#tsbs theory

[haidasalu]

This fandom is a prison and I hate it here.

And then Tyrant will probably die in a few months after being revealed. And then it's off to the next villain. Can't even buy him a drink, he'll just choke on it.

And my idea for Sun being Tyrant is... dead.

Man, when people theorized if Ruin was gonna betray everybody, it actually meant something. Because people kept second guessing themselves and thinking there would be another option.

Obviously, my king Ruin is nowhere similar to Tyrant. Most likely anyway, you could never replace the goat. But Ruin had the mystery like Tyrant is suppose to have, yes we don't know whats going to happen, but when your bad guys are dropping like flies in just a few months, TWO ALREADY ONE AFTER THE OTHER, the mystery and vibe of this character gets thrown out the window because, at least I, am expecting the guy to die just like Titan and Overseer.

And then what? Also kill off characters just becuase you need someone to die? Might as well be Sun and Terra because they're the only ones who didn't get a turn on death row.

But that would actually MEAN something, at least for Sun, because we got to see years of development and characterization.

AT LEAST GIVE TYRANT THE OCTOBER TAKEOVER. PLEEEEASE. TYRANT, BRING BACK OCTOBER TAKEOVERS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!

If the show averts my expectations. I welcome that. And Carmine is just named that with no correlation to the color Red on his design. Other then Pink but. Then you would just call him "Pinkie", no?

Even Carmilla Carmine has red and its the demon eyes. Which is bare minimum but at least you can't say its false advertising.

Also is it "Rigel" or "Regal"? Because one is about space and the other is about royalty. So like. You can't have both.

Unless... he's a knight from spac-💥 HE'S FROM A CIRCUS!!!!!!

And yes, I'm bitter.

[huskyliker]

Guys I have a theory

[llamaisllama777]

EAPS THEORY: Solar Flare and F.C. will kill Rusty/Ruin's Monty

Allow me to explain why I think this...

After today's episode of EAPS, it's clear that Rusty is a point of contention for everyone and with the reveal that the reason Charlie turned Eclipse into a baby was cause Ruin, (I assumed) asked her to turn Eclipse into a baby to buy himself more time to find a way to save Rusty practically dooming everyone else just to save one guy.

Look, I get that Ruin wants to save Rusty, I want him to save him too, but if they can't, they HAVE to put him down. They have to get rid of the virus. Eclipse's plan will work, but Ruin won't let them use it cause Rusty will die.

They maybe have two months before the virus completely takes over, maybe one in Eclipse's case, but everyone's lives are at stake!

And Ruin...

Doesn't care! Or he cares but is too blinded by love to think of the consequences.

So, we have

-A virus that will drive them all insane in two months

-Ruin sabotaging Eclipse practically dooming everyone

-Ruin's cure not working

-And Eclipse is so close to crashing out it's scary.

So, what are they to do?

Simple...

Kill Rusty.

If they get rid of Rusty, they can use Eclipse's cure without hurting Rusty cause he'll already be dead 😃

Solar Flare has already taken on Rusty and maybe would have won if not for Ruin getting in his way.

F.C. is hunting down Rusty.

The two should team up to take down Rusty behind Ruin and Eclipse's back. The team is torn and cannibalizing themselves cause of Rusty's presence.

(Heck, that's probably what Afton wants)

And Solar Flare is the most logical person on the team. He sees Rusty as a variable, and he's a variable that needs to be removed.

Solar Flare knows how to fight.

F.C. probably does too.

Rusty is old and... rusty, he can't take them both.

Solar Flare and F.C. will kill Rusty to remove the variable so Eclipse can use his cure, and they'll all be saved.

Yes, it will hurt Ruin.

Yes, it's not a perfect solution.

But it's the only solution.

I can see Ruin yelling at Solar Flare saying, "Why?! Why did you do that?!"

And Solar Flare responding, "Your love for your Monty blinded you. You had Charlie turn Eclipse into a baby to buy time for your cure. We need one now. We couldn't have waited. Your love for your Monty would have doomed us."

Ruin, pushing past Solar Flare, "At least I know how to love! Unlike you... infernal machine."

Cue sadness.

No matter the outcome...

No one is gonna be happy here.

But hey, that's just a theory...

A EAPS THEORY!

Thanks for reading!

[alex-issad]

Ok so president earth totally has all the personality chips from the people who died and is going to use them against earth, right?

[tvstaticsolo]

What if Tyrant and Prez Earth team up

Or if Tyrant is Prez Earth's Sun?

[sundewartz]

The Backup Theory

I've been thinking about Day ever since the LAES dimension was blown up.

He was quite the intelligent man who had so much going on character wise that it always fascinated me. It's pretty unfortunate that he died the way he did, there was so much about him as a character and as a story point that felt so... abrupt for him to just die...

So!

I think he made a backup of himself :)

Let me explain my reasoning for this as this seems VERYYYY out of nowhere but I think it could work ><

The basic Ideas for why this theory exists

It was mentioned multiple times that Lunar and DJ's creator / mom ( Sol Sol ) had design blueprints of Day and Night and possibly created them as well considering all of the Celestial based ones ( except for DJ ) were made by the same person.

Eclipse was created by someone ( presumably JC or someone else ) and planted into Lunar and Earth most likely as a safety measure after what happened to Day and Night.

However Eclipse could meet up with Folly in her mind who was made entirely by Day from what we know.

If they could enter their head who's to say that Day wasn't aware of this and made himself and Night invincible to it as a added protection. Day would find the intrusion annoying but Night..? Eclipse would probably have been able to convince him to leave Day's side after long enough and Day would be able recognize that as a possibility.

However I think Day would take an interest on the code of Eclipse and knowing him could have a backup plan for himself and Night.

Making a sort of code that had a copy of both he and Night's personality chips which wouldn't be difficult at all for him considering his intelligence.

Now why do I think this could be true?

Well firstly Lunar's recent change in attitude / personality.

Ever since they came to the TSAMS dimension, Lunar has been quite a bit more meaner and even cruel to those around him since the change now while this can be excused with how traumatic the situation was that doesn't make the most sense for his character at least in my opinion.

He prefers to bottle everything up and never let anyone know how much he's hurting so why would he outwardly attack people?

Well say if Day had possibly planted his backup code within him as a way to also spy on the others but then it kept him ALIVE.....

It would make sense for his personality to switch to being more cruel like how Day is.

Secondly... Eclipse hasn't appeared to Lunar ( on screen or mentioned ) in a WHILE and for Earth it's been even longer.

Also the writers are evil and they would do it to torment everyone for the funny.

Probably.

Now this is just a fun theory but until it happens in canon or the writers make it basically impossible to happen....

It can also be a fun AU for me to play around with :)

Also if you would want to give reasons on why you may also think this could happen or why you think it couldn't, feel free to say so in the comments!!

Just be polite ><

[haidasalu]

TSAMS Tyrant Theory/Idea

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What if Sun becomes Tyrant?

Sun has watched his family die while essentially living through a sense of Survivor's guilt, or developing it (I fucking hope so, it just makes sense) while working with different versions of himself that he can see himself in. Dahlia and Carmine had been guiding him on how to be assertive and confident with combat and magic as well.

Sun is continously shown to be perfect with weapons such firearms, but also has experience with swords. With is a commonly depicted weapon for Tyrant who shares similarities/traits to a knight.

What are knights? Strong and loyal fighters who are meant to protect who they're assigned to. Like kings(or leaders like Moon), or princesses(like what Terra likes to call herself or his daughter), or maybe family.

But what is a Tyrant? Someone who is an opposite to a knight. Controlling, apathetic, and one can be a Tyrant by... overthrowing a King. Or being trusted the role and abusing the power.

What if Sun becomes confident enough to find his own purpose, where his worldview changes because of the people around him.

Sol, a Leader, may... trust Sun with a certain position.

Dahlia, a soilder or Knight, may teach Sun apathy. Empathy can be tool, but also a great weakness, afterall.

Carmine, expert with combat, may teach Sun more ways on how to use a weapon when Magic can't be enough. What better weapon thats close to a scythe then a sword that Sun has experience with?

Sun may see what Nexus saw in his family, Nexus haunts his dreams, after all. Maybe Sun gets fed up with the empty promises, constant verbal abuse, neglect, and carelessness from Moon, Solar, Monty, and Terra (Cosmos is the victim in these scenerios so he'd be there to ground the situation like he's always done. The goat) and reach a breaking point.

And if Cosmos sides with the family, one could call him a traitor. And dictators tend to punish those that act against them. Say, like how Nexus lashed out.

Basically, what if Tyrant is a warped version of Sun's entire being. More skilled and calculated while still showing empathy to those he believes deserves it, like maybe his daughter.

Sun BECOMING Tyrant is way more interesting, because it would actually mean something to his character. If Tyrant was just an Alternate Sun, it wouldn't carry the same impact. I mean, look what happened to Titan.

To add onto this, what if Dazzls was the princess in the castle? Tyrant as Sun still carries the same care he's always had for her, and so throughout the whole situation, he plays a game with her. To play Princesses and stay up in the castle while the Knight, Tyrant/Sun, protects her. All while operating whatever kind of scheme he's planning. Maybe brainwashing like President Earth, or just genocide like Ruin. (Except Ruin didn't have a choice, Sun would.)

Also to put a bow on the idea, Tyrant likes hotcakes because he makes them for his daughter. 🎀

(Art belongs to @/ayyy-imma-ninja or Meg)

What do y'all think?

[haidasalu]

TSAMS THEORY TIME!!!!

So. Killer Sun, right? Or Phillip. People are wondering who the mole is in The Moon Haven. People say Wheatly, or Rust, or both, or Mel even.

But, why them? how is it them? Because I'm taking my bets... on someone else. Someone we met but, don't know much on. Someone... that's relatively been in the background, but would have information about all the citizens of Moon Haven. I'm talking, SPARKLE MOON!!!!! The glittery British Moon voiced by Davis that seems to be the big boss for the entire operation. He's the one that would have information on Carmine and all the others, because he's the leader, right? He's the only one that has brought up how Wheatly is very useful, insisting that the smartest and detailed-centric Moon in the council, Rust, should have a very talkative little guy like Wheatly around him in his workspace at all times. And Rust is also associated with dimensional technology and science, he's the one that would also know most about Killer Sun's abilities because of that and because he's working directly with the guy that's been recently affected by Killer Sun. And if Wheatly does what he's told without any doubts about who he gets orders from, dare I say as the gossipy little scamp that he is, the head of the council would not have any obstacles about any kind of information. And Smoke, Mel, Ringmaster moon(i wanna call them Fable maybe), Our Moon and Carmine would all be distracted by Wheatly's natural charm to not focus on the guy collecting information and possibly handing it out to the likes of Killer Sun. Why do they want Killer Sun? so they don't die? So no other Moon gets killed? alright, sure. But who would've been the one to start this whole ordeal to begin with? Sparkle Moon. But they just want to capture him. right? Or, maybe only Sparkle Moon does. Why would Rusty, Mel, Fable, Smoke, or Our Moon want Killer Sun alive? for what purpose? Carme's a doormat and wouldn't want to wish death on anyone(or rather wouldn't want to get involved with homicide willingly), nor is he a council member and is not associated with the plan until way later. Our Moon has constant memory issues because of Killer Sun and, as far as we know now, is terrified and upset about the bastard. So why would Moon want him alive? Rust is more analytical about things, so he'd likely want to use Killer's power or- something, but he also is not opposed to just getting rid of him entirely. He would not care what happens to him, so why would he want Killer alive? Melancholy is in the same boat as Rusty, not caring about Killer Sun's status, though she isn't as involved as the others, so why would she want Killer Sun alive? Smoke is a magic user, as far as we know, he COULD try using magic for defenses. But, why would he care if Killer is alive? Fable, or Ringmaster moon, we don't know shit about them and I don't think they're even associated with the plan. As far as we know, they practically don't matter. Or maybe they're the mole. who knows! Wheatly isn't even apart of the plan, he just hears things and yaps a lot. As far as we know, he could be a likely suspect because he seems suspicious. But we should also remember that Wheatly doesn't know how to follow directions that well. He also typically doesn't keep his mouth shut. So he's more of a red herring. and no one else has the same knowledge on Killer Sun as the council would, which only leaves Sparkle Moon. Am I cookin' or what?