julia

meh.

[zhdfbghjbghjbghjdbjhgbhj-deacti]

no shade but betty and archie’s life together would be 3 minute missionary sex once a week and passive-aggressively calling each other “sweetie” while they argue about what curtains to get from ikea

[trashforprincipalhoney]

[raptorlily-deactivated20191105]

This has been said about a hundred times. Assuming that Riverdale is still following any kind of classic narrative structure, yes, b*rchie would be a step backwards in character development for Betty, but that would be the point and in line with story-telling. Betty’s development from season one thus far has been her breaking out of her shell and taking charge. As problematic as the ‘snake dance’ was in the way it was framed, it still was symbolic of Betty fully embracing the side of herself that isn’t the girl-next-door and doing what she wanted (“it’s not your decision to make,” she tells Jughead). Although Jughead’s intentions and motivations were understandable, Betty still got knocked down on her ass for taking agency of her person.  A regression back to safety, doing what is expected of her would make sense as we’re now approaching the part of the character arc that is representing an identity crisis.  If Riverdale can still be trusted to tell a story, it’s actually doing what it’s supposed to do.  We are going to see Jughead and Betty going back to playing the roles they believe they’re supposed to play. We’re going to see Jughead lone-wolfing it and resigning himself to the Serpents. We’re going to see Betty trying to get back control and cling to her girl-next-door image. Basically, they’re going to go full shadow of Alice and FP. We saw that in 2.08. We had FP trying to go straight, clean-up and get a job. We had Alice going Serpent. I predict in the next couple of episodes, we’re going to see both couples intersecting. That’s woven into the fabric of the narrative. Even when it hits a couple of bumps in the road, Bughead is not going anywhere.

The same is going to be said of Archie and Veronica. Veronica is likely going to have a crisis with her parents, and I predict Archie’s karaoke days will be over as he goes full jock and perhaps recommits to his father’s company. The b*rchie relationship (or tease, whatever) will represent this low point as everything goes the way they think things are supposed to be.. the way that will make everything easier for everyone. 

But then…there’s still the looming civil war, and the fiasco with the Blackhood, that are two forces hell bent on breaking down those small-town idealisms and showing us that the safety bubble that is Riverdale is a pipe dream. B*rchie is a casualty of that story; the theme that has been circling Riverdale since season one and it actually hasn’t diverted from it. However b*rchie will be explored, it will be the pulling back of the arrow before it springs forward into change. The fact that it’s set to happen because both relationships are in ruins right now should be telling of the fact that varchie and bughead are intended to walk it back. This is just a temporary recalibration of the core four. This their low point. This is where they’re going to make mistakes and figure out what it is they want out of their lives, and this is the kind of stuff that they can’t do within the confines of their relationships. I mean, if they were real people not beholden to laws of narrative, they might. But they’re characters, and unless we wanted bughead and varchie to be the safety nets that the b*rchie relationship is being set up to be (and safety nets are always negative in storytelling – it means that this character or situation must change), the fact that they are getting this kind of conflict is a positive thing.

Look, Riverdale is very clumsy in many respects and it’s definitely not consistent with all characters, but there is still some semblance of structure.  I can’t argue that b*rchie is character assassination or that the writers don’t know what they’re doing because it does make sense when you look at character as an arc; if the story isn’t over, growth is going to have to happen and growth isn’t always a straight line. It’s a zig zag. Characters, just like real people, always loop back to beginning and retreat to safety when their pursuit of new goals blows up in their faces until they remember why they left safety behind in the first place. Open up any book, examine any movie, look at nearly every fictional dynamic character or relationship that ever existed and once you break it down, you’ll see that its true. 

As painful as it will be to watch b*rchie if you’re a varchie or bughead shipper, take comfort in the fact that it’s actually a stepping stone for the relationships you ARE supporting. That they are the substantive goal here. 

In the meantime, there’s fanfiction and ranting on tumblr. 

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[missbennet]

^all of this

[purple-spring]

Brilliant, on point analysis.

[classicalbughead]

[bughead4ever823-deactivated2017]

Makes sense to me.  You’re amazing.

[i-know-you-can]

Sprousehart/Bughead parallel

[heartsprouse]

so let me get this straight

archie can’t reciprocate betty’s feelings and a twisted result of that guilt is kissing her new friend in a game of seven minutes in heaven. this only worsens his friendship with betty, causing him to seak solice in an adult woman who everyone can see is manipulating him. when that inevitably falls apart and grundy skips town, archie lathes onto val. when val breaks up with him, he inacts a last ditch effort to win her back. when that fails, he defaults back to veronica in the same night. this turns into an actual relationship which he falls into full speed ahead, telling her he loves her prematurely. and because veronica doesn’t reciprocate that love he starts thinking he can get what he’s missing from betty?

as much as he annoys me i’m starting to get a grasp on archie’s cycle of revolving door romance. he’s afraid to be alone— probably a result of his parents divorce. one relationship shows signs of turbulence and he has to find another.

at least he’s consistent. love him or hate him he’s a well written character.

[heartsprouse]

side note:

like i think the general consensus about archie is that he’s non committal but i would argue the opposite. he wants a steady relationship so bad but was warped by his parents divorce into thinking the slightest sign of trouble means the whole relationship is trashed.

[heartsprouse]

*wants to start using tumblr more because twitter is deadass so scary and it’s more peaceful here*

[bugheadasfuck]

“The boy looked out the window at the girl next door as if for the very first time”

me @ betty’s window:

[heartsprouse]

so let me get this straight

archie can’t reciprocate betty’s feelings and a twisted result of that guilt is kissing her new friend in a game of seven minutes in heaven. this only worsens his friendship with betty, causing him to seak solice in an adult woman who everyone can see is manipulating him. when that inevitably falls apart and grundy skips town, archie lathes onto val. when val breaks up with him, he inacts a last ditch effort to win her back. when that fails, he defaults back to veronica in the same night. this turns into an actual relationship which he falls into full speed ahead, telling her he loves her prematurely. and because veronica doesn’t reciprocate that love he starts thinking he can get what he’s missing from betty?

as much as he annoys me i’m starting to get a grasp on archie’s cycle of revolving door romance. he’s afraid to be alone— probably a result of his parents divorce. one relationship shows signs of turbulence and he has to find another.

at least he’s consistent. love him or hate him he’s a well written character.

[closeyoureyesandbelieve]

Season Two Riverdale: It’s Not Easy Breaking Your Heart, Starring Betty Cooper and Jughead Jones. 

Sigh. So, I’ve had a chance to digest the episode, and honestly, I liked the episode way more than probably most everyone else. Hopefully my opinions don’t get me shunned, but oh well, I’m always brutally honest. Lol. 

I’m going to start with one of the main topics at hand. 

Betty Cooper: 

While I understand people’s upset and anger and all other feelings they’ve got going on, what happened this episode in no way “wrecked” Betty’s character development. I don’t know where that’s coming from, imo. It in no way ruined her character, either. 

Here’s why. 

People keep saying, Betty and/or Jughead are not operating like their season one iterations, and actually, almost every debacle we’ve seen transpire, imo, is precisely because they’re acting like their truest season one selves. The problem is, we need them to grow significantly more.

I don’t even think what Betty did joining the Serpents was terribly OOC for her. Not even a little. I’m happy to be in the minority opinion, but has anyone else paid attention to the way that Betty loves? The way that Betty protects? 

Because, if they have, she routinely self-sacrifices (as does Jughead), it’s one of their many parallel qualities if they truly love you, but I digress. 

Not only does Betty routinely self-sacrifice, because this is not the first time she’s done so.. if she loves you, there’s no depth she won’t go to, including going a touch off the rails (or darn near all the way off the rails), and making less than stellar decisions, in the name of that love. That’s a true blue Betty Cooper character trait. It’s not brand new. This was just more of that.

Her Dark!Betty moment of season one was triggered or at the very least, tied up in a deep love and revenge wanted stemming from Betty’s feelings for her sister. 

This moment here? Was tied up in her love for Jughead, who I’d argue she  loves on par with Polly, if not more. Two of the people Betty holds closest. 

 There’s a reason the show leveraged Polly against Betty when the Black Hood started his shenanigans. He threatened Polly, because he knew that would help him control Betty. And then, he threatened Jughead because he knew… 

There are precisely two people who have triggered certain reactions and behaviors out of Betty, including getting Betty to a place where she makes “darker” decisions, two people who she would do anything for.

Polly is almost a similar indicator, the same way FP is to Jughead. 

I mean, Betty threw her mom under the bus when the Black Hood got too close for comfort, but Polly and Jug? Nope. NOPE. Not gonna happen, she’ll do anything when it comes to them. They are her soft spots. I’m frankly shocked that people are shocked to find this out. 

So, it’s of no shock to me, to see the lengths Betty went in this episode, in the name of all that’s swirling around her and Jughead. 

Furthermore, why I urge people to step back from the “OOC/wrecked characterization ledge,” just generally speaking, poor decisions happen. She’s 16. I expect plenty of poor decisions from any 16 year old on this show, but in this case where Betty’s concerned.. Just to catch us all up… 

If any characters on this show deserve some compassion and understanding about why they might be making seemingly poor or wtf decisions? I’ve got two candidates for you, Betty Cooper and Jughead Jones. 

They have been put through the wringer and then some.

Not only is Betty 16, she’s spent the last episodes being tortured by a psychopath, isolated, on the receiving end of barbs from her friends when she pushed them away to save them (she’s not worth it), she’s had the town’s problems placed on her shoulders by her own mother, she had to throw that same mother under the bus and out her Serpent past to save people, one of her dearest friends Kevin was cold shouldering her to start the season, she feels responsible for getting a man killed when she was trying to save his life (the teacher in the jail cell), she didn’t like that she gave up Nick’s name when it got down to the wire and she was running to save him, she is so traumatized by the stunts the Black Hood is pulling that she can’t go back to the house where the Black Hood made her look in the mirror in his sadistic torturing of her, she got got busted breaking and entering and has now made it such that she can’t go to the Sheriff for anything related to the case, she’s keeping the fact that one of her best friend’s dad is having an affair from him, her boyfriend hasn’t exactly been around as much as he normally would have been as a support system because he’s got his own mess to deal with on the opposite side of the town, and then on top of that, she and her boyfriend broke up in the midst of all of this, too. Oh, and by the way, the Black Hood is still after her. 

There’s other things, as well, but like… IS THAT NOT ENOUGH? All of you would be your best decision-making versions if that was going down with you, huh? GOOD TO KNOW. We’ll call you in a crisis, okay? How Betty is even standing at this point, should really be the question. 

We are really out here wondering how it’s possible Betty might not be making the most fully thought out and best of decisions right now? REALLY? 

Furthermore…We really think her character is OOC right now? The girl who has said repeatedly that she hates the “perfect” girl image and has wanted to break free from that box forever, to boot? The girl who was lied to and judged from her mom, only to find out her mom was a Serpent. There are so many embedded ways this makes sense. There are so many parallels to why Betty made this decision, and so many parallels to who she makes these types of decisions for, and all else. 

I’m the only one who sees it? REALLY? Nobody sees all the ways this could link up, combined with her investment in Jug, and the extreme pressures she’s under, nobody sees how this happened? Oh, I do. A lot. Again, I’m fine being alone in this. 

I don’t see this as OOC at all. This is Classic!Betty. Give and give and give and give and bend and bend and bend trying to make everything alright and sometimes it’s misguided, terribly so, in some cases, but yeah. I don’t think her character has been sacrificed here, at all. 

And ftr, none of that is me condoning anything. Just saying, I got it. It ruins nothing for me. It changes nothing for me. Or actually, no, it does change something for me. It was one more affirmation that where Jughead is concerned, Betty’s all in. Endgame. It’s him. 

And ftr, part two: Should an underage girl have been subjected to that and/or are there dangers tied to that? Well, the answer is obvious. And I’m not excusing anything, but putting things in context.. This is the same show that has date rape issues, girls being trophies the athletes were keeping a scoring system on, the kids getting hopped up on Jingle Jangle, they’ve got secondary characters as drug dealers (Reggie), kids getting shot mid grope sessions, underage students sleeping with teachers, Jug was used as a drug mule, V and Co. snorting cocaine for fun, underage drinking, Kevin out in the woods cruising for men, underage clubbing, tons of underage kids with pipe bombs and committing crimes because they’re about that gang life, 16 year olds toting guns, 16 year olds running gauntlets and getting beat up just until the point they don’t die, and like… We could carry on. 

This show has long had adult themes for the underage kids and Betty’s not unique to that, is my only point. I try very hard not to have insane double standards, or be totally hypocritical (and when I am, I just own it), but here, this isn’t the first time or nearly the first time the show has used a mature theme and inserted a teenager. It won’t be the last and that’s sort of how I process this. 

And last, in what might be an even more minority opinion, I like where this episode left Betty Cooper. It didn’t get glorified. Betty made that decision and she… suffered for it. It was devastatingly heartbreaking in so many ways. 

And, for so many reasons, It’s where the show needed to leave her to help her and to help her and Jughead as a couple and as individuals. I firmly believe that.

[heartsprouse]

totally agree with this now but last night my stream was glitching so i completely missed the part when toni tells her stripping is the female initiation to the serpents. so i was under the impression that betty was just stripping because she felt like it. now that, would be ooc.

[bugheadswan]

I actually really liked the way Jug responded to Betty’s stripping. He responded the way I would want the love of my life to respond to me if I did something so out of character just to hold onto them. The way he saw it, Betty was slipping further and further into the darkness he’s tried so hard to keep her shielded from (hence the lack of communication this season) and, while I’m still not happy about ANOTHER breakup, the more I think about it, I actually do get it. Betty broke up with Jug to protect his life, and Jug broke up with Betty because he believed he was doing the same thing. This not only should shut up those who have been saying “Betty deserves better” or “Bughead is one-sided” or “Jughead doesn’t care about Betty as much as she cares about him”, but it also proves once and for all how much these kids love each other. That’s right, they are CHILDREN.

Im not even going to address the dancing scene because, even though I found myself saying “YASSS QUEEN LILI”, I think we can all agree for an underage Betty, it was gross and unnecessary.

Anyway, what I took away from this episode was Jughead and Betty, even though they’re apart, are more in love than ever, and that’s enough to get me through to at least the next episode.

[bughead4ever823-deactivated2017]

^^^^^

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[heytherejones]

no fucking offense (literally full offense) but I️ want love like theirs. what the fuck is this shit??? he thinks she’s so beautiful and he’s always taking pictures of her and she’s so fucking in love she’s writing poems left and right and she introduced him to her family and they spend every waking moment together and they’re always looking at each other like it’s all they see and I’m literally over here boutta lose my fuckin shit. can you imagine these two when they’re alone? fucking laughing and teasing each other and snapping pictures we don’t get to see and cuddling and telling each other everything and what? What?the?fuck?

[wildflowe-s-blog]

this whole post im

[bughead]

you were made to be kissed, often and well.

[riverdalelovee-deactivated20250]

Is Cheryl older than all the other characters? Since she is the leader of the cheerleaders and everything. Polly is also older than Betty and as long as she is not dating a younger guy, Jason and Cheryl should also be older than Betty. But Cheryl is still in class with B&V and Archie etc. Do you know the answer? Or maybe you have at least some thoughts about it. I don’t know who to ask haha 😅

Yes, it was stated on the show that Jason was 17 when he died and since they are twins, that would mean Cheryl is 17 as well. We know that Jughead is 16 so I’m assuming Betty, Archie and Veronica are also 15/16. As for Cheryl being in their classes, I have no clue why she is. It doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense unless she failed a grade or started school late. There are a lot of odd things in Riverdale, like how it goes from winter to summer within a couple weeks…I’ve learned to stop questioning these things and just buckle up for the ride😆.

[bughead-fic-request]

Mads has said Cheryl is the same age as the core four and the writers fucked up and they’ve all agreed to ignore it. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BahZG-hnf1O/?taken-by=fanexpohq

[heartsprouse]

well canonily i would say it’s totally possible for her to be in a higher grade but still be in their classes. the only actual class we’ve seen them all in is science, right? when i was a sophomore i took physics with my senior sister just because i felt like doing it before biology. and even if she shares more classes with them than science, most classes are interchangeable with grades.

it will become a canon plot hole eventually when she doesn’t graduate before them but right now it totally makes sense to me. maybe my high school just had really loose schedule rules? but i was in classes with different grades all the time, higher and lower. and it wasn’t even a rareity. like it was more common to have a class 25% of every grade than a class all one.

[lusterrdust-deactivated20221115]

good tweets

[heartsprouse]

wow i need to get on tumblr more often i’m appreciated here.

[colesprous-deactivated20180324]

what songs would be good for a bughead reunion scene

i think never let me go by florence and the machine would be a good one but literally any intense song would work

[heartsprouse]

Hold On - Chord Overstreet

anyone who disagrees is wrong.

(https://youtu.be/VZI4k4pRGMM?t=1m43s)

[veronicadvalle]

barchies are out here replying to ras tweets like suburban moms complaining to the school board because their child didn’t get an A

SUBURBAN MOMS! 

I’m YELLING!! That’s amazing. 

[underrmyumbrellaella]

Nonnie has Twitter I see lol 😂

[heartsprouse]

she’s coming for my brand

[heartsprouse]

leave some lili love in the comment section of this youtube video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp6S5wZh2a4. the amount of people who hate her for simply stating her opinion on ships is insane.