Yep... Leon's training was really rough.
Special thanks to @theycallmedarling for proofreading and for fixing my awful English and for @loveiscosmicsin for the support and suggestions. Was inspired by @cryran88 's fic.
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Yep... Leon's training was really rough.
Special thanks to @theycallmedarling for proofreading and for fixing my awful English and for @loveiscosmicsin for the support and suggestions. Was inspired by @cryran88 's fic.
I just know he has Chris STRESSED
OKAY SO LOOK
I feel like so, so often, people forget about or just gloss over the fact that Chris was an Air Force Pilot. In the Air Force. So let's juat take a step back and consider what that means.
In order to be a fixed wing pilot in the Air Force ypu have to be a commissioned officer. This likely means need to have a college degree. Also the Air Force only takes smart people (maybe an overly simple deduction but it's generally true. They are far more selective than the other branches.) So Chris can definitely fucking read.
Unlike enlisted personnel, commissioned officers have the ability to resign their commissions for a variety of reasons, so this tracks with Chris leaving the military with a somewhat in tact reputation that would allow him to move on and join an elite group like S.T.A.R.S.
So, Chris is educated, and politically savvy enough to navigate the process of leaving the Air Force of his own volition.
PLUS he established an organization that is validated and backed by the U.N. which would also require a certain level of both intelligence and political know-how.
I think a) the games (at least the originals) are shit at continuity and actual character development and,
B) Chris hides behind his physique and tough guy exterior because he wants people to underestimate him. He doesn't care if people see him as all brawn no brains because it means they don't expect much from him and he can more easily outsmart them that way.
I'm so lucky to have a cat who wants nothing more than to spend the day rotting on the couch with me.
(My speaker has become her favorite headrest, but only when I'm not using it. If its making noise she isn't interested.)
In a shocking and truly heartbreaking turn of events BOTH of my cats have abandoned me to rot alone and I don't know if I will ever recover.
I'm so lucky to have a cat who wants nothing more than to spend the day rotting on the couch with me.
(My speaker has become her favorite headrest, but only when I'm not using it. If its making noise she isn't interested.)
I'm so lucky to have a cat who wants nothing more than to spend the day rotting on the couch with me.
(My speaker has become her favorite headrest, but only when I'm not using it. If its making noise she isn't interested.)
Dying for a Chreon Pirate AU 😫
I may or may not have been thinking about this all day and even come up with a whole ass plot. I'm just so intimidated by the thought of actually writing it.
Dying for a Chreon Pirate AU 😫
Must one "stop" the dark lord from returning? Is it not enough to give him truly incredible mommy issues?
Any excuse to hold each other.
I’m just saying that Chreon is a really inoffensive ship to canonize in comparison to the one we all know they’re actually gonna go with. Chreon makes a lot of sense as the first queer ship Capcom can make canon. CAPCOM PLEASE JUST ONE GAY CHARACTER IS ALL I WANT PLEASE
Chris's behavior at the beginning of Village seems extreme and over the top, but when viewed in the context of the larger storyline, it makes much more sense.
It really starts with what happened in RE7, and how Eveline/the mold completely overtook the Baker family and changed them into monsters.
Chris has been spending the time since then going after Miranda, who is ultimately responsible for what happened in 7. He knows thay Mia is no longer Mia, and has every reason to suspect that Ethan is just as compromised as the Baker family. He viewed Ethan as a potential enemy as well, and was taking precautions accordingly.
Now, with all that being said, its clear that Chris has also been pushed to his limit mentally and there's a lot of anger and trauma there that impacts how cold and harsh he is with Ethan.
But, his actions at the beginning of Village and the seeming ruthlessness are not entirely unwarranted, in my opinion.
I don't quite agree with you. In my opinion, the writers just wanted to create an unexpected twist, forgetting about the existence of logic.
If he thought Ethan was compromised, what was stopping him from inviting Ethan and Rosa to his place, trussing him up and locking him in a lab for research, while his squad arrived at the house and dealt with Miranda in Mia's guise. Miranda clearly wasn't monitoring Ethan 24/7 (we weren't told about it), and Ethan (if I'm not mistaken) was still going to training sessions with Chris, so Redfield could have taken advantage of that moment. Ethan and "Mia" had been fighting all along, so Chris could have tested the waters and hinted that Ethan and Rosa could stay with him since Mia was unstable and aggressive. And then Chris could have brought Ethan to the base.
OR AT LEAST HE COULDN'T HAVE PUT ETAN, ROSE, AND MIRANDA IN THE SAME CAR. Seriously, he could have thrown Ethan in the trunk and left Rosa in the passenger seat while Miranda was being taken away. Chris knows that when mold dies, it turns to stone, and Mia's body showed no signs of this at all. And as if Chris doesn't know that creatures like Miranda don't die so easily.
And I could have forgiven Chris for not telling Ethan about Miranda, because he was afraid the PTSD-ridden dad might fight Miranda to save Mia, or try to escape with Rosa, only to attract Miranda's attention and thereby endanger himself and Rosa. But why didn't he tell him about it later?
I kind of think all of those things can be explained with information in game as well. Not sure how convincing the arguments are, but it's fun to talk about at least. (Village was my first RE game, so I foolishly made it my fandom hill to die on, lol.) There are two distinct reasons Chris cites in game for keeping Ethan out of the loop, the first is that he might have been infected/compromised by Miranda and the second is that he doesn't trust Ethan to let him handle the situation. Arguably both fears end up being correct and they more or less inform every decision he makes regarding Ethan. 1. Why doesn't Chris just lure Ethan and Rose away from the house and then take out Miranda? If you go through the notes, you can piece together that Miranda only posed as Mia for a few days at most and that Chris probably acted as soon as he found out the switch had been made. (He literally mentions there wasn't more time to Umber Eyes later on) At this point, Chris doesn't know whether Ethan has been infected or why Miranda didn't just kill him straightaway and take Rose with her. Now Chris could have waited until the next day and tried to create a pretext for Ethan and Rose to leave the house. However, that runs the risk of Miranda becoming suspicious and losing the element of surprise - she knows who Chris is and what he does for a living - so why would Chris suddenly ask Ethan to bring his infant daughter to combat training or for No 1 Wife Guy Ethan Winters to leave his wife just because they had an argument? (The flashback scene is the real Mia who is worried about Ethan and she isn't what I would call unstable or aggressive. Ethan literally fought BOW to be reunited with her.) The other thing that doesn't often get brought up is that Ethan and Miranda-Mia were presumable going to go to bed together that night. Now Chris can't know for sure how far Miranda was going to go with her subterfuge but I don't think it's all that unreasonable for him to want to get Ethan out of that situation as soon as possible? Even just sharing a bed with someone who isn't who you think they are is incredibly violating and Ethan didn't deserve to go through that. Waiting until the next day would also give Miranda a good 12 hours to do god knows what to Ethan and Rose. Chris is making a judgment call to act straightaway and minimize Ethan and Rose's exposure to Miranda.
2. Why did Chris put them in the same car? Chris is working with a skeleton crew in Village. He's recently gone rogue from the BSAA and he simply doesn't have the resources to transport them separately while also monitoring the Village. (You can see some of his weapons are literally held together by tape in game.) Chris wasn't going to leave a potential BOW behind in the Winter's nice suburban neighborhood, so he chose not to divide his troops even further and took the calculated risk of transporting them together. At this point he also assumes that Miranda is likely neutralized, so the crew he sent along was there mostly to take out Ethan if necessary. 3. Why did Chris assume Miranda was dead? Because Miranda can mimic corpses and necrotic tissue as the HWS pointed out. Most BOW, especially the more sophisticated ones, aren't actually "dead" in a biological sense. They metabolize like other living organisms and usually mutate when close to death to save themselves, Miranda looked "dead" in way other BOW looked dead when they are actually dead. (For reference Lucas didn't crystalize either when he died after mutating and they have limited knowledge on how the mold operates to begin with.) It's also not the first time a protagonist in RE has reasonable assumed a BOW is dead just for it to pop up again. Jill gets infected by Nemesis in RE3R after assuming she killed it despite having seen it revive a number of times, Leon and Helena wrongly assume they killed Simmons a bunch of times, Ada gets captured by Saddler after thinking she won, Leon shoots the Girl in RE9 in the head and she comes back to almost kill Grace, Barry and Claire are literally raising Alex/Natalia right now because they assume they killed her - the point is that BOW are weird and you can never know for sure if they're dead. It's not like Chris just left Miranda's corpse behind, he was still treating it like a potential hazard. 4. Why doesn't Chris tell Ethan about Miranda later on? I mean, he very explicitly does in Heisenberg's factory. He explains everything to Ethan and tries to convince him that Miranda will kill him if he tries to fight her and that his team will handle everything. He even gives him the little tank to fight Heisenberg. Ethan just completely disregards everything Chris says to him. When Chris tries to call him after the Heisenberg fight, Ethan tells him that he's going to fight Miranda and when Chris tells him to wait for him, he hangs up the phone. The only other time he meets Ethan is in the reservoir where they get interrupted my Miranda's least favorite child. At that point Chris knows that Miranda let Ethan live again and that Miranda can shapeshift so you can read his initial hostility towards Ethan as him trying to parse whether he's actually dealing with the real Ethan. You can see Chris' tone shift once he realizes they're about to be attacked, but he really doesn't have time to explain anything during that encounter.
Overall I think Chris acted logically given the information he had. The problem is that even when you act logically, there are scenarios where you have to go off probabilities and even when you bet on the best odds, the Gods of Statistics are major jerks and other actors - like fathers trying to save their daughters - have free and at times irrational will you can't account for.
Yeah, not to beat a dead horse but I think hindsight is always 20/20 of course, and even while Chris's behavior is jarring at the beginning of 8, it makes a lot more sense by the end of the game. And again I am not at all saying he wasn't also suffering from a lot of emotional trauma and PTSD and also like you said dealing with the betrayal of the BSAA and suddenly being more isolated... what he did may not have been the very best option but I don't think it was out of character or uncalled for. And really the main point I wanted to make was that the context of both 7 AND 8 add to understanding why he does what he does more than just the beginning of 8.
He's just a tired old man who doesn't want to see any more friends die and if that means murdering someone's 'wife' in front of him so the evil BOW doesn't take him to bed and do who knows what else (if she hasn't already) then... you gotta do what you gotta do.
Back on my bullshit like seriously... even in the official figures... those are honest-to-god yaoi proportions--
Listen if we're talking chris x leon? Chris differently bottoms. Not many are saying this, but it is true.
I have so many mixed emotions on this but also... you're not wrong...