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Okay, I've never watched Voltron, so maybe it is worse than Spop. But those points in the meme. .

"Treating your POC characters well" How?

First of all, the race representation in Spop is just on a surface level and deeply confusing. Etheria doesn't represent our world, the worldbuilding is terrible and the POC characters are either one dimentional, stereotypes or the narrative doesn't let them shine.

"LGBT+ representation" you mean Lgbt+ ?

I'm sorry, but the big cast of Spop is formed by lesbians in questionable relationships and bisexuals all in straight couples. The only healthy sapphic and gay couples are on the background and the only returning gay character is apparently not gay and dates one of his bullies.

There's two transgender characters but one of them is confirmed to be trans outside the show, not even by the creator, and the other appears in only one episode. The nonbinary character is a shapeshifter who uses their ability to turn into a little girl and works as a spy for the bad guys for money.

"No queerbait" yeah unfortunately.

You know if I could chose between Adora staying single and c//a, I'd chose the first one with my eyes closed. We could have had Glimmadora instead of the abusive incestuos ship.

I wouldn't be so bothered by the lazy representation if fans didn't treat this show as the best diverse media there exists.

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Posts about Perfuma Mixed Race. Bow Black written by carilynn27

Since I was asked the article that I talked about the other day, here it is!

Click at your own risk 😑

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Vivziepop when she creates POC characters:

Vivziepop when she creates white characters:

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Yes. Nifty is Japanese.

It's interesting how in the Pilot Nifty had yellow skin and after she was confirmed to be asian, they changed her skin to white.

I wOnDeR iF. . .

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Okay, I know we're living a delicate time when it comes to representation and therefore people are getting desperate, but how does someone watch even a few scenes of that movie and think Raya x Naamari deserves to be a canon?

First of all, that "childhood friends" part doesn't exist. Naamari and Raya met one time when Raya's dad invited the other tribes to his kingdom and the two girls spent like an afternoon together before Naamari betrayed Raya to steal the dragon gem. They did have an interesting dynamic but how do we know that Naamari wasn't pretending to be friendly to get Raya to trust her with the location of the gem (which is what happened in the movie).

The flirting and teasing comes out of nowhere because those two haven't spent enough time together to form that kind of bond. I know teasing the enemy is a common trope for villains, but it doesn't make sense for Raya since Naamari 's betrayal caused her to lose her home, her people and HER DAD! Raya should hate Naamari even before she betrayed her for the second time when she shot Sisu.

Raya x Naamari is one of those ships that if you think about it for more than two minutes, you realize how bad it is. Just like Naamari's motivations and her "redemption arc" .

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Hi! I want to talk a little about a topic that I don't feel is addressed much when discussing the problems with the She-Ra series: the portrayal of bisexuality. As a concerned person, I don't really like how the show portrays the subject, even though it's supposed to be diverse, inclusive, and pro-LGBT+. (Note: While I'm mainly talking about bisexuality here, my point can also be made about pansexuality, polysexuality, etc.).

First of all, the characters who are most often labeled as bisexual in the series are Glimmer and Bow. The problem is that the way it's shown seems artificial to me, because I feel like it was set up just for the Season 5 finale, where everyone has to be in a relationship (except Frosta, and I guess no one on Etheria is aromantic) for a "super super good ending." And even though we saw throughout the rest of the series that Glimmer showed attraction to Adora, Nate still preferred to show his incestuous fanfic. Regarding Bow, it's (way) too subtle: if I believe the wiki, he had a crush on Sea Hawk in the episode "The Sea Gate," but it seemed to me that he was more impressed by him than anything else in the episode. Then Nate confirmed during a livestream that Bow wasn't straight.

And this is often the case for characters in the series classified as bisexual: moments and reactions that are far too open to interpretation, and only confirmations from the writers. Or in the series, it's simply quickly stated that a given character is attracted to or has dated someone of the same gender in the past. I also notice that the characters confirmed as bisexual, both inside and outside the series, are, by the end of the series, all in heterosexual relationships. So when Nate or the writers confirm that a given character is indeed bisexual, it feels a lot like fanservice or queerbaiting.

And I think that's quite bad because on the one hand it contributes to the invisibility of bisexuality (especially with Catradora who sucks up all the attention), on the other hand it can propagate the idea that "bisexual people are not real LGBT+ people", a biphobic idea unfortunately quite present in the LGBT+ community.

I agree with you. The bi representation is Spop is disappointing.

Beside the Glimmadora interactions, the other bi characters either get some blink-and-you-miss-it moments where they blush around a person of the same gender (like Mermista with Adora) or we get nothing in the show and their sexuality is confirmed online (like Sea Hawk with his ex boyfriend or Entrapta). This is different from a good written bi character like Luz Noceda, who through the series shows interest for male and female individuals, either in obvious ways like blushing for both Eric and Emira or in more subdle ways, like her saying that she has a crush on education and referring to it as a "she".

I didn't want to be too harsh on the fact that all bi characters are in a straight relationship because that doesn't erase their bisexuality, however that does create a big contrast with the other main couples of the show.

All the lesbian characters are in wlw relationships, meanwhile all the bi characters are in straight couples and there's nothing in between. So from the perspective of a person who doesn't watch old interviews and doesn't follow Nate on any social, the representation comes all from lesbian characters because the bisexual ones are straight to them. Don't get me started on the lack of gay and aro/ace representation, that's even more disappointing.

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Tbf there's one mlm relationship. Bow's dad, who literally appear in only two episodes 😒

Initially Kyle was presumed gay because he told Scorpia he has a crush on Rogelio, and the other guy required since he kept a picture of Kyle in his locker. But then Nate confirmed Kyle and Rogelio are in a poly relationship with Lonnie, because God forbid a woman in this show isn't in a relationship or aro!

I'd say with the trans representation it's a little better because we have Double Trouble who is canonically non-binary. The Starlight brother is trans and you'd only know that if you've watched the og She-ra and learned it used to be the Starlight SISTERS. Perfuma was confirmed to trans offscreen not even by Nate himself so that's a shame.

I get that censorship is a b*tch however it's still possible to find clever ways to confirm a character identity without them looking at the camera and say "I'm gay 🤓" . Shows are a visual media and show don't tell is one of the most important rules.

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I'll come back to the LGBT+ representation in SPOP. You see, I wondered why this representation is so… "awkward," when we were promised an LGBT+-coded series, derived from a franchise known for being gay and queer-coded, and with the added bonus of a showrunner and writers who are themselves gay, lesbian, bi, trans, queer, etc. So I find it very strange that they were so timid in their representation, even problematic (hello Double Trouble!), especially compared to other animated series aimed at children released at the same time. And I can only see two possible answers:

1- Fear of censorship. Perhaps Nate and his team wanted to avoid scaring producers or broadcasters, and not wanting their series to be censored or canceled, they deliberately reduced the number of LGBT+ characters. For example, during production, Perfuma was supposed to feature a trans girl, but fearing the producers' reaction, they backed off and made just a cis girl. We can also imagine that after three seasons of restricting themselves, they were then much freer (albeit belatedly) to include LGBT+ characters. Think, for example, of the Netossa-Spinnerella couple, who were almost invisible during the first three seasons, only to become, belatedly, much more visible in the final two seasons. However, I think this fear is unfounded since I think producers and broadcasters are aware of the expectations and LGBT+ representation of the series and the franchise and probably accepted it, or even saw it as good publicity.

2- Laziness. So this is my personal theory, but I have the impression that Nate and his team deliberately did the minimum in terms of quality LGBT+ representation. Nate was focused solely on his incestuous fanfic, and he and his team must have figured there was no need to do a lot of work on LGBT+ representation because, with the lack of representation in children's media and an enthusiastic fanbase, even the most problematic queerbaiting would be acceptable and could generate buzz. Take, for example, the character of Double Trouble, who has already received several criticisms for theirs portrayal of non-binary people (depicted as monstrous, just a plot device, possible anti-Semitic imagery, etc.), but these same criticisms were drowned out by a flood of praise from LGBT+ audiences, including non-binary and cis-straight audiences, because non-binary characters are still rare in children's productions. And I suppose Nate and his team also figured that in case audiences were lacking representation, they could always add extra information as fanservice.

So whether it's the 1st solution, the 2nd or both solutions at the same time, it leads a series that wants to be LGBT+ to have only one gay couple (rarely present), many more lesbian couples (including one very problematic), characters whose bisexuality is well hidden, a trans character whose transidentity is not possible to guess without going through a wiki search, an ultra-problematic non-binary character, and zero ace/aro characters in the cast !

I want to make the jump and speculate the answer is both of your theories together, because one is the consequence of the other.

Let me explain. I'm sure the crew-ra knew if they made the first seasons of the show too gay Netflix would have tried to stop them and maybe cut short the amount of episodes they had. Because of this, they just didn't try as much as they could have. They placed Spinnerella and Netossa in the background, gave one episode where Bow's dads were important and used all the runtime and animation budget on c//a.

It sucks that they didn't have full control of the show, but at the same time that's not an excuse for the poor representation. Remember when Huntara was introduced and Adora immediately had sparkling eyes for her? Would have killed the writers to make Glimme react in a similar way? Or what if we actually got to meet Sea Hawk's ex boyfriend (with a different name, please) instead of him being a voiceless background character?

Honestly the problem isn't just the characters not being allowed to be gay on screen. Some of them were poorly written in general. Sea Hawk makes me cry whenever I think about how cool he was in the og show; Spinnerella and Netossa were just there, when they could have been more developed together or separately. And the princesses. Oh God the PRINCESSES-! 🤬

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In case you're confused,

L stands for "Let's put all the cute wlw ships in the background so that they can't overshadow our abusive and incestuous main couple!"

G stands for "Go f*ck yourself if you want to see two men in love for more than one episode"

B stans for "Bait bisexual representation rules"

T stands for "Try to guess what religious group this non-binary character offends"

Q stands for . . . Idk. But I've already mentioned all the representation in Spop so 🤷‍♀️

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Toxic queer people like vivziepop:why people think being gay is result of trauma and not a sexuality?

Also them: turn an obvious straight woman lesbian out of nowhere because of cheating and make her end up with toxic person she hates out of many women in show.

You have no idea how much I hate "my boyfriend/husband was bad so I become lesbian" troupes we don't "become" ace/gay/bi...etc because of trauma goddammit! This is a stereotypes created by bigots,why that part of lgbtq community are spreading their bigotry and call the other part of lgbtq community "homophobes" when they call out their bullshit????

Not mention the amount of bi erasure and people defend it by "but but a lot of women who are married to men don't know they're lesbians!" Like it's true but making maybarryxmartha cannon is not how you do it, it's 100% forced and vivziepop just did it as gotcha to critics

Anyway no matter what people say,maybarryxmartha is never canon in my eyes and I pretend maybarry is asexual bi-romantic who's married to Karen client from sinsmas (idk if she has name yet but I'll name her Rosemary) and they both opened business in hell and they kill/punish cheaters no matters who they slept with since IMP has favouritism towards who's allowed to cheat and who's not "but they're happy gay couple i can't kill them even though they cheated 🥺" my ass

[Insert that "community I can excuse racism" meme]

IMP: I can excuse mass murderering for money but I draw the at killing gay cheaters cause it's not right

MayberryxRosemary is the best fanon ship of the show fr!

Everyone is rightfuly talking about how Mayberry being a lesbian came out of no where, but can we talk about how Martha being bisexual also didn't have any foreshadowing whatsoever?

In both occasions where she cheated on her husband in Murder Family it was with a man (btw a bisexual character who loves to cheat? Very progressive!)

Some people realize to be gay when they're older, it's true and it would be nice to have a character going through this important discovery, but that's not what happened to Mayberry! We literally saw her in two episodes, in one she was "straight" and in the next she's a lesbian dating another woman. That's not character development! Where's the scene of her questioning her sexuality, the initial denial, the contemplation, the regret for all the time spent with the wrong person, the acceptance and happiness of having found her true self?

But then again, they weren't trying to write a coming out story. Vivziepop only wanted to prove her critics wrong and Morgana wanted more representation for herself. The fact they picked Marta and Mayberry to be the face of sapphic representation for Helluva Boss makes me think Loona, Barbie Wire, Sally May and Verosika won't get a girlfriend.

Speaking of Loona, I think she should have been the one to have a coming out plot since she has never showed genuine attraction to a girl (no LoonaxBee in this house).

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Opinions on straight ally characters from an ally perspective

So far the characters that were confirmed to be straight allies are Nifty, Millie and Vortex (still more rep than aro, trans males and non-binary smh)

-I love Vortex and I' happy that he's an ally, even if I don't like his ship with Beelzebub because she's in charge of the Pounds and responsable for the abuse young Hellounds go through. Plus Vortex feels more like an accessory to Bee than anything else.

-Nifty is a mix of the yandere + "fake innocent girl who loves bad boys" trope. She only talks about bad boys and showed interest in Sir Pentious (before he went good), Lucifer and freaking Valentino. Feels a little sexist ngl.

I'm also pretty confident that she'll show interest in Baxter since some fans like the ship and Viv needs to give the shippers everything they want 😒

-Millie being straight was. . .A surprise? I always thought she was bisexual like Moxxie and reading other opinions on this made me realize I wasn't the only one.

It's nice that she tried to stab Chaz because he abbandoned Moxxie and let him go to prison alone. But I suspect Millie not being part of the LGBTQ+ community is another reason why Vivziepop cares so little about her.

"Straight + woman" is a very dangerous cobination in a Hellaverse.

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What makes the latina-Catra headcanon worse imo is there isn't another character who is latino(coded) and can somehow balance out the fact she's such a bad stereotype.

Most of the cast is either asian(coded) Glimmer, Micah and Castaspella are Japanese, Mermista is Desi, Scorpia is asian and Sea Hawk is half asian.

Or black(coded) Bow and his dads, Netossa, Lonnie, Hordak and some fans think Perfuma might be mixed.

And then there's Adora and Kyle, who are the only recurring white characters.

Why do I have the feeling that Nate said Catra is latina only because he realized there wasn't any South American/Latino character in his show?

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ChrissiesWay her YouTube channel really make me open my mind about how representation work. One thing that i remember from her YouTube channel that she's critical about how black woman dsbw (dark skin black woman) is depicted in fictional media even on real life too. She not only critiquing she's also have advice how to deal with certain people for black woman. I remember in one her video she suggest black woman to actually supporting image representation that actually give them a good look and because the responbility for their representation is their own not other races of group. Beside that she is crystal clear that other group beside white people would always priotize themselve before others, black woman on the other hand fighting for everyone to have their equal right so they always expected to be the activist. They unfortunately receiving racism from others group even got thrown under the bus. She is right while black woman have the right to be upset how they are being represented, they also have the responbilities for that representation. Any cooperation don't actually care about representation they care about the profit, entertainment is business. She doesn't against fighting for equality for others she just advice black woman to always priotize themselve. From her i learn a lot so if there's any creator or celebrity who are very controversial problematic have certain allegation i won't be suprised.

As much as i upset at vivziepop i realized she play the game to certain extent. This world we live in is dog eat dog world where people are gonna priotizing themselve before others, no matter how many people angry at her she would never lose her platform. Sure her reputation won't be good but the money & platform is still flowing for her. That's why i stop supporting certain creator like her

I've watched a video of Chrissie where she talks about black female characters that are given the role of the activists, who fight for everyone's rights at the risk of their safety but don't get the same support from others.

The problem with Vivziepop -one of the many tbf- is that she's not capable of writing ANY type of character.

Black women aren't the only exeption. Vivziepop can't even write things that she's a part of! She can't write hispanic or latino characters unless she makes them cuss in spanish; she can't write asexuals unless she portrays them as selfish a-holes; she can't write women even if she wants to believe otherwise.

Like, how does a person fail to write ALL these groups?

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Come to think of it… The fact that Jax is a trans woman AND a misogynist…

Doesn't that align with how TERFs imagine trans women? That is, as "men" who hate "real women" and pose a threat to them?

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: anyone in this world is capable of saying or doing something misogynist. Cis men, trans men, cis women, trans women, enby people, white people, people of color, straight men and women, gay men and women, religious people, atheists etc.

So Jax being a trans woman who is also a misogynist is sad, but still possible.

Transphobes paint trans women as violent or predators to villanize them, so they can excuse the violence they inflict on the trans community and also act like they're the ones protecting cis women while they're harming them for different reasons (or even the same reasons because sometimes transphobia can be used against cis women too)

Jax is not just painted like that. She is not villanized. She is 100% an abuser who targets mostly women, harms them emotionally and physically, and we know that she has creepy sexual thoughts about the people close to her. In a world where transphobes already constantly accuse trans women of being just like her, I can totally understand those who hate to be associated with Jax.

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Why do I see so many people comparing Lilith to Stanford Pines? 🤨

Just because both of them are nerdy and their siblings were the trouble makers, it doesn't mean their stories are the same.

Lilith cursed her sister because she was afraid Eda would get into the Emperor's coven before her. It was an act of insecurity and envy. Ford was never jealous of his brother.

If anything, Lilith is more similar to Stanley because they both did something that changed their siblings life forever (Stanley broke Ford's machine at the science fair). And Eda was the child who recived more attention from their parents, not because she was a genius, but because of the curse.

The curse can be toh's equivalent of the portal where Ford desappeared in. Lilith did try to fix what she did, kinda like Stanley, but even this comparison doesn't sit right with me because while Stanley wasn't the perfect brother, he didn't push Ford into the portal intentionally and he didn't brag about it after that.

To me Lilith is what some fans think Mabel is.

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I'm going to say it. . .

None of the main six (Twilight excluded) had a reason valid enough to get the second ticket for the Grand Galopping Gala.

-Raimbow Dash wanted to meet the Wonder Bolts, but she met them when she saved them and Rarity during that flying competition THAT SHE WON. She has already caught the team's eye, so spending one evening with them wouldn't have made much of a difference;

-Applejack wanted to sell food to earn more money. Her family owns the only apple orchard in Ponyville, that means she should already make enough money. And why should people buy her products when there's a free buffet at the party with likely more choice?;

-Fluttershy wanted to meet the animals that live in the castle's garden. O-kay? How difficult would it be to find those creatures in another place in another occasion? Or she could just ask Twilight to take her to visit the castle. She's Celestia's pupil after all;

-Rarity just wanted to realize a childish fantasy where a random prince falls in love with her in a few hours and asks her to merry him. That's absurd even for a pony as extra as her. It would have made more sense if her desire to attend the gala was about selling dresses to the royals;

-Pinkie Pie just wanted to party. That's it.

I'm glad all their plans turned out to be a disaster because they acted so entitled in that episode. It's incredible how neither one of them ever assumed that the second ticket was for Spike. After all he and Twilight have spent most of their lives at the castle, so it would have made perfect sense if Princess Celestia invited him to the gala.

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I thought everyone already knew that because of the hints the movie gave us: the lillyponds on their bed, how Lillian talked about their first kiss, the frog lady at the tavern recognizing Harold. . .

It's also the biggest reason as to why Harold didn't want Fiona to stay with Shrek.

Harold used to be a talking frog who thought he wasn't good enough for his love, so he made a deal with the Fairy Godmother to get his happily ever after. But seeing his daughter with an ogre made him remember those times. Therefore Harold was hostile towards Shrek even before the Fairy Godmother told him to get rid of her son's rival.

To be clear, I'm not excusing Harold's actions. Even if he thought he was doing the right thing, he almost sold Fiona to that Fairy monster and Charming. At least he redeemed himself by not giving Fiona the love potion, shielding Shrek with his own body and apologizing with both of them (and Lillian too).

Damn, now I want to watch Shrek 2 again.

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"Hal was right for calling out Roxanne for never giving him a chance to know him better"

1. Roxanne doesn't owe Hal her time outside of their workplace;

2. Even if Roxanne tried to befriend him, it wouldn't have been enough for Hal anyway. Because his only goal was to be her boyfriend. If he only wanted friendship, he would have appreciated her effort to talk things out with him while he was destroying Metrocity;

3. Hal was a bad person, even before he got super powers, so it's for the best that Roxanne didn't stick around him for too long.

As audience, we got to see more of Hal's personality when Roxanne isn't around. First we saw that he's a manipulative liar. He lied about the bouncing castle and the wedding photographer he hired just to get Roxanne into his appartament. He lied about fighting ninjas to rescue Roxanne while she was in Megamind's lair to look more brave, when in reality he passed out.

Hal is a coward who doesn't care about other people's lives. He told Megamind that his neighbor had more nice things when he thought Megamind and Minion were in his appartament to rob him, which would have endangered the old woman if it was real. He also casually dropped a whole flower stand off a building.

He used his super vision to look into Roxanne's house and after she rejected him, Hal followed her to the restaurant where she and Megamind disguised as Bernard were having a date. That's stalker behavior.

These things are more than enough reasons for Roxanne to not want to spend more time with Hal.

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If a character was introduced as a bigger and meaner bully than Jax, I bet he would immediately try to befriend them -even out of fear of being their next victim- and joined them in making everyone's elses life a living nightmare just because they'd both find it funny.

And if this new character was mean to Jax as well, it would be up to the others to stand up to the bigger bully and defend the rabbit.

Pomni: "Come on, guys! Jax might be a a-hole sometimes. But at least he's better than X"

Gangle: "Yeah. Back off, X! Only Jax can bully us!"

Zooble: "It's okay, Jax. Even if you initially sided with X and only stopped mistreating us when they gave you a taste of your own medicine, we forgive you, because you've experienced in a day what you put us through for years. That means you've learned your lesson"

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