes n shit, because he's so eager to kill, right? but maybe it's also because he's emotional. he's happy to see his wife again. he's over the moon in a very twisted way because.

he doesn't remember who he is. or he doesn't want to. he's rather ashamed. He made himself anew. he corrected himself. he is Bon The Hare. so why would he have to bother with an identity that was burnt to every fiber and rotting (HMmmmm) when he's beautiful now. like Sophie's drawing of her dad. Beautiful. but despite all that, he still remembers Rosie. how could he forget?

HMMMM

also when bon says his "canvas" was "torn apart, burnt to the last fiber, rotting" he's saying "burnt" in the most rage in comparison to the other two exambles. and what does bon's ghost look like ? burnt. his face looks burnt. crispy. even a little rotten. with only his head clear while the rest of his body is elangated and unidentified.

hey, doesn't pumpkin rabbit, the alternate version of Bon, have a burnt face? also interesting that Bon's lazy eye is just blacked out or missing on Pumpkin Rabbit. HM.

and rose's vision of where she thought Jack was also shares the same facial features as bon's ghost.

HMMMMM we also don't get to see Jack's other eye. or lazy eye. Wait. he doesn't have one, does he? or maybe one would have one if it was popped out. or shot out. or maybe melted out of the skull. HMMM

susan had a snapped neck, that's visible, rose has torn off limbs, charles got mauled, but Bon- looks burnt. no hair either, like it was burnt off. crispy. rotten. and unidentified. like he went missing. and i'm thinking a "canvas" is a person's body, soul, or identity.

HMMMMMMMMMMM

AM I COOKIN OR WHAT?

[haidasalu]

DAVIS! MAKE SUN A DRAG QUEEN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!

It could expand on his character development!!!!

And for those that might think this, a person or character is not required to be queer in order to be a drag queen or drag king. Drag is fit for anyone, regardless of identity.

Sun is, as far as TSAMS has shown countless times, not queer. And likely will never be. And that's okay! And it's okay to also headcanon him to be queer, transfem, pan, etc. Pop off, Monarch!

But its also important to be aware of the differences. Especially when it can fall under stereotyping. Which is, at least personally, why I think it would be incredible to have Sun in TSAMS be a straight cis male drag queen, because anyone can be. And could represent people who may even have been stereotyped already because of it. Idk, I think the drag community should have some love like the LGBTQ+ community and every other.

Also, I'm sure you can still get a queer drag queen or king in TSAMS with Dahlia. (If Dahlia can fit into drag with headcanons, or if TSAMS actually explores drag for Dahlia.) So, there can be two sides of one coin represented.

Or, that's just me. Idk. Happy Vibes All Around!!!

[haidasalu]

TSAMS SHIP IDEAS

Call me the idea guy cause like. I got ideas.

So, people in every fandom are going to have ships and TSAMS has quite a lot. But dare I give some suggestions or ideas to spice it up? Of course, some of these will likely be revisted/wellknown while others might be new or completely unheard of. A Rarepair if you will. So, let's get started.

Henry x Eclipse, people like this one. And I always thought it was interesting just in the sense of like- One can teach the other about parenting while also teaching tolerance and empathy. Something Eclipse kinda- was learning in his redemption arc, only makes sense Henry would help with that, right?

Plus it's like- old man yaoi or something. technically. kinda of. One sided but like- who isn't nowadays?/j "Ooooo but it's so gross. human and robot!!??" EXACTLY. FORBIDDIN LOVERS. BUT IT'S NOT ILLEGAL. pretty sure people are sexting robots in the modern year, I don't think a fictional more understandable version of that would be that wild of a concept. like- what them hands do, yknow?

Ruin x Eclipse, People also like this one. I enjoy it myself because in a sense it can also act as a "self love" kind of allagory or- literally. If Moon isn't there, then it might as well be Ruin since he already figured it out. Plus, Ruin has more experience with romance. wowza!

Plus it can be very angsty, "YOU rebuilt this body. I am not me. FREE ME FROM THIS ACHING BODY!!!!" "oy, relax luv, it's just the back pain again."/j

Chico x Earth x Harvest, this is like- this exists. But like. what if you added Andromeda, too? Idk, gives more reason for Andy to exist while also bonding with Harvest more and seeing more cuter moments. idk. a lot of toothrotting fluff. I can imagine Harvest being gentle with her in some kind of way, maybe in an angsty way where she's reminded of Day&Night and Chico and Earth try and help them out. maybe they all go out for ice cream and the four of them make out sloppy after that. idfk man.

Carme x Dahlia, I just think it's funny. and cute. Work buddies becoming besties or more. Probably helps with a lot of fluff stuff. It would also be a funny concept if they became friends with benifits and just made inside jokes about it. Nothing else changes other then private interactions and even then, they'd laugh their asses off at anyone trying to understand.

Moon x Eclipse, c'mon. It's literally the perfect angst. Like- imagine the idea of Eclipse following Moon around just to study his mannerisims, looking over every inch of his body to study every crease, crack, or dent, and even mimicking Moon's body language. All while in the back of Eclipse's mind, "...My Face, My Voice. I want it. I need it. Even for just one night." Using Moon's body like a doll, the very thing Moon fears, and poking and pulling on every sensitive part. Just to see where it can fit on his body. Or even just the touch can feel like home.

"My Body has been ripped from me. And yet it stands right in front of me. It lures me right to you. The one that took it, that left me to rot. At least let me feel it one last time. What it feels to be in my own skin."

Or y'know. Eclipse and Moon arguing for 10hours ASMR.

Sun x Eleanor, even if it was one-sided, I think it would be really funny. And maybe a confidence booster for Sun. Especially with how persistent she is. It would also just be really funny considering Sun and Eleanor are both voiced by Davis.

If there aren't any names for the ship yet, you could call it FlamingTea or Glitterflame. Or come up with names, discuss.

Eclipse x Miku, specificly the villain gamers version. I don't know if it's because of just how Davis and Kat are, but Eclipse and Miku in those videos always had some kind of chemistry to me. But nobody ever really does much with that idea. Especially since that version of Eclipse seems more jolly, too. In a weird twisted way, the disturbing comforts the disturbed while playing gang beasts together.

"She spies on you while you're sleeping!!! She sniffs your clothes!! SHE WATCHES YOU SHOWER!"

"yeahh, but she doesn't lie to me and says I'm better then Moon."

"GOD DAMN IT, ECLIPSE."

Wheatly x Carme, I just think it would be funny. maybe it's fluff. maybe it's more. If you can turn it into angst, color me shocked. Maybe it's just a situation where one day they just- say something about each other's hyperfixation or have a moment of mutual understanding and they go from there. maybe it's instant sloppy toppy. who knows! But I know for certain, it would be hilarious.

Nexus x Dahlia, it might be based on my dumbass AU but, pretend Nexus never died after the wither storm and he's just concious again. He'd fight Dahlia on a daily basis because of the fact they're essentially both aggressively combat-centric magic users. I can imagine Nexus stalks him and catcalls and mocks them in every encounter they have.

"You can do better then that, Flower Boy!"

"That's it, hit me like you mean it, Baby!"

"Don't get your antenaes in a twist, Petals."

"Don't leave me hangin', Babe!"

They rival each other in battle but love the thrill because they know there's no competition so they also refuse to kill each other because they like coming back, yknow what I mean?

Maybe ship names can be WitherFlower or TheKillingKind/ref, idfk??

Any thoughts you'd like to share? or maybe more ships to add?

Happy Vibes All Around!

[haidasalu]

TSAMS THEORY TIME!!!!

So. Killer Sun, right? Or Phillip. People are wondering who the mole is in The Moon Haven. People say Wheatly, or Rust, or both, or Mel even.

But, why them? how is it them? Because I'm taking my bets... on someone else. Someone we met but, don't know much on. Someone... that's relatively been in the background, but would have information about all the citizens of Moon Haven. I'm talking, SPARKLE MOON!!!!! The glittery British Moon voiced by Davis that seems to be the big boss for the entire operation. He's the one that would have information on Carmine and all the others, because he's the leader, right? He's the only one that has brought up how Wheatly is very useful, insisting that the smartest and detailed-centric Moon in the council, Rust, should have a very talkative little guy like Wheatly around him in his workspace at all times. And Rust is also associated with dimensional technology and science, he's the one that would also know most about Killer Sun's abilities because of that and because he's working directly with the guy that's been recently affected by Killer Sun. And if Wheatly does what he's told without any doubts about who he gets orders from, dare I say as the gossipy little scamp that he is, the head of the council would not have any obstacles about any kind of information. And Smoke, Mel, Ringmaster moon(i wanna call them Fable maybe), Our Moon and Carmine would all be distracted by Wheatly's natural charm to not focus on the guy collecting information and possibly handing it out to the likes of Killer Sun. Why do they want Killer Sun? so they don't die? So no other Moon gets killed? alright, sure. But who would've been the one to start this whole ordeal to begin with? Sparkle Moon. But they just want to capture him. right? Or, maybe only Sparkle Moon does. Why would Rusty, Mel, Fable, Smoke, or Our Moon want Killer Sun alive? for what purpose? Carme's a doormat and wouldn't want to wish death on anyone(or rather wouldn't want to get involved with homicide willingly), nor is he a council member and is not associated with the plan until way later. Our Moon has constant memory issues because of Killer Sun and, as far as we know now, is terrified and upset about the bastard. So why would Moon want him alive? Rust is more analytical about things, so he'd likely want to use Killer's power or- something, but he also is not opposed to just getting rid of him entirely. He would not care what happens to him, so why would he want Killer alive? Melancholy is in the same boat as Rusty, not caring about Killer Sun's status, though she isn't as involved as the others, so why would she want Killer Sun alive? Smoke is a magic user, as far as we know, he COULD try using magic for defenses. But, why would he care if Killer is alive? Fable, or Ringmaster moon, we don't know shit about them and I don't think they're even associated with the plan. As far as we know, they practically don't matter. Or maybe they're the mole. who knows! Wheatly isn't even apart of the plan, he just hears things and yaps a lot. As far as we know, he could be a likely suspect because he seems suspicious. But we should also remember that Wheatly doesn't know how to follow directions that well. He also typically doesn't keep his mouth shut. So he's more of a red herring. and no one else has the same knowledge on Killer Sun as the council would, which only leaves Sparkle Moon. Am I cookin' or what?

[haidasalu]

SHIT TAKE

Okay so like... what the fuck does this mean?

What do you mean your Rusty's BOSS? Whats Technical about it? How is a Doormat Therapist who doubles as a Café owner a Boss to one of an entire COUNTRY OF MOONS's Council members????

Like. We know Rusty is apart of the Council. Pretty much the people that dictate what happens to the home of civilians.

He's like- the lead scientist? Inventor? Right? Thats what we've been shown so far.

So. How is Carmine a boss of a council? What does that mean? Are you some kind of Tyrant, sir?/j

What is the hierarchy here?

Sparkle Moon, idk if he has a name, seems like the big dog. The Boss of the entire operation, right?

Melancholy, idk what she does. Take care of orphans? Caretaker for kids? Is she a teacher like Joy or is the orphanage a side hobby? Does she work medicine? Or is that too traumatic for her.

Smoke, I like to call him Centipede but, we know he's the Council's magic user. The contractor. The guuuuuy with the magic stuff. Maybe the boss of magic users? Idfk.

Ringmaster Moon, what do they do??? Are they an advisor or? Like, what?

So. Where does Carmine fit? Is he a council member? Cause like. I'm pretty sure he's the one that gets bossed around. Like, he has to ask for permission on like- the missions and stuff. So like- if he's a boss, why would he need permission to go after Dark Sun? Why would he talk about Dark Sun like he's not involved in the investigation or hunt?

So, did Carmine say that to make Moon feel better?? Cuz. That's an odd way of doing it considering he's never lied about- anything? As far as I'm aware, he keeps secrets. Doesn't lie. Whimsical with humor regarding self image.

Where does that relate to this? Cause I think Carme has a checked ego. Unless there's something else he hasn't revealed.

Idk. I guess I'm just confused?

Because for the Sun Sanctuary, it's more clear.

Sebastian is a council member, but he works as the principal for the school. He's in charge of the teachers like Joy.

Joy is a council member who acts as a caretaker.

Sol is the big dog, the boss.

There's a clear hierarchy here. Sol on top, Sebastian as middle ground, Joy on the bottom.

They all are important, but we know who has more jurisdiction.

Dahlia is not in the Council, we know Sol is Dahlia's boss. Dahlia has to make reports and ask for permission when doing missions.

He is established to be the head of magic users, as far as what little was told, and is an exmilitary commander and soilder.

WE GET CLEAR SHIT GOING ON HERE!!!! And if Dahlia and Carme are in equal positions, then why did Carmine bring up he was Rusty's boss???

"Technically"

Wdym by that? Like. Are you his boss or not? Am I missing something??

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Mightve been exhausted. It happens.

But that still leaves the question on what the hierarchy of Moon Haven is. Cuz we don't know shit about like- most of them. Few don't have names.

Name ideas?

Sparkle Moon. Uh more like- Glitterpants/j or like- Milkyway or something.

Smoke, What about Centipede? Just give him bug legs on his hat and pinchers on his face, yknow?

Melancholy? Not actually a bad name. Its cute. I like it.

Rust? More like. Uh. Tetanus/j or. Uh. Idk. Rusty is fine.

Ringmaster Moon? Uh. More like, who the fuck are you???/j could name them Jibly or Ron. Or like. Fable. Idk.

[haidasalu]

This fandom is a prison and I hate it here.

And then Tyrant will probably die in a few months after being revealed. And then it's off to the next villain. Can't even buy him a drink, he'll just choke on it.

And my idea for Sun being Tyrant is... dead.

Man, when people theorized if Ruin was gonna betray everybody, it actually meant something. Because people kept second guessing themselves and thinking there would be another option.

Obviously, my king Ruin is nowhere similar to Tyrant. Most likely anyway, you could never replace the goat. But Ruin had the mystery like Tyrant is suppose to have, yes we don't know whats going to happen, but when your bad guys are dropping like flies in just a few months, TWO ALREADY ONE AFTER THE OTHER, the mystery and vibe of this character gets thrown out the window because, at least I, am expecting the guy to die just like Titan and Overseer.

And then what? Also kill off characters just becuase you need someone to die? Might as well be Sun and Terra because they're the only ones who didn't get a turn on death row.

But that would actually MEAN something, at least for Sun, because we got to see years of development and characterization.

AT LEAST GIVE TYRANT THE OCTOBER TAKEOVER. PLEEEEASE. TYRANT, BRING BACK OCTOBER TAKEOVERS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!

If the show averts my expectations. I welcome that. And Carmine is just named that with no correlation to the color Red on his design. Other then Pink but. Then you would just call him "Pinkie", no?

Even Carmilla Carmine has red and its the demon eyes. Which is bare minimum but at least you can't say its false advertising.

Also is it "Rigel" or "Regal"? Because one is about space and the other is about royalty. So like. You can't have both.

Unless... he's a knight from spac-💥 HE'S FROM A CIRCUS!!!!!!

And yes, I'm bitter.

[theunknownjester]

…. Wow just wow

cant believe carmine really pulled the “well you know what’s wrong so you don’t need help!” Like he knows what’s wrong with himself and NEEDS help!?! Thats why he’s asking!

(Carmine didn’t have to help him but THATS was the worst thing to say) also basically just saying he’s broken with anger issues and theirs nothing to do about it

I was iffy on carmine character and this makes me honestly hate him a little

Because also he never really helps anyone stop marketing yourself as a “therapist” when you don’t help

Like in the end he suggests other people to help him but what he said still caused a lot of harm and it seems he wouldn’t have suggest anyone else until Solar basically begged him for help

[haidasalu]

I fucking hate Solar.

But I have to agree.

As someone who has experience with a therapist, being aware of your issues and asking for help by a professional gives them no right to say "you already know whats wrong, so i can't help."

YES THE FUCK YOU CAN. THE WHOLE POINT IS TO WORK THROUGH YOUR ISSUES. GET BETTER. Its not just the feelings, it's also the mental and psychological aspect too.

Anger issues is something to work through therapy. A therapist has resources to give you for that AS WELL as having the professional right to talk you through it and suggests ways of comfort.

Yes, anger management would be more different, but that doesn't disregard what a regular therapist can do for you.

Therapy is about your WELLBEING, not just your feelings.

...it sucks, cuz I was warming up to Carmine and Dahlia.

Also, now I'm bitter that I can relate to solar. HE HAS POTENTIAL. AND IT'S WASTED. AND I GET CONFLICTED BECUASE THERES SMALL GOOD MOMENTS. ITS HAZBIN HOTEL ALL OVER AGAIN.

He gets so close. They better make a whole arc to fix the shitshow that was The Overseer Arc.

I'm hoping that these flaws are intentional. But given Terra, Solar, and even Moon, I'm worried.

[thevillainband]

THE VILLAIN BAND, A TSAMS AU

You know them, you LOVE them, and you've missed them too! Now they're back in this AU, except, they never died. And you get to see how they dominate the competition! Interact with them, watch their lives unfold, discover secrets! It's all for YOU!

Want to know how the story unfolds? Their backstories? How the band was formed?

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RUIN HAS BEEN ADDED, and right on his birthday too! Happy July 16th!

Who will be added next? I have two characters in mind, but you can also suggest some villains too. This is a universe where none of them died, after all.

REQUESTS AND ASKS ARE OPEN!!! NO LIMITS!

Come back to check for post updates!!

There will be more reference sheets and content to share, so Stay Tuned!!!

[haidasalu]

Do you like The Sun And Moon Show? Then you must've missed the villains too!

Well, now they're back! As if they never died!

A new universe where your favorite villains never died in a comediac and angsty idol group that wants You to drop everything and Join The Band!<3

You can ask questions and request whatever you want for The Villain Band! Don't be shy, they don't bite!

Well, all of them do... but maybe you're into that.

[weirdcoregal35]

A while back, there was this wild TSAMS theory that Nexus, why he named himself that, was because he had a connection to something. Like he was closer to being a human or something.

The definition of Nexus:

Now, I searched this up a while ago, but I thought it was just an EMO name. Looking at the new episodes…he actually did have a connection. To the wither storm.

…

HE NAMED HIMSELF NEXUS BECAUSE HE HAD A CONNECTION TO THE WITHER STORM THIS ENTIRE TIME! THE FUCKING CLEVER BASTARD-

I’m tweaking out cause I JUST realized this. I had my doubts, BUT I CAN SEE IT! THIS ENTIRE TIME!!

[dm-merengiyuu]

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE, WHAT IF SOL IS PREZ EARTHS SUN. WHAT IF HE WAS PLANTED TO TAKE OVER THE SUN SANTURARY

NOT ONLY COULD SOL BE TYRANT, BUT ALSO PREZ EARTHS SUN. IT MAKES THE CONNECTION MAKE SO MUCH SENSE, AND HOW WE NEVER SEE PREZ EARTHS PEOPLE OTHER THAN THE GREEN FOLKS AND MONTY. THATS WHAT THEIR SUN WOULD BE DOING, AND ALL OF THIS WOULD EXPLAIN WHY PREZ EARTH HAS BEEN BUILT UP TO BE SUCH A HUGE VILLAIN ACROSS TWO DIFFERENT SHOWS.

Wait, what if they have someone at the moon haven... no... maybe.

[skeinvelity]

TSAMS THEORY AHEAD!!!

Person in the photos: @sass-ruby :3

[haidasalu]

Thats actually such a great theory, holy shit. As a Ruin fan, you opened my eyes.

[sunniechippers]

debating whether or not to share my "Tyrant is currently imprisoned in a statue with magic in sun Sanctuary" theory .. so you're currently the sounding board.

Basically, with what we know is he's been there a while, right? And a lot of people think he's disguised himself. But what if he hasn't?

What if, maybe Dark Sun, maybe a different sun with magic who sacrificed themself to do this, turned him to stone in a forest clearing of the sanctuary when he tried to infiltrate and the only way to undo it is another magic user touching the statue. But only Dark Sun knew about it and thought he'd never have to worry about it so didn't tell anyone or put up a sign or something

And that's how he's been plotting, been planning. The statue is so covered with plant life(now in a courtyard of one of the important buildings) no one knows what's underneath.... most magic users get bad feelings from it and avoid. But he can still hear them, still think... He's been plotting this whole time...

And just all it takes is one little magic user getting too close, maybe a stressed one that would ignore the bad feeling, maybe one that's still being trained and doesn't know what it would be unleashing by touching the seemingly pillar of moss to lean on and accidentally brushing against stone.

Someone like... our Sun.

Ooo. That sounds cool. Fanfic writers..I call upon thy!

[tvstaticsolo]

You know who this mf look like, lowkey?

LOOOK!!!

[haidasalu]

I hate that they actually have physical similarities.

[spawnedaxe]

GUYS I HAD A COOL IDEA FOR WHEATLEYS SUN !! (Tsams)

So, from my information almost every sun and moon are the same sex, they’re made either a man or a woman

It can be safe to assume Wheatleys sun is Glados, right? Glados is mainly portrayed as a woman in portals.

so, what if, here me out now: Glados / Sun is trans feminine ???

Wouldn’t that be so cool??

#can that be canon

[haidasalu]

TSAMS Tyrant Theory/Idea

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What if Sun becomes Tyrant?

Sun has watched his family die while essentially living through a sense of Survivor's guilt, or developing it (I fucking hope so, it just makes sense) while working with different versions of himself that he can see himself in. Dahlia and Carmine had been guiding him on how to be assertive and confident with combat and magic as well.

Sun is continously shown to be perfect with weapons such firearms, but also has experience with swords. With is a commonly depicted weapon for Tyrant who shares similarities/traits to a knight.

What are knights? Strong and loyal fighters who are meant to protect who they're assigned to. Like kings(or leaders like Moon), or princesses(like what Terra likes to call herself or his daughter), or maybe family.

But what is a Tyrant? Someone who is an opposite to a knight. Controlling, apathetic, and one can be a Tyrant by... overthrowing a King. Or being trusted the role and abusing the power.

What if Sun becomes confident enough to find his own purpose, where his worldview changes because of the people around him.

Sol, a Leader, may... trust Sun with a certain position.

Dahlia, a soilder or Knight, may teach Sun apathy. Empathy can be tool, but also a great weakness, afterall.

Carmine, expert with combat, may teach Sun more ways on how to use a weapon when Magic can't be enough. What better weapon thats close to a scythe then a sword that Sun has experience with?

Sun may see what Nexus saw in his family, Nexus haunts his dreams, after all. Maybe Sun gets fed up with the empty promises, constant verbal abuse, neglect, and carelessness from Moon, Solar, Monty, and Terra (Cosmos is the victim in these scenerios so he'd be there to ground the situation like he's always done. The goat) and reach a breaking point.

And if Cosmos sides with the family, one could call him a traitor. And dictators tend to punish those that act against them. Say, like how Nexus lashed out.

Basically, what if Tyrant is a warped version of Sun's entire being. More skilled and calculated while still showing empathy to those he believes deserves it, like maybe his daughter.

Sun BECOMING Tyrant is way more interesting, because it would actually mean something to his character. If Tyrant was just an Alternate Sun, it wouldn't carry the same impact. I mean, look what happened to Titan.

To add onto this, what if Dazzls was the princess in the castle? Tyrant as Sun still carries the same care he's always had for her, and so throughout the whole situation, he plays a game with her. To play Princesses and stay up in the castle while the Knight, Tyrant/Sun, protects her. All while operating whatever kind of scheme he's planning. Maybe brainwashing like President Earth, or just genocide like Ruin. (Except Ruin didn't have a choice, Sun would.)

Also to put a bow on the idea, Tyrant likes hotcakes because he makes them for his daughter. 🎀

(Art belongs to @/ayyy-imma-ninja or Meg)

What do y'all think?